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http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2016/may/17/another-super-smash-bros-4-patch-inbound-116-expected-drop-month-and-bring-balance-changes/

Why no thread on this? Post your wish list. Also, lets reflect on how much this game changed throughout two years for worse and for better.
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>>338053947
>expected

can you even read?
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>>338054387
Do you not know that the word expected means?
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>>338054680
>expected = confirm


Do you?
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>>338054958
>believe that (someone or something) will arrive soon
Do you?

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/wiiu/axfj/update/index.html
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>>338054958
>Nintendo of Japan has officially announced another patch for Super Smash Bros. Wii U and 3DS.
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B U F F
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>>338053947
>Why no thread on this?

We've had at least 6 threads on this you fucking retard.
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>>338056365
15 hours ago you cuckdump.
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>increased grab range
>less end lag on Nair
>grab armor on recovery like Brawl
>more KBG on grounded Wizard's Foot
>remove the sour spot on Dsmash
>give Warlock punch better super armor (and add it on aerial as well)
>give Utilt super armor
>increased run speed/aerial speed
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nerf rosa and bayo
no need to nerf anyone else it's all good
just hand out little buffs here and there
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Reminder that they nerf and buff based off Japanese results

Expect Bayonetta to get shat on
Expect literally nothing for your favorite mid-low tier
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>>338056598
Go read the archives then instead of discussing literally nothing since no information was given.
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>>338056697
>>338056616
>>338053947
>Taking the shittiest smash seriously

Enjoy it casually REEEE
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I need some Cloud buffs. They nerfed him way too fucking hard last patch.
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>>338056830
I do play it casually, it's still nice to have some balance
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>>338056901
No dude he is perfect as of 1.1.5, the rest of the roster should be adjusted to where Cloud and Sheik are right now
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>>338056901
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>>338056747
I can expect Roy and Portion getting something since DS sakurai has a hard on for them
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I bet they aren't going to change much and the patch is just to force people to update after they release a new firmware that patches the kernel exploit, like they did with all the 3DS Pokémon games. You know, get some impatient people to update before IOSU is released.
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>>338057515
I'll wait for the patch notes, then decide.
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SAKURAI ALWAYS NERFS MY MAINS

FUCK OFF YOU HACK
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>>338053947
i just want Roy buffs.
also kinda sucks that this patch could come out like a 2 days before GOML
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Tfw pacman is fine as is and has a ridiculously low chance of getting nerfed
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Bowser having better options off of a throw would be nice. Maybe a quicker auto cancel on his back air? Slightly longer range on aerial side B?
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>>338058140
>GOML

Im in M2K's pool
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>>338056901
Fuck off. He got a love tap, he's still Top 5.
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FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, CAN SOMEONE FIX THE FALCON/KIRBY MATCHUP?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe2_1Xy9Y48
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>>338053947
>Reduced end/start up lag for all moves that need it (basically all of them, especially the tilts)
>Increased knockback for Smashes
>Increase length of counter to allow for successful hits
>Remove counter's sour spot

She and Zelda BOTH need buffs, there have been plenty of opportunities for them to be buffed, but only the most insignificance changes ever take place for them.
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>>338058140

Oh, but I though Roy was a top tier threat with his oh so amazing continentbuster sword, not like that shitty Marth? I sure heard that a lot at least.
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>>338058523
I'd say he's no more than 15th on the tier list. He's really not good at all, just because of his recovery.
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>>338058816
>Roy
>Anything but mediocre
Don't listen to anyone who tells you he's better than Marth.
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>>338058346

Do you have a good MU against Cloud at least?
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>>338058641
>Falcon gets shit on

Nothing odd here. That guy clearly was shit and didn't have a pocket character to switch to when he gets hard countered
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>>338058901

Could you go as far as saying that Roy is worst lord?
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>>338058816
except Roy has has worse range, and not good enough frame data to get in close like he's supposed to.
his punish game is also very lackluster, kill moves require hard reads and his recovery is very bad.
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>>338058138
At least Sakurai doesn't remove all your mains from the game when making sequels. I'd bet $5 Duck Hunt doesn't make it to Smash 5, just like Ice Climbers and Ivysaur.
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>>338056901
>nerfed him way too hard
>Literally just took a percent off of uair and nerfed aerial finishing touch since he basically destroyed doubles

Cloud is still the best doubles character but now he's just SS tier instead of SSS tier.
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>>338057515
It's already confirmed that replays are broken iirc so there's some sort of balance or mechanic chance.
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usa here, I thought we were getting the patch last night?
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>>338059301
replays are fine, im uploading mine now

you guys should get on it while you can
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>>338058914
I play fox

Im hoping to get a game off him
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>>338058875
>Cloud
>Not Top 5

Your trash
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>>338059649
>he loses to cloud when you can tap him to gimp
k scrub
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>>338056616
All of this and Wario's FSmash to be faster overall.
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>>338059736
t.someone with very predicable recovery patterns
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>>338059565

Gimp him like your life depends on it.
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Give him better range, that's it.
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Shine cancel when?
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>>338059531
They haven't confirmed when exactly the patch is dropping, they just said sometime in May.
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>>338059736
Cloud has amazing hit boxes, kill confirms, limit break, and combos he win a tournaments regularly he's not shit your the one who is. His recovery isn't even that bad
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>>338059004
There is still Lucina. But since I barely pay attention to her I don't know how she compares to Roy. For all I know all the buffs Marth got might have made her better than Roy since she shares most of them.
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>>338059841
Git fucking gud bro, not even a cloud main.

>>338060014
>wins tournaments
LMAOOOOO
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I don't think we need any nerfs

Please buff shulk, palutana, samus, duck hunt

Zelda, ganon, and jiggs are beyond redemption with any kinds of buffs
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>>338060129
if Cloud is so easy to gimp why aren't you taking sets off top Cloud players?
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GIVE ME AUTOCANCELING LIGHTNING KICKS FOR FUCK SAKE.
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>>338059945
And a landing method that isn't go back to the edge. Ness gets juggled SO easily
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>>338060085
Nah lucina is better than roy

Roy is straight up trash
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BUFF THE PUFF.
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>>338060212
I live far from most majors.
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>>338058641
Not denying the bad matchup but that's mostly just a good player vs a shit player.
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>people think mewtwo is good now
>they nerf him making him shittier then he already is
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>>338060442
have you seen abadango play him? hes a fucking wizard
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>>338060271
Auto cancel lightning kicks will never ever be a thing unless they drastically nerf the power.

What they should really do is give Zelda an actually good fair for spacing and just keep lightning kick as her bair. After that just make her frame data better, I guess.
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>>338058875
>Top 15
You are insane. He has power, speed and a good kit. All he's missing is just a good recovery with Limit Climhazzard fixes and he can recover if he reads your gimp pattern.
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>>338060129
So explain the number of Cloud finishing in Top 32 at nationals regularly since your FG experience against Cloud is so great
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>>338060271
>remove helpless mode from Din's Fire
>reduce all landing lag by a few frames
Sorted, now she can hang with the upper mids
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>>338060371
ok, still doesn't change the fact that Cloud is a very good character.
unless you somehow think a ok recovery ruins a character with great hitboxes, combos, ability to force approaches and tons of kill confirms
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>>338060442
Mewtwo is fucking great now, no need for nerfs though there are characters better than him
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>>338058727
I cant believe Sakurai doesnt buff my waifu and at the same time his daughter. What a joke.
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>>338060271
They might as well give Captain Falcon autocancel Knee and Ganon autocancel Stomp.
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>>338060591
He's a mediocre character, abadongo is just a really good player who for some reason puts a lot of effort in sub par characters.
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>>338060736
Kinda like how Sheik in Melee has a pretty garbage recovery but her other tools let her hang at the top.
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>>338060886
You can't win a major with a mediocre character. Mewtwo's good but you have to put serious effort into him.

Abadango is a step ahead of every other Mewtwo player. I haven't seen a single other Mewtwo as good at teleport edge cancels, DJC shadow ball and footstool disable set ups as Abadango. His spacing and confirms are amazing, he really brings out Mewtwo's potential.
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>didn't expect shit last time
>got a massive buff to dash attack
>don't expect shit this time
I wonder...
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>>338058727
>>338060790

The thing I think a lot of people really tend to forget about is that Palutena was designed as the poster character for custom moves which do make her a more viable character, especially with Lightweight and Super Speed on. I think that's why they never really buffed her that much.
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>>338061139
not to mention Abadango didn't even win majors previously when he used Meta Knight
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>>338061213
>Dash Attack now kills at 50% and is safe on shield
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I don't really know what else you can do to weegee at this point. He's been tapped by the nerf stick before, and the worst he's gotten is having his down throw> 12 aerial moves combo changed to a down throw> 3 aerial moves. I guess they're just happy with where he is.
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Give me back 1.1.5 Corrin. The only thing that needed to be nerfed was the counter, everything else was fine. Corrin wasn't even top 10.
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Anyone feel like having a tourney? I'll make it

I'm also down for 1v1s if anyone is interested
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>>338061645
1.1.4*
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>>338061645
No, eat shit
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>>338061645

>Waifu Emblem deserving shit
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>>338061645
No, enjoy fe characters being useless

That's what you get when you plague a roster with 6 shitty characters
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>>338061645
Corrin needs to be nerfed so hard he's as unplayable as Ice Climbers.
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>>338059004
I see what you did there

[spoilers] yes, he is always worst lord [/spoilers]
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>>338056901
>they nerfed him way too fucking hard
I oughta find a shiek or luigi player to yell at your face
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>>338061948
>>338061823
>>338061976
>Major IP Nintendo wants to grip on
>not deserving more
do i smell rosterfag butthurt again?
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>>338061352
it's like being back with the family for christmas, just having a good time watching the little ones open their presents, just sipping some wine
and then suddenly dad comes around, tells you he booked your favourite porn star for the whole night just for you and to go have fun
maybe the most undeserved buff anyone in 4 has gotten and I love it
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>>338058727
The only buff zelda needs is reduced lag on Fair, bair and landing on the ground with teleport.
>>338061249
It's not their fault for forgetting, because every single big tournament has banned customs.
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>>338061823
>>338061948
>>338061976
>being this butthurt
sorry that FE is actually a franchise with tons of memorable characters and that K.Rool didn't get in
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>>338062251
That woman really seems to be enjoying her line of work, which is rare for a porn star.
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>>338062069
>Luigi
>Nerfed to hard

I really wish this meme would end. Luigi is still stupid good
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>>338061645
Nah, the suffering of cornfags is great.
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It's time you give the puff what it deserves.
http://buffpuff.club/
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Buff Robin
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>>338062365
>which is rare for a porn star.
Not really.
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>>338062131
>>338062326

At least from me what you're smeeling is old FireEmblemfag ass devastation. Fuck that grindfest date sim that is post-Awakening FE, Corrin should get an uair nerf.
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>>338062370
Luigi's still good but he's definitely a lot worse. His combo game went from amazing to good and he lost a retardedly good kill confirm off of a grab.
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>>338062370
Anon Luigi went from high tier to mid tier, this isen't like Diddy who went from Top Tier to high tier. Luigi got nerfd hard
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>>338062503
Corrin's uair was already nerfed.
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>>338062485
If you say so, so got a source?
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>>338062683

I know.

Do it again.

And Buff Marth's dair too, cut some of its endlag
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>>338062503
>At least from me what you're smeeling is old FireEmblemfag ass devastation.
reasonable

sakurai should've done characters to complete the FE weapon triangle than throwing in Poocina or Roy

reminder Corrin is the closest we'll get to a spearhead fighter in Smash
>inb4 dirty Deefags
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>>338062665
Yeah because everyone dropped off the bandwagon the few Luigi players left still place really well. His combo game is still good and he can kill with alot
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>>338062054
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>>338062903
at least he didn't say "shit lord" fami
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>>338062787
>sakurai should've done characters to complete the FE weapon triangle than throwing in Poocina or Roy

He couldn't do that because the only characters that get in are Lords or the shitty CaCs. Lords usually have swords though, so blame IS for that.
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>>338062880
But his combo game is worst then what it used to be and he lost his only kill confirm.
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>>338062880
Mr. ConCon was the only notable Luigi and he places a lot worse than he used to.
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>>338063052
Hector has an axe and there are at least 2 lords in the series who uses lances as their primary weapon.
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>>338062326
>sorry that FE is actually a franchise with tons of memorable characters


6 ANIME SAMEFACES
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>>338063052
>so blame IS for that.
and IntSys WAS also heavily involved in Sm4sh's development

mostly the character designs and the Lucina versus Falcon trailer
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>>338063219
More like 3.

Whining like a pussy won't add K.Rool or Wolf, bubbo.
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>>338062880
I literally just spam green missile and tornado and have a pretty easy time
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it's not a competitive game anyways.
who cares.
there's a reason hackurai tries to advertise it as "very good deal" and "great bargain for all the stuff you get" and that reason is because there's lots of stuff, but the stuff isn't good.
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>>338063052

>Doesn't remember Hector
>Doesn't remember Ehraim
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>>338063219
name a nintendo franchise with better characters
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The bad: They didn't turn it into Melee 2.0, so it never got good.

The good: They didn't turn it into Melee 2.0, so I got to play plenty of other games.
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>>338063219
it's a major ip now anon
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>>338063301
>more like 3

so you agree


and i fucking hate the K.rool and wolf meme, I already got my boy loogi
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I wish Samus played like she does in the games. I have no idea why Samurai hates Metroid so much.
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>>338063424
Mother
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>>338063219
>implying FPAtroid, Cuck Fox, and non-country DK characters are memorable than all the post-GBA FE characters
m-muh sameface
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>>338063465
its fitting that you used a child for this post
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>>338063470
>major ip
>most popular game hasn't even hit 2 million sales, despite having multiple games and on the highest selling console this gen

Wew fucking lad. Call me when FE reaches metroid prime sales. Actually dont, that sold more on a worse selling console.
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>>338063465
>They didn't turn it into *Melee dethoner
fixed
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>Roy was thought to be top tier character when first launched
>now, he is considered one of the worst characters in the game.

What happen?
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>>338063884
I literally only play Mario in smash bros so I feel the need to shitpost all I want about the other nobodies that make it in due to advertising or FOTMs :^)
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>>338064312
People are retarded
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>>338064164
are there even actual sale numbers for Fates yet?
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>>338064164
>>most popular game hasn't even hit 2 million sales
it did FPSbabby, seem like you missed the shareholders meeting few weeks ago

https://mynintendonews.com/2016/04/28/fire-emblem-is-now-considered-a-major-ip-for-nintendo/
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>>338058875
>being shit at the game.
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>>338064312
People simply realized how retarded you'd have to be to get hit by any of his moves that mattered.
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>>338064358
that's really nice to know, senpai
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>no Wolf, can't :awoo: anybody
>Puff, DK, Wario just range from bad to meh
>Mewtwo is actually good though

my feelings about this game are so mixed
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>>338064836
>DK ranging from bad to meh

git gud
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>>338064986
>puff being anything but bad
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>>338064836
>DK ranging from bad to meh

>he doesn't know about the Ding Dong
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>>338058641
It's funny that the dorf has a decent MU against Kirby and Falcon not.
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>>338065153
>Sheik, ZSS and Bayo players everywhere

how

also I know about the ding dong
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>>338064312
>One of the worst
>F tier
That places him on low tier. Far from worst
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I mean I kind of figured it wouldn't drop last night since it wasn't datamined and leaked three days prior.
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>>338056223

>buff bdddbdddd
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>>338064513
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2016/160427_4e.pdf
1.84 million physical copies sold worldwide.
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>>338062251
>black hand
man, I remember 5 years ago, very few people here would've cared, but now, it's a miracle that we don't have kids screaming cuck and such with this webm.
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When will they buff his backthrow?
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Nerf Ryu's damage output on ALL his aerial moves. 16% on one fucking aerial? Fuck off, that shit is what everyone had back in Melee but NOOOO, special snowflake DLC gets it this time around? No.

Besides, why would Ryu do a lot of damage in the air? His damaging moves should be grounded moves. Not even in his own SF games does he do so much damage with jumping attacks. What the fuck.
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>>338062474
But Lucina is not a lesbian.
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>>338063424
Zelda, Star Fox crystal is not canon, the Mario RPGs.
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>>338065907
outside Smash fanon art, this is true.
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>>338062251
SOURCE
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>>338064568
>calling a primefan a FPSbaby

so FE shitters are the ones fucking on the metroid threads.
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>>338065601
Pretty good, will probably get to 2mil with the EU release
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>>338058138
>maining characters in need of a nerf
>complaining about those characters getting nerfed
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>>338065808
to be fair, 5 years ago cuckold porn was a lot less mainstream. by making such a big deal out of the 'black bull', it funnily enough made me kinda racist around porn. Now I occasionally tell myself that a black actor on a white actress doesn't instantly mean cucks.
porn used to be a lot more fun.
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I don't even care, I'm just bored with the game outside of smash weekends with /v/ and it's not like I take those seriously
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>>338066507
agreed, I only join the gay tryhard circlejerk weekends here and inhale and spit with kirby, it's pretty damn fun and people seem to have an issue with it for whatever reason
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>>338065876
That would be great, the tears would be amazing.
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>>338066162
no anon, i know it's just a First Person adventure Metroid style. it's the fact Metroid Prime fans in /v/ are easy to troll and dominative. i got the FPS=Prime meme from the two angry metroidfags that are still mad 2D Metroid is deader than F-Zero.

also
>implying Kensuku Tanabe isn't turning into an FPS after MP2
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>>338066742
Oh god that's the best, it hits so stupidly hard
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I just want a small Zelda buff.

Give me a storable phantom and remove the freefall from her side-B and I can sleep easily.
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>>338066786
Federation Force as a spin off will be a solid and fun game.
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>>338066864
None of those are "small buffs". Those are basically major overhauls which Sakurai ain't doing at this point.
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>>338066990
It looks like utter shit. I've no idea how anyone thinks the gameplay looks fun. Like I'd expect to see it on the eshop from any other dev for five bucks.
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I just want my Brawl FSmash back.
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>>338067428
no


you stick with having essentially a stronger Ftilt you meme
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>>338067428
I just want Project M Wario
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Hope Samus just gets a few more buffs. The last patch gives me hope
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>>338067341
Enough with this meme, alright? I'll played it at PAX and it plays just like Metroid Prime. Just because you don't like the art style, it doesn't mean that it is a five buck game.
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>>338067341
if anything it looks like it's going to outlast STEAM at least
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I just hope Marth and Ness go untouched. I feel like it's Nerf or nothing for them.
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I just want my old main back.
All the meleeefags got theirs.
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>>338068140
>tfw mained Pichu and Ice climbers
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>>338068095
>Marth
>it's like Nerf or nothing for them
If anything he gets another buff-wave like the last 20 times
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>>338068242
>maining shitty pikachu
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>>338068140
but Melee fans don't like Roy

>yfw thanks to Zero, Wolf gets a new special based on Zero Wolf's Lightning Tornado attack
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> tfw Zelda never be able to save her down+B

Would be game changing for her completely.
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>>338068242
All the meleefags who mattered then.
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>>338068354
>inb4 Pichu Defense Force
he/she's never ever coming, not even in Pokken.

just want Squirtle back and Sceptile in
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>>338068246
I have a bad feeling because he's been getting buffed a lot and now that he's actually good it's time to ruin that.
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>>338068357
Sure we do, we just wish he wasn't tragically awful in Melee. I also wish he wasn't pretty mediocre in 4.
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I'm just curious why it's so unusually large, especially for the 3DS. There's no way it's just minor balancing tweaks.
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>>338068413
>Zelda will always freefall after an aerial side B
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>>338068552
god, i loved that Billy & Mandy episode
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>>338056223
But he's already perfect, anon. The game says so. :^)
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>>338058140
Is that D1 and Mr R
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>>338068584
>inb4 "wolf is definitely getting added :^)"
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>>338068584
3DS is large because updates stack, 350MB is 1.01 to 1.1.6 all combined. The Wii U version is half the size of 1.1.5
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>>338068584
>yfw they patch up backdoors to mod in fancy textures/vertexes in Sm4sh
>Sm4shExplorer update delayed for another 3 months
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>>338053947
I really like this image.
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I want him buffed. His Down Smash is shit
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>>338068962
From my understanding Smash updates won't do anything, it's only the firmware updates we have to worry about. For now if you block the DNS server you're safe.
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>>338068552
>>338068642
>mfw I read jojo and then remembered this episode

the writers were fans weren't they
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>>338069406
git gud
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>>338069406
If you really want a Sonic buff then you should consider killing yourself
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>>338068584

3DS is only big because the way updates work on it means it basically drops everything back to 1.0 and updates back up.
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I feel they should buff Mario to make his uptilts into up air into up B more smoother and inreaded KO petential.
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>>338069856
Requesting "I paid 60 dollars for this?"
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>>338053947
I HOPE THEY GET RID OF THE PEACH BOMBER!!!

it's sexist...
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>>338069406
>Sonic
>top 3
>needs a buff
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>>338070025
You should get rid of yourself desu
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>>338069406
>one of the most miserable characters to fight in the whole game
>needing buffs

might as well buff rosalina and bayonetta while you're at it
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>>338053947
Ready to check this new stuff !
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>>338058138
>your mains always get buffs
Fucking feels great.
>>338069406
>buffing sonic
>ever
stop
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>>338069406
Agreed. But they need to nerf his >b (recovery frames or knockback to prevent ez bake bullshit) but buff other approaching options. fix the homing attack, give spring more kb and hitstun. buff aerials as well. Too bad none of this going to actually happen and Sonic will remain one of the most boring shit rinse / repeat characters in the game. PM Sonic is probably the funnest character of all Smash games for me but Brawl and 4 Sonic are boring trash
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>>338069406
He needs a move set overhaul
Like why are his down special and side special literally exactly the same
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>>338072342
They technically aren't. His Down B is based on how the spin dash functions in the 2D games, and his Side B is based on it functions in a lot of the 3D games like Sonic Adventure.
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BUFF CANNONDWARF AND SEAMUS ARYAN! (not zero suit, fuck that bimbo)
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>>338069406
Sonic is already great. Leave him be.
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Give Rosalina a 2nd Luma that faces behind her
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>>338064312
People overestimate Sm4sh characters all the time.
There was that whole 1-2 month period where the best character in the game changed every week. It was something like Sheik, Bowser, Luigi, Sheik again, and then finally Diddy once ZeRo started winning a lot.
Then there was also that time period when the game launched where we all thought Duck Hunt was Top 5, and that Robin was A Tier.
Also when Mewtwo launched everybody either called him High Tier or a Mid Tier glass cannon, but it turns out he was way worse than anyone thought.
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>>338056223
Didn't he already get buffed? His gordos take a shitton of hits just to reflect now.
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>>338062259
I wouldn't mind her Dash Attack being a touch safer on shield, if that isn't too much to ask.
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>>338053947
Remember before the game came out we all thought Bowser was super top tier?
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>>338074265
This is false. Fox can reflect it with one or two lasers.
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>>338074464
remember when people thought Palutena would be broken as shit due to her trailer?
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BUFF SONIC
U
F
F

S
O
N
I
C
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>>338074706
That was before we figured out how customs would work and what her default specials would be.

If the trailer just showed her warp, reflect, counter and auto-reticle nobody would of been calling her OP except for maybe the up-smash.
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>>338074706
we thought she would get her custom moves regularly like shulk switches monado arts
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>>338074713
please refer to pic related before making any stupid posts

thank you
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>>338075763
Not that Sonic needs any buffs but to be fair that tier list is terribly outdated now.
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>>338075763
>>338075865
He has no kill moves, Sonic need a buff.
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>>338075865
>terribly outdated
>only major changes are sheik dropping and mewtwo rising, as well as introduction of corrin/bayo

>>338075983
fucking lol, please don't speak if you don't know what you're talking about
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>>338076037
I don't think Samus is bottom tier anymore after the buffs she got. Still not great, but probably somewhere in low/mid tier.
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>>338076398
I would put her top of bottom or bottom of low Tbh

buffs helped her out but they helped her out like they helped shulk, they still have too many issues to be viable at top level
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>your main has received one change in the past year and a half or so since the game has been out
>it was a nerf to his already shitty airspeed

FUCK YOU SAKURAI
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HOW DO WE FIX HIM???
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>>338076718
I'm glad DDD is shit all you fuckers do is complain
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>>338077003
Increase duration of his grab.
I hate the animation lasts forever, but you cant actually grab during most of it.
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>>338077067
I main Zelda and I don't complain nearly as much.

Hell I win at locals even. Git gud or git out.
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>>338077167
this is pretty much all he needs

aside from that he's just a high skill character who's tough to play like peach
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>>338076718
I am so glad Dedede is fucking trash garbage bitch shit because anyone whoever picks him just spams Gordos all day or off-ledge suck/suicide. Only Sonic is more spammy. I hope he gets nerfed again somehow, like, make him a midweight or something.
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>>338075763
>>338075763
Samus was NEVER that bad of a character. Don't know why bitches always assumed that.
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Were past updates 61mb in size? New stages? Maybe new character like (Wolf)?
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>>338076548
you don't know her at all.
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>>338077834
you're deluded if you think that, her roll is utterly useless, her combo game weak, projectiles are shit, and she has hard time killing

her grab was also total ass prior to the buffs
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They're adding confirmed Baby Metal Characters

This is now a baby metal thread
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>Tfw Mac
>Tfw everyone thought you were god in the beginning and then they nerfed your recovery, making you completely unviable from that point on
>They will never, ever change it back
>You will always be trash until the very end
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>>338078117
Remember in MK8?

BABY METAL MARIO
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>>338078169
>Tfw everyone thought you were god in the beginning

no one thought this aside from the lowest of garbage players, Sakurai even admitted he had the lowest win rate in FG THEN WENT ON TO NERF HIM HOLY SHIT FAGURAI

I don't even use mac, but that pissed me the fuck off
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>>338078117
What do you think their armpits smell like /v/?
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>>338065876
>1.1.6
>Ness' back throw kills at 60%
>light weight characters killed at 45%
>Everyone on for glory quits their mains and play Ness
>everyone is trying to out back throw each other
>Ness banned from tourneys
>Bayonetta is legal again
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>>338078337
Iron
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>>338078004
>her roll is utterly useless
It's the worst roll of the game, but it's not useless. Besides, there are better options that replace it.

>her combo game weak
Fuck off, mate, her combo game is great.

>projectiles are shit
Her missiles have her uses and are great for gimping. You just don't know how to use them.

>and she has hard time killing
Bair, tech chases, gimping.

>her grab was also total ass prior to the buffs
It is still bad,, but you learn to adapt.

Seriously, this is how you point out someone who doesn't know how to play as her.
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>>338077913
1.1.5 was like twice as big.


We're not getting anymore characters ffs
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>>338069406
Please buff Sonic! The only blue blur that needs a buff! Every other character can go rot in low tier hell.
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>Doesn't auto cancel even though Ness' does
>Weaker than Ness'
>This shitastic hitbox

FIX LUCAS' UP AIR
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>>338078169
Mac was never nerfed he got buffed

What happened is retards stop playing and found out how easy it is to kill him
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>>338074713
>>338069406
>>338078687

Three! Three retards!

Ah ah ah ah ah!
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>>338056223
newfag it's

BUFF DDD
U
F
F

D
D
D
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>>338054680
>the new zelda is taking so long that it is now expected it will come out on NX instead but this has yet to be announced
>we expected to play the last guardian by now because it was supposed to be a ps3 game but expectations have changed and now we are just hoping it will drop before ps5
>nobody expected ff13 versus to be delayed from ps3 to ps4 and turned into an entry in the main series

>>338055197
>>338055357
Yeah they announced a patch is coming with a release date expectation of May. This doesn't change the argument or the point that this date is not confirmed to be May and expected does not mean confirmed.
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>>338077003
>dair spikes on the last hit
>grab not terrible

Maybe someday it'll happen
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>>338079394
It's a 60 MB patch.


That's not even comparable to a game release you dumbass
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>>338078507
>claims samus's missles are good for gimping
>tells me I don't know how to play her

Hahahaha. They're too damn alow to gimp anyone and the recovery frames are so long you can't even do a frame trap with them.
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