What's up with their cult of personality? They make serviceable shooters with nice graphics. Why do people treat them as the second coming of Christ?
More like people are 50/50. I liked TLOU but I still don't give a shit about Uncharted.
because PS4 exclusives
other studios sure pretty silly to be doing multiplats, they could be the 3rd coming of christ and shilled everywhere without having to hire anyone
>>338208602
>Why do people treat them as the second coming of Christ?
They don't?
People on /v/ fucking hate their guts.
>>338208602
They work closely with reviewers and are known for giving them massive benefits, more so than most other developers
So they get those high ratings which translates to gullible idiots buying their games.
>>338209087
>They work closely with reviewers and are known for giving them massive benefits, more so than most other developers
Citation needed
>>338208907
>/v/
That's like 100 people and no one gives a shit about /v/just as well because /v/ has terrible opinions
>>338208821
I'm the opposite. Didn't like TLOU.
>>338209245
>just as well because /v/ has terrible opinions
Or maybe naughty dog is a shit company that only sonyggers will defend, because their console still has no games
>>338208602
They shoulda kept making crash and jak games, all this edgy 3rd person shooter bullshit seems like it tries too hard to bring in the cod babies.
Also highlights how poorly suited console hardware is for shooters.
>>338208907
NeoGAF loves them and any criticism is considered haram.
There's a fucking petition to get a negative review off metacritic.
>>338209448
PS4 has a couple games now though. I don't know why they defend Naughty Dog so heavily.
>>338209448
/v/ DOES have terrible opinions though
>>338210204
>NeoGAF loves them and any criticism is considered haram.
From what i've seen not even NeoGAF liked UC4 very much.
This game only recieved good reviews because Sony is in full damage control mode (see the Ghostbusters movie).
You guys are fags tlou is an amazing game go play cod you sperg lords whay does xbone have?
> gears dies arguably at the third installment
> halo 10
I cant even think of other exclusives ithey are so underwhelming
> if you mention the real faggot.
Also 3rd person shooter trying to attract cod fans. Real brain damage in this thread
>>338210293
>PS4 has a couple games now though. I don't know why they defend Naughty Dog so heavily.
The PS4 will be remembered as the console that only had one game (Bloodborne).
The PS4K might actually have more games.
>>338210407
> if you mention the wii your a real faggot
Fucking mobile posting
>>338210376
/v/ isn't a hivemind. Stop projecting. Then again, I can see you defending Naughty Dog here, so maybe you're the one with the terrible opinions?
Why can't people just enjoy the videogames they like and ignore what others think?
>>338208602
They're highly significant on the tech and art side of the gaming industry. As far as that goes, Naughty Dog is up there with the best of the best. Highly prestigious, you have to be at the top of your field to work there. There are very few companies like that, of course they're well respected.
>>338210781
Because humans are social creatures. People do not want to be the only one with an opinion, and want others who think alike. Through anonymity, barriers such as race or sex are abstracted, but opinions can still be grouped together based on similar conclusions. Pretty simple senpai.
>>338210407
>>338210535
Who exactly are you aiming that at? You do realise most of this board are PC gamers, right?
>>338209245
More like one guy who can type really really fast. Amiriteoramirite
I've honestly never been more confused about the disparity between me and the rest of the industry than when I played the Uncharted games.
I think I can understand why games like CoD and Skyrim can take off even if they're not my cup of tea, but I just can't wrap my head around what people see in Uncharted that I don't. Is it really entirely just the set pieces? Do people really find that sort of thing so incredibly interesting?
Besides Jak 2 and 3, most of their games are at least ok. This translates to them being the best developers ever to some people for whatever reason.
LOOK IN MY EYES
>>338210510
I'm holding hope for Nioh and Persona 5.
>>338211176
No question pc gaming is superior its just not the same level as consoles like comparing ps4 to 3ds. Im speaking from the poor fag console war side. Ps4 has no games meme but other consoles do
>>338210376
As a whole, /v/ has better opinions than any other online gaming community. Now thats not saying much, but a lot of people have knee jerk reactions when they see /v/ shitting on a game they like.
they make great games and have built up such a reputation that everyone who plays their games has ridiculously high standards. The only other dev that is really comparable in this regard is Rockstar
They are considered an old school developer and even if you think their games are mediocre, the effort put serious effort into them and they've been getting increasingly better over time, they started out with a 70 metascore and have moved to 90+ as their talents have grown and Sony has given them better tech to work with.
They are respected for the effort they put into their games and they sort of ride on being popular in popculture like Nintendo is regarded, even though Nintendo legitimately don't deserve the notoriety they have any more because absolutely zero cutting edge gameplay or visuals or game design has been put in a Nintendo game during last decade.
>>338211403
Well it's definitely not the gameplay. It's a mediocre third-person shooter with abysmal puzzles, platforming, and stealth segments.
>>338211403
i am in the opposite camp
I don't understand how anyone who enjoys third person shooters can think Uncharted is NOT fun (unless they have some personal agenda against the series)
>>338212103
Nice meme. Naughty Dog haven't made a moderately good game since Uncharted 2.
>>338212320
Nice bait
>>338212598
>bait
Sure, kid.
>>338212196
It's not terrible but there's nothing special about it at all and it gets stale very quickly. I was pretty tired of the game's formula by partway through the first and expected something a bit more refreshing from the rest but it never really progressed much.
Seems like you could get far more variety and general fun from most other shooters.
>>338211353
>this entire board could just be you and one other guy samefagging
>>338212183
uh huh. You haven't played it.
the stealth + combat is the best part of the game. Gameplay is great all around
I am pro Sony and I don't see the hype. Sure I liked uncharted 1-2 and tlou but they're so...safe and plain I guess. I prefer fantasy and sick gameplay in my games which is why I prefer Japanese games, much more excited for FFXV.
>>338212103
>They are respected for the effort they put into their games and they sort of ride on being popular in popculture
I can understand this perfectly. The Uncharted series is extremely polished with countless hours animating huge setpieces, a simple, but charming story, great soundtrack, etc.
But what I don't get is how game reviewers genuinely believe it's a masterpiece and put these games among the best ever made despite having no depth in the formulaic gameplay and an unoriginal - if well done - story.
It's like putting The Avengers alongside Citizen Kane. It's not a bad movie and the people who made it are undeniably talented, but get fucking real.
>>338210376
Post your favorite games.
>>338209087
Or they just make good games that a lot of people like? Stay edgy
>>338213039
>no depth in the formulaic gameplay and an unoriginal - if well done - story.
I bet you are one of those faggots who love CS:GO and ASSFAGGOTS
>get fucking real.
I agree, get real.
>>338208602
Marketers and soniggers. Same with Bethesda. Bethesda is a shit company but people spamed todd memes so much that some dipshits actually thought FO4 would be good. They also troed to do this with eidos. Expect to see a lot more of that when HR comes out.
>>338213039
So what is the Citizen kane of games?
>>338213186
except Fallout 4 wasn't nearly as well received as Uncharted 4
>>338212847
>using a gif of the grapple hook
>literally only allowed to use it freely 5 times
swinging was fun as shit but it's a shame that only makes up 4% of the game and the rest is boring as fuck. Gunplay is still absolute garbage too and bulletsponge enemy AI don't get me started
>>338213159
>You don't like MY thing? You must like OTHER thing that sucks!
Not even that guy but I've never seen anyone with an actual point to make use this kind of thinking.
>>338213212
Not fucking Uncharted, that's for sure. If you want a real answer to your snarky question you thought was unanswerable, hows Shadow of the Colossus? That's right dipshit back to your hole
>>338212847
there are decade old games that do combat and stealth better than uc4
>>338213390
>4% of a 16 hour game
>you spend 38 minutes on grappling hooks
that doesn't sound right
this isn't a spider man game
>>338213212
Citizen kane is most famous for its cinematography so from that point of view Mario 64 is probably the 'Citizen kane of video games' because it was the first game to really nail the camera in 3d space.
>>338213159
>I bet you are one of those faggots who love CS:GO and ASSFAGGOTS
You'd be wrong.
>>338213212
Ultima IV or System Shock.
>>338213159
Ill be honest. Dota 2, MGR, UT4 and EVE are the only things I have left that Im capable of enjoying at the moment. Ashes of singularity will be good after its done and SS4 if it ever releases. But for now Dota is more or less all I have.
Not many devs similar types of games and those who do (TR reboot) deviate enough from the formula since ND is already the master at it
They're great games and have their niche, my only complaint with them is that they have little replay value.
>>338213585
>16 hour game
8 hours at best.
>>338213585
idk what you mean by this
>>338213593
Ocarina might be more apt, Z-Targeting is just as important as all the camera stuff mario64 did, along with its massive open world (for the time) and good story
>>338213536
>there are decade old games that do combat and stealth better than uc4
I bet you think Deus Ex is one of those games
I bet you also think that Thief had good stealth and combat.
They make games casuals can actually beat.
>>338213598
>Ultima IV or System Shock.
>Two games with worse combat and a more generic story than Uncharted
wew lad
>>338213738
>along with its massive open world (for consoles)
Fixed that for ya.
>>338213517
Uncharted was never meant to be some deep "Citizen Kane of gaming" thing.You're thinking of The Last of Us.Uncharted is just an adventure serial with a very polished cinematic presentation. It just so happens to have exciting and fun gameplay as well, in addition to gorgeous graphics, physics, animations, and amazing audio
>>338208602
Cause they have made some amazing series.
From Crash Bandicoot, Jak and Daxter, Uncharted and TLOU.
Thats 4 series that all scored very high and are good games.
Me personally i enjoyed Uncharted and TLOU. But i take years breaks in between them. Uncharted games play too familiar to eachover and gets dull.
I played Uncharted 3 in 2014. Uncharted 2 in 2010. I can wait a few more years before playing uncharted 4 so it doesnt feel like devaju too much
>>338213604
>tfw enjoy games on PC, ps3, ps4, wiiu, psp, ds, 3ds, vita on a daily basis
What's wrong my man?
>>338208602
Why do you care?
Let people have their own opinions
> its a PC cucks hate on console devs episode
Uncharted is The Mummy of games
>>338213738
Fair enough, you could really go either way. On one hand I think Mario 64 just introduced so much stuff that its a good contender but on the other hand Ocarina had Z-targeting and was a lot more of an emotional experience because Mario 64 was honestly somewhat of a tech demo.
>>338212919
>sick gameplay
You must be atleast 18 years of age to post on this site.
>>338213926
They're two games that completely changed video game storytelling and took the medium to new heights and had more interactive worlds than had ever been seen before. Ultima IV's combat definitely doesn't hold up but System Shock's is still better than Uncharted.
>>338211403
Did you play the games? Or watch youtu e viedos.
Games never look amazing from youtube viedos. Uncharted plays like a India a Jones movie. Funny Banter during shootouts, good cutscenes made in Engine making it feel consisent.
And simply fun enemies to fight. The heavys, supernatural elements its all really good, character interaction.
The gameplay is okay. But combined with everything else becomes a really rich game.
Thats my opinion
>>338208602
They keeping pumping out GOTY after GOTY, and PCucks can't play them.
>>338213604
>still playing league of ancients 2 after valve had the audacity to add ability power
>>338213812
Stealth in uc4 is basically npc patrolling in a 10 sec loop and killing behind them when they are looking away. It feels very tacked on as the mechanic is barebones.
>inb4 muh crushing difficulty
difficulty setting only changes detection times.
>>338214236
Cut the bro a break.
Probably a DmC fan.
>>338214236
Says the guy who is pro naughty dog
>>338211708
WHAT DO YOU SEE?
>>338214283
>System Shock's is still better than Uncharted.
System Shock is an archaic game that only has the story going for it.
DOOM is the comparison you are looking for.
>>338214158
only with regards to plot
Tech-wise it is the Avatar of games. Gameplay-wise it is the Indiana Jones of games
>>338212847
It's like playing as a movie stuntman, none of that webm you posted is emergent, interesting gameplay in the slightest sense. All the bullets tracing past Drake are inconsequential set pieces.
If you enjoy looking at scenery, why not go on a hike? Maybe take up a hobby like photography? Maybe study films? But why play something where neither the video game or movie half are unique or interesting?
>>338214379
> The gameplay is okay. But combined with everything else becomes a really rich game.
this is generally how ND work. they don't go insane in one area and compromise others, they focus on an all round great game
>>338214550
I'm not, though.
I was too lazy to open the catalog and was browsing the front page when I saw his strangely worded post.
>>338214854
>But why play something where neither the video game or movie half are unique or interesting?
>Post a MGS gif
You people have no self awareness whatsoever, do you?
I have a friend who's obsessed with Naughty Dog. He loved U4 so much that he told me he's only going to play Naughty Dog games until October (when Gears 4 comes out), and that he wants to move to California to work at ND.
I don't get the crazy fans of this developer either, and I like U2 and TLoU
>>338214854
> If you enjoy looking at scenery, why not go on a hike?
r u serious
pc cucks are trying pretty hard today
Uncharted and TLoU are very accessible games even by normie standards which is reason #1 why /v/ hates them. #2 they are exclusive so like anything else it's bound to stir shit up here. #3 they've been going for that cinematic approach to vidya that /v/ hates and says is killing the industry. #4 on top of everything else their games receive favorable reception and we all know what that translates to on /v/
>>338214054
I cant get into anything that doesnt have enough real time crunch. Even darksouls feela to shallow. I'm thinking of emulating Shinobi after Im done with my retarded low upgrades run of MGR on revengance. Nothing on the current gen consoles has anything that does it except bayo 2 and I fucking hate the wii u.
Worse still I cant enjoy being in the lounge room to play console games. I fucking hate even looking at tvs and multi monitors have poisoned things even more for me.
whats more Ive become addicted to the salt from angry dota players. One of my friends exploded over a fed slark the other night and I nearly passed out laughing. Console games just cant provide that kind of lulz.
>>338214656
No. While I love DOOM, it is far more archaic and less innovative than System Shock.
Naughty dog in a nutshell.
>>338215030
The difference is that MGS (1 through 3) has interesting gameplay and an interesting plot. I haven't seen a single thread about Uncharted other than "it's overrated" or "lol pcucks are mad1!". The game has nothing interesting to discuss other than the hype surrounding it.
>>338213986
4/10
>>338215112
/thread
there will never be actual discussion on new ND games because of this..
They create great stories and have better world building and writing than most other studios that don't make RPGs.
but no /v/ pretends it's just deluded fanboys that like them
>>338215372
>MGS (1 through 3) has interesting gameplay and an interesting plot.
>>338213212
Shenmue 1 and 2 are the real Citizen Kane of video games. Shenmue is arguably the first true modern video game.
Cinematic presentation for cutscenes, tons of collectibles, dynamic weather system and realistic passage of time, fully voiced dialogue, all NPCs are unique and have first and last names, schedules/a life, full orchestral soundtrack, and a literal epic story as the storyline was planned as a huge franchise.
All of this in 1999 and 2001. Probably a whole lot more stuff I'm missing. Worth mentioning Shenmue 2 is an incredible sequel.
>>338214379
Yes I played them. I just can't put as much weight into background elements as everyone else seems capable of, because without all of those the series is pretty uninteresting. Even with them, I don't think the stories or characters are especially good.
>>338215030
Say what you will about the series but if you genuinely think the MGS series doesn't have a unique plot and fairly unique gameplay then you're kind of a dumbass.
>>338215112
As much bullshit as /v/ likes to toss around these days "normies" makes sense and is actually the real explanation. I mean there really are so called game enthusiasts who are only aware of highly marketed western titles and not much else. They ingest games like normal person would movies in america, they just see a trailer on TV or some shit and decide they'll get it or ads in gamestop for the newest blockbuster. Of course western stuff always has the most marketing too.
>>338215372
>The difference is that MGS (1 through 3) has interesting gameplay and an interesting plot.
Wow.
Now that's fucking delusional.
I haven't played every game they've ever made, but every game I have played of them is pure fucking quality
>>338208602
Naughty Dog are pretty flawless developers.
Crash Bandicoot + Jak and Daxter series are iconic, great games. Crash Team Racing is one of my all time favourites in fact.
I haven't played TLOU or the Uncharted series, but have only heard good things about them.
>>338215442
>>338215562
>I've never played mgs
>>338215562
but Uncharted does? Please tell me how Nathan Drake's quips shocked you and changed your life. Man, when Drake jumps off cliff #99928 and escapes from avalanche #3384 it really broke my heart, that's like, right up there with Psycho Mantis.
>>338215715
I have and the story is poorly written and the gameplay isn't anything special
>>338214428
They did that because Int stat was inferior to agi and str. Even then on high int heroes like invoker its less than you get from an aether lens.
>>338215715
You haven't played it either, considering MGS is composed of more cutscenes than any other game out there (including Uncharted you double nigger).
>>338215490
they were revolutionary for their time but they are very dated to play in 2016
for a interesting subject, uncharted just can't release milked games as if it was mario. they show signs of an careful planning for an satisfying experience
>>338215894
Well yeah he asked for the Citizen Kane of video games. Citizen Kane was revolutionary for its time and changed everything but it's obviously dated now.
>>338215776
>quips
DCuck, please
>>338215698
>Crash Bandicoot + Jak and Daxter series are iconic
>>338215809
Wrong
>>338215861
>interesting cutscenes with a very unique plot unlike anything
>gameplay that has tons of things to see and do
>gameplay leaves tons of room for creativity and fucking around
Vs
>generic action movie
And by movie I don't mean cutscnes, I mean it is literally like I'm watching the average b tier american movie starring Vin diesel and the rock.
>>338215824
>Wants int to be able to be relevant
>Still lets agi get FREE armor
Agi is the only type of carry that matters and will continue to be.
>gameplay that isn't revolutionary but blends multiple genres well
>by far some of the most top-tier animation work for every gen they've been a part of
>fun characters, fun stories to follow (at least, starting from Jak)
>games are meant to be replayable, chock full of easter eggs
I think one of the biggest misconceptions on /v/ is that if you like 7th-8th gen ND that you want every game to be a cinematic experience, I like what ND does but I seldom like games that copy their style (Tomb Raider reboot and the Star Wars 1313 footage, for example).
That being said, I'm really worried about where they'll go from here with Neil Cuckmann's role becoming more and more prominent with each release. Straley is fine, but there are a lot of bad signs in Left Behind and Uncharted 4 tied directly to Neil.
>>338216181
>>interesting cutscenes with a very unique plot unlike anything
>>338216474
I don't think I've ever wanted to replay an uncharted game. By the last half I was trying my hardest to just get done
>>338212847
actual framerate pictured
nice "game" guys
>>338215189
>>338216060
How are they not?
Crash Bandicoot is up there with Spyro and Banjo Kazooie.
Jak and Daxter, Rachet and Clank and Sly Raccoon were the best adventure platformers of that generation.
>>338216474
I like uncharted but they don't feel very replayable at all. I've never felt the urge to replay one.
I finished the first Uncharted yesterday. Holy fuck that gameplay wasshit. The shooting was some of the worst I've experienced on a console in the last 5 years and there were tons of retarded camera angles during the incredibly simple climbing parts.
Is the second one an improvement?
>>338216036
Feminists chasing Whedon off the internet is the only decent thing theyve ever done.
>>338216060
>>338216576
>hasn't played them
>just started coming here around mgsv release
>>338215861
>"this movie-game sucks!"
>"b-but /v/ likes MGS and that has cutscenes!"
It also pioneered the 3D stealth genre and the boss battles are some of the most intense, memorable and classic moments in video games. People shit on MGS and completely forget the gameplay exists and is tightly interwoven with the cutscenes. There are tons of secrets, easter eggs, and detail in every MGS.
I only played a bit of Jak and Daxter as a kid, played TLoU when it came out, and only recently started playing the Uncharted games, and I was never really a big fan of any of them.
It's been forever since I played Jak, but I remember liking the character interactions, but not really enjoying the gameplay.
I've only played the first two Uncharted games, but they have fun characters, I just wish the actual gameplay wasn't so bland. I also really didn't enjoy playing both 1&2 near the end. It's like any of the fun they had put into the gameplay had just stopped and bunch of stupid bullshit was pushed in to replace it.
And The Last of Us was just kind of alright all around. The gameplay's slightly more interesting than Uncharted at least.
Honestly, I just wish Naughty Dog would start making games that are more interesting to play than watch/listen to, because they're pretty good at writing fun character interactions, they just can't seem to make gameplay to back it up.
>>338216735
>any of those
>relevant
>>338216846
nope been here since the beginning and the story was always retarded
>>338216804
If your problem was with the gameplay, then no, not really. All the second really manages to do is have more variety in the set pieces and a handful of small tweaks to make things slightly smoother. It's still basically the same at the core, despite what most reviewers say.
They are exclusively Sony and Sonyggers are hands down the most vocal fanbase.
>>338216957
>3D stealth genre
no you're thinking of thief and splinter cell
>the boss battles are some of the most intense, memorable and classic moments in video games
the characters are memorable but the fights are dull and shallow
>>338208602
>They make serviceable shooters with nice graphics
Pretty much this is the top of the bar in today's AAA game market, so yea they're awesome by todays standards
U4 is a game with a shit ton of polish but there really isn't much substance behind that polish. It's a good game to be sure but Bloodborne felt a hell of a lot more impressive to me, and that's a game I still replay more than year later, which I don't think is going to be the case for U4.
>>338216804
I'm amazed the Uncharted series is as popular as it is now since it started with that shitty game. Shitty AI, bullet sponge enemies, awful gunplay. But yes, at Uncharted 2 it gets better and it included a fun multiplayer.
>>338217000
But you weren't implying they were retarded, you were implying they're unoriginal. Those are completely different things. You can call them dumb as shit, it certainly reached that point, but if you think it's unoriginal then I don't even know what to say to that kind of stupid.
>>338216804
The second's gameplay is much better, but again, isn't really ambitious.
It's functional without any of the amaterish mistakes that plague UC1's level design.
(Seriously, Naughty Dog, cinematic-physics platformers have been around forever and it's not like Sands of Time or the first Tomb Raider reboot trilogy were fucking obscure titles. There is no fucking excuse for some of the more obtuse level structures in UC1).
>>338217264
Thief is groundbreaking and one of the GOAT, but it was released in the same 6 month window as MGS. I agree, Thief deserves more credit.
Splinter Cell was released for Xbox and is another meh, mediocre Ubisoft title albeit of a higher caliber than the rehashes they put out today.
>>338217754
splinter cell beats mgs in every aspect of a stealth game
Is Naughtly Dog the KyoAni of video games?
>>338217541
>Seriously, Naughty Dog, cinematic-physics platformers have been around forever and it's not like Sands of Time or the first Tomb Raider reboot trilogy were fucking obscure titles
Nigger are you high? None of those games are like Uncharted. Uncharted 2 basically invented the cinematic-movie-game thing, and is possibly one of the most ambitious linear games ever made.
The only other games like it are the Tomb Raider reboots
>>338217994
god yes
>>338215175
Jesus breh, I think you need to go outside for a bit and deffinently cut back on using your pc breh
>>338217996
>Uncharted 2 basically invented the cinematic-movie-game thing
what is Dragon's Lair
what is a bunch of cheap 3DO games
what is Shenmue
what is God of War
what is Heavenly Sword and a million other first party PS3 exclusives
>>338217754
>Thief is groundbreaking and one of the GOAT, but it was released in the same 6 month window as MGS
True, but MGS still mostly played in 2D. Thief arguably did a lot more for bringing the genre into 3 dimensions and revolutionizing how light and sound impacted gameplay.
They made Crash Bandicoot. Why did they switch to cinematic edgelord shit anyway?
>>338218741
because nobody else was doing it
they were trying to be innovative
>>338218741
All Naughty Dog has ever done since the beginning is just roll with whatever was popular at the time. When animal mascots were big, they made Crash. When duo collectathons were big, they made Jak & Daxter. When GTA clones got big, they made Jak edgy and had him steal cars.
Now they're just making what the big thing is right now, which happens to be movie games.
>>338218919
CoD
>>338219667
not third-person, not comparable
ND games are unique for being able to make their gameplay segments look so cinematic that people watching think that they are looking at a cutscene
>>338212103
You had a very well written argument, and then you just started shit posting on Nintendo. So close
>>338213716
Nice bait
>>338216804
2nd game is 500 times better.
>>338218923
There's nothing wrong with that though. Especially when the games they make become a staple for the genre. If they were cheap cash ins on what's popular that would be bad though
>>338219991
>not third-person, not comparable
The difference between third and first person isn't all that great.
>>338214428
>is basically npc patrolling in a 10 sec loop and killing behind them when they are looking away.
so like EVERY Stealth game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRDx9IaZ5zE
Is he right?
>>338214854
>But why play something where neither the video game or movie half are unique or interesting?
>posts metal gear
ok dude. lol
>>338221971
you have a lot more tools or mechanics to play around in other stealth games. If you think uc4's stealth is good, how did fc3 feel for you? Amazing?
>>338222217
>stealth games
then I guess its good that uncharted isn't strictly a stealth game then.
and I didn't have much interest in farcry 3. if its anything like 2 then I don't see how its supposed to be a fantastic stealth game.
SUCH GAMEPLAY
>>338222386
if you think stealth in uc4 is good, then fc3's stealth must be amazing.
>>338221352
first person looks like an obvious videogame no matter what you do; no matter how many cinematic scenes you put in the game.
third person games can seamlessly go in and out of cutscenes just by moving the camera a little. A lot of the time the gameplay looks like it is a cutscene even though you have just as much control as you would in a cinematic FPS like Bioshock or COD (actually moreso, since you have so many more options for movement in games like Uncharted)
>>338222585
cool. I'll check out farcry 3 then.
>>338211890
I don't agree. I think the only plus side is there's no way to completely make someone's post irrelevant in this site like there is on some other sites. I can say ds2 is my favorite souls game here and you can call me a faggor, and we can argue about it all day. Even if 20 other people mimic what you say, doesn't change that I can still voice that I love ds2.
That's not doable on other sites now that the Internet as a whole is a giant hug box, and you can't disagree with the consensus without being treated like a leper.
There's some really awful fucking opinions on this site though, people will disregard a game for the most autistic thing and other retards will mimic that and parrot it into every thread they make.
>>338222531
Damn, that's pretty.
>>338222585
I do really like Far Cry 3's approach to stealth, and I've always loved Uncharted 2's approach.
Playing through U4, I was surprised at just how similar the combat encounters were to when you're taking over bases in Far Cry 3. The stealth in both games was fun as hellIMO
>>338208602
Game journalists arent very smart people. So they give not very good games 10's, then the plebs act the way the journalists did
>>338222531
why there isn't bubbles?
>>338223309
Uncharted 2 had stealth?
Uncharted and TLOU have really bland gameplay you can find in many other games, with decent for video games stories.
It really blows my mind how the media says they are the best things ever just because the presentation is really good
>>338223525
Some sections start as stealth sections, but as soon as you're spotted it turns into a gun fight. In U4 you can always run away and go into stealth again
>>338223525
yeah if you really liked the game and played through it more than once you would see that you could approach many of the scenarios entirely with stealth, and it would prevent multiple waves of extra bad guys from appearing if you were successful.
>>338223746
Why would you play an Uncharted game more than once though? I really don't see the appeal of playing a heavily scripted and incredibly linear game more than once.
>>338223604
>Uncharted and TLOU have really bland gameplay you can find in many other games, with decent for video games stories.
like what, other than Tomb Raider 2013 / RotTR?
>>338222008
incredibly right
>>338218919
narrativewise there is not much difference between 3rd person and 1st
>>338208602
I don't get it either, Crash Bandicoot and J&D were just okay games for their time but they've been a consistently boring developer since 7th gen and I don't know how people aren't tired of Uncharted yet.
>>338215385
For real anon. I beat uncharted 4 and now I'm going through all of them again.
>>338223904
because cinematic adventure serials are my favorite kind of game, and ND has done this niche genre really really well. Also they have bonus features like mirror-world-on-death, give weapons, bullet time, render modes, and cheats. Also there many many possible ways to approach every combat scenario.
I played all the games at least 2x through (except UC1, I went to that after finishing UC2 and 3 on crushing and I couldnt bring myself to finish it. Too tedious and frustrating)
>>338224215
presentation-wise there is
first person does not look like a movie. It breaks the immersion. Also the way the player moves in first person shooters is completely unrealistic
>>338216804
Yup
>>338223746
Really liking the game has nothing to do with it. Sure you can stealth some sections, but then again why would you if theg ame throws almost infinite ammo at you and is an action series to begin with and a really linera one at that.
I like the Uncharted series and played each game 2 times on normal and 2 times on crushing, but aside from that i just go back the chapters with the best setpieces and go get the treasures i'm missing.
Even the improved combat in U4 is barely enough to keep the interest in multiple playtroughs.
At least TLOU had some sense of tension since you'd manually have to heal and some enemies kill you in one hit
>Stop liking what I don't like
>>338216804
The gameplay's still mostly the same, just with more varied environments
>>338223962
Any other AAA third person shooter
Theres like a million
P KEKS mad or something?
>>338224768
There's a guy who was literally posting the same anti uncharted shitposts like 4 times a day almost every day for a bit leading up to release.
Someone's mad.
>>338208602
Sony's bitch.
>>338224363
This.
Because they transitioned from respected game developer with popular games into making extremely graphically impressive cinematic experiences that are in vogue right now.
They still are one of the best developers from a technical point of view.
>>338224754
the gameplay is not the same in UC2, it is vastly improved. UC1 was mediocre and the fact that it is the first game in the series is the main reason why so many people assume that the entire series is mediocre. They play UC1 to start the series chronologically and assume that the entire rest of the series will be the same. Then shitposters like you make them confirm their assumptions even though you dont know wtf you're talking about
>>338224363
It's got the graphics
>>338225297
>it is vastly improved
I played Uncharted 2 recently and really didn't notice much of a difference from 1.
2 is still my favorite and I really liked 1.
3 was more set pieces and had a disjointed story (like its missing a scene to tie some things together)
4 starts off very slow , and builds up towards the end. but its more subdued than the other ones. TloU had an influence I think. I wasn't a fan of TloU.
Best fucking graphics though.
>>338225570
Was that the trilogy on PS4?, because they changed the controls in 1
>>338225112
ND is a first-party developer that is 100% the property of Sony. Basically they do the same thing for Sony that Nintendo EAD does for Nintendo. Uncharted is like Sony's version of franchises like Mario/Zelda/Metroid.
Sony must make great bosses, because a sizable portion of their first-party devs consistently deliver high quality results
>>338224521
If uncharted is anything to go by thats irrelevant. Seeing as cutscenes still happen outside of the player's control most of the time.
>>338226689
it's not irrelevant; seeing the game world from a first person perspective where you are always strafing around and pointing a gun wherever you look is something you /only/ see in videogames and movies that are trying to look like videogames. The rest of the game can be cinematic as hell and it still wont seem as movie-like as it would if it were third person.
Maybe if we had a first person action game that seemed like a found-footage movie or looked like a go-pro/helmet-cam/body-cam, it could look comparably cinematic to a third person game like Uncharted. But again the whole unnatural strafing/backpedalling motions you make when you want to look around yourself while moving makes it seem very video-gamey
>>338227360
>seem as movie-like
This isn't a good thing and shouldn't be encouraged.
>>338227360
The entire argument is moot seeing as they werent very innovative to begin with. MGS did attempts at cinematic games earlier and Tomb Raider was the original Treasure Hunter 3rd person shooter shtick.
And something being "video-gamey" should never be considered a bad thing.
>>338228164
>>338228254
what's wrong with a game that is presented in such a way that it feels like a movie as you play? If you can still have the same gameplay and level of control with a cinematic presentation as you could without, I don't see how there's any problem with it. Cinematic just makes it look much more visually impressive.
The combat in Uncharted looks extremely cinematic ( >>338212847 ) but you have total gameplay control
>>338228254
>And something being "video-gamey" should never be considered a bad thing.
it isn't a bad thing - not unless you are trying to make a game that feels like a movie. But even then it's not a problem with the game actually *being* video-gamey; it's a problem with it *looking* video-gamey
>>338208602
Because Sonyggers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ2Fd7o8A90
I like U4 better than TLOU. Best part of TLOU was Pittsburgh. Though I did love the combat, the fights vs humans were much more fun than vs infected, and there were not enough fights in the game overall anyway
>>338212103
>absolutely zero cutting edge gameplay or game design
sounds a lot like Uncharted
>>338223046
>There's some really awful fucking opinions on this site though, people will disregard a game for the most autistic thing and other retards will mimic that and parrot it into every thread they make.
I've been going here for going on 10 years and with every year I hate it more and more.
>>338226325
>Bloodborne
>sony first party game
what
>>338214158
>>338214854
>>338215372
Uncharted is not big dumb loud bullshit. It's a true adventure in video game form with top notch A-class medium-pushing presentation and delivery. Everything is meticulously designed and directed in a way that naturally pushes the player along but allows for full freedom and control. It puts you in full control of some of the greatest action moments in gaming set to a brisk pace and clear atteention to detail and thought put into the delivery and execution of the plots from the way exposition is naturally presented, clear meaningful motivations, tonally consistent blend of humor, drama, and action, grounded acting and dialogue, substantial growth of characters. And to tie back to the gameplay, the beauty of the Uncharted series is its accessibility, diversity,and refinement of control from how snappy and responsive the cover is, how beautiful the animations are, all the different forms of attack at your disposal to mix up the gameplay next to the naturally evolving complexity of level design (seriously, later levels in Uncharted are INSANE in how expansive and vertical they are while blending in with the environments and having contextual reasons for layout and being entirely diverse and interesting like the entire boat level).
And the great part about 4 is that Naughty Dog have improved far beyond not only their competition but themselves internally. They've utilized the new hardware and applied what they learned from The Last of Us, to craft truly open-ended levels this time wherein you can miss entire parts of maps, and characters react realistically to whichever direction or action you choose. This part in the E3 demo isn't scripted. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sB0xy74Zrj8 You can go wherever you want here. There are no invisible walls.
>>338210510
>>338209448
>still spewing his pathetic shit onegaem meme
It won't be true no matter how much you cry, bitch boy.
You know what's not a meme though? Wiiu is fucking dead. Now petition more you begging nigger.
>>338232807
Has this already become the new copypasta or what?
>>338232807
Can i just brake and avoid the crash ? No? Okay
>>338208907
OP is talking about people, not /v/.
>>338214854
>>338215372
>Kojima
Oh boy, can't wait for more cinematic bullshit with clunky college freshman-tier philosopical dialogue, overly padded and convoluted exposition, and teenager-tier sophomoric "humor" like JOHNNY SHIT HIS PANTS LMAO and DUDE MERYLL'S BUTT LMAO XD
>>338232942
>bloodborne twice
heh.
I know the other is the DLC, but still funny.
>>338233254
People praise the Witcher 3 DLC as GOTY
>>338220826
Except Crash and Jak were the Chinese knock-off equivalent of what they were emulating.
Uncharted is the first series of theirs that's considered a "leader" of what it's doing.
>>338233254
He didn't even list Xeodrifter, Velocity 2x, Klaus, Gundam Breaker 3, Shadow of the Beast, or 3-on-3 Freestyle. Not only that, ps4 has all multiplats and they run best on ps4 as opposed to xbone and piiu. Ps4 has a million games, you meming nigger.
Sonyggers. Can you imagine how they'd react if Sony had control of Nintendo's IP (Nintendo still developed them) and Sony also bribed reviewers like they do for their games to get favorable reviews?
Super Mario Galaxy would probably have been the highest rated game ever created .
>>338233473
People care more about Crash and Jak more than they do Mario by a country mile.
>>338233542
Homefront runs better on Xbone
>>338233542
Where can I sign up to shill for sony online? is the pay good?
>>338233654
neogaf
>is the pay good
no, they do it for free
>>338233586
It is the highest rated game ever. And so is The Last of Us, Uncharted 2, and Gran Turismo 1 on metacritic.
>>338233654
>>338233648
>list games
>THOSE DON'T COUNT
>>338233835
Hey now, I wasn't questioning anything about game lists, I was asking where can I sign up to shill for Sony like you do. Seems like an easy job I can do.
>>338233642
lmao
>>338229240
the impressive part is that it looks impressive as opposed to being actually impressive
it's the old graphics vs gameplay debate
>>338233935
They really do though. Ask around online. Or idk step out of your nintengaf bubble.
>>338233835
I never said that, you said that multiplat games run better as if they wouldn't count on Xbone so i listed one that runs better on xbone
You should learn to read kiddo
>>338233745
But imagine how much higher it would be if the nintendo tax wasn't applied?
>>338234159
>Ask around online
Like you did on NeoGaf? lmao not even close dude, sorry you like chinese knock-off franchises for being on your platform of choice
>>338234256
There is no fucking tax and there is no Metacritic bias, you nintenkiddie piece of shit.
>>338208602
They make amazing games.
>>338233642
no, and especially not when Crash and Jak games were actually being released. Sure, Mario is not as huge now as he was back in the late-90's / early-2000's, but nowadays Crash and Jak are just nostalgic memories for 20-something gamers
>>338232807
yo those animations are seriously impressive
>>338234836
Go ahead. Ask ANYONE that is at least SOMEWHAT familiar with games.
9 times out of 10, they'll say they want another Crash or Jak than a fucking Mario game.
People on /v/ shed tears when they saw the Crash easter egg in Uncharted 4.
>>338235136
>people would say they want another game in a series that hasn't been made for like a decade than a game series that is still being made
wooooow great argument retard, that's not what you said anyways. Nobody cared about Crash and especially Jak compared to Mario
>>338235440
>Actually typing out woooooow
>>338235440
We can make a poll on /v/ RIGHT now. You want to make another thread?
I CAN GUARANTEE PEOPLE WILL VOTE THEY CARE MORE ABOUT CRASH THAN MARIO
Neofags literally worship naughty dogs, calling them "naughty gods"
>>338235928
kekarooni why are you so mad dude? Your poll means as much as the ones that voted sonyggers the worst fanbase after all.
Why are you so fucking desperate about this? Those franchises had no staying power and so they fucking died.
>>338236232
No they died because the developers stopped making games. NOT because of sales, you mong.
Naughty Dog is heralded because they don't rehash their fucking ip's. They always create something new and push the bar. They went from revolutionizing adventure games to revolutionizing platformers to revolutionizing action platformers to revolutionizing third person shooters COMBINING all elements then to revolutionizing storytelling in videogames meanwhile implementing grounded human and intense gameplay
>>338236524
holy shit the shilling is real
lmfao if you actually believe any of their games were revolutionary. Uncharted's graphics are the only area they can claim that. Gameplay has NEVER been their forte
>>338237054
Name a single tps that combines platforming, shooting, driving, sliding, melee, etc.
>>338209263
The video game part of TLoU was fucking terrible. If they want to writes good stories write a fucking book.
>>338237504
>I can't appreciate grounded contextually adult gameplay
>please appeal to my adhd sensibilities
tlou was only good because of its multiplayer. best console multiplayer in a long while. i might play some right now
>>338208602
the answer is casuals
>video games/nerd culture shit getting popular
>more and more casuals and normies get into gaming in the past five years
>only play shit that is heavily advertised
>usually western AAA games with paid reviews
>games that are "supposed to be taken seriously as art" that looks like a movie in some parts
>on the most popular console which a nerd must have for gamer cred
it isn't hard to figure out
>>338237054
Uncharted has always been pretty, but I'd say the series has more fame for its intricate set pieces.
and that's gameplay.
>have every sony console
>never played uncharted, god of war, jak and daxter, ratchet and klank
How did I do? Good? Bad?
>>338238992
i already knew it came on pc. doesn't matter. it came out like a year later, and if you check the reviews it doesn't fucking work on pc which is something you don't worry about on ps4.
>250 posts in
>no one posted it yet
Come on, post the screencap. You know the one, the one that makes me and everyone else really really mad.
>>338239506
horrible. you don't even like games. why the fuck did you buy sony consoles then? oh, to play bargain bin mechanically inept tonally immature bullshit like neptunia?
>>338239183
>implying ND could pay off basically everyone reviewing games without a single one of them jumping on the opportunity to get famous by blowing the whistle
it's really much easier (by that I mean not fucking impossible) to get high review scores by just releasing a game that reviewers actually like, rather than bribing everyone. It also helps that all the reviewers already worship ND for its reputation.
Kane & Lynch tried to pay off reviewers and that didnt work out so well for them.
Is there even a shred of evidence that Naughty Dog is paying off reviewers to give its games high scores?
>Uncharted 1-2 were pretty great action shooters with subpar stories and platforming
>Get Uncharted 4 on release
>It's 10 hours of really shitty platforming
>The shooting sections are all really terrible
Is it possible to get a refund through PSN store?.
