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95% of the general population like this game, and many of which think it is one of the greatest games ever made.

What went this right?
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Lotsa weido fanboys with hard-ons for Gerralt. Then the rest us of watching it all from afar.
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Slavish magic, cant explain shit.
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It's a really good game.

Like, it just werks.
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It's really immersive, the most immersive game I've played. The storytelling and the characters are all too good.
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cd project has slav magic (which means most of the money is spent of development and marketing money is spent properly) and also they kinda filled the void left by bioware
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>Recent reviews

I love how so many games have shit launches that Steam had to separate reviews for when they actually fix/finish the game
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>>338065696
Good writing, decent mechanics and very few flaws none of which detracted from the story or writing.

The gameplay in W3 is very pedestrian but the writing and characters are just that good.
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>>338065978
>>338065696
>>338066051

It really is a well crafted game. The only thing I hate is how Geralt controls and the boring combat system. Still a solid 8 or 9 depending on how good the DLC is for me.
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Bear in mind that 99% of the industry also called Skyrim the greatest game ever made in 2011.

The grand, grand majority of people in the world are anti-critical casuals with no standards. Hell, I even saw someone say that he thought this game was amazing, but it was TOO HARD for him ON EASY MODE, so he'd be playing it for years.

Most people don't have ideas or opinions, they just drool onto their keyboard or controller for an hour and if they see a pretty picture, it's the best game they've ever experienced.

In reality, TW3 was a pretty mediocre RPG with not very well-designed systems that were actively insulting or not fun to use, it had shallow combat that was never a challenge, and a story that made no sense and went nowhere. At BEST the game had nice visuals, but they were at the expense of everything else in the game.
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>>338065696

Passion. Watch any interview, they loved making this game and it shows.
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>>338066252
Id second this, its amazing how much giving a shit actually improves what people work on and these guys seem pretty proud.
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>>338065696
It's pretty alright. I didn't really like it's overall story as much as TW1 or 2, though, but it's not a bad game. Like a decent 7/10 for me. The way the open world shit is set up, though, makes it feel like something that would win GOTY awards, if that make sense. Kind of like Skyrim, where the game itself shouldn't have won GOTY, but it felt like a game that would even though it's pretty shit?
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My face when I wouldn't have even known of the Witcher franchise if it weren't for /v/. All those downgrade screens of 3 looks sooo nice, I just have to go play 1 and 2 before 3 released. Now its one of my favorite franchises and book series.

Thanks /v/ for the wonderful memories!
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It just appeals to the lowest common denominator. Very simple in every aspect. Just like Skyrim, another game "95% of the general population like, and many of them think it is one of the greatest games ever made" Wticher 3 even has better graphics and a LOT more cinematics for the extra appeal.

Just don't worry about it, play actual games instead of pleb trash like this.
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>>338066519
>Witcher 3 cinematics

Oh lawd
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>>338066519

>other people like it so I can't

Why is 90% of this board in highschool?
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Speaking of the writing, I have a question about Dudu.


Why does he take Whoreson Jr.'s form when dopplers take the personalities of the people they mimic? He wanted to hurt sorceresses after being Menge for a few hours, so he decides to take the form of a man who kills prostitutes and bathes in their blood? A man who is also wanted dead by the other crime bosses in the city. Why were Dudu and Geralt okay with that?
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>>338066667
Who said that? Are you retarded?
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>>338066519

Lol. What a loser.
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>>338065696
I was pretty hyped for this game, bought it on release. I made it past the first village you start in and completely lost interest, haven't put more than 5 hours into it or so.

What am I missing? It was just boring.
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>>338065696

I genuinely had a lot of fun with the game, it had been awhile since I enjoyed a game that much that I was sad when I was done with everything.
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>>338066724
Nobody really knew Jr. was dead, so by taking the place of a dead man he was more or less guaranteed a hiding spot.

That said, with all that other shit you mentioned, I'm pretty sure Dudu just isn't a clever person. This is somebody who was hiding as a guard, which I'm pretty sure they probably also test with silver goblets and shit.
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>>338066724
Eh, I suppose they can still control the urges, they just feel it. And it's not like he had to be in the guise of Whoreson Jr. all the time.
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>>338065696
>300 some hours on the witcher
>200 some hours on the witcher 2
>1.3 hours on the witcher 3 + a refund

I'm pretty sure the only people who enjoy it are people who never experienced the story telling and grandeur of the first two.
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>>338066812
I was the same way. Whiterun just is boring shit. The Velen part of the game is the best, but they blow their load too early with it, making everything else just okay afterwards.
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Nah, that game is garbage and nobody really likes it, just Polish shills trying to drown out the truth since their government actually employs people to market the video games and films that are made there.
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>>338067032
I enjoy it and I also have played the first two games.
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>>338065696
Because it's all around masterfully crafted game.

Good graphics, excellent OST and sound design, immense attention to detail, solid enough gameplay, Gwent, great writing and characters, fair pricing and DLC/expansion policy and constant support for the game.
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>>338066152
Didn't they add an alternative control scheme for him? Or it didn't help?
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>>338065696
Developers weren't lazy, that's what happened.
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I was just playing this a minute ago and I was wondering, is it normal for the MC to get hit stunned to the point where he sheaths his sword and starts using his fists?
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>>338067032
>100 hours on the witcher
>200 hours on the witcher 2
>almost 500 hours on the witcher 3 and currently waiting for the DLC and it's literally MILES better than the previous ones in just about every way possible
Did your gtx 260 not run the game well? I promise you the upgrade is worth it
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>>338067381
Shit like this happened a lot in my playthrough. I also had a few fights were I'd run into the fight to start it, but Geralt would starting fighting before pulling out his sword.

There were also a few times where the game wouldn't register I was in combat, so I'd be getting fucked by guys, and for some reason Geralt wouldn't attack.

On the reverse side, the same thing happened to a few of the bosses, too, including one of the Wild Hunt guys near the end where he just stood still the entire fight.
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>>338065696
I want to play this but don't feel like playing the other 2, how bad of a time will i have?
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>>338066724
It's kind of a translation/wording problem. It's more of a joke than an actual urge to slit sorceresses' throats
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Story is meant to be good but I won't buy this if the combat is shit.

Shoutout to the guy on youtube that got death threats for showing how shit the combat is, saved me money.
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>>338066510

Welcome to right way of using /v/ my friend. Don't regret anything and have fun.
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Same reason people consider Game of Thrones the best show ever or Uncharted 4 the greatest action game ever.
It's basically a soap opera-tier TV show disguised as a RPG/video game. That's why all their effort went on stuff like graphics, voice acting and dialogue, while actual gameplay and RPG mechanics are shittier and more primitive than even some RPGs from 25-30 years ago.
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I just love the game. The haters don't hate it as much as they claim, just fishing for replies which is fine and funny. The combat is the weakest part by far, but I always loved story driven games, so I don't mind much. I can see how a lot of people who prefer gameplay over narrative would dislike it, but I can't imagine them hating it as much as they want you to believe.
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>>338067650
>but don't feel like playing the other 2

Read the character journal every time you meet an important character. It sums up nicely their important story arcs across the trilogy.
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>>338067591
Doesn't this game have like 30 patches? This shit shouldn't be going on at this point.
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>>338067887
Combat's good, it's like Souls but without having to backtrack and with more variety.
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>>338067381
>>338067591

You guys realise you can manually sheath/unsheath at any time right?
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>hardest difficulty in the witcher 1 forced you to read and learn everything and deploy levels of skill that varied greatly between quests and tasks

>hardest difficulty in the witcher 2 forced you to cheese enemies with learned tactics and use your powers to avoid being one shot by increasingly tense situations

>hardest difficulty in the witcher 3 forced you to point and click on the enemy


io have no clue as to why people enjoyed this watered down casualized pos of a game. the series used to be about learning the lore and environment and making all the knowledge work with you to defeat your enemy. guess that was too hard for their 13 year old target market to do though.
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>>338068217
>Combat's good, it's like Souls
So it's not good. Got it.
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>>338067887
Yeah, shoutout to that very same guy who also said Fallout 4 and far cry primal are excellent games.
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>>338068217
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkFqn1TMeH4
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>>338065696
They got the Skyrim audience they were after.
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/v/ is one of the only place who just hate anything the normal gamers like

don't even try showing them that, they'll trie to justify why it has been so popular.
REMINDER :
THE WITCHER 3 WAS GAME OF THE YEAR 2015
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>>338068149

In contrast to the majority of games that get 1 or 2 post launch patches and resort to the modding community for bug fixing and polish...
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>>338065696
>What went this right?
They made a VIDEO game and not a pixelshit indie platformer/walking simulator
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>>338067887
>Shoutout to the guy on youtube that got death threats for showing how shit the combat is, saved me money.
Reminds me of butthurt when Shadow of Mordor came out and people were praising how fun and cool the combat was, and that streamer made a video where he went to the hardest area of the game, aggro the enemies and turned off his monitor and just spammed the dodge button, and when he turned his monitor again later he was still alive with full HP.
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>>338068343
Wither 1 is literally a hardcore ARPG, TW2 and TW3 were made for the call of duty audience
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>>338068297
Yes. The first situation shouldn't be happening, though. If I'm approaching some guys, his sword should already be out and he shouldn't have his first attack go with his fists. I've also had times where I'd manually unsheath, and he'd put the fucking thing away right as I'm about to fight or a few seconds later when I just wanted the sword out at all times. They should have either made the sheathing fully automatic and had it work, or fully manual, not some mixmatch shit.

The second situation, my sword was out. He wouldn't swing. Literally no attacking.
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are the dlc any good?
finished the game on release, tried playing it again but didnt find motivation for ng+
i might try playing the dlc's before tww comes out if they are any good
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>>338068534
>They made a VIDEO game and not a pixelshit indie platformer/walking simulator
>actual GAMEplay is complete dogshit
nice meme, even Fez had better game mechanics
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>>338066510
I'd wager a third of /v/ doesn't even play video games, they just come here to try and poison things.
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>>338068297
That's what I did when he didn't auto sheath, but he said "fuck this sword business" and started using fists, I died anon, I fucking died because the MC thought he knew better than I.
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>>338068415
stop posting this autists videos. he has garbage taste.
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Combat is pretty bad
Some of the writing is abysmal and a lot of the voice acting is atrocious
The world and characters are beautiful
I'm not sure why I am collecting all this shit. How they handled the alchemy was just awful.

Everything else is pretty good. 7/10
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>>338066510
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>>338068803

What don't you like about the alchemy?
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The Witcher 3 and games like it don't have a story. They have an excuse. It's an excuse for a male power fantasy that pretends to be a story. And depending on how much of a grip male power fantasies have on you, you'll sooner or later just find that you're asking yourself 'why am I doing this?' Why are you? You have no real motivation.
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>>338068343
>>338068629

At least the Witcher 2 kept aspects of the first game. It still felt true to the original game. It was their attempt to modernize it while keeping the original integrity somewhat intact.

The Witcher 3 on the other hand was just a joke to the original fans and a way to pander to a new rising market.
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>>338068995
Witcher 3 tried to ride on the Skyrim memetrain
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>>338065696
Great world, great characters, great acting, really nice swords and armors without having to over-design them, functional combat system with more depth than /v/ gives it credit for.

CDPR even managed to do the Bioware animations without them ever seeming really repetitive or poorly animated. Facial animations were great, in addition, and got across subtle emotions really well.

Only thing I can knock against it is the controls could be SLIGHTLY better and the leveling system is pants-on-head retarded. Other than that, great game.
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For me it's a combination of the atmosphere (great graphics and music), exploration and decent character focused stories for about half of the game. About half of the game is filler quality and the combat is bad but still that's way more than you can ask for in most other games.
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>>338069074
Well, it worked. When your options are to pander to a few fucks who like your games or all of the fucks who could like your games, from a business standpoint the answer is obvious.
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>>338068406
>but without having to backtrack and with more variety.

>>338068415
What the fuck am I watching, is this satire? He's literally yelling out what's completely normal in that kind of combat system. Does he have a similar video about the Arkham games? 2 minutes in, does he just keep repeating himself and making himself look bad or is there more to this?
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>>338068481
Reminder: Dragon Age Inquisition was GOTY 2014
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It's the first open-world game to actually have a believable world. It's not like Skyrim where a major city consists of 4 houses and a keep.
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>>338069164
Too bad you make a terrible game as a result and lost the people who had been with you since the very release of the first game.
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>>338069354
Fuck it, man, when you have a lot of money, who cares about anything.
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>>338069354
>and lost the people who had been with you since the very release of the first game
Who?
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I decided to wait to play Witcher 3 until season pass content was out since I needed to buy some computer upgrades in the meantime to make it not play like shit (I had to upgrade out of my old AMD cpu, for example...) So, a year late but I finally got into W3 with Blood & Wine is coming shortly and I'm enjoying it quite a bit. Dropped a few Nexus mods for grafix improvements, turned off the Points of Interest per general suggestion, and dropping into it. The only complaint is the weird midget Ciri in the tutorial jesus christ I hate it when devs just shrink down an adult NPC model and call it a child.

I figure 99% of the complaints were butthurt weeaboo FROMsoft drones mad that their console-only bloodyborne hack 'n slash game got completely blown out of the water when it tried to compete against a PC game and lost.
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>>338069448
clearly not you
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>>338069448

autists
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It took you for a ride and didn't let you go.
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>>338069563
No but tell me, who are these people who were with the series "from the start" and then played a few hours of W3 before dropping it.

>>338069632
this to be quite honest(tbqh) families
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>>338065696
>yfw Novigrad
/v/ was wrong once again about this game(unless all the Witcher haters were Bloodborne jelly fags)
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>>338069661
me, I bought TW on release, I bought TWEE boxed, I bought TWEE on steam, I bought TW2, I pirated TW3, dropped it at Skellige Islands.
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>>338069681
>stepping into novigrad
>this starts playing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue-ER61uE_o
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>>338069980
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>>338069980
the dark souls of our generation
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>>338065696
I'm still waiting for the last DLC to hit later this month to finally play TW3. Hope it's good.
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>>338069994
forgot pic
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>>338069862
Alright no harm done, unfortunate you couldn't get into it.

>>338069994
I knew it was going to be this track before I opened link.
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>>338065696
The battle system prevents it from being the best game ever. Also fast travel is a really shitty gimmick in games there should be a means of transportation. I will give you the best looking females done by Western artists but that's not saying much
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>>338069994
>start a fight
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiSeoX_4nzU
>jizz
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>>338069980
>not maintaining quen at all times
>no relict oil
>no igni
>no dimeritium bombs
>darksoulscombat.gif

what a colossal faggot
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>>338070213
>there should be a means of transportation
You mean like riding the horse?
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>>338070129
desu so you're ready, monster hunts are literally all the same, 99.99% of the items dropped by enemies are useless, the hardest difficulty, March of the Dead or whatever is really fucking easy past white orchard, and the Witcher gear is all you'll ever need, for some you'll need to beat several ennemies but they are really easy to kill even when you're vastly underleveled (talking 10 -15 levels here), if you can read a simple movement pattern and exploit the overpowered signs.
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>>338069681
I'm not sure what it is about the cities in this game that make it seem so much nicer than, say the Assassin's creed games.
I suppose it just seems more organic and personal, if that makes sense.
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Like Skyrim before it, it set a new standard for fantasy RPGs
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>>338065696
>>338065696

It's an example of Game Dev's sticking to their vision, a vision cultivated by 2 releases prior that honed said vision to themselves and the desireability of their fanbase.

Neglected irrelevant social influences that have no play in the electronic entertainment industries face.

And fucking followed through, they were also willing to compromise on some of the issues their fanbase had with their monopolization schemes as far as DLC was concerned.


Mass Effect was fucking fine until it started taking on a bunch of social justice tropes, and simply lazy as fuck examples of story writing and development.

Same went for Dragon Age. and the few others attempting western RPGs


Fuck me if I'm not starved for Cyberpunk 2077 information tho.
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will u be lost if you play witcher 3 without having played 1 or 2. i tried to play 1 and it was terribad
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>>338069980
>abusing a single instance of a bad hitbox
niceme.me
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>>338070337
BANANA TIGER! BANANA TIGER!
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>>338066519
recommend these actual games then
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>>338069515
Why did you mention fromsoft? Is it because you're insecure about witchers shit combat
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>>338070447
still pissed off they didn't release PC Dark Arisen at the same time as on consoles, holy fuck
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>>338065696
They could build on top of an already existing universe which was very well suited for a videogame.

There are very few games which have some resemblance to good writing because the stories is made around the game not vice versa.
They managed to capture the original material very well and while the books are not master pieces they probably have better characters and setting then most original games in existence.

Also money.
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>>338070550
>witcher 3 has shit combat
>fromsoft games don't
This is truly the funniest meme on /v/ going around in recent times.
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They did good. The game honestly feels old and seeing the same face 40 times gets annoying but the world is great
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>>338067215
At least it's more responsive right now. No going back
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>>338065696
I actually just finished it today, had a great time. The stories and characters definitely carried its just-good-enough gameplay. I liked slicing and blasting shit up, but I found myself most engaged when dialogue came around. Velen felt like the strongest area, everything with the Baron was fantastic.

The last act and ending of the game gave me goddamn whiplash with how fast it flew by. Ciri is prime daughterfu material but it feels like a lot in the rest of the game suffers for the sake of her elder blood, aen elle, white frost, so on. Just give me "Witcher 4: Geralt and Ciri Witch Around."
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>>338070464
No, but you will be more confused about who the hell certain characters are. You might want to give 2 a try, or if not, at least watch some videos like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NB_1hGDuG58
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB_bHqHzhIA
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I was entertained by Witcher 1 and 2, but they both had bullshit final bosses which completely went against the rules laid out by the game, which has put me off buying 3 for now.
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>>338070469
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>>338069104
>really nice swords and armors without having to over-design them
FROM, takes notes.
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>>338070108
now this is denial of the highest caliber
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>>338065696
>Leave the game be for a while
>Feel like picking up again but also want to take it up a notch
>Download the STLM 2.1 shaders
>Launch the game
>that light
>that Velen
>that Skellige
>mfw it looks better than than the E3 trailers

Why the fuck didn't I do this sooner
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>>338070836
Dump all of them, reddit fampai.
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Honestly I love game because it gave me a sense of adventure I haven't had since playing Ocarina of Time when I was 8 or so years old.

It has flaws sure, like most points of interests being chests filled with bullshit, sidequests being fetch quests or the stupid note and key shit, or main story relying on "do this totally unrelated task and I'll help you" or "its a secret for now, then I'll tell you" type crap.

Still though, its sense of scale, variety, and gwent was pretty amazing.

The combat isn't the greatest. I hated it in fact, on my first play through. Sword and story and I basically only used fast swings and light armor and some quen. It works and its easy.

My second play through on death march was so much better. I used a well rounded build that used fast/heavy swings, bombs (with the 6 bomb throw at once) oils, potions, and axii with igni. It is so much runner that way.

The only real problem I have with the combat now is the terrible lock on system. It works.in the most obtuse and backwards and really.needs to fixed

Overall a 8.5/10 for me, with HoS being a 9.5/10
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>>338070935
Got any pics or vids of your own game with it?
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Gwent

Really though, I've spent more time playing this shit then it took me to beat Uncharted 4
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>>338065696
They made the smart choice and developed it for consoles.

Nobody would give a flying fuck about it otherwise.
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holy fuck that pic
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>>338066510
Same here

I've never played any witcher game in my life until weeks before Witcher 3's release.

I decided I'll go ahead and play 1 and 2 before 3 and, in the span of 3 weeks, I beat them all.

It was one of the best times playing video games for me, the atmosphere, the characters, the story, I loved it all and took my time
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>>338070836
This is supposed to be a counter to these 2 comments how? What am I supposed to see here?
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>>338071302
"mediocre" combat
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>>338070464
nah you can read the character journals and find stuff out or at least that's what I'm doing
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>>338065696
The problem with AAA games is that their intention is to reach the largest possible audience possible and in trying to do so it becomes more generic and shit. The people rating these up do so because they dont know any better. Most people dont really care about video games because they havent invested a large amount of time to understand what goes into a game. It's the same as top 40 music or michael bay movies. Mindless drivel for the mindless masses who have no desire to seek a deeper experience.

Witcher series might be on the fringe of this, but 2 and 3(especially 2) use the same design principles as every dumbed down console game but now have the bonus of a "PC HARDCORE GAMER" appearance because no one with a brain plays games anymore.
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>>338071268
I'm not sure exactly what emotion you're trying to convey. The comment and reaction pic seem to be saying to different things. Unless the sight of a happy yennefer brings you to tears

But I like.it too
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It appeals to western sensibilities to a T and is an actually good game with great writing but shitty gameplay. People don't care about shitty gameplay. How is it shocking?
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>>338070627
desu witcher 3 combat is just arkham+
nothing has any weight
>opinions
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>>338071689
>Unless the sight of a happy yennefer brings you to tears
this
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>>338066471
Are you kidding. The way the worlds set up is probably one of the laziest, least immersive ways. Literally everything is marked on the fucking map and dont tell me you can turn that shit off because no quests ever give written instruction on where to go.
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>>338071073
Tbh It didn't occur to me to take any screenshots. I wasn't even expecting to find a W3 thread. Even so, plenty of videos on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiJrfUA3kdU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXJE1Q8lfL8

Sure there's a 10fps hit, but hot damn it's worth it
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>>338071784
>nothing has any weight
But that's exactly what it does. In Arkham it's very light, in W3 there's some weight to it.
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>>338066192
>Most people don't have ideas or opinions

Anon...
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>>338071475
as much as I love the game this one always gets me
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official witcher 3 review.

all non-quest related things you can find on the world are copy paste boring shit
no one will talk to you unless they are quest related and you have the quest that requires them
awful ui made for consoles and only 2 consumable slots, making alch spec a chore
no resource management, you just instantly get all your potions back for whats essentiallly free
enemys have 1, maybe 2, attack that they repeat over and over, making fights absolutely boring after an hour
level system only works to the games detriment, as youll quickly outlevel everything you have to do and it will all be easier than the game already is
coming across a SKULL WARNING SIGN monster should be exciting but it's not, because you know it fights exactly the same as all the others of its kind, only with more hp.
"cinematic" controls that ignore accuracy in favor of looking more natural
even death march is easy as fuck due to a lack of enemy attack variety and every ability you can spec into being way too strong
ciri sections are boring and unneeded and only serve to rob you of what could have been the one interesting boss fight in the game.
the final moments of the story seem rushed as fuck, from oh hi crones now we fight, to im eredin i have a secret, im dying my secret is this guy tricked us and i had no plan to deal with it, to oh actually geralt i didnt trick you
majority of loot is randomized and scales to your level. Nothing you find really excites you.
all enemies have an extremely short tether that you will cross unintentionally more often than not. At this point they ignore you and start walking back to the center of the area or hang around to get hit easily
witcher senses are only ever used when the quest requires it and is just hold right click to follow quest arrow. you cant actually track monsters or anything out in the world(and why would you need to? theyre all tethered to a small location and never move away)

6/10 game. Had potential, wasted it.
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>>338071121
You do realize Souls is held in pretty high regard in spite of having this same problem, but exponentially worse because of the dodge mechanic's limitations, right?

Not roasting Souls, just pointing that out.
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>tfw watched this studio go from an amateur developer to one of the biggest names in RPGs
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The Witcher 1 combat is boring outdated trash
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>>338067032
Played and loved the first two when they first came out
Love the third one the most except for balancing problems late game.
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School of the roach is a great mod if you haven't tried it. Alchemy is still OP as fuck, but it makes it harder to exploit which is nice
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Are the expansions any good? How many hours do they add?
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>>338072049
no
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>>338071993
I didn't mention Souls.
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>>338072049
>9 years old
>outdated
No fucking shit.
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The game has an amazing:
-World
-Characters
-Writing
-Graphics (even after the downgrade)
-Story

It just has shit
-Gameplay
Which is what everybody should actually give a shit about when playing a game.

Every mission in the game falls into one of three categories:

1. Witcher Sense to find hidden passage/Aard wall, hold down right button and loot everything until you find a red pixel to continue

2. Witcher Sense monster tracks which don't spawn unless they're one foot ahead of you, meaning you have to keep holding down Witcher Sense and slowly walking until you're thirty feet away to find blood/claw marks/a body.

3. Bandits/evil guards harass some dude, you get in the way because it's easy experience, proceed to use Bam Ham combat with a push, a shield, a stun, Igni (which does fuck all damage and is basically useless, even with the fire stream fully upgraded), and a trap that's required for ghosts, It adds a bit of complexity, but 99 percent of the time the most useful thing is to keep mashing light attack, or heavy for people with axes/shields.

Repeat each of these like sixty times for 100 hours. And even when you DO get to use conversations for quests, it's four options.
1. I'll just kill you all.
2. I'll pay you to stop.
3. Mind control that works 50 percent of the time
4. Walk away

I'm honestly surprised so many people on here praise the game when the core combat and dialogue system is so terrible. Good story/graphics should only take a game so far.
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I never finished it, got burned out by doing too much of the useless crap around the map and quit at Skellige. Gwent was a lot of fun though.

I sometimes think about replaying it before the next DLC but remembering how dull the combat is always puts me off. It got stale quickly, some variation was desperately needed somewhere but the character progression didn't feel like it was doing it.
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>>338072008
I feel you, but...
It kind of has me scared because I was also with another game company that grew from a literal nothing to a giant
Riot
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>>338072008
>yfw Cyberpunk 2077
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>>338072206
gameplay can't be outdated unless you're part of the it's the current year crowd
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I wanted to like the game but just couldn't because of the combat and main character.
Does the combat change from just being clicking later on and does the MC change and stop being an edgy teen?
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>>338071929
I think a better show of the shitty combat would be the imerlith fight where he does 1 attack pattern over and over while you whittle down his health

why the fuck are they giving bosses 1 attack pattern. what the fuck. its boring as hell and it only takes like 30 seconds to already lose interest in a witcher 3 boss fight. fucking witcher 1 bosses seemed more involving than 3's, which is a fucking ridiculous statement but its TRUE because wither 3 encounter design is the some of the most god damn lazy shit ever.

bird bosses and wyverns dont count as having more than 1 pattern because if they fly that just means free damage
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>>338071993
desu I feel like the souls responsiveness would greately help the combat, although I'm not sure it could fit in a series such as the Witcher.

Not saying Souls games are perfect, far from it in fact. Why can't the shitters enjoy both? Gothic also had bland combat, and the same goes to the various TES in different flavours. It's simply not where these rpg focus
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>>338072295
I'd hardly call the characters and writing amazing. They really fall apart in the final act
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>>338072457
It certainly can be. There wasn't good enough animation or engine tech in 2007 to be doing anything in large scale RPGs with any sort of weight to the combat, which arguably can make or break these types of games.
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should I play with mouse and keyboard or with gamepad?
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>>338071993
>souls has the same problem
nice mem
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>>338072469
>clicking
how the fuck do you accomplish anything without clicking? what do you mean? less clicking?
>edgy teen
elaborate
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What's a fun build guys?

Just started a second run, did cat school spin crit my first run.
Wasn't a fan of the cat armor which is thr main reason I wana reroll.

Bear armor is cool as fuck but I don't really like heavy attacking.
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>>338072295
>Wow, I've been reading this book for the past 3 hours by repetitively moving my eyes left to right across each page. That's all you fucking do.. this is so boring!
>Oh, I was supposed to play the book's story out in my head WHILE reading the pages? How was I supposed to know

How about you focus on the story and treat gameplay as a secondary notion? Otherwise why even buy a witcher game in the first place?
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>>338072581
Gothic's combat had the benefit of your character noticeably becoming better in ways more than just stats which gave a real sense of progression after the game beats your ass early on

TBQHIMQHO Witcher 3 feels like they wanted to make a Gothic game but got confused on what Gothic was and why it worked and made Skyrim instead.
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>>338073082
holy fuck this post
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>>338073021
Signs were really fun until they got nerfed. Maybe you can find or make a mod so you can restore them to what they were.

I never got changing optional builds in singleplayer games in favor of balance over fun.
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>>338073225
>describe what literally every game does
>gets angry when someone points it out
>"holy fuck dude wtf+??"
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>>338065696
Not hard to get things wrong when you have competition like Bethesa and Ubisoft.
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>>338065868
I'm surprised not one person called you a cuck, you cuck.
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>>338073119
Witcher games always looked to me like they were based on Gothic. I have no idea why,but these games feel so similiar,that comfy feel when I play them.
Even tho they have almost nothing in common except both being 3rd person rpg's loved by slavs
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>>338073082
>How about you focus on the story and treat gameplay as a secondary notion?

Wow.. Tell that to the marketers and shilly types that gloss over the bad combat so that people can make an informed decision as whether to purchased the game or not.

Also gameplay should never be secondary in a GAME.
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>>338073501
It's the living world and immersion that makes them most alike the way I see it.
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>>338072854
then why does TW have better combat and gameplay than TW3 ?
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>>338070447
Christ is that a real review
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>>338065696
Passion to create something great.
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>>338066192
Skyrim WAS a great game though. In some ways it still is.

It's about standards. Skyrim set the bar, so when TW3 leaped over it people were amazed.
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>>338068919
I had a big post written up but I had to restart my phone because I was bannud.

Anyway key points

1)not being able to make more than three of a potion sucks
2)alcohol auto filling them is okay but would prefer it using ingredients because
3)it using alcohol removes excitement/pleasure from collecting ingredients which is a good portion of the game (or was)

It just feels a little.. blasé. Would orefer a combo of the two systems. Multiple ingredients filling one slot and auto filling empty potions with ingredients via a button maybe.
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>>338065696
Bought it, combat makes me sick. Want my money back
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>>338070447
>everything about this including the praise
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Ok, /v/, explain this shit to me

>play Gothic 2
>you lost all your powers in an accident
>expectedly city guard kicks you ass

ok

>play W3
>you are a famous macho demon slayer
>first citys guard kicks you ass like its nothing

???????????????
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>>338074227
But he's right. I loved playing through Dragons Dogma but you've gotta admit that it doesn't do anything better than any other game. It's completely mediocre all the way through, with some charm thrown in. The DLC's the best part of the game, and it doesn't involve open world monster hunting at all.
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>>338072008
>tfw you bought pirate games from them at national stadium back then
This is the strangest feeling.
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How do people play this game without playing the first two? I mean, it it isn't like you're starting a new character every game, the story is linear with recurring characters. It's like starting the Mass Effect franchise at Mass Effect 3.

Why is it suddenly acceptable to start a trilogy at the last installment?
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>>338074359
But you can have more then 3 potions with right perks.
But I agree with the rest of the points, I always end up with hundreds of herbs and all potions already created and upgraded
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>>338074374
>same post every thread
Is this why /v/ is nipping at /b/'s heel?
You decide
http://www.strawpoll.me/10245943
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95% of the general population don't care about bad controls if it has good graphics
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>>338074359
Alchemy was garbage. Pretty much PRESS X TO FILL POTIONS.

Why they thought it was a good idea to fill a world with these ingredients that youll only use once is beyond me. and its fucking ONE alcohol for all your potions. Ridiculous. I guess resource management is too "outdated" for modern gamers.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xoz5wqXfpwI
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>>338065978
>Like, it just werks.
But it doesn't just werk.
>>338065696
>What went this right?
Not everything that's for sure. It's the third instalment in a franchise with three instalments for starters. And the previous two instalments most certainly did not have everything go right.

I've wanted to try Witcher 3 for some time now, but it's such a fucking drag to get through 1 and 2. And the first game is also like super bugged and has terrible performance.
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Wish you could filter reviews based on number of hours played.
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>>338070480
FUCK I CAN'T UNHEAR IT
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BEST TRACK COMING THROUGH

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2QX6Lm4iXE
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>>338074573
Nah, it's just the way it reads, I haven't even played DD. That review just screams bullshit, at least I hope so, or else someone may have been paid for that garbage
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>>338065696
1 > 3 > Shit > 2

if you disagree, you're wrong
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>>338071475
I like this webm the most, on any difficulty higher than medium you wouldn't be able to pull this of.
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>>338065696
It's great value for money. If you do everything it's easily 100 hours, or more, without dlc.
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>>338071475
>posting something that was fixed 5+ patches and an expansion ago as an example
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>>338074994
They are clearly "r" and not "n". Barara Taiga
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>>338070480
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>>338070108
You like eating shit then?
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>>338075772
Not my fault you think objectively gourmet food is literal shit

you need to get your tastebuds fixed
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>>338075772
Is it shit because you say so?
You know words don't turn videogames into human wastes?
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>>338076030
>>338075961

You know what the funny thing is? All the annoying "witcher 3 combat is shit" people would go away if you stopped denying that it actually is a steaming pile of shit. These levels of CDPR dick-sucking just makes people less receptive to admit the rest of the game is genuinely good
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The Witcher 3 is so ass though.

Our standard for quality has fallen so far.
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>>338076429
you can dislike the combat all you want, but that doesn't mean it's shit
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>>338076429
I'll bite, what is so bad about the combat?
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I kinda got bored with Witcher 1 an hour in. Is it worth suffering through (or maybe it gets better) to get to 2 and 3?
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>>338065950
*Slavic
t. triggered Russian
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>>338076643
Just play it, and after you get to 2, you'll be begging to have 1 back.
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>>338067381
I recall that happening if you use the wrong sword but keep mashing attack. Using the wrong sword makes the game switch to the other sword for you (lol), but if you keep mashing then the attack command will override it, even though you're swordless now.
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>>338067032
weak bait
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>>338076456
Maybe people's standard of being an asshole has expanded. Like you.
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>>338070447
Why did you screencap this if it's true though? Apart from the fact that it was released before W3 of course.

It was a Fallout 4 level of heartbreak for me after realizing what this game actually was
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>>338071847
Am I kidding how? For the kind of games that win GOTY awards, the Witcher 3 feels like the kind of game that would win those awards.

It's not hard to pick out what games do and it's not a matter of whether or not the games are good by /v/ standards. There are just some games that feel like they're going to win GOTY awards even if they're shitty.
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>>338076643
1 is the best game overall. Gets better after the swamp
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The thing is is that most RPGs don't exactly have well written stories. Very often, other genres will do a better job. I think a big part of the problem is that the focus is never on the story, it's about the Become Stronger trope and that doesn't focus on character-related stories, it's all about a struggle versus the environment. At the end of the day, it doesn't have much more of a story than, say, Ark: Survival Evolved.

That's going to make some people angry. Some stupid people. Yes, I know The Witcher 3 has more WORDS, but that doesn't necessarily mean more STORY. It's a false correlation. It's like how people hold up Planescape: Torment as a good RPG. I played that and it's a bunch of poorly realised pseudointellectual wank. It lacked all of the cornerstones of what makes a good story. There was no real motivation or cause, there was no drive, and the world just felt dead and depressing. Nihilist. Pseudointellectual wank, basically. Like I said.

Even Fallout (the original) was a better story than that. I feel that the later Mask of the Betrayer did a better job at having a story. I really dislike how people who don't read much confuse 'many words' with 'a story.'
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>>338076643
Cheat if you're too bored, the good parts of the game are its choices and roleplaying, and the combat is boring as shit.
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>>338076643
Act 1 and 2 are meh at best and awful at worst. Rest of the game is pretty neat tho.
Act 4 of Witcher 1 was probably most atmospheric thing I've seen in RPG.
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Nah man you gotta play HunieCam Studio
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>>338077091
>It's like how people hold up Planescape: Torment as a good RPG. I played that and it's a bunch of poorly realised pseudointellectual wank. It lacked all of the cornerstones of what makes a good story.

It really only fell apart at the end. A solid 80-90% of it is at least pretty good. I have to say, though, I wouldn't tolerate that shit from a novel.
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