Name on point in which Consoles are advantaged to computers
protip: you can't
Cheaper
More accessible
>>338170204
Can you name a single PC exclusive that came out this year, that isn't indie, anime, strategy, had a budge of over 3 million, and runs at 60 fps 4k on a $300 machine. Hehe can't, well I guess I win.
Simplicity. A.K.A it just werks
You pop in a game in a console and expect it to work.
This is not the case for computer games, since they can have any random error caused by a piece of software/hardware installed
You can take a dump on them and you don't feel as bad because it didn't cost you as much.
>>338170683
Yeah I loved my ps2 too. Too bad that from ps3 and onwards you dont pop your game in a console and just works. They literally need a shit ton of patches. They crash, they freeze, they bug.
The only difference is that with a pc you can fix the issue by yourself, and in consoles you wait to whanever the fuck the dev want to fix the issue. If they do.
>on
Wew
>hey wanna come couch play some fightan
>hey wanna come share my computer desk and play some fightan
>>338170683
>Modern consoles
>Pop-in and play
Pick one.
>>338171008
You can actually fightan with PC at couch, but most are too poorfag to do so.
Most high profile console exclusive last year: Bloodborne, a deep and challenging action RPG that makes the most of the hardware to produce gorgeous graphics
Most high profile PC exclusive last year: Undertale, babby's first sad game that can run on my laptop from 2003
>>338170204
Ban threads like this, mods
Useless fucking garbage fishing for replies
Bloodborne
>>338171008
Oh great, this shit again, there is absolutely zero fucking reason why you can't also do couchplay with a PC, any input method (controller, hitbox, arcade stick) you pick will work, from there on out it's just about having long enough cables, a big enough screen and a fucking couch.
>>338170204
Multiplayer and lack of hackers thereof.
Less power draw
More dev support (see mkx)
More convenience
Less cables
>>338170907
Don't forget the mandatory installs on PS3 because of the slow as fuck blu ray drive it had.
PC doesn't have my favorite games.
Whoopdiedoo.
Games sells better on consoles.
>>338170204
splitscreen multiplayer
>>338170547
destroyed xD
There are some games I want to play but can't play on PC whereas I can play them on consoles. That is a massive advantage right there.
Also fewer cheaters online I guess.
>>338170204
100 bucks that you are the same cuck who's making all the Uncharted 4 threads now shifting the strategy to: "look pc guys can be as massive of a faggot as me"
>>338170204
N64/Gamecube/PS2 couch co-op and split-screen. PC never had that, and still doesn't.
Unfortunately consoles don't have this anymore and that's why PC is superior at the moment.
>>338173079
PC has always had split-screen or couch coop games though, a good and recent example is Trine.
>>338170547
>runs at 60 fps 4k on a $300 machine
Can you name a single game in the entire history of consoles that runs at 60fps 4k on a console?
>>338170547
>exclusives
>good
The good Ace Combat games will never get ported to PC
You dont have to communicate with or be surrounded by the steam pc gamer autist community
check fucking mate
>>338173538
Instead you're surrounded by preteens and their blatant immaturity.
Just dotting this one down as a 1-0 in my favor if you don't mind.
I can write essays on my pc. I can browse tons of websites. I can torrent shit. I can make music on my pc (ableton/protools), I can photoshop on my pc.
If you buy a pc strictly for gaming/to be an alternative to your console, you should kill yourself. Fucking hell these threads are dumb
t. Tripfag
Physical collectors editions
>>338170547
XCOM 2
Should I buy a ps4 for overwatch? I don't have a good pc and don't wanna spend over a grand for one
then again I don't wanna pay for jewstation plus either
>>338170547
Can you even name a single Xbone or PS4 game that runs at 1080p 60fps that isn't indie garbage? Can even be multi platform.
>>338170204
They are backed by single mega-corporations (well, not Nintendo) who can dump infinite cash on some of their exclusive games.
>>338173389
Fuck you!
When i get home from work i cba fucking about, i just put the disc in and play
Fyi i own a gaming pc
>>338170204
Games.
Seriously, I'm a PC fag as well, but consolefags don't need to fuck around with .ini files every time they want to play an old game.
>>338174027
MGSV
Battlefield 4 although it has some drops when 30 people fire off frag rounds.
>>338174307
>Running on lower than low setting on PC for some settings
>Textures still look like shit at times..
You sure showed the PKEKS
>>338174307
Just MGSV and only the PS4 version. BF4 does indeed run at 60fps but not at 1080p.
>>338173265
>doesnt reply
btfo
>>338174485
>weeb and dudebro games
>nigger
>>338170289
fast food is cheaper and more accessible
yet its unhealthy as fuck
>>338174268
Turning on my pc and launching a game takes about 40
Turning on my ps and launching a game takes about 2 minutes.
Say what you want but if you have a not shit pc it's way faster to just play.
>>338175176
My PC doesn't ever get turned off so it takes me about 5 seconds to launch a game.
>>338171292
LOL I love how desperate Sonycucks are.
>Muh Bloodborne
They have to shill their only game.
>>338173538
So 9 year olds on COD is any better lol fag
>>338174027
Not him and I only play on PC but offhand I can think of Halo 5 but it uses dynamic resolution scaling and has very heavy LOD and pop-in. Overwatch is 60fps also with res scaling also apparently not much but overwatch is not exactly the most graphic intensive game.
Digital Foundry's video on Halo 5 is good you get to see what compromises are required to get that performance on a console.
>>338175167
Subway isnt
>>338173538
The console community is fucking horrid bro. I played COD4 on xbox 360 and MW2 on PC. The difference in how much better the playerbase on PC was is night and day.
>>338174178
I'm in the same boat, anon. Even the old ones can't be emulated well. An emulated Shattered Skies still has major issues running on highish end modern hardware
>>338175807
Subway isn't healthy. You can make a sandwich that's somewhat healthy if you order a six inch with just like turkey, low fat mayo and veggies.
But you can also go to McDonald's and order a salad but we all know nobody is going to McDonald's for a salad.
>>338171292
This is the only right answer. And I mean literally the only one.
>>338174884
>anon asks for games that run 1080p/60fps
>provide example
>D-D-D-D-DOESNT MATTER BECAUSE SH-SHIT GRAFIXXX
Okay?
>>338170204
People like you don't use them.
That's the biggest advantage they have for me.
>>338175167
>food analogy
retard detected
>>338175176
>turning off your PC
Don't you fucking use for other things? Why would you ever turn it off except for updates?
>>338176316
There's still very few games that can run 1080p 60fps on console. I can run every game like that on PC and with ultra graphics.
Console graphics are gimped big time to get that kind of performance.
>>338170907
>>338171104
PS3 I can see this being the case. But the with PS4 game updates just like a PC. Everything is done while you're still playing games and shit. And most system updates don't even take that long.
I like to actually own physical copies of my games. I like the sony ecosystem and how well everything is integrated together especially the handheld/home console stuff.
Also local multiplayer and generally speaking playing with friends. Oh and it just wirks, put disk in and you play the game. No tweaking the settings, no looking for fixes, no crashes or experience killing bugs.
And last but not least the PC community is filled with literal cancer from reddit. Not trying to argue that consoles don't have their share of retards but at least it's not as bad as the average steam nigger.
This comes from someone who has a PC dedicated to video games since the early 2000s. I watched PC gaming die and then turn into this fucking meme that it is today.
>>338175167
This implies consoles will eventually kill me. And this is not true.
>>338174268
>>>>cba fucking about
>go to couch and sit down
>press home button on controller
>select the game you want to play
>press A/X to launch game
>go to shelf
>look through game collection
>take the game off the shelf and out of the case
>go to console
>press button to open disk tray
>put disc in
>go to couch and sit down
Which of these takes more fucking about?
>>338170204
Sharable/Refundable physical copies.
>>338170204
Comfy controller options out of the box, that's about the only thing that rustled me when I got my PC, I had to buy an adapter for my 360 controllers.
>>338176673
This entire thing, basically.
>>338176630
Cool story brocookie.
>>338170547
>Sonyggers still THIS buttmad that they fell for the console-meme
lol
PC:
>Upgradeable
>Requires a minimum of brain to set up (Litterally a kid could do it
>Have mostly better fps per dollar than any console (not emulated)
>Mods for pretty much any game
>Ability to change your own settings on games to make it look like you want
>Reduced input lag
>Can be used both as a console and a computer
>Can play pretty much any console up to wiiu gen (Including handhelds)
>No restrictions on which controller you have to use
>Possibility to organize your own games as you wish
>Can be used for anything else
>Looks way cooler than any console
>Can be more silent than any console
>Can be less heating than any console
>Doesn't require to pay to be able to play online additionally to a internet plan
>High refresh rate monitors and possibilities to run games at a higher frame rate than 60 cuckfps
The list could go on forever, Console players are just like IOS users, they like to be spoonfed and have everything set for them at the cost of a lower performance and experience for the same price
Litterally NO EXCUSE
>>338176965
Thanks anon. I think facts are cool too.
Local Co-Op
For people with friends.
Not that you know what that is.
>>338174027
Dragon Quest Heroes and Wolfenstein the New Order. Aside from that, I have remasters that also run at 60fps. Granted they probably have slight drops.
>>338174027
DOOM
>>338176630
>I can run every game like that on PC and with ultra graphics.
I'm sure everyone is willing to invest in a high end PC and keep it up to date to play console games...And I'm sure everyone is obsessed with graphics and performance. Consoles flopping so hard is proof that if the game is not on par with some imaginary hypocritical standards it's literally unplayable.
>>338176673
>I like to actually own physical copies of my games.
It's 1's and 0's on a disk
Do you know what a downloaded game is? It's 1's and 0's on a disk
CD drives and Hard Drives work off the same exact principles, the only practical difference is that a CD is limited to one set of directories per disk and has to be manually changed out each time you want to access a different directory. It's the same exact data.
A game written to your hard drive is just as much a "physical copy" as a game burned to a CD. The game content and logic is still made up of the same 1's and 0's
>>338171338
much more expensive, much more complicated, requires cables everywhere, not all tv's can display your pc properly. As for the question
>Name a point in which Consoles are advantaged to computers
the point where i dont have the money for all this shit and can't be assed
>>338177004
It's not about excuses. You either like something or you don't.
People should just be allowed to play on whatever they want no matter what the reason is.
>>338177128
>People should just be allowed to play on whatever they want no matter what the reason is.
You can, but that doesn't change the facts, friend.
>>338170204
Here is the argument that kills the consolefags: Backwards compatibility and no sequels.
There is PS1, PS2, PS3 and PS4. You can't just pop in a game from PS4 and get it going on PS2. My PC is from 2015 and it plays games from 2000. I can, however, find a PC from 2000 that can play a game (shit graphics) from 2015.
This example is exaggerated, but it still proves the point.
Can consoles EVER top this?
>>338170204
fuck
i have written about three, then deleted
again and again
in reality there is none
>>338177254
If I know something is wrong, and I want to do it, I'm going to do it anyway, so you can throw facts around all you want. It won't change anything.
>>338176724
>discs
>not having the game installed with a NoCD edition
What a fucking kek you have to be.
>turn PC on
>turns on
>double click
>take controller
>turn it on
>play
This is, hands down, the best thing.
>>338176673
>own
Lol, try copying the shit you own and you won't be prosecuted, but funnily enough, i can't reproduce my own shit if it's a video game, you don't own your games, you own a licesence, even if you buy a disk you dumb fuck.
>>338177064
>I'm sure everyone is willing to invest in a high end PC and keep it up to date
Right now if you get a high end PC it will keep you at 60fps and 1080p for years and years. We're at the point where 4k is the next big benchmark.
Personally I don't care about 4K yet, not until 4K monitors become way cheaper. I'll be happy running games at 1080p and 60fps for the next 6 years and probably even longer than that.
>>338170204
The enjoyment of buying quality hardware and games, then paying for multiplayer and content
>>338177269
>I can, however, find a PC from 2000 that can play a game (shit graphics) from 2015.
I guarantee you that you can't. Even 2d indieshit released to day takes up more hard drive space and uses more RAM than my Windows ME PC even had.
Hey PCucks
can you even name a game that runs at 8k 200fps with Arma 3 graphics Max settings + enb + environment mods on a 300 dollar pc?
Heh, didn't think sofuckin losers
>>338173265
Okami ps3
>Can play my console for years on end and nothing will ever happen to it unless you do something absolutely physical to it and the problem becomes hardware related. Only need to upgrade once every 3 - 5 years.
>Can't even fucking depend on the PC. At any moment the PC can fuck up for some unrelated shit. Not only do you have to worry about shit like hardware, but the operating system can fuck up at a moments notice, you have to worry about meaningly fucking crap like keeping your hard drive fragmented or else several months later you will find a slow as shit PC that will run certain things slowly (or dish out 500 dollars on SSD drives), you have to worry about the limit of things you can put in it, you have to worry about the shit you can download and the things you can put in it, you have to worry about registry related problem which can fuck up how things run, you have to so much shit to run a game with other features for more "fun" (need to download 3 different mods for Third Age Total War to "fully" enjoy the mod, have to change the name of the base folder that makes certain mod runnable, make sure mods are downloaded in this way, and have to due some registry shit and update files to FINALLY play the mod), only way to play games is to be a GABEN shit eater or be a typical peasant and torrent shit.
Yeah fuck that shit. Never falling for the PEESEE peasant machine meme again.
>>338177040
And PC doesn't have local co-op? I play UT3 and Rayman Legends, just to name 2, with my GF
>granted, I need to use a controller adapter for the 360
>>338170204
accessible
zero troubleshooting ever (but you can't improve things if they're bad, so it's a mix up)
used to be a guaranteed level of quality
>>338177545
The reason I play on console is because my favorite games aren't on PC, and I don't like all the fucking hassle every once in a while. Every other game has some sort of problem with this or that setup and needs fixing this or that.
If I truly wanted to play mediocre console ports at 60fps, I would buy a PC. I don't buy those games anyway, so why bother.
I don't buy my games new either, so the
>muh 70 euros on release
argument goes out the window.
>>338176181
>mayo
Mayo is for faggots.
>>338170204
Gameplay.
>>338170204
In order for you console fucks to even have a game, it has to be made on a computer.
>>338175167
You're comparing food to technology, do you fucking eat electronics?
>>338177485
>turn PC on
>press home button on controller
>steam automatically takes you to big picture mode
>you can browse your steam library and start playing without even needing a kbm plugged in
fixed
>>338177064
There is the problem that once something is "PS4" exclusive, your PS3 goes to shit. We have recommended settings.
>To play, you should have this, if possible.
>Don't have it? Nevermind, just play it on lower settings!
There is no day-to-day deadline.
>>338178037
.....and?
how does this mean literally anything worthy of note?
>>338177430
It might change your mind. That's what a debate is for.
Gravity Rush 2
Yakuza 6
The Idolmaster
The King of Fighters XIV
Kingdom Hearts HD 2.8: Final Chapter Prologue
The Last Guardian
Megadimension Neptunia VII
New Hot Shots Golf
NieR Automata
Ni-Oh
Ratchet & Clank
Star Ocean: Integrity and Faithlessness
Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End
Dead or Alive Xtreme 3: Fortune
Disgaea 5: Alliance of Vengeance
Everybody's Gone to the Rapture
Fairy Fencer F: Advent Dark Force
Horizon Zero Dawn
Dreams
Inferno Climber
Song of Memories
Bloodborne
Driveclub
Knack
Killzone: Shadow Fall
inFAMOUS: Second Son
Omega Quintet
Onechanbara Z2: Chaos
The Order: 1886
Tearaway Unfolded
Detroit: Become Human
Until Dawn
Deep Down
Valkyria: Azure Revolution
N++
Robinson: The Journey
Dragon Quest XI
Kitchen
Combo Steel
Diao Bao
Kill Strain
RIGS
Matterfall
Without Memory
A Few Days Left
Anger Force
Fanta Blade
The Castle Game
Celestial Sword
WiLD
The Witch and the Hundred Knight 2
Headmaster
The Tomorrow Children
Fat Princess Adventures
3on3 Free Style
AlieNation
Sword of Heaven
Godling
KOI
Guns Up!
Wattam
Super Hypercube
SpookMash
Prismatic Solid
Never Gone
Gran Turismo Sport
Hardware: Rivals
RIME
What Remains of Edith Finch
VizionEck
Summer Lesson
Stories: The Hidden Path
Ready to Run
One Upon Light
Earth Defense Force 4.1: The Shadow of New Despair
The Lost
Brawl
Drawn to Death
Inferno Climber
Shadow of the Beast
Code: 12
Kido: Ride on Time
Mobile Suit Gundam
Let it Die
Ace Combat 7
Ni No Kuni II: Revenant Kingdom
Modern Zombie
Disaster Report 4
Hunger
Wild Guns Reloaded
Please stop making console war threads.
Get a hobby, like write/draw-fagging and make some Anons happy with your words/brush.
>>338177921
There's literally nothing to play on console though. PC has WAY more exclusives, they might not all be AAA games but there's plenty that are great games.
I can also play games from years ago on a PC, meanwhile a PS4 or Xbone can only play games from the current gen and remastered games from last gen.
The only console that has exclusives good enough to be worth it for me to buy it is the Wii U. Other than that I'll just enjoy the hundreds of games on PC that you won't ever get.
My sole point against PC gaming is that OP exists.
PC gaming has led OP to post this, and I need no further proof that the medium does terrible things to people. It's a platform made by jackasses for jackasses.
>>338178279
>Last Guardian
You just invalidated your whole list by listing a game that nobody will ever get to play.
>>338178195
That you're playing the computer game on weak ass computer.
>>338178037
In order for you pcfats to have a game, it has to be made on a computer.
>>338178279
>>338178145
I still have to tweak that one, probably just find a way to map a 360 controller shortcut to something.
>>338177921
>If I truly wanted to play mediocre console ports at 60fps, I would buy a PC.
Good thing that's not all PCs have to offer, then
Like your post could have been perfectly fine if you didn't include this line implying that you actually don't know shit about vidya
>>338176758
I've never been to a store that gives you refunds for your games
You can be a non-autistic human being and have actual friends to play with.
>>338178279
>Hey, mom. I posted it again!
>>338178478
how many of those aren't early access scams or f2p crap?
>>338178413
>game was made on a computer so its a computer
How is that high powered computer of yours handling every computer-made console game then?
>>338178349
My favorite games of all time are on consoles. Not a single PC exclusive interests me. You can say they're all good games but I don't give a fuck, none of them interest me in the slightest.
Why is it impossible for /v/ to enjoy both consoles and PC?
Do you have some issues against that?
>>338178434
and your point is ?
>>338178478
>>338178279
If you're comparing exclusives, then it's just a question of which has more games that interest you personally. It's a point that doesn't really work if you're trying to objectively compare the merits of two systems.
>>338178478
>PS4 has good games
>counterpost is that PC has good games
Why not have both?
>>338177680
>have an athlon 64 x2 from 2006
>play street fighter v
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>338178384
And PC users list Star Citizen as well so...
>>338178384
Good post my fellow pc brother
>>338178650
Because the marketing scheme is bad.
>>338178613
How many games in the post he replied to aren't even released yet? Some of them don't even have release dates announced.
>>338178631
There's a group of people here, who for some reason, can't stand the idea of somebody enjoying something, and they're committed to dragging these people down with them. I am not saying everyone does this, mind.
I prefer consoles, but there's a time and place for PC games, and I like that.
>>338178434
how retarded are you?
>>338178650
Because having both costs at least a few hundred dollars more.
>>338178634
That his point was irrelevant.
>>338178478
And not a single game on that list looks interesting to me whatsoever.
Whoopdiedoo.
>>338178541
What made you think I haven't looked at PC exclusive games as well?
Not a single one of them interests me.
>>338178784
I don't quite follow what you mean.
Are you willing to explain? I'll hear you out if you do.
>>338178639
>>338178631
>>338178650
>being reasonable on a shitposting thread
>>338178790
those games will be finished eventually and will be great, early access scams never get finished but keep taking money, f2p trash might be good at the start but inevitably goes to shit eventually
>>338177004
The memes are strong with this one but I'll bite.
>Upgradeable
Not sure if it's a good thing when your computer is left behind and you have to pump money in it to prevent it from becoming obsolete.
>Requires a minimum of brain to set up (Litterally a kid could do it
That's why it's filled with memesters.
>Have mostly better fps per dollar than any console (not emulated)
What? Is framerate even an indicator of a good game?
>Mods for pretty much any game
0.09% of PC games have mods worth a damn. The rest is just shitty texture swaps at most.
>Ability to change your own settings on games to make it look like you want
And waste time tweaking shit?
>Reduced input lag
W-what? There is no noticable difference. Games play exactly the same. A potential reduced input lag is only impactful in meme multiplayer games like CS which are pc exclusives.
>Can be used both as a console and a computer
Consoles have become really good entertainment machines.
>Can play pretty much any console up to wiiu gen (Including handhelds)
Emulation sure is a thing but you have to wait forever and even then some games have issues. You could have listed the ability to play them in HD.
>No restrictions on which controller you have to use
There is thousands shitty 3rd party controllers for consoles including KB+M.
>Possibility to organize your own games as you wish
That doesn't make any sense.
>Can be used for anything else
Redundant.
>Looks way cooler than any console
Makes you look like a neckbeard faggot.
>Can be more silent than any console
What the fuck is that? You're not straping it to your ear.
>Can be less heating than any console
But requires more maintenance and to pump money in coolers.
>Doesn't require to pay to be able to play online additionally
WoW subscription was $20/month and you were happy to pay.
>High refresh rate monitors and possibilities to run games at a higher frame rate than 60 cuckfps
No good game takes advantage of that. Only pc meme games.
>>338178631
Yeah, you're only allowed to say you're an idort nowadays if you only have nice things to say about Sony. If you don't then it's "falseflagging".
/v/ is Neogaf-lite.
>>338178931
Oh dear. I see now, I made it sound like you SHOULD have both and that's the ideal situation. That's not what I meant, my mistake.
Unless money's an issue there's no problem with siding with one side over the other.
>>338178942
>And not a single game on that list looks interesting to me whatsoever.
Good for you, then PS4 is the system for you. Don't act like it's objectively superior because it coincides with your own personal taste
>>338177680
OK, make it 2012-2016. My bro-in-law has that computer. He plays witcher 3 on a 660ti, ultra @1080p. By that token, he'll be playing games for at least the next couple of years no problem. Can you play that Metal gear solid 4 you bought for your PS3 on your PS4? Can you play Bloodborne on your PS3?
>>338179032
You could say reason is the highest form of shitposting. It certainly seems to make some people angry, at least.
>>338178942
>Not a single one of them interests me.
That's fine, but saying that all PCs have is console ports is ignorant and stupid, don't do it
>>338178773
Alright, I can admit that's a fair point.At least Star Citizen gets regular updates, unlike Last Guardian.
Cost.
If you actually build a console-tier PC, mustards call you an idiot for expecting even console-tier performance.
>>338179067
>you're only allowed to say you're an idort nowadays if you only have nice things to say about Sony. If you don't then it's "falseflagging".
That also applies to the other 2 companies tho
>>338179168
Where have I ever said that I think the PS4 is objectively better?
Its not, its objectively inferior to PC. Fact is, I'm lazy and have no interest in peddling with all the bullshit that comes with PCs. I have a job, school and my tour in the army coming up, I don't give a fuck about peddling settings or tweaking game files because a game doesn't run well on my system.
PC is the best objectively but that doesn't mean its best for everybody.
How fucking hard is this to get through your thick heads? I've seen threads like this for the past 3 years that I've been here and they've probably been around even longer.
>>338179249
This.
My PC is a completely average, middle-of-the-road prebuilt because I don't have the time or money for that shit, and I sure as hell don't need it.
>>338178559
Have you not returned it to Gamestop within a week?
>>338179192
>That's fine, but saying that all PCs have is console ports is ignorant and stupid, don't do it
And where did I say that?
Now you're just looking for reasons to get upset.
>>338178478
>A couple of MMOs. Korean MMOs on top of that. (TOP FUCKING KEK!) Are you serious?
>Generic baseless 1000th copy+paste online MMOFPS shooters.
>Furry trash indie game.
>A couple of games apart of a dead fucking genre, RTS.
>Dungeon Crawlers action games that are literally the same throughout the entire genre. Played one game and you literally played them all. Top-down games are old school, go away grandpa.
>Indie trash, many of which are still in fucking early access.
>Warhammer Fantasy babbies eating up shitty games that only hold weight because of the title and not because the game is fucking good, L4D ripoff, and another generic baseless copy+paste MMOFPS grimdark shooter.
>Space Sims literally in life support and are only holding on by their niche autistic fanbase.
This is the shit that peepee mustard racemen are proud of. Only thing interesting there is Total War and even that is fucking up for you guys.
Wow... this is the power of the PC!
>>338178960
We can't have both, because only a fraction of players can afford both consoles and games for them. Most of the time, you just have to settle for the one that appeals to you most. Game creators are encouraged to create exclusives for no other reason than "No one else can have it, so people will buy our thing!"
If this incentive stopped, creators would be encouraged to make their market as broad as possible.
Broad market = Multiplat.
Multiplat = We can have both.
If this were the case, people wouldn't focus on game libraries, but at the consoles themselves and technological specs. THIS is what console creators don't want, because people would do the math and deduce that they can play everything on a reasonably-priced PC.
>mfw I almost bought a PS4
>mfw I still miss Bloodborne a little
>mfw my money was better spent on a PC
Seriously, I want to know how much more game devs get by creating exclusives. I bet the PC audience can offer more.
>constant restrless console bashing involving lies and misinformation
>feel like invested with a holy mission to "convert" god knows who with the same old tired arguments
>somehow nintendrones or sonyggers or whatever the fuck bots are the worst fanbase
>>338179610
>Implying modern consoles are any better
Anon... I think it's time to stop.
Reminder that PCucks are the biggest shitposters on /v/
>>338179502
>If I truly wanted to play mediocre console ports at 60fps, I would buy a PC. I don't buy those games anyway, so why bother.
Which I read as
>PC only has mediocre console ports, albeit at 60 fps
Maybe I misinterpreted what you meant
>>338179249
But you can build a higher-than-console-tier PC and still have it cost the same with a little foresight
Let's say you got a PS4 at launch ($400), end up paying for a generation's worth of PSN+ ($350), and then buy at least 25 $60 games throughout the generation. That's $2250.
Now let's say you get a decent PC, and find one of those retailers that sell games for 20% off. A $1000 PC with 25 $48 games is $2200.
>>338179034
>Not sure if it's a good thing when your computer is left behind and you have to pump money in it to prevent it from becoming obsolete.
And is it better when your console is left behind and all you can do is pump money into a different console? Plus the possibility of all your games becoming virtually obsolete as well?
>>338179719
I see. This is actually a solid point.
I apologize for my statement, I had forgotten how money is a factor.
I think consoles are okay, but anything you could ever list, i could just name a better version of it (in pretty much any way) that exists on the PC.
I don't even think I can name an exception to that.
>>338179993
Don't worry about it, it may not be to you, but I'm a scrooge. Your statement was actually really open and friendly, thank you for not calling names at once.
>>338180113
>a better version of it
Anyone can argue based on subjectivity, anon.
>>338179887
>maybe I
You DEFINITELY did.
English is hard.
>>338180113
yea brother!!!
fight the good fight!!!!
we wuz vidya n shiiiet!!!
>>338170204
consoles are superior in being owned by fags and children
>>338180212
Thanks. Good luck and have fun with your PC, or whatever you play on.
>>338180217
In many cases I can argue objective quality that makes the PC version better. For example:
>I want to play an indie game
>on consoles I have to deal with DRM directly from Sony, MS and Nintendo that limits my experience, and thus, my fun
>on PC, 90% of the time I can just DL the game directly from the developer. No origin or steam required.
things like that make a big difference.
>>338180113
Yakuza games, Shin megami tensei, Monster hunter
>>338180113
Out of curiosity, could you give an example of what you mean? I'll listen.
>>338180397
LOL
so true!!!
fight em!!!
>>338170289
PC games are much cheaper than those on consoles?
>>338170204
They actually have games
>>338180408
I play on PC, but used to have a 360. Seeing both sides of the fence, I can say that PC is superior for me
>go to steam
>download a bunch of games
>pirate the rest
>summer sales
Compared to
>go to city
>go to shop
>buy game
>keep receipt
>find a store that sells them cheaper
>regret it
It was really a load of hassle.
What console do you play on?
>>338180439
>>on consoles I have to deal with DRM directly from Sony, MS and Nintendo that limits my experience, and thus, my fun
what do you mean?
>>338170204
>Ease of use/accessibility
Protip: I can
While i do enjoy playing vidya on my PC, my Xbone is pretty straight forward, store is already available on it, I can set standard controls across games, I don't have to faff about looking for peripherals and it connects to my TV, switching it off/on, controlling volume and supports TV input.
Its simple, my gf can use it without struggling and I don't have to fuck about with driver updates every time a new game comes out.
>>338170204
Local multiplayer
Pop-n'-play (at least in theory)
>>338180439
And what happens when a PC version literally doesn't exist?
Then you'll just say that some similar game to it is better because its on PC, or 60fps?
>>338180263
No, it's pretty easy to interpret it that way
You could have worded it differently, like 'the only things I would play are mediocre console ports at 60fps'
Because it doesn't make any sense for you to bring up mediocre console ports if you 'don't buy those games anyways' and there's lots more games on PCs
PC is the master race
now I truly see!!
I never wanted to play video games in the first place!!!!!!!
I just wanted to suck Total Biscuits cock this whole time!!
>>338179847
Not shown: all the fags who blame PC users and are actually worse cause PC users, falseflaggers, and shitposters bait these users and that's why they exist.
>>338180646
My favorite system is my PS3 but I have a PS4 and Wii U, among other older ones.
I have a PC as well, I just mostly use it for emulation and freeware, the odd MMO or two.
Also your points about buying games do hold up well. Personally, I love the rare chance to leave my house so I get a thrill out of shopping in person, but I can see why it would be pain for some people.
>>338170547
>6 replies and 174 posts later
>still no actual answer
KEK
>>338180749
WE DINDU NUFFIN!!!!
I SWEAR WE WUZ GUD BOYZ!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>338180747
What game is that?
>>338180742
I had stated that PC exclusives didn't interest me in a separate post, but fair enough.
>>338180653
I'd say he means the fact that once Sony says "Our PS4 will not be backwards-compatible with PS3", it's the word of god. PC is best in this, because I can find DRM-free games where no one tells me I can't play it on my microwave.
>>338180653
Hardware specifically designed to limit your experience, like the lack of modding, UI customization, things like that. They might not matter to most people, but for the money I pay I sure don't feel happy that I'm being so restricted.
>>338180732
>And what happens when a PC version literally doesn't exist?
Like you said, another similar game will be better.
>>338180523
I'll give you an example:
>you guys have Bayonetta, we have the infinitely superior Devil May Cry
>you say Shin Megami Tensei, we have Final Fantasy 13 (I hate both series, but at least one isn't restricted by console DRM)
>you say Bloodborne, I say Dark Souls
>you say Splatoon, Halo, or Killzone? I say Overwatch, Battleborn, Quake, Team Fortress, Counterstrike, Unreal Tournament, any shooter infinitely better because of KBM controls (and thanks to Shadowrun and cross-console testing, this will forever remain uncontested)
And so on.
CONSOLE GAMING?
WHY, THAT'S OUTRAGEOUS
>>338177790
Red ring of death/10
>>338179719
No. Exclusives can exist for 2 reasons:
1.Console manufacturers need to move hardware units and invest into games that will convince potential buyers.
2.Developer/publisher wishes to focus on one platform in order to make a better game.
Generally speaking exclusives are a good thing, they are usually the best games ever made. It allows the developers to focus on their gale and deliver a better product. When From moved away from trying to appeal to the mass multiplat market we ended up with the masterpiece that is Bloodborne. Now look at what happened when they ended up going back to making games for every platform that have to appeal to everyone.
Another thing is about riskier projects. A multiplat publisher will never fund a risky game because we need the wide audience. A studio funded by 1st party money on the other hand will be able to take more risk and it may pay off. There is countless good original games that only exist because sony/nintendo/sega/microsoft funded it. Souls franchise wouldn't even exist without sony.
You wonder how much money the PC brings, the answer us pocket change. It's the reason why every publisher treats PC like second class.
It may also have perverse effects to recklessly port everything to PC, you ruin communities, you devaluate the games, you give the franchise a bad reputation. If you are not careful you are going to scare the console users away and be left with a meme audience that won't even buy your games.
One last thing, you are shitting on exclusives and defending the consumers like the brave keyboard warrior you are. How do I never see you ask for PC games to get ported to consoles? How do I never see you asking for Nintendo games to get portef to other platforms?
>>338181006
>those examples
I don't necessarily agree with all of these, but fair enough. Play what you like and have fun.
>>338181015
>4 movies
Versus
>4 games
Gee, I wonder which one I should choose?
>>338181015
I"m ok with this
>>338180880
Don't get me wrong, I love having the smug look when I go out and buy the physical copy of a game I want.
>Wii U
>PS3
>PS4
those are actually quite nice combos, Nintendo and Sony, the only thing left is an XBone and you can play everything.
HAHA I'LL SETTLE FOR MULTIPLATS AND INDIE GARBAGE!!!
THANKS GABE :DDDD
>>338181095
There's a third reason, but it's very rare
>Developer/publisher gets paid to make a game by the company that makes a specific console
>game wouldn't have been funded otherwise
Bayonetta 2 for instance
>>338181006
>Like you said, another similar game will be better.
So just because you personally have access to it, you have the balls to claim its objectively better.
This is why people hate PC elitists right here.
>>338181175
>2016
>Last Guardian
You just invalidated your entire list, that won't release before 3104.
>>338170547
>excluding strategy
Why?
Video games??
Fuck that shit!!
GIVE ME REDDIT MEMES :DDD
>>338181006
>its superior because i can play it on PC
what a retard
>>338181175
>11 games under PC
Next time put more effort into research than you do into making the image itself.
>>338181146
Yeah. There's just a tiny enough lineup on games I want on Xbone that I kind of want it, and yet small enough that I'm afraid I would just regret having it later.
It's frustrating being on the fence like this.I'm also scared to spend money with the NX looming overhead, because I have no idea what it even is.
WE DID IT, PC MASTER RACE BROS! :DDD
>>338181340
>It's superior because it gives the consumer the choice to play it on whichever system they're most comfortable with
Giving the consumer options is objectively superior to holding something they might like hostage with $300 ransom.
>>338181310
>console gaming shows mostly unreleased games
>>338170204
There is none. I'm proud to be a part of PCMR and so should be you.
>>338181240
>>338181340
>So just because you personally have access to it, you have the balls to claim its objectively better.
I have access to many games actually. I never said I hated consoles, as I said in my initial post, but the PC just offers better alternatives. Right now I have access to a PS4 and WiiU, but I don't think they offer enough. I'm trying to be fair, you understand, but I will not ignore facts.
And the fact is that most console games just aren't worth the hassle. I don't want gimped controls in Splatoon and Bayonetta. I don't want Sony's facebook button in my face when playing a souls game. I don't want Microsoft disconnecting me from Halo if I don't have my kinect hooked up. With PC, I very rarely have to deal with that, if at all. So wouldn't logic dictate that the games on PC are better, even if by a small amount?
DELETE THIS
NO.. NOO!!... NOOOO!!!!!!!!
MOM, CALL TOTAL BISCUIT RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!1
PLAYING WITH A CONTROLLER??
FUCK OFF NORMIES!!!!!!!!
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
THIS BOARD IS FOR WIZARDS ONLY
>>338181729
>NORMIES
Fuck off, normalfag.
>>338181729
piss off reddit
>>338170204
>le pc master race
I bet you browse reddit too with that kind of echo chamber mentality.
The only "master race" is idort, buying and playing whatever they want like any adult with a job would do.
>>338181507
You are favoring a game solely because of the platforms its available on, it doesn't get any more elitist than this
THEY RUINED OUR INDUSTRY
THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE OUR TIME TO SHINE, PC BROS!!!!
>>338181121
>Xenoblade
>Movie
Delusional cunt.
>>338181095
Let's address the last point, your answers are actually incredibly concise and good. Thank you.
>Why not ask for Nintendo ports to other platforms
I'd fucking LOVE that. I want to play Zelda and shit like that! And I want console bros to play them too! By hating exclusives, I don't just say "Give me what you have and only me", I'm talking about a world where everyone can get every game they want.
Also, I can't ask for PC exclusives to get ported to consoles, because I don't keep up with what we have exclusively. I keep up with what PC doesn't have, however. If I could, I'd happily get all PC games ported to consoles.
I get your point about exclusives being better, but there is still the problem of taste
>put out BB on PS4 as exclusive
>PC gamers cry because it's not there, PS4 gamers play it and love it
But what if you put out something people don't like?
>Not supported by sony, make an FPS exclusive for PS4
>no great response, doesn't sell well because crowd doesn't like it
>a company that could've made a great PC FPS goes to ground because they can't afford to port to PC
It's all about the crowd response, if BB went to Wii, it'd probably flop because those who bought a Wii don't play these games.
What about timed exclusives?
>"We'll give you $$$, you make the game exclusive for us as long as we don't go out with another console. After that, you can freely port it."
Wouldn't that solve our problem?
>>338181838
Elitism is when you favor something because it's accessibility is limited. That post says the exact opposite.
>>338181548
>but the PC just offers better alternatives
Yes, in your subjective opinion. Don't act like some high and mighty god of taste who thinks his opinions are fact.
It just makes you look like an idiot.
>tfw own a PS2/3/4, Vita, PSP, 3DS, Wii, 360, and decent PC
Feels good not to be restricted by shitters.Wii-U and Xbone are still trash
>>338181867
I don't want to shine. I just want people to be able to play the games they want to without being pigeonholed into spending an extra $300.
And I don't understand how people can kneel down at the altar of judaism and act like this business model this is inherently positive for consumers.
>>338181406
That's why I went for PC, every single game I had in my 360 library was on PC and more. In comparison to that, there was a game I never played, made by a company who made something I can get on PC (DaS2).
>mfw I bought a PC because I wanted to play knights
Also, what about portables? I'll be getting a 3DS for my GF once payday comes. Any alternatives?
>>338182198
>I just want people to be able to play the games they want to without being pigeonholed into spending an extra $300.
Why is this a bad thing?
If I want to play a PC exclusive game, I need to spend money on a good gaming PC and other equipment just to play that one game.
But I guess thats okay because were talking about mustard race here. If you have to buy a console for some game, now thats a travesty.
>>338170204
cause maybe I don't want to be stuck playing bethesda and ubisoft games the rest of my life
>>338182385
There's from, and Valve, and a whole load of other games. Bethesda and Ubisoft are multiplats, but what other options do we have?
>>338170547
The Division idiot
>>338182242
I don't have a Vita, but if you're interested in Eastern-style games like JRPGs the Vita is flooded with those.
The 3DS has a more well-rounded library and doesn't need an additional memory card, so it might be the safer choice unless the Vita's specialized library suits your girlfriend.I have a 3DS myself, the original model, and I quite like it.
>>338181991
>Yes, in your subjective opinion.
Some are opinions, but I can back them up with facts.
>>338181950
In a way, it is. The first one had 10 hours of cutscenes, ontop of 50 hours of nonstop talking and waiting for the game to finish scripted BS, like fights that dragged on forever because of, well let's just call it what it is, filler being put in. Fights that didn't matter, locations that were useless, characters who did nothing but emote and cry and throw temper tantrums. Pretty much the plague that hurts all modern RPGs.
Then Xenoblade X took that even further and made the sidequests even more unbearable, th characters even more emote-ish, and continued the theme of "offline MMO" combat. You know why people use that phrase? because the combat has no depth or structure to it. You're basically fighting on a single plane. Not once do you really use advanced tactics or aerial maneuvers. It's no Gundam or Mechwarrior, that's for sure. You can just tell that the gameplay is streamlined to get you to the next plot relevant cutscene.
>>338182332
I never claimed to support PC exclusivity either.
>>338181548
Confirmed for never playing a modern console.
Splatoon controls are really good once you get used to it, gyro aiming is precise as fuck. Bayonetta 2 plays like any other action game, what the fuck do you want to do? Play it with Keyboard + Mouse?
The share button on PS4 is nothing like a facebook button. It's a very useful screenshot/video capture tool with an option to stream the game on twitch/youtube if you want to.
Modern consoles have more than enough to offer this generation, the interface is user friendly, they double as entertainment machines with acess to major entertainment apps and most impirtantly they have good games to play on it.
Go away fanboy blinded by pc master race memes and misinformation.
>>338182471
nothing. which is why I have a PS4 for those big budget sony exclusives. I can't live off a diet of 8/10 games I need my 9's and 10's.
>>338182551
you're claiming that your shitposting is justified
kill yourself, cancer
>>338175440
It was bait genius
>>338182534
>Some are opinions, but I can back them up with facts.
And I can back Bloodborne as the better game versus Dark Souls with facts too.
Face it you thick idiot, your tastes aren't objective or the cold hard truth.
>>338182551
Fair enough.
I don't think anybody "supports exclusivity" though. Who in their right mind would?
>>338182532
Well we went to a store once and she fell in love with Mario Kart, so she said she wants that.
>This actually plays into my >>338181962 post, I want tin nendo games on everything.
>>338170204
More accessible to normies, I play on PC and everyone but reddit tier pc master race memesters know this
>>338174027
Halo 5
>>338182664
8/10 is subjective. For me, Styx is a 10/10. But hey, I don't keep up with every single game's pros and cons.
>>338182824
I see a lot of people in this thread arguing as though it's a positive
>>338170204
PC gaming is so dumb. Literally every game is a meme riddled with hackers or pure mediocrity
>>338182846
Oh. Well if she bluntly told you what she wants you should just give her exactly that.
Here's one advantage
>>338182961
We're on /v/ anon.
People here are not in their "right mind".
>>338182198
>wanting exclusives to die
You know that would make every game go the safe route and do whats trending right now and never take risks?, in an extend we already are seeing that, all those games going open world for no reason, are multiplats, which would just make the videogame market staler than ever, exclusives are the games that innovate
>>338182952
ya i bet styx would be a 10/10 for me too if all I played was average AA titles and the occasional badly optimized console port
>>338182636
>Splatoon controls are really good once you get used to it, gyro aiming is precise as fuck.
Nope, not as good as KBM. This is something I've verified from a year of owning Splatoon, and 15 years of owning a PC. The latter will always win due to being around longer and thus having time to be fully utilized, without console restrictions.
>Bayonetta 2 plays like any other action game, what the fuck do you want to do? Play it with Keyboard + Mouse?
Yes, I do. Or at least let me choose a controller of my choice. None of this "you can only play with a console controller" BS. I find that limiting.
>It's a very useful screenshot/video capture tool with an option to stream the game on twitch/youtube if you want to.
Taking screenshots of a movie doesn't sound too enticing, and I' not quite sure how that or streaming on twitch will improve the actual GAME part of the experience.
>Modern consoles have more than enough to offer this generation, the interface is user friendly,
User friendly? Gee, paying for online just to have ads thrown in your face doesn't seem friendly. Neither does paying for online, which then gets hacked. And of course we can't forget region locking and censorship, refusing to bring over games, and so on.
>>338178478
literally who to all of those besides XCOM
cheaper, more accessible
>>338170204
Good exclusives. Please get triggered.
>>338182824
>And I can back Bloodborne as the better game versus Dark Souls with facts too.
Really? Because one runs at 10 FPS and has loading screens that last longer than the areas you run through. Guess which one that is.
>>338175167
oh how profound
i bet you read bukowski
>>338183025
You're right. She didn't try the alternative, though, but it seems she's made for these kiddy games. No use getting her God of War, she'd just scream her way through that
>playing gears of war
>glower coming towards her
>she screams "WhatDOIDOWHATDOIDO!"
>tell her to shoot
>she kills him and laughs like crazy
Literally my best experience gaming with her.
>>338183158
You see, I don't see the "bad optimization" because I actually have an X360 controller. So control gimps don't affect me. And graphics are mostly better on PC, that's why even a bad console port is quite nice for me.
>>338179847
>PCucks are the biggest shitposters on /v/
Sonyggers actually still think this? Lmao.
>>338170204
Couch multiplayer
>>338170204
Good exclusives I suppose. It's not like the PC has any games that makes it worth building a $500+ machine, and any machine cheaper than that probably has what's basically the same performance as consoles.
>>338170204
-PS4 has pretty much every "next gen" multiplat
-PS4 has the highest rated exclusives
-PS4 is afforable
-PS4 will have the best games come the end of the generation
>>338183276
Not him, but what you are saying simply isn't true, at least not since the first patch and if you cant appreciate a game for something other than their technical level you should find a different hobby
>>338183264
Literally this. I know it's hard for an autistic loser like OP to comprehend, but not everyone gives a shit about games enough to warrant going through the effort of building and setting up their own shit.
Console is plug and play, and it's usually cheaper.
>>338183495
PCucks and Nintendrones are by far the worst and biggest shitposters
>>338183587
I can do that on PC too, although
>my PC is in the bedroom, so bed multiplayer
>>338183608
PC wins with the "games worth building a 500$ machine" because you have a ton of games in every niche from 1980 to now you can try. It's like being locked in a chocolate factory. In comparison, consoles have only those 5-ish years and the publisher telling them "See all these games we did? Good luck, you can't play them on this generation!"
>>338183276
>a game is better because of loading times and muh occasional fps drops nooo
How motherfucking shallow can you assholes be? Levels, enemies, weapons, bosses, aesthetics, graphics, lore, world, story, music.... naaaah, fuck that shit, the game drops down to 10 fps once or twice every once in a while, shit game. Shit fucking game, the one on my machine is much better.
