Why aren't you playing vanilla WoW?
I'm just playing the real game. I don't really want to put time in a private server that is too buggy and will be taken down shortly. Any /v/ guilds recruiting?
Because I played it 10 years ago, when it was relevant.
Because the private servers are full of min-maxing tryhards. The comfiness is gone.
>>338060261
I've already played it
Waiting to see what comes of these meetings before I get back into any.
If they're refusing to make legacy servers I'm gunna hop back onto Kronos but if they hint they're working on them or say "wait for Blizzcon" or something I won't bother and will just wait for the real McCoy
>>338062397
>>338062987
Legacy servers will never happen, anon.
Blizzard will make some sort of shitty version of vanilla with LFR, heirlooms and faster leveling.
>>338060261
WoW is a shit game
Source: Played it at release.
>>338060261
Because I moved on.
>>338060261
Because back when it was released I gave up at level 41 and never wanted to go through that endless grind again. Game is better now than it ever was before. Don't get how people actually prefer that old garbage. Have fun looking up shit online cause there's no quest guide and other conveniences.
>>338060261
call me when there's a good TBC server
>>338063139
Does anyone even have time for vanilla WoW anymore?
Took me 5 months just to reach 60, back in the day. Life won't let me have that kind of dedication.
>>338063139
>Blizzard will make some sort of shitty version of vanilla with LFR, heirlooms and faster leveling
They may be out of touch but they're not that stupid, them floating the idea of pristine servers shows that they realise a lot of their userbase aren't happy with all the QoL shit in retail.
I played it 10 years ago and it wasn't actually that good, certainly not goon enough to bother with private servers that are filled with bugs and shit admins that will just end up being taken down anyway.
>>338063374
>Game is better now than it ever was before.
You have to be 18 or older to post here.
>>338063374
>>338063374
>Gave up at 41
>Endless grind
>Have fun looking up shit online cause there's no quest guide
Seriously, I'm not trying to be insulting, but it just sounds like you're not very smart or have ADHD. Every single quest has text explicitly telling you what to do, it's not vague in the slightest.
Sounds like Blizzard really hit the nail on the head dumbing the game down so much that even mouthbreathers like you can play though.
The closest thing to how WoW used to feel is Hearthstone tbqh.
>>338060261
>Need to blackjack 5 peons
>There are only 6 available spread out over the whole starting area
>A peon takes 5 minutes to cycle back to sleep
>There are 80 people trying to finish the quest
Yeah vanilla was fucking amazing.
>>338060261
because nostalrius got shut down
>>338063827
> Every single quest has text explicitly telling you what to do
Not every. Some are wonky, like the ony chain for alliance. How were you supposed to know to go into that blue dragon cave in winterspring?
Though, thats few and far between.
>>338063374
>Have fun looking up shit online cause there's no quest guide and other conveniences.
>he doesn't use addons for questing
>>338063905
>>338063827
Blizzard dumbed the game down so much even the mouthbreathers don't want to play it anymore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vR20QH5UHoM
>>338063478
Shit I barely have time for current WoW and there's literally nothing to do except clear the most current raid once a week.
Same reason I'm not playing halo 2 online anymore. It isn't 2005 and I'm not 13.
>>338063827
Easy quests > more max levels> more endgame players> welfare epics> easier heroics> more and dumber raiders>casualized raids> The hollow game we have now
Let me know if you want the bad flow chart for pvp casualization as well
>>338063827
>mfw someone made the Quest Helper addon
Whoever made it really deserved a high five.
>>338062987
nothing will be announced after the meeting. legion has a decent amount of hype right now, there's no way in hell they'd release legacy servers before or slightly after the release of legion. its possible maybe after a year when they lose subs from legion, but dont expect anything from that meeting.
expect it as a big pr move "we want to thank the dedicated team of nostarilous developers for their devotion and love of the game. we enjoyed meeting with them and getting their thoughts on the current game."
thats all you will get, at best.
>>338063908
So move on to something else. That quest is worth maybe 400 xp i.e. killing a few boars. Only a frustrated retard would spend an hour trying to complete it.
>>338062987
Kronos is almost kill friend.
Im stitting at lvl 52 just awaiting the server to stablize to ding 60 but i fear i am waiting for nothing
Waiting for legacy servers :^)
did once
got a human warrior to 45 in 4 months and it was the boringness of feralas that finally got me
never again
>>338060261
I grew up unlike you OP
>>338064286
>Missing the point
At the time no one knew what quests were required to do other quests and Sen'jin was much harder than the hardest part of the starting area so most people needed to turn in everything.
>>338064054
>dat video
holy shit I cant stop laughing
>>338060261
Bernie Sanders propaganda...mkay. Is no place safe?
Because I find it tedious waiting around for AQ to open, doing the available content over and over is no fun.
>>338064283
I have no doubt they'll require you to have the latest boxed expac to play legacy servers. This means no reduction in boxed sales numbers and no drop in subs, win-win for Blizzard.
That being said I also doubt they'd release legacy before Legion.
>>338064678
>Anti-Hilary is pro-Bernie
America has you trained well.
>>338064845
Not like it matters. Literally ANY candidate is better than Hillary.
>>338064845
No other group is anti Hillary more than Bernie fucking Sanders cult followers
Friendly reminder that only literal retards dislike Vanilla/BC WoW. If you prefer Wrath+ to Vanilla/BC, you are literally retarded.
>people getting mad about the whole "you think you do, but you don't" thing
He's right, tho.
Assume you get vanilla servers, it takes you a whole year to kill Ragnaros (just because of all the grinding involved) and then what? What would keep you tied to the game? Updates? Aren't updates the very thing that "ruined" the game? Do you want to slowly catch up to present time? Then what, complain all over?
If you think you'll be happy with staying on the same content for years to come you're kidding yourself... and if you want official legacy servers you'd NEED to play in them for a long time so it remains a sustainable business.
That's the whole reason they won't do it. If you get bored of vanilla you are pretty much guaranteed to never come back, but with new things every now and then there's a possibility that you may want to check it out. Stall content is not a good business for Blizzard, content droughts prove that.
>>338063478
You can get to 60 in a few days if you just powerlevel.
>>338065093
>it takes you a whole year to kill Ragnaros
stop
>>338064976
Exactly my point
>>338065034
Sounds like someone is upset that their favorite candidate turned out to be a criminal.
>>338063827
I admit I haven't played WoD but I've watched a few other people play it. This guy for example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdQA1GNWPQ0 can apparently one-hit everything without ever losing mana all the way through level 8. It looks way too easy to be any fun.
>>338065093
updates till wotlk and then start over / free character migration to live.
YOU
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>>338064286
>he lacked the dedication to finish all the shimmering flats quests
>>338065193
Ok, let me check the facts.
WoW released November 2004, Ragnaros was killed on April 2005. 6 Months.
That's even worse! You'd run out of things to do even faster... and considering people know how to raid by now the game's expected lifespan is about 4 months per player tops.
Sure, some people would roll alts and what not but the vast majority would just get bored and quit by knowing there won't be new things to do.
>>338065339
I want this so much.
>>338065803
>He seriously thinks Rag is the final boss of Vanilla
Wow you're not even pretending to be a Catababby are you? You genuinely are one.
>>338065967
Cool, you want Naxxramas. Then what?
>>338066039
>He forgot about ZG
>>338065803
>"You'd run out of things to do even faster!"
>Ony, BWL, ZG, AQ20, AQ40, Naxx, all of BC, all of Wrath
>Nostalrius was more alive and populous than ever over a year into its lifespan and people were eagerly awaiting AQ
>>338066039
Do you have any idea what the lifespan of prebc was? By the time blizzard finishes legion AND the next expansion legacy servers still won't even have transitioned to bc
god damn you fucking underage b& plz leave
>>338066039
BC. And before you say B-B-UT THEN W-WHAT, Vanilla-2.4.3 would be around 4 fucking years of content. You could even go to Wrath which would be six fucking years of content. Most MMO's don't even last a year nowadays before going F2P, I'm sure Blizzard would be happy with having 6 years of content that they've already made that people are willing to pay to play again.
>>338064054
Denim, Denim, Denim
>>338066257
Plenty of people here have already expressed desire to pay for shit that is years old. It's like printing money so why the fuck not?
Because they're afraid they're going to embarrass themselves.
>>338066464
They've already embarrassed themselves plenty with WoD, not like they've got a reputation to lose now or anything.
>>338066464
If they embarrass themselves they end up being reminded of what the winning formula is and make a lot more money because of it.
>>338066464
They embarass themselves with everything they do.
>>338066257
>>338066191
>>338066216
>I want patched vanilla, then BC, then Wrath!
>All that shit is updated content
You guys are stupid as fuck and I'm glad you will never have what you want.
>>338065803
The way I see it, you ideally want to release content in a range long enough that 90% of the people running it can fill up their gear sets before the next update. I figure that's about 3 months per raid tier, so that's 4 years to get back to MoP, and 6 years to catch up to live assuming 1 tier per year. That's pretty sustainable, especially if they release a new progression server every year.
>>338065093
I think the biggest problem is the vanilla community is really divided on what "vanilla" means. Whether it's full fledged vanilla with no modern changes or vanilla with QoL changes, it'll be a shitshow no matter what.
>>338065093
>Assume you get vanilla servers, it takes you a whole year to kill Ragnaros
We were doing full clears of MC within two months on nost you fucking idiot.
Not even reading the rest of your shit post. You have shit opinions and you're underage.
>>338067351
>the vanilla community is really divided on what "vanilla" means
That's because we've got normie infiltrators
VANILLA MEANS VANILLA, WARTS AND ALL. Whatever the state of the patch was, that's the state of the fucking patch. Yes those bugs and class imbalances are still there, get the fuck over it, stop trying to make this fun-time dragonkiller social game revolve around your dick-polishing minigame.
tbqh i don't even know how much fun you would really have in a legacy server. i'm not trying to say people who played in nostalrius had fake fun, but i do certainly believe it was artificial.
i mean, when you have every resource from before cataclysm available it's like playing dark souls with a walkthrough in front of you. like, it's no wonder every raid group in nostalrius was optimized as fuck: everyone who wanted to DPS knew to roll a warrior/rogue, everyone who wanted to tank knew to go warrior, and absolutely fucking no one played hunters.
>>338065034
Crooked Hillary & Lyin' Ted sound like a match made in heaven.
>>338067719
>normie infiltrators
>>338067243
That I can agree with. But I'm dead serious about people not knowing what they want because of...
>>338067351
This. Everyone wants their fucking hamburger customized the way they want it. Blizzard is much better just staying out of it.
>>338067382
Does he work just like in vanilla?
A lot of private servers have issues where bosses aren't as hard as they should be because of bad coding.
>>338067351
Well there are some really obvious QoL changes that completely pile drive the game into the dust like LFG and heroic gear thats on par with current tier of raiding but I don't think you'll find anyone who would object to keyrings, or cast sequence macros.
>>338067382
To be fair, Nost is a replica that, as I understand it, was running patch 1.13 with the raids gated to simulate progression. Rags would be easier compared to... Whatever patch was live when he finally went down on live.
If they ever got to BC, I'm sure Kael/vashj would both go down super quick as a matter of their encounters not being bugged to fuck.
>>338068008
I'm talking graphical changes mostly.
>>338064812
>being a pro-anything
>believing in Bernie meme
>believing in Trump meme
It's all the same thing. A rigged game to keep us divided and entertained.
>>338067212
No updates pre-wrath did anything to detrimentally fuck the game up, infact most improved the game.
Did you seriously think people were asking for Vanilla 1.0 and no updates, you fucking jackass?
>>338067915
Thing is it's not like Nostalrius was plagued with "it's not authentic enough!" They could have some sort of classic progression set up for version 6.whatever we're on, and people would eat it up because it's something to do besides sitting in your garrison and running the same fucking raids again.
>>338068185
Fuck yeah dude, we need anarchy up in this, only then can we truly be free.
>>338068617
>No updates pre-wrath did anything to detrimentally fuck the game up, infact most improved the game.
BC was my favorite version of the game but this isn't true.
>Flying fucking up Wpvp
>Emblem gear allowing entire raid tiers to be bypassed
>Balancing classes around Arena instead of being smart developers and balancing pvp and pve seperately
>Having shit balance anyway
>>338064283
WoD had less than 2 months before the community was maxing out, being done with raiding, and bored.
>>338065228
Lol, not even that guy but have fun believing someone who even if elected president wouldn't be able to do ANY of the things he promises. But I know its easier to be 19 and want free college and fighting the machine ect. ect. All you're really doing his handing Trump the presidency by causing massive party infighting. Have fun making America great again (:
>>338062552
>anyone supporting Hillary for any reason whatsoever
>>338069019
Yes I agree most of those updates weren't great but like I said, did any of those actually fuck up the core of the game?
Arguably flying might have but that's debatable. All of the shit they pulled post-BC measurably and objectively did fuck the core of the game up though.
>>338064812
Why aren't you on sandersforpresident reddit, epic Chris Hardwick, free college, corporations are running the country and so on.
>>338069019
world pvp was fucked the momment they introduced battlemasters
stop spouting bullshit
and even there we used to have people sneaking into enemy cities and getting into the battlemaster room to kill people from wall-jumping (something which i never saw in wotlk but i used to see at tbc in sattrath
>>338069019
The thing is you should be able to bypass raids. No one wants to play with their friends but not be able to play with them because the didn't spend the requisite times in each progressive raid tier. The problem is they essentially trashed every raid tier instead of running some season-like progression model. I mean D2 has been going for years because seasons give people a reason to restart every now and then. That's basically what people are asking for through all this.
>>338069218
>>338069194
>>338065228
>>338064845
>>338065034
>>338064678
>>338062552
Guys, nobody gives a fucking rats ass about your dog and pony show presidential race, this is a thread talking about Vanilla WoW. Fuck off.
>>338069559
>world pvp was fucked the momment they introduced battlemasters
This is my favorite meme. If WPvP was killed by BGs/battlemasters, how do you explain the hours upon endless hours of world PvP I participated in on my server in Vanilla and Wrath? That same WPvP which, by the way, basically evaporated entirely the instant they allowed us to fly on Kalimdor/EK.
>>338068617
>Did you seriously think people were asking for Vanilla 1.0 and no updates, you fucking jackass?
No, but asking for "vanilla", plus wrath, plus whatever, minus this, minus that, is a flawed argument and is no wonder the nostalgic community can't be taken seriously by anyone but themselves.
>>338070043
Nice strawman.
>>338060261
>Why aren't you playing vanilla WoW?
I already played it ten years ago.
>>338068693
Well... Draenor was a pretty bad expansion tbqh.
Even though I play on a vanilla server, honestly, WotLK is far better.
>all class specs are viable (some are better than others if you want to minmax, but ALL are viable)
>some of the best questing in all the expansions
>LFG is a godsend
Vanilla stil does a few things better, though.
>actual good class quests
>actual world PvP
>has a few quests that actually take you to other parts of the world, and are sometimes several levels higher than you (e.g. hey nigga, go all the way to Desolace and talk to this guy)
>>338069559
>world pvp was fucked the momment they introduced battlemasters
wot? wpvp was still fine after battlegrounds were in because there were still people in the world doing things like gathering resources or heading to dungeons or grinding CC rep or whatever. You could gank them easily and start fights and have a gay ole time.
Flying fucked that up for a few reasons though, first because you were completely safe in the air so traveling from herb spawn to herb spawn was a snore and completely blasted away any situational awareness you needed. Secondly because the epic flying mounts moved so fast that it likely that they wouldn't even render before they were ontop of you which meant that every ganker was a rogue, even if they were a mage.
>doesn't like world PvP
>can't find a single populated PvE server
>>338069963
The only common form on WPvP after the introduction of battlegrounds, DKs and battlemasters was random ganking. Anything else was a rarity. This is why Blizzard attempted to fix the issue by introducing pvp objectives (lolsand and epl towers) in 1.12.
>>338070357
>all class specs are viable
There were only a small handful of specs in Vanilla that truly weren't viable. Unless you wanted to play a Prot Paladin, you could take whatever you wanted through raids as long as you were in a guild that was cool enough to take you.
>some of the best questing in all the expansions
I never had to group once in Wrath questing. I rarely ever died. A lot of the zones were underwhelming. This is ultimately subjective but I disagree strongly.
>LFG is a godsend
Are you talking about the dungeon finder or the actual LFG menu?
>>338068961
>we need anarchy
You need to be 18 or older to post in here.
>>338070683
The only memorable quest I can remember from Wotlk is that massive one that leads to that one cutscene with the undead dropping the plague
I can remember multiple quests from vanilla tho
>>338070659
>The only common form on WPvP after the introduction of battlegrounds, DKs and battlemasters was random ganking
This isn't true at all. There was a guild on my server in Wrath that RP'd as an extension of the Scarlet Crusade looking to purify Azeroth and would constantly roll through cities and camp quest hubs. They were the biggest Alliance guild by far (on Stormreaver US, a huge server that was evenly balanced) and there were PvP events scheduled on the forums all the fucking time.
Secondly, even if ganking was the only form of WPvP, it'd be fine. Ganking is all you need. Someone gets ganked, they call for backup, one thing leads to another and now you've got a 20v20 in Hillsbrad or EPL or whatever zone.
People who claim that anything but flying mounts killed WPvP are either retarded, baiting, or never participated in much WPvP to begin with.
>>338069218
Not that guy but she's the only actual politician running for president. Kinda narrows the options.
>hm, a washed up reality tv show tool who appeals to the monster truck vote
>a socialist bull in the china shop who should have dropped out with ted cruz a long time ago
>someone who's actually been in the whitehouse and might actually, you know, know what they're doing
But whatever, keep pushing your silly meme candidate.
>>338070875
>Not remembering the Sons of Hodir Quests
>Not remembering shitting in Grizzly Hills
>Not remembering hunting with Nesingwary in Scholozar
>Not remembering almost all of Icecrown
Then again
>Being able to forget Icecrown dailies
I envy you somewhat on this
Vanilla is and was fucking garbage
I'm playing on a wotlk private server.
>>338071245
>>338069194
you're retarded, doing nothing is WAY better than having hillary clinton in.
I'd way rather have bernie sanders in because nothing would happen and that's WAY better than any other candidate except donald trump potentially.
So guys get this, I've been left by this virtual girlfriend I had a week ago because I didn't grant her access to the guild bank.
Three days later I wasn't getting any more nude pics from her and I was horny so I basically let her in and gave her access.
Today I log in and the bank is EMPTY like not even fucking level 90s epics are there anymore and the girl gquit.
I was just an officer and I'm pretty sad about how things turned out which made me gquit aswell out of shame.
Planning of not logging this character or any of my guild alts ever again.
The thing is she deleted me from battlenet and skype too. She probably thinks I'm angry with her which I'm really not, just disappointed.
Already tried sending friend requests on skype and sent her a tell on my characters but she ignores all of them.
I deleted my 100 shaman which I didn't use anyway to make an alt and tell her Im not mad but she ignored me and doesn't answer to mails.
Would asking some random person in Orgrimmar to talk in my behalf (for some gold) be too much?
vanilla wow played me
>>338071527
Good. Stay there with your worthless opinions you fucking Wrathbabby.
>>338071953
1/10
>>338069194
I would honestly vote Trump if it meant keeping Hillary out of office.
>>338063478
levelling was one of the best parts of vanilla though.
>>338070161
That is way too much mustard
>>338072347
>>338071817
Trump is unelectable. Less than half of the republican vote wants him. He's inexperienced. His views on everything is childish and shortsighted. And that's not even bringing up the racism, sexism, and flip flopping on "important conservative views".
Sanders would have been fine if he wasn't a socialist just trying to bog Hillary. He should have ran as an independent. He does not represent the democratic party.
Hillary isn't perfect (no politician is) but she's infinitely more qualified than the others. Whether you agree or disagree with her is literally besides the point because there's no other actual choice. Have fun plastering the back of your truck with obnoxious bumper stickers for the next 8 years while America moves on without you?
>>338071346
Lol I sadly did not quest through Grizzly Hills...I went Tundra and Dragonblight, which I know, was a big mistake.
Those argent dailies were good for a few days or so, but then got fucking awfuk
>>338063827
>Every single quest has text explicitly telling you what to do, it's not vague in the slightest.
You fucking what.
>>338072467
>The Benediction quest line
>>338072438
I mean he's unelectable in the sense that somebody is just going to run up to him and shoot him with a gun.
>>338072467
Nothing wrong with that tbqh. Search for that shiny carrot you cunt.
>>338060261
Because vanilla wow was shit
>>338072467
I clearly meant while levelling but yes, of course there were a small handful that weren't clear. 99% were though, especially at level 40.
>>338063393
excalibur is a pretty good tbc server
>>338068008
vanilla had keyrings
>>338067351
the vanilla I'd like is
>fix the FUCKING honor ranking system
>leave everything else alone
>>338072982
The thing about old wow is that its lack of polish is what got people to actually talk to each other. Where is mankirk's wife? Where do I level next? What does this pool of blood do? Does anyone want to help with this quest involving a shitton of murlocs in an underwater boat?
>>338072467
Oh man the 1 in a thousand quest that required you to do more than just follow the directions to the area and kill 300 bears for their asses. All quests should only be about bear ass, no variety allowed.
>>338071245
Yeah Clinton knows how to assassinate people who know of her fuckups. Might come in handy.
>>338073006
>over 2k players online
that's great if it's true
>premium store
how bad is it?
i was
then blizzard fucking killed nostalrius
fuck em
>>338072968
This. I have no clue how can you faggots still defend it.
>>338064283
Serious question. Who here is ACTUALLY hyped for Legion?
Looks like dogshit to me
>>338074275
looks alright, at this point I'm running out of games to play with my friends so I'll probably get it anyhow
>>338073249
>Where is mankirk's wife?
that has nothing to do with polish. she's exactly where he says she is, and she's in plain sight. like most people who struggle with this, you've also spelled his name wrong since you don't read so good
mankrik's wife is what i'd consider one of the key litmus tests in games. it's so elegant in how simple and straightforward it is and yet filters so many retards
>>338072467
>FFXIV introduced a questline that didn't use the questlog other than 'you have accepted quest X'
>You had to listen to NPCs, study your map and look out for landmarks
It was quite fun until
>in the end it became some convoluted math puzzle that had you look at clues and figure out a ring+gem combination that goldsmith could make for you and turn it in
Way to fuck it up. Only less than 7% of players actually finished the questline. I seriously doubt oldschool questing would fly in these times.
>>338074490
>Only less than 7% of players actually finished the questline
Only 7% of the players finished it because they're used to easy as shit questing. Make all of the quests that indepth and that number would go up.
>>338072438
>>338064315
not really, they're still tweaking the server after just finishing the move yesterday.
>>338072870
Yeah, they said that about Obama and they said that about Dubyah Round 2, keep fantasizing.
>>338060261
I did, private server.
I was horde originally, played alliance this time.
And the alliance side wasDOGSHIT.
Way too much traveling, not many settlements, large lvl difference in quests, horde got all the crossroads, overal boring fantasy template races,way too much underage roleplay, etc.
Horde was pretty much better in every single aspect, but i think the devs were horde biased themselves.
Darnassus and Ironforge were my favorite cities tho.
>>338065034
really? the group using the term "crooked hillary" doesn't sound more anti-hillary to you?
>>338065609
Most people never even went to Shimmering Flats, I always went to quest there.
