What went wrong?
>>338087665
Your tread
>>338087665
Handed multiplayer over to a completely different studio.
A faggot like you picked it up.
>not open source
>no mods
>shitty multiplayer
Rest seems ok I guess.
The only pool of radioactive waste is in Hell.
>>338087665
Denuvo
>>338087665
>>338087665
Other than the forced OpenGL bullshit, not much.
Best FPS in a long time.
Tacked on Multiplayer in a Doom game
I honestly didn't like the setting with the whole jokey UAC going to hell as part of their business. It was kinda campy in a Apeture Science kinda of way which imo doesn't fit the rip n tear of doom.
For all the faults of doom3 the entire acidently opening a portal to hell and sheer horror of it wasn't one of them.
>>338087665
>bethesda
>zenimax
>made for consoles
>movement is slow
>forced in skill tree/upgrading/rpg bullshit
>>338088460
>movement is slow
>>338088229
Speaking of Hell I think they did a great job but toxic waste didn't belong in hell boiling blood and lava does.
I think if humanity actually had conclusive proof hell existed we wouldn't have anywhere near the same candid attitude to hell as they did in the game.
>>338088647
I sure hope that isn't running speed.
>>338088647
UGH
IT'S SO. FUCKING. SLOW.
>>338088647
To be fair that's with Haste going, so not just normal run speed
>>338088229
this. demonic incursion as a unintended and unknown result >>>> "we found hell and converted it's magic torture energy into electricity, lol oops i guess demons are here now."
everything else is fucking sick though.
>>338088949
>run speed with haste
jesus fucking christ
Nothing went wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT337Xe81FQ
>>338088647
>>338089070
>Nothing went wrong
The multiplayer.
>>338089262
>that image
Fuck off back to 9gag.
>>338089478
aw did babby get triggered?
>>338088647
>that
>not slow
looks like black ops 3 multiplayer movement
>>338088647
>this is with the speed boost
The multiplayer is what went wrong. It is extremely generic, although, when Doom is basically the precursor to all FPS games, how does one go about making a multiplayer experience that doesn't feel like other FPS games?
The single player is ridiculously good. It is basically everything Doom 3 should have been, if they had simply made the original games with better graphics and some modern standards. The single player game is about damned perfect for a Doom game.
>>338088730
it looks like something from a tim burton or JP Jeunet film.. nearly cartoonesque. not the right style imo. maybe i haven't seen the right screenshots but i'm pessimistic
>>338087917
>Best FPS in a long time.
That's not saying much
>>338087665
SHAREWARE WHEN???????
>>338089262
you know everyone has his own opinions.Personally I think it is a good addition to someone's game collection,so nope,I ain't troll.Though you could tell me the reason you dislike it instead of posting normie memes
>>338090045
I just want them to release the single player on it's own at a deduced price, i'm not paying $60 for a game when i'll only play 33% of the content.
>only good monster redesign is the revenant
When the pinky showed up I nearly killed myself
>>338090505
The Baron of Hell looks cool and faithful to the original design.
Hell Knights are disappointing because they literally just retained their Doom 3 design.
The Cyberdemon is a travesty. Doom 3's Cyberdemon looked far better.
>>338088730
Hadn't humanity been using Hell as a power source for a while?
They had demons locked up in that Mars facility and regularly tapped into Hell. Makes sense that they would be casual about it after a while.
>>338090505
Cacos are fantastic in this. Retains the same vaguely goofy/scary look without being a direct D&D ripoff
>Best song made for the game isn't in the OST
>It's for a trailer
>It wasn't even released later on
>Mick says he thought it sounded like shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olxh1zocWZk
>>338092424
>no huge, shit-eating grin
>looks old and depressed
nah
>>338087665
>health drops on kills
>cinematic take downs
>in general very easy
>easy """challenges""""
>too many open arenas
>too few enemies in one spot
>>338092623
Cacos can't look "badass". He's got to look half-retarded and the little frog arms they have in NuDoom make them almost comical
>>338088730
Only game that ever did Hell good was Dante's Inferno
>>338088647
Nice Halo webm friend but when are you gonna show the fast new Doom game I've been hearing about?
>ITT: People who haven't kept up with the DOOM news since the first trailer reveal
>>338092907
this.
I don't see why people are upset.
The game is just as shit as the previous DOOM games. It perfectly captured how terrible these games are.
>>338093127
>upvoted haha
Go away.
It's the best multiplayer arena shooter on the market. That... is what went wrong.
>>338094013
/v/'s not your safe space faggot.
>>338092907
Pretty much, multiplayer is actually fast. Normal D44m speed is faster than Halo 5 sprint, was pleasantly happy they sped up the game.
No mods
>>338087665
The soundtrack
And the Cyberdemon design
>>338089008
I actually like how they gave it a sort of black humor spin, like the holograms that are advertising all this satanic stuff.
>>338094871
>The resurrected and completely charred corpse of Cyberdemon looks different
No shit, you killed it in Doom 1. Go ressurect one of your relatives and let me know how they look.
I was disappointed when the ice level immediately switched to more indoor fighting.
>>338087665
Didn't stick to it's survival-horror roots.
>>338095409
>explaining shit design with 'it's a feature!"
>>338095868
And nothing of value was lost
>>338094871
>fucking posture
>completely arbitrary description of the arm replacement in both cases
Whoever made this was reaching reeeeeally hard.
>>338095868
This is the weakest bait I've seen today.
'16 > '93 > 64 > 3 > 2
>>338096548
No bait, there is way too many CoD clones now-a-days.
We need more survival-horror FPS games like back in the golden days.
>>338096957
D44M is better than Doom 3, stop being a faggot
>>338096957
Nigger DOOM was never survival horror. The original games were purely "kill em all" FPS. Only DOOM 3 tried to be survival horror and it failed miserably at that.
DOOM is about a pissed off marine killing demons on the moons of mars with shotguns and rockets, not some pansy ass faggot scavenging flashlight batteries and holing up in hideouts to survive the day.
>>338097052
Why does it have a lower score on Metacritic then?
Hmmm?
>>338088229
I don't know. I kinda dug it as a cheeky stab at Scientology whether it was intended that way or not. With the Tier 1, 2, 3 advocates and such.
>>338087665
Nothing, it's the best FPS since Quake 3. The console version feels like an entirely different game.
>>338097183
>Metacritic
Nice meme
>>338096957
>D44M
>CoD Clone
I know this is bait but you can't just call every action FPS a CoD clone, like come on.
>>338097396
Doom 4 is basically just Advanced Warfare without a two weapon limit.
>>338097183
>Metacritic
Fucking end yourself
>>338097263
I played it onPS4, and apart from the shitty loading times and the occasional frame dip, it still felt smooth as fuck.
You can even bump the FOV up to 110, which is something I didn't expect for a console shooter.
>>338088007
This so much. If they only had single player and it was only £25 I would buy it.
>>338097584
You've never played either if you seriously think that. And no I'm not just talking about demons either.
>>338097641
Same herePS4bro. It did that same weird shit with textures that TNO did where they will occasionally load in while you're looking right at them.
Other than that it looks pretty damn good.
I don't understand the praise. Is it the same people who Trash Warrior 2013 was good?
From everything I've seen of it, it looks like merely competent gameplay in sparsely populated areas where there always seems to be a woeful lack of enemies facing you at any given time.
Denuvo
>>338090505
Wut. They're so faithful they can hardly be called redesigns.
>>338092519
Wow this is a lot better than all of the unmemorable deep bassy shit in game.
>amazing gameplay
>amazing level design
>not a single shit from modern cawadoodie shooters
>level creator
>amazing graphics
Nothing went wrong, this deserves to be the real Doom 3. It would be better if it was a PC exclusives that pushes graphic technology to new barriers but you can't have everything.
>>338096387
It was at a time where /v/ hated the new Doom, the faggot who made that image was obviously trying to fit in.
Can you rocket jump?
Honestly, just the multiplayer and modding support.
The single player is amazing and has a lot of replay value, which is good because the multiplayer is complete fucking garbage.
>>338098954
The multiplayer can only get better. With snap map I can imagine it getting really good in 3-4 weeks. Give it time. /v/ will be saying "best FPS in years" soon
>file somehow corrupted
>lost all of my shit besides the single player campaign
What the fuck? Did this happen to anyone else?
>>338087665
The single player isn't bad, but I don't see myself playing it a year from now.
They fucked up big time by not allowing modding of some sort.
The game has a lifespan which will determine the point where everyone gets sick of the same few guns, same few levels, and same few snapmap rearrangements because of its limitations. Snapmap has extended its life just a little, but not by any significant margin.
Meanwhile, I can still go get doom pwads and play what feels like a fresh new game every time I start Doom 1 or 2. Maybe this isn't ideal from a marketing standpoint, but it is ideal from a fun and memorability standpoint.
Doom 4 will just go down in history as another bland shooter. Doesn't even have the accolades of Doom 3 which re-invented the way 3D games handled rendering, lighting, graphics, and physics.
>>338098604
Yeah, but it's with the gauss instead of the launcher.
>>338087756
Your post.
>>338087665
Nothing. If Half-Life 3 would come out as a soft-reboot like this with classic gameplay, and just kill off Alyx and the escort insurgents at the opening, I will love it. I hope Gabe takes notice. You don't have to overthink things and make the greatest masterpiece ever. Sometimes simple is better.
>>338088730
Sulphuric acid air fits hell pretty good...
>What Went Wrong?
Duke Nukem is dead and we'll never get a proper rival to this which has snapmap clone + Duke physics + Even more ridiculous and zany weapons + Intentionally vulgar humor.
That's what went wrong in my life.
>>338101074
Duke could never exist in today's SJW, safe space, trigger warning culture.
>>338101373
He could, but it would take a madman to make him.
Said madmen do not work at Gearbox.
>>338088730
Probably because I don't know if it's ever explicitly Hell as in Abrahamic mythology Hell. Like everything there is obviously tied close to what we think of as demons and hellish figures, but there doesn't seem to be anything that ties human souls going there, or even the existence of God. Basically they just seem like really themed ayyliums.
QUESTION
For anyone whose played it, is it genuinely scary, cheesy scary, or not scary at all?
>>338102861
>Doom
>Scary
>>338102861
Not unless you get spooked by the enemy designs, but otherwise it's the least scary incarnation of them all.
>>338102941
doom 3 was scary, but that was most likely because I was 12.
>13 enemies max at once
>monster pit fights, corridor, monster pit, corridor, repeat
>monsters trawl around too concerned with their animations
>snapLOLmap
>multiplayer proved to be shit
>melee and interact with button/crates break control
>half-life-esque cutscenes where you can't do shit
>demons look like shit
i could go on
>>338097951
>i've seen
just epic
>>338087665
That's a bad ass cover though.
if this came out in 2004 instead of doom 3 it'd be a fucking legendary game put on the highest pedestal
So whats next?
Half Life Reboot?
Marathon Reboot?
Duke Nukem Reboot?
>>338103639
>Marathon Reboot?
Yes fucking please
>>338103604
If anything besides Doom 3 came out, it'd be better than Doom 3.
>>338103639
Marathon got teased at the end of H3 legendary but god knows where that went. Duke Nukem got Forever and that was absolute garbo. Half-Life got Black Mesa like a year or two back even if it was unofficial.
>>338103774
Duke Nukem doesn't count because it was in the works for years and gearbox just fucked it
Black Mesa doesn't count because its a fan made remake, not a reboot
When I say reboot I mean real reaboot, like go back to the series roots of what made them good, not just a shitty remake or modernized sequel
>>338094871
Give them a break.The Doomguy killed the original cyberdemons to extinction. That's all Hell had to work with.
>>338103639
3 is more probable than a reboot. So never.
Possible
Never. Especially not in this climate of political correctness.
>>338103959
Forever was a reboot for all intents and purposes. It followed the standard reboot success which was hollowing out the gameplay and trying to make bank on name recognition and "memes" in this case alone.
Not much. 9/10 honestly.
>Sound is bad. Soundtrack is bad, sounds will be coming from behind me even though the monster is like 2 rooms ahead.
>Multiplayer map design isn't conducive toost game modes. Funnel the two teams at each other or add free for all. I'm tired of spending an entire demon possession just running around
Still the best game I've purchased this month, and it's up there on the year.
>>338103318
Yeah okay boi, tell me you've never made a judgement on anything in your entire life without having purchased it.
Not going to spend £25+ on mediocrity just to verify that, it is in fact mediocre and wasn't worth buying.
The rocket launcher feels like the weakest weapon in the game
>>338104505
fukin' u wot
The remote detonation and shrapnel upgrade gives it the most kick and shreds through imps/razers like candy if you need to clear 3/4 of them out of the way.
>>338104287
Alright, just go around like you're the authority on the game when you only have secondhand knowledge of it. It's what the rest of vee does anyway.
>>338092810
>>338104505
it really is, the gauss cannon does everything better
>>338094871
but he doesn't have a weakpoint, you didn't actually play the game, did you anon?
I realize the pic is super old, but the fact that you haven't deleted or at least edited it yet shows your lack of knowledge about that which you post.
Deeply shameful, anon. I had such high apprechiation for the posters on this gentlemen's board. But no longer.
what's the best (free) way to play the original DOOM?
>>338087665
The marketing.
The game was actually pretty good, reminded me that video games can still be fun.
how do torrent doom
>>338105321
Pirate the GoG version from kat.cr
>>338104838
But anon, that's the same person.
>>338105545
>GoG version
>>338087665
the multiplayer
>>338105321
It's literally $6. I'll fucking buy it for you.
>>338087665
Any of you fags want to help a nigga out? I grabbed the chainsaw, then switched weapons, and it seems that the chainsaw has disappeared from my inventory.
>>338105321
Get Doom.wad somehow
And then install Chocolate Doom.
Searching for "Doom.wad" will give you a lot of sites that just have Doom.wad available.
>>338107009
It's bound to a button, not in your inventory. What platform are you playing it on?
>tfw you're actually having fun with the multi
Probably gonna play quite a bit over the next couple weeks because I know it'll be a ghost town this time next month. Then back to mop up the collection in the SP.
>>338107114
PS4. Consolecuck.
>>338087793
desu, this, senpai
>>338088647
>showing slow ass montage with halo weapon
>imply it isn't slow
>>338107212
Square
>>338107212
Square
>>338107268
>>338107276
Thank you, Kratos.
>>338097824
I literally just said this to a friend.
If I could buy a cut down version with just the singleplayer, I'd consider it.
I still don't want to give Bethesda any money though. Not after what they did to Prey.
is there actually a torrent up for this game yet?
>>338088460
>not relevant
>not relevant
>who gives a shit
>not true
>not required or forced in even the slightest way
Keep trying anon.
>Faggots are still pretending this game is bad.
>>338087665
My only complaint is the campaign should have been longer.
>>338095409
>looks the same in doom 1
>charred bodies are made of stone
>>338107257
>rocket launcher
>halo weapon
kill yourself
>>338107404
It's still missing the crack
>>338107535
Fuck off marketer
>>338089828
>a multiplayer experience that doesn't feel like other FPS games
isn't that supposed to be a good thing?
>>338087665
You mean what went right?
>>338107617
>anti-shilling this hard
Who hurt you, anon? Was it your father?
>>338107617
Fuck multiplayer. It's refreshing that a game developer was actually willing to prioritize the single-player campaign in 2016. Seems like most campaigns are a tacked-on afterthought these days.
>>338092810
I can't breathe
>>338087665
>all YouTube reviewers including TotalBiscuit and LGR praised it
Nothing
>>338105321
zanandrom
>>338087834
>>338098104
>Fall in lava
>Die
>DoomGuy throws up a Thumbs Up ala Terminator 2
New Doom is a good game.
>>338108324
sick reference bro
>>338104287
>Not going to spend £25+ on mediocrity just to verify that, it is in fact mediocre and wasn't worth buying.
>what are refunds
>>338087665
>Multiplayer is Cod
>Movement slower than original
>Weapon upgrading
>Boring finishers straight out of that pile of shit Brutal Doom
>Hamfisted story nobody cares about
>Arenas with waves of enemies
>>338107591
Might as well be, the weapon designs are such shit in Doom 4. Just huge fucking boxes, even the vacuum cleaner rocket launcher in Doom is better.
>>338108562
>hamfisted story
The game goes out of its way to show that not even Doomguy cares about the story and just wants to get on with fucking up demons.
>>338108576
??
have you even seen any of them? even the pistol is sick
>>338088780 >>338088834 >>338088949 >>338089185 >>338089621 >>338089776 >>338092890 >>338107257
you move around fast as fuck in the game, are you faggots serious?
>>338108713
If you're 12 and think overdesigned squares are sick then yeah
>>338108506
>what are refunds
Does steam refund you with real money or with digital monopoly money?
>>338108737
kys shill
>>338107916
This. Halo 5 was pathetic.
So some people complain the game is too slow, Even with the speed boost, But has anyone dropped a speed comparison yet to the older doom? i'll bet it isnt that different.
>>338097263
Console controls pretty well for what it is, the aim-assist is subtle
Overwatch on console was one of the most disgusting things I've ever played because of how egregious the aim-assist was, to the point where it was detrimental on some characters
>>338088647
>All this jumping
Cool as it looks this looks more like a Serious Sam game than a doom game.
>>338108660
>lmao he only wants to kill, so hardcore xD
>>338109352
That's what the fucking first game was, you nigger. You can't have it both ways.
>82 on Metacritic
>92% Approval rating on Steam
>Literally everyone is happy with it
>Except /v/ of course.
I'm sorry but you guys got BTFO on this one, D44m simply turned out to be a good game. You can't pull a Fallout 4 with this one because of "MUH BETHESDA!" because this simply isn't Fallout 4. Most people are already hailing this as the revival of Doom.
>Doom is a good game.
>>338108713
The pistol is a gay little glowing pew pew laser gun
>>338109408
Nice Ad Populum faggot
kys
>>338109213
Go play Doom 1-2 yourself, it's a little bit faster. Not too much, though. I think people think it's faster than it actually is because the levels are generally much more compact and filled with enemies, while Doom 4 is more open and the enemy count's lower.
>>338109408
whoa hol up there kiddo
I like the game a lot, but "the revival of Doom"? Calm down there. It's a good spinoff title, but it's not like an actual proper sequel kinda' deal.
>>338109408
Most of the criticism in reviews I've seen is about the multiplayer. Campaign seems to be praised by most.
>>338109327
>doom looks like a serious sam game
just shut this board
>>338102861
Genuinely scary. The demons shit on their pants when doomguy finds them.
Trying to badly remake a perfect game.
Plain and goddamn simple.
Nightmare could be much better, but it and Ultra-Nightmare are also the only actually challenging difficulties. The monsters' increased aggression is good. Every hit dealing 50+ damage is not.
The game's basic design prevents things like Doom 1's resurrection on Nightmare because you're locked in with the monsters. Really, the whole closed arena thing is inferior to Doom 1-2's approach to map design.
>>338109790
But anon, you're not locked in with the monsters.They're locked in with you.
>>338087917
TNO was better.
>>338101710
I thought this as well. It's just another dimension.
>>338109549
>h-he doesnt conform t-to my hivemind o-opinion?
>s-S-SHILL! GET OUT SHILL
The Face of the Defeated.
>>338109596
I don't think anyone has the means to say that, but you have to admit that it is a good game to some degree and it certainly brought a resurgence of life back into the Doom franchise.
>>338109605
I'd say the Multiplayer should be judged separately from the Single player, but I haven't seen enough Multiplayer to leave judgement on that. What I do know, is that the multiplayer BETA (Emphasis on Beta) got really bad reviews while the campaign got very high approval.
>>338108562
>Hamfisted story nobody cares about
Why would you care about story in a DOOM game anyways?
>>338110228
I'll admit this game is going to do a lot more for the franchise than Doom 3 did.
>>338110261
I really disagree with Carmack's "story in porn" quote, but I think it does apply to some games, and Doom is one of those for sure.
>>338108660
So they realized that story in a Doom game is a bad idea, yet included it anyway and then just joked about themselves as if self-awareness makes it instantly ok? That's some webcomic level shit.
>>338109687
>perfect game
>auto aiming
>maps can't have rooms on top of rooms
>>338110435
The store is as barebones as it comes. The only thing that got any actual attention is trying to link all the games together in a sense, and that doesn't seem like them pushing story where they shouldn't, it seems like they genuinely care about the franchise and not stepping on the toes of the other games.
Almost all the "story" is just the datalogs and most of that is just tongue-in-cheek fluff on the monsters and making call backs to Doom I and II rather than them just dumping text on the player in a lazy way to explain the story.
>>338110497
At least point out something that actually matters like the low difficulty, plenty of mediocre and even shitty levels and poor weapon balance in Doom 2. Not elements of the game that are non-issues because of its overall design.
Multiplayer is mediocre but can be fun at times
Snapmap has lots of potential, Although the 4 player limit and 2 weapon limit is bad
Singleplayer is very fun, But i wish the map design was more like the original doom games
>>338110789
>more like the original doom games
Will I enjoy Doom 4 if I never played the original? My only experience with the franchise is fucking around with Doom 3 at a friend's house.
>>338111806
Doom 3 is hot garbage, so it's really not a hard act to beat. This is nothing like that Doom though.
I would have thought it would be cool if the story went the way of the books, with the demons being artificial constructs of some artichoke-headed aliens who thought we were all middle ages peasants.
I want Flynn Taggart back, dammit.
>>338094871
isn't the cyber demon for doom 2016 supposed to be their attempts an collecting all of the dead pieces together and try to bring it back?
>>338110720
>Doom 2
>Low difficulty when it's the hardest Doom game yet outside TNT and Plutonia
inb4 the SSG is overpowered despite being a rare weapon like the BFG and the shotgun still has utility as the most reliable long range weapon
>>338108930
>i will never buy another game after i return a game on steam!
Do higher difficulties affect enemy ai aggressiveness at all?
>>338088647
That's not the max fov
>>338112859
ha yes, ultra nightmare is death, nightmare is tougher, anything below that is just the norm.
>>338111806
Play the originals first
>>338100420
My axe
>>338111806
people complain doom4 locks you into rooms during waves of demons but the rooms are big and open enough to where you still have a lot space and theres plenty of secret paths that reward you with upgrades.
>>338110228
I think this is the modern sequel the game deserves and can be finally laid to rest. People will look back and remember "At least we can finally forget Doom 3"
>>338110435
The story is the bare minimum they could give the game to help drive the gameplay progression. If it had literally no story, it would be worse off.
>>338112496
BFG sucks up a shit ton of ammo which is rare, SSG uses one of the most common ammo types in the damn game and once you get it, you won't really use anything else once you get it outside of some specific scenarios. The difficulty's not much of an achievement either since being the hardest outside of TNT/Plutonia makes it compete with Doom 1 and 64 which are both really easy games.
