![Assassinscreed-4k-1080p-3[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/aIhH145.jpg "Assassinscreed-4k-1080p-3[1].jpg")
Now that the GTX 1080 has shown it can deliver 60 fps at 4K...
What is your excuse for not using 4K?
>>338044428
I plan to
My first PC build will use a the 4K ROG swift
I myself am waiting for 3440x1440 g sync monitors to become more affordable before I upgrade, but it's nice to see actually running it is feasible
Moar pixuhls aren't worth $700
Because then I can't have 100+Hz Freesync on a 4ms IPS panel.
>thinking you'll be able to tell the difference between 1080p and 4k while sitting in a couch
Nicememes.
>>338045741
You can have 4K G-sync IPS though
is the diffrence really that big between 4k and full hd?
Can you really "see" it or is it just "nice to have"
>>338045776
How can you not tell the difference in all the extra screen real estate, moron?
>>338045976
You can definitely tell the difference
Not enough games support it properly yet. I don't want to deal with fuck tiny UI/letterboxes when I'm playing older stuff
>>338045976
It's big. If you have the chance go to a store or turn on dynamic super resolution and try it yourself.
>>338046059
>not enough games support it yet
Literally what? Pretty much every game that's been released in the past 8 years supports it fine
>>338045992
Oh shit, we're talking about desktops. Carry on. I thought we were talking about TVs. Either way, I still think 4K is a meme, at least for vidya and movies.
![maxresdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/zVYdw3S.jpg "maxresdefault[1].jpg")
>>338046128
I mostly play shit released before 2010
>>338045976
Yes, you can see the difference. But still I don't think there is enough content to make the investment.
OT but I'm looking to upgrade my dual SLI GTX660's with something that'll last me the coming 4 years or so.
Would a GTX 950 still do the trick or should I look for soemthing in a higher price class?
Just 1080p obviously no need for 4K stuff.
I'll be getting a 1080 and upgrading to 1440p for a smooth 60.
>single card 60 fps at 4k
Maybe a game released in 2009.
>>338045965
Not a fan of gysync, its just a vsync that actually works, and for fast paced games, 144hz + gysync will always be better. And for that, its 1080 or 2k at the most afaik.
Frame rate has more priority right now. Also, IPS is a marketing term, they are nothing like the accurate IPS monitors of the past, and most of them fail to meet the requirements of IPS. Companies just use it to sell average monitors to you, only distingished enough that they arent shitty TN panels that they used to sell to us.
>>338046569
wait for the 970 price drop after the 1070/80 releases
>>338044428
> Not waiting for Polaris announcement and tests
> Buying the card on release, before they find how exactly nvidia gimped it
You faggot much op?
>>338045671
Im running a 3440x1440 monitor but it only has 60Hz. I kinda wanna get a 120Hz G-sync but I dont feel like buying a new monitor again so soon. Also my 980ti would struggle to get modern games at 120fps so I wopuld also need to buy a new gpu. Maybe when the 1080ti comes out...
video games are not serious business unless you're into esport
I rather spend my money on traveling or lsd while playing games in 1080p
>>338044428
It can't on new games
>people pay the extra money to see some leaves a little more clearly
Kek
I plan to upgrade to the 1080, but I'll have to upgrade my monitor as well. What's the average price range for 4k60/120fps?
>>338046250
yo dawg, we stretched out a 1080P screenshot to 4k resolution!
4k is better but this is misleading. The screenshots should not be cropped.
>1080p isn't HD anymore
But I just bought a 970
>>338046693
Lightboost/ULMB >>>>>>> G-Sync
G-Sync is a gimmick
>IPS is a meme
Just shut the fuck up
I'd rather play 1440p/120fps
I live in Brazil ;_;
>>338046854
>not doing both
Why would I? Most games I enjoy don't even support 4k because it is pixel shit.
>>338046954
>But I just bought a 970
You can still play at 900p before your vram runs out and the game fucks up
>>338046759
970 will never drop, its too iconic, they will rebrand it.
>>338046868
stupendous amount of money is the real issue. This is thousands of dollars worth of shit on top of a thousand dollar gaming PC.
>>338044428
I don't have a display the size of a wall.
>>338046968
IPS=Backlight Bleed
How noticeable is 1080-1440p? Seems much more manageable than 4k
>>338046996
>just came back from the US
>couldn't stay long enough to buy a 1080 for cheap
I guess I won't lose much since I play at 1080p, but still, kinda sad
![4k_vs_1440p[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/NYRWI5F.png "4k_vs_1440p[1].png")
>>338047130
>>338044428
1440p@144hz > 4k@60hz
>>338044428
>1080p screenshot blown up to 4K
>look guys it's ugly
>>338046964
I tried lightboost. It is also a gimmick. 144 hz gets you 95% of the wonderful smoothness, lightboost gets you another 5% of clarity. Its a nice perk, but hardly worth noting.
I havent tried gysync yet, but I imagine eventually Ill buy a monitor with it anyways whether I want to or not simply by buying another high end monitor.
>>338044428
4K doesn't mean shit on a 24" monitor.
>>338047281
All about dat PPI man
I see no reason to.
1080p till I die
>>338047230
You're a fucking retard.
>>338047206
Let the great debate begin! In the blue corner we have resolution fags, in the red corner we have refresh rate fags. Who will prevail in this non epic competition to bore audience to death?
I have a few grand to spare and I'm think of going from xbone to building a 4K PC
Will I notice much of a difference?
>>338044428
Sure
How much will the 1080 cost?
>>338047201
>2560x1600
what a meme resolution
>>338047496
No, console peasants eyes can't see more than 720p and 30fps
>>338047412
frame rate needs advocates. Companies would rather sell us 24hz monitors at 10k so we can watch game of thrones dragged out shitty plot in stunning Ultimate Ultra HD.
>>338047501
$600 and up
But can it run 4k textures at 4k at 60 fps?
>>338046228
I think your mom is a meme, you fucking retarded faggot.
You guys are the worst, grapefags
>Hurr durr there is no difference between...
>...30 and 60fps
>...1080p and 720p
>...120hz and 60hz
>...headsets and headphones
>...DVD and Bluray
>...Cars and Bikes
>...Donkey and Horse
>...Vagina and Dick
>...Pepsi and Cola
>...McDonalds and Burger King
>...Mario and Luigi
>...Skrillex and Vivaldi
>...A Whore and my Mother
>...Android and iPhone
Just kill yourself allready you fucking piece of shit
No matter how you swing it, a GTX 1080 would last you longer if you played games at 1080p compared to if you demanded 4K.
For me, being able to play at high fidelity for a year or two extra is worth more than an upgrade from 1080p to 4K.
>>338047496
you have to want it, study up or go home you tourist.
>>338047270
so wrong
I need to upgrade cpu/mobo/ram first
>>338047270
>I tried lightboost. It is also a gimmick.
>Less motion blur/better motion quality is a gimmick
Commit Sudoku pls
>muh 4k
to play what? bad console ports or cs:goyim?
>>338047850
I could hardly notice the difference is all. Not saying its a placebo. These monitors just already have a mega high refresh rate and millisecond response times. I don't bother with it anymore. At 960 pixels per seconds, you would be hard pressed to notice pixel level blurring.
>>338047850
Reminder that Lightboost isn't perfect though
It completely depends on your Framerate/Hertz Rate/Strobe Rate
I wish Laser Beam Steering Displays(using the technology from Celluon's Laser Projectors) were a thing already since they're practically the new CRT in that they have no persistence blur whatsoever(CRT always have a bit due to phosphor) and that they can multi-sync(no fixed-pixel garbage)
>>338047797
Can already play at high fidelity with 700 series cards.
I'll get a 1080ti, for now it's all about choosing the right display. I can't wait to ascend past 1080p
>>338048373
I'm on a GTX 780 actually and even though it's for the most part still kicking ass, I definitely do have to turn down options in some instances, I don't imagine it's gonna last me more than a year at most.
>>338044428
1080p is plenty enough for the moment, i'll reconsider in a few years.
>>338048039
>>338047850
It's just not worth the sacrifice of contrast and brightness for me. And I only really notice the improvement in 2d sidescrollers, or moving a browser window around.
Full HD is good enough.
Also fuck following every trend the industry wants you to.
>>338048297
http://www.testufo.com/#test=framerates&count=3&background=stars&pps=960
compare strobing on and off. there is a huge difference between 7-8ms and 1-2ms of persistence
>>338044428
Did anyone else get really excited and think that was 4K Donkey Kong Country 2?
![9781ee15d8[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/yKOxBGr.jpg "9781ee15d8[1].jpg")
>60fps
Fucking disgusting, call me when we get 4k/144hz monitors.
>>338048556
>contrast
IPS panels barely have any contrast so you're not losing much
![2015-05-17_00018-100585799-orig[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/u296kev.jpg "2015-05-17_00018-100585799-orig[1].jpg")
![N6xblHL[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/zkR9LPP.jpg "N6xblHL[1].jpg")
>>338048297
>>338048556
Stand in front of a wall with a brick texture.
Strafe.
Watch the wall turn in to mud.
I had forgotten just how bad it was until I got a monitor with blur reduction. Its nice to not have 3 frame long trails behind your characters in fighting games.
>shitting on IPS
did i miss something? what's the freshest display meme?
>>338048738
When will we get Laserscan Monitors?
It's not fair why are we stuck in this LCD Sample-and-Hold Fixed Pixel Nightmare
When will we get our flat successor to the CRT?
Got a 980 which I'm happy with so I'm gunna wait 5 years or so by which time 4k will hopefully be standard fare.
>>338044428
>What is your excuse for not using 4K?
Money. It's always been money.
>>338049234
Ips monitors have awful backlight bleed, all the 144hz screens come with at least 10 dead pixels, the color accuracy is about on par with high end TN panels unless you buy a 1K plus "professional" display. Ips panels have 8+ millescond g2g times, all for slightly better black depth and viewing angles. Do you usually play games with your monitor at a 45 degree angle?
>>338049837
i know IPS isn't exactly good for games and i don't own an IPS monitor, just asking if /g/ finally dropped the IPS meme and moved on to something else
>>338049837
Well I guess I can be considered lucky because mine has very little backlight bleed and no dead pixels.
4K is a joke, when can I get a single GPU capable of handling 5K? 5120x2880 is much better.
>>338047515
Someone tell this guy to eat shit
>>338050168
IGZO
>>338050230
How many did you buy and return before you stuck with that one? Look at amazon reviews for stuff like the rog swift, they usually have to get 3 or 4 to find a good one.
>>338050673
>not using 8k
Im running 3 sli'd 1080's running dwarf fortress at 144 frames pers second at 7680×4320 across 12 4k monitors.
>>338052430
>bezels in the middle of your display
no thanks
that's not even the correct resolution if you were using 12 4K monitors
>>338044428
i'll wait till.
>It's cheaper.
>runs at least 144hz
>low ms.
before then, i dont' give a shit.
>>338052626
Oh, youre one of those.
Nice to know some people can settle for 5k. We cant all have standards so low.
>that's not even the correct resolution
When something better than the 1080 comes out, Ill bump the resolution up to 16k so I can truly appreciate my dwarf fortress.
Cant wait for 4k webms too, fucking 4chan sucks balls.
>>338053142
Yeah, I'm a person with standards
The human eye can't see more than 14.7 million pixels anyway :^)
>not waiting for 1080ti
>>338053365
waitfags are the worst
>>338053467
but its gonna be their real flagship, and if AMD releases gpus this summer that competes with the 1080, we'll see it within the end of the year
>>338054072
Polaris isn't meant to compete with the 1080
It's a low end card that uses less power
>>338054223
oh fuck, I've been rused then
>>338045776
>Sitting on a couch to play PC games
>>338045976
I've seen it and I can definitely tell the difference.
Really not certain as to whether or not I'd use it though.
1440p ultrawide or 4K 16:9?
>>338044428
>>338046250
YO DUDE LET'S JUST COMPARE 1080P TO 720P BUT ADD 4K LOGO TO THE LEFT AND 1080P LOGO TO THE RIGHT
>>338044428
according to the reports, it can only do 4k like 30-40 fps
I intend to play at 60+
![maxresdefault[8].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/2TH5kDc.jpg "maxresdefault[8].jpg")
>>338055134
1080p cuck detected
>>338055134
>he still use a 1080p screen
>*laughing girls*
>>338047130
It's definitely a noticeable improvement. I still haven't used a 4K display yet so can't compare those.
>>338047515
>impyling 16:10 isn't a thousand times better than 16:9
It still angers me that 16:10 lost and is now retardedly expensive because there's no market for them
>>338044428
meh I'll upgrade my monitor when consoles can reliably do 1080p at 60 fps
![37fd56dd58[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/jJEkzXE.jpg "37fd56dd58[1].jpg")
>>338055134
Funny enough there's a larger change in quality between 4k and 1080p compared to 1080p and 720p. 4k and 1080p is more like comparing 1080p and 480p really.
>>338046838
what the fuck is this picture
4k is a meme
>it can deliver 60 fps at 4K
No, actually, it can't. It gets close, averaging over 40 FPS, but it's not there yet.
>>338056525
Depends which game
It can run W3 at 45 fps on ultra 4k
It can run games like BF4 etc well over 60fps at 4k
>>338044428
Because I'm a poorfag and can't buy a $600 video card plus a monitor for 4k support.
>>338056671
Learn how to manage money
>>338056634
You're right. I was thinking of very recent games.
>144Hz is a refresh rate high enough to create realistic motion blur
>People would rather use a screen that forces strobing instead
To what end?
>>338057104
>144hz
>motion blur
>>338057169
What is it?
Before anyone makes a mistake, let me remind you to NOT get a 4k monitor that is 27 inches. A monitor that tiny at that resolution is going to be unreadable without display scaling, which is terrible on Windows. Get a Korean 40" panel if you want glorious 4k without display scaling. I recommend the AMH A409U. 4K at 40" has about the same PPI as a 1440p monitor at 27". 40" is the sweetspot for 4k monitors. You may think it's too big, but I promise you that it isn't. I will never go back to a tiny 27" monitor ever again after using one of these.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CL8V08eomD4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZIeARhLPmg
>>338052430
>dwarf fortress
>144 fps
Yeah until year 2 when there's a million units in the fort
>>338057220
Depending on the quality of the panel, probably a ghosting effect.
>>338046569
Is the Syber Vapor pro a good investment? It's basically the same as one of my build list but it's about $150 more. I just like the living room look.
>>338057749
I know what ghosting looks like, and I know it's know what I'm seeing.
>>338057570
Yeah 40" looks pretty awesome, I like how its the same as having 4 20" 1080p screens.
>>338057878
I don't know what to tell you, then, because I'm running a 144hz monitor and haven't seen what you're calling motion blur in anything where I have it turned off in games.
>>338044428
I'm poor and don't have enough money for a 4k monitor or a gtx 1080.
What games can it do 4K/60 because almost every benchmark shows it doing 4K/30 reliably, but not hitting 60FPS for maxed out games.
Rise of the Tomb Raider, DOOM, Crysis 3... Most newer games, it can't really hit it at reference clock speeds. And even at 2.4GHZ with the OC cards, it still may not.
So correct me if I'm wrong, but what games is it hitting 4K/60? For older games, probably. Maybe. I don't believe FFX-2 can even do that with it's stuttering at even 30FPS at 4K, but that's another issue if it's coded like crap.
Also, if you're running at 4K resolution, is anti-aliasing needed? The higher resolution you go, the less need for it it becomes. Going to 4K is like getting 4xSSAA?
>>338058027
It's totally worth it. It's just big enough to take up most of your vision when sitting close, yet not big enough to make you move your head to see everything on the screen. It's the perfect size for a monitor.
>>338057570
Windows 10 fixed that
>>338057772
>prebuilt
>>338058490
>Also, if you're running at 4K resolution, is anti-aliasing needed?
Not at all. I always have it turned off, and everything is sharp as a tack without it. No jaggies.
I'm able to hit 50-60FPS at 4k with most games on a 970 if I play with the settings a bit. Turn off AA and bump 1 or 2 resource hog settings things down to high or medium, and I can usually get really good smooth gameplay on almost any game.
>>338058490
It get's over 60 fps in ROTTR and Doom and Crysis 3 though you fucking goof
>>338052237
I only returned one.
>>338058773
>3 year warranty
>fully upgradeable
>30 day buy back guarantee
Basically I was looking for a steam machine but this suits what I was looking forward too. It has a better GPU then the alpha.
>>338059434
It's complete shit
No content, no screen, no point.
>>338059093
Man, I really want to move on to a decent memory GPU. My 770 is doing a cracking job thus far. But 2GB is fast becoming untenable.
>>338059960
You don't know much huh
>>338059102
At 4K? None of the benchmarks have shown it hitting over 60FPS for either of those games.
http://arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/2016/05/nvidia-gtx-1080-review/
If you turn down some of the settings, sure you can probably do it. Maxed out? I haven't seen it. Post the benches if true.
>>338046569
Wait for the 1070 that comes out next month. That should handle anything at 1080p with no problems for a very long time.
>>338059667
How? Gtx 950, i5, 8 gbs of ram, and Windows 10 are all good.
Plus it's case can fit in your entertainment system and can support both 4K and VR.
>>338060630
>gtx 950
>vr
>4k
Uh m8...I think you may have been mislead
950 can barely do 1080p
>>338044428
4k for computer monitors is a meme. At 27 inches I cannot see why I would need more than 1440p. There is barely any difference if I put the games down to 1080p for better FPS.
>>338045976
>>338060935
Yes everything is a meme
meme meme meme memememememememememememememememememememememememememememememememememememememememe
>>338045976
Don't listen to retards, it depends on the size of the monitor.
For example on a phone screen you will not see the difference between 720 and 1080p, let alone 1080p and 4k
In the 20 - 30 inch range it remains a meme. At 32 inch 1440p is fine but you can see a slight difference between it and 4k, and the higher you go from there the more 4k matters.
4k looks very good even at very high sizes like 50-60 inches whereas 1080p looks like shit at that size (ignoring distance from monitor, which also matters.)
>>338061054
>>338058667
No it didn't. I have Windows 10 and the display scaling is still terrible.
>mfw 16/10 is dead as fuck.
>>338061280
Yes it did
>>338061190
>>338061083
Ok, fair, let me actually articulate myself.
4k for computer monitors is a scam. It is a ploy to get you to spend more money on something you do not need simply because the numbers are higher.
At 20 inch resolutions you do not need that much pixels because it will make such a negligible visual difference almost all derived effects will be placebo.
If you are getting a large display, 4k makes sense, but most people do not have 40 inch computer monitors therefore it is irrelevant to most consumers.
Is that better?
>>338044428
Where has it shown anything higher than 45fps at 4k?
>>338061054
>>338061190
>>338061426
What is this meant to prove
You'd need a 1080p, 1440p and 4K monitor to compare them
>>338061112
There is a big difference between 720p and 1080p on a phone screen. Having more pixels per inch creates a sharper image with less aliasing.
>>338060853
http://www.sybergaming.com/products/v-series-pro.aspx#more-spec
>>338062027
Yeah you won't be able to play 4k or VR with that
Oculus even has the absolute minimum on their site, gtx 970.
>>338061821
I have a 5.3 inch screen that is 720p. I cannot see individual pixels. A 1080p screen at this size would be pointless.
For something like those large galaxy phones you might get a slight benefit out of the sharpness increase but at this size it's entirely pointless.
Yes, technically it will be sharper but that doesn't mean the information going into your eye will perceive it as such.
>>338062027
You'll be able to do 4K at 60hz on the desktop just fine, but you won't get good framerates in game at 4k or on VR with that card.
>>338060935
>27 inches
There's your problem.
>>338062270
I'm not actually into VR but just saying if it does become a thing atleast I'll be ready. And true no 4K gaming but just 4K media. I noticed the product page says 950 but when you click on more specs it says 960. But good news is it can support a full size GPU and up to 3 hard drives.
>>338055273
depends on the game, with non founders expanding its powerdraw and 2way SLI it shouldnt have a problem with current games
>>338062917
Uh no you won't be ready you fucking idiot
What don't you understand
That card cannot run VR games or 4K games
>>338045976
>have 4k for nearly 2 years now
>tell people how much of a difference in quality it is
>they all just say its a meme
>now they hop on the band wagon
Every fucking time...
>>338062917
That card will output 4K at 60HZ over display port, so it will be fine for watching 4k movies, but it won't get playable frame rates in most games at 4k. You can probably play older games like Vanilla WoW or Psychonauts at 4k, however.
>>338044428
Why is 4k not actually 4k like 1080?
>>338046645
>upgrading to a middleman resolution
cuckadoodledoo
>>338063435
There are two standards
4k, and UHD 4k.
Most use UHD 4k as it is the consumer standard.
>>338045681
This
>>338044428
Because 1080p144 >>>> MemeK
>>338063879
1440p 96 fps is all you really need tbqh senpai
>>338047201
>DVD quality is literally stamp size now
I wonder if in 15 years 4k will be that small.
>>338063724
I'm more excited about HEVC than 4k.
Seriously, i'm amazed by how good it looks at fucking low ass files sizes. I'll check the file sizes and expect YIFFY blocky bullshit and it just looks great.
>>338064050
I'd take a good IPS that only went up to 96, fuck 3:2 pulldown. But 144 is pretty fucking great.
>>338064231
that picture isn't to scale at all
>>338044428
I prefer 1080p @144Hz over 4k @60Hz
>>338062746
AT2020 represent
>>338044428
>tfw half of /v/ is full of fat neckbeards that live on autism bucks, isolated in their moms basement.
>tfw the other half is underage shitters with a rich family
I hate every single one of you.
I'm at 1080 on a 780ti.
Will probably upgrade to 1080ti and play at 2560x1440. Makes the card last longer and will be a good upgrade for me either way.
>>338044428
Am fine with 1080p and I don't want to be burning any money just yet.
>>338065483
Yes everyone who has better things than you is underage with rich parents and everyone with worse things is an autistic fact NEET
>>338044428
i doubt it. it will probably run new games at 4k sub 30 with constant crashing because of all the shit ports these days.
>>338044428
>buying the 80 version of an nvidia card instead of waiting for the TI version.
when will you faggots learn?
