When did people even start obssessing over age in vidya?
Nobody cared when it was just a nerd thing if a character was 11 or twelve.
What changed?
>>338043350
normies start thinking they are allowed to enjoy video games.
that bell on her neck is just weird.
I want to ______ Marie
graphics changed. When games look this good and there are clearly under aged girls getting put in next to nothing clothing people are gonna freak out.
>>338043508
>>338043415
These honestly.
>>338043350
>>338043620
That's a character specifically created as pedobait to target the pedophile audience though.
>>338043762
In other words, put the lolis in the retro-style games with primitive graphics.
>>338043943
it will have to be at least ps1 era graphics or even pixelated if you don't want all the parents to freak out. but that would obviously ruin the point
>>338043350
Because now those 11-12 year old characters are sexualized and are made to attract pedophiles.
>>338043350
>"We are a Japanese developer, and we're making the female characters with our common sense and our creative sense. When you take that to countries outside of Japan, it tends to be very misinterpreted in some cases, people considering it sexist or derogatory, etc. For us, within our culture, we're showing women like that, and we're trying to make them look attractive. We can't help if other cultures in other countries around the globe think that it's a bad representation. Within our nationality and within our national borders, we obviously have morals that we create our female characters from, but within our Japanese sensibilities, we've made those characters the way they are and we're not going to stop doing that."
-head of team ninja, 2012 (pre-GG)
>"We do not bring DOAX3 to the west and won't have any plan change in the future. Thank you for asking. Do you know many issues happening in video game industry with regard to how to treat female in video game industry? We do not want to talk those things here. But certainly we have gone through in last year or two to come to our decision. Thank you."
- DOAX3 dev, 2015 (post-GG)
>>338044147
Drawn 2-D cutscenes.
>>338044298
Japan recognizes fictional characters as being actually fictional.
>>338043620
be
>>338043350
real question is when did Nintendo started obsessing over age in video games?
>>338043350
we got do the GG route
make adult characters that are in fact children
nobody gives a shit about dizzy
she is 5
everybody lose their shit about Marie
>>338043939
actually marie is a legally aged blatantly japanese character who was just labeled as swedish by the devs as a big "fuck you" to Sweden for banning the game there.
I don't think they expected her to EXPLODE in popularity the way she did.
so no she was not made to "target the pedophile audience" because a pedophile, by definition, would have no interest in Marie (about 8 years too old and definitely too mature physically)
she's just a fucking gag character that was mocking sweden's medieval attitude towards DOA, and became popular because she is the only non-titty monster in the game
>>338044702
correction she was 3, now she is 8
>>338044612
But anon, have you seen how she dresses and heard what she supposedly does with certain types of men?
>>338044676
Now that's a good one. As recently as the Wii Nintendo was pushing exclusives like Metroid Prime and being fine with 3rd party stuff like Madworld. But with the Wii U, which was meant to focus back on the core demographic, they've been trying to keep their image cleaner than ever.
>>338044612
Young Zelda is better as a character design.
Balanced.
>>338044852
>This much make believe to act as self reassurance
>>338045209
Not a single thing I said was wrong.
>>338045278
then show me the developer statement
>>338045209
They've been censoring the ages of DOA characters out of fear of "moral backlash" for years anyway, all 4 of the original games censored the ages for Kasumi, Ayane. Kokoro and even Eliot
>>338044149
>going into moral outrage over drawings and 3d models
Literally idiots. And normalfags.
>>338043943
>>338045384
>wahh spoonfeed me or you're wrong
Do your own fucking research faggot, your ignorance ain't my problem.
>>338044852
>to Sweden for banning the game there
Fun fact; It was never banned.
>>338044458
Of course they do, they aren't stupid.
Remember when the UN started sperging out and telling Japan to ban all 2D anime tiddies because muh sexualization, and an important woman from Japan told them to piss off and focus on real women instead?
>>338045752
http://www.neoseeker.com/news/16498-dead-or-alive-dimensions-banned-in-sweden-on-account-of-child-pornography-laws/
are you fucking serious dude
a 3 second google search
>>338045752
http://www.nintendolife.com/forums/3ds/dead_or_alive_dimensions_banned_in_sweden_norway_and_denmark
>>338045752
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-05-20-nordic-dead-or-alive-release-ruined
>>338045404
because they weren't meant to be pedobait, and thus a proper cultural compromise was found.
>>338045554
Now this is appropriate response, to something non existing but i want it as alibi reassurance.
>>338043350
Normies obsessing over every little thing to feel like they are somehow making the world better by going after video games.
>>338045921
>>338046018
It was never banned. The local distributor got cold feet because of a legal case going on at the time. You could still buy the game from swedish online stores like Webhallen. Also loli is legalhere.
>>338043350
>When did people even start obssessing over age in vidya?
When video games stopped being a niche market made for a niche audience.
All the people calling gamers "losers" back in the day, are playing video games now. But of course they still need to distinguish themselves somehow, so they try to form the market in their own way.
We've come full circle again.
>>338046261
>The local distributor got cold feet because of a legal case going on at the time.
uh no, it's because of their fucking child porn laws and kasumi being underage
>>338045758
>media portrayals of individuals and groups don't introduce/reinforce opinions that can be carried away from said media
>>338043350
>When did people even start obssessing over age in vidya?
>noticing is obsessing
If I saw you looking at gay pornography, my first thought would be that you're gay or otherwise want to have sex with someone of the same gender. Pedophilia is both illegal and looked down upon. Connect the dots.
>What changed?
Nothing changed. This has been a thing ever since society at large started paying attention to gaming. It wasn't a case of nobody caring, it was a case of nobody knowing.
>>338046343
>All the people calling gamers "losers" back in the day, are playing video games now.
no they are still calling gamers losers now, but in between trashing those people on twitter they will indulge in some angry birds or bejeweled and then call themselves an important part of the industry.
>people in this thread shitting on marie who don't know anything about gothic lolita culture
>>338046469
>media portrayals of individuals and groups don't introduce/reinforce opinions that can be carried away from said media
If you seriously start molesting women on the train because you saw it being done in an h-doujin one time, then I think the problem lies less in said h-doujin and more in you.
>>338046469
how is the OP topic connected to gay porn and/or pedophilia? Shit analogy.
>>338046701
Drawn 2-D loli will always be better than CGI 3-D loli.
>>338046469
>Pedophilia is both illegal
Unless you start using the proper terms, no one is going to take you seriously.
Hint: Pedophilia is not illegal.
>>338046469
>If I saw you looking at gay pornography, my first thought would be that you're gay or otherwise want to have sex with someone of the same gender. Pedophilia is both illegal and looked down upon. Connect the dots.
You know what, you're absolutely right. We should also start imprisoning people depicting rape and genocide in literature or any medium, since incriminating thoughts basically make you a criminal.
>>338046469
Pixels aren't real and don't age.
>>338046469
Attraction to Marie would actually be considered Ephebophilia, the attraction to teenagers.
>>338047001
The concept of the "Thought Crime" is extraordinarily dangerous.
You criminalize thoughts, you can lock up anyone.
>>338047001
>We should also start imprisoning people depicting rape and genocide in literature
The terrifying thing is that this isn't even an uncommon opinion. There are plenty of people who do seriously think rape should never be discussed (or even acknowledged) in any form through media (likely the same people who claim "men can't be raped")
>>338047327
I mean, a good amount of women love the thrill of rape porn. Doesn't mean they want to be raped.
>>338046658
Media doesn't literally make you do the things you see in it and you're looking for an excuse to jump to conclusions if that's how you read it. Read enough molestation doujins as your primary example of social interaction with women, though, and you're very likely to start looking at them more as objects than you would otherwise.
>>338046790
>Connect the dots.
If you seriously need to be spoonfed that showing interest in a product that prominently features something infers interest in that thing or the link between sexualizing a minor and pedophilia then I'm pretty sure it's not the analogy that's shit.
>>338047327
And this is when political correctness threatens to become a form of Totalitarianism.
The seeds are there.
>>338043939
>characters without J-cup tits are pedobait
lol k
>>338047407
Hell, "Fifty Shades" was so unbelievably popular that it got a full theatrical release-- despite literally being softcore S&M porn!
>>338047001
There's a huge difference between simply depicting events and glorifying them.
>>338047483
>If you seriously need to be spoonfed that showing interest in a product that prominently features something infers interest in that thing or the link between sexualizing a minor and pedophilia then I'm pretty sure it's not the analogy that's shit.
marie is not a minor. she doesn't even fucking look like a minor (hint: short adult women do exist retard).
at worst liking marie would mean you are attracted to teenage girls (which you can still say is weird, although it is not even remotely as serious an accusation as calling someone a pedophile)
>>338047509
We're already moving there, feminist media is asking for AVGN's head on a pike just for making a video saying "as a fan of ghostbusters i am not interested in the new film and i won't bother reviewing it"
that totalitarianism is already fucking happening
>>338047773
it's not even weird. Men have always been attracted to young women in the ephebo range.
>>338047571
Isn't a lot of he rapey manga made for and sold to women in Japan?
>>338047887
i think shitposters on /v/ just see DOA threads as prime romping grounds to post smug, "morally superior" arguments about how marie is for pedos, ignoring the decades of schoolgirl-themed porn that already exists, that everyone in this thread has almost certainly jerked off to at least once in their lives
>>338047869
Which is why the tyranny of the SJW must be opposed, invariably, everywhere.
We must fight this growing Orwellian Double-Speak Totalitarianism.
>>338047962
Yes, Japanese women also loved Dead or Alive back in the day, because the girls were never portrayed as "damsels in distress"
>>338048040
I definitely have jerked it to Marie but she is clearly pedo b8 m8
>>338046701
I'd like this if it was less realistic.
>>338043350
>When did people even start obssessing over age in vidya?
Why are you fags acting like this shit is new? Eroges from the 90s would take a clearly underaged girls and slap 18 on age and call it a day.
>>338048190
Then what is student-teacher porn? Is that all automatically pedobait too? I mean, if you are watching a porn actress dress up as an underage schoolgirl and fuck her adult teacher, that's exactly the same shit
>>338047483
>Read enough molestation doujins as your primary example of social interaction with women, though, and you're very likely to start looking at them more as objects than you would otherwise.
That doesn't make any sense and I doubt you have any sort of scientific research to back it up.
>>338047569
"classic /v/" was just crossposters from /a/. now /a/ has retreated into their board and won't leave, leaving only the ultra-insecure people of the post-gamergate world
>>338048190
Americans on /v/ are so retarded.
>>338048486
You mean the ones where the lolis all inexplicably use cocaine?
I'm pretty sure people can tell the difference between fantasy and reality.
>>338048486
>scientific research
>coming from anti-marie shitposters
you are trying to draw blood from a stone, man
>>338048396
So it's pedo b8 then.
>>338048756
if you consider student-teacher as a fetish to be pedobait then i have to wonder how your brain receives any oxygen with such a dense skull surrounding it
>>338043350
What is she looking at that is giving her a boner?
>>338043350
since the liberal jew kike western govts think they have to control everything in the universe
>>338049273
My boner.
She's establishing her dominance.
>>338047657
I agree, but you should be able to glorify whatever the fuck you want on paper, and I should be able to call you out on your bullshit when you do. You still need people to decide what constitutes a "dissenting idea" that shouldn't be glorified.
Obviously, it's a lot more complex than this and I'm exaggerating, since (e.g.) glorifying war in history textbooks seems like a bad idea. But I'd rather not give up the right to defend any argument, however immoral, on paper.Also, I'm not gonna make a fucking 5-paragraph rebuttal on /v/ when I could be playing DS3.
"Wah, why don't people like blatant pedobait"
>>338047106
isn't that true for like all the doa girls, i thought they were mostly teenage girls
>>338043620
Tits too big.
>>338049373
>blaming liberals when banning sex-related things is a known conservative thing
God fucking damn /v/ is retarded, and I say this as a conservative.
![2f1a9e0f2366f58cf1e4246973a73b6d[2].png](https://i.imgur.com/kgiAUnP.jpg "2f1a9e0f2366f58cf1e4246973a73b6d[2].png")
When normies became waifufags and started thinking that drawings are sentient beings they must defend.
>>338043939
>character has flat chest
>hurr durr derpa derppy derp its pedo!! :^)
please fuck off.
>>338049979
Only a handful of them were ever underage.
Kasumi, Ayane, Eliot, and Kokoro are the only underage characters in DOA, although as of DOA5 they've all probably crossed into legal age
>>338050153
No but see, short women and flat adult women don't exist!! if your girlfriend is 25 and has no tits you're still a pedo who is just "substituting", duh!
no it doesn't have to make sense, i am right and reality is wrong! i'm morally in the right for narrowing the perception of sexual beauty down to just TNA!!!!!!!!!!
>>338044298
"we dont deal with dumb bullshit" japan 2015
>>338043620
be protected by
Honestly if it's fictional, why the angst?
Shut up and fap.
>>338050145
you're a scumbag if you wouldn't defend your waifu's honor
>>338046701
>>338050451
their attitude was the same before in 2012, they just weren't acting like they got their balls removed like they are now.
and then you see all the retards who commented on articles about the game not coming overseas, saying "Well these games probably never sold here anyway right??" despite a 5 second google search showing it sold more in america than japan in the first place
>>338043508
>>338043415
Answered in the first two posts.
Look at the game of thrones books and tv show if you want proof.
Books
>all the main characters are under 14
Show
>everyone is 16 or older
>>338050095
You'd be surprised how butthurt SJWs and feminists get over sex nowadays.
Muh "sexual objectication".
>>338049826
They should use some of their money they earn working and buy themselves some better taste.
>>338050598
b-but muh moral superiority ;_;
>>338050759
it also wouldn't surprise me if incest actually spiked as a fetish when game of thrones first came out, ironically
>"she's 1000 years old so it's ok"
>>338050095
we are moving rapidly towards a heavily sex-negative future in america, the left is devouring itself and the right is equally fucked
there are no good guys left in politics.
>>338051083
It's not real, therefore you can jack off to it.
Fiction is fiction.
>draw a 10 year old, say they're 20
>draw a 20 year old, say they're 10
Which is worse?
>>338051509
NoA deemed Nowi acceptable to fuck and marry in Awakening back before GG-- if Nowi were in Fates she would have been censored to hell
>>338051658
Neither should be.
But probably both are.
>>338051616
I agree, and I wish the law did everywhere as well.
>>338051658
they are both lazy from a design standpoint, honestly.
>>338051542
We must form a pro-porn party to combat their combined tyranny.
No one takes away our porn.
>>338051509
>"she's fictional so it's ok"
FTFY
>>338051658
the one that looks like 20 year old
>>338051871
As opposed to what?
>>338051509
>she's over the age of consent more than 10 times
>IF I IMPLY IT'S NOT OKAY, THEN IT'S NOT OKAY DAMN IT
>>338046469
kill yourself
pedophilia isn't wrong because it's immoral, it's wrong because it's a symptom of having shit taste
>>338051828
Any nation that confuses fictional porn for reality is being laughable. It's just left-wing SJW nonsense or right-wing moral outrage masquerading as policy.
I pity the countries that can't enjoy loli.
>>338051972
well if you're drawing a grown adult and saying theyre a loli then you might just not be very good at drawing lolis
drawing a loli (like blatantly a child under 13 physically) and saying theyre an adult is lazy because it means you want a childish adult character but can't capably write an actual adult with childish qualities, so you just visually make them a loli and handwave their age
>>338052147
Look at this faggotron.
I bet he likes it when women have big tits.
>>338051509
Actually it is. Not to mention she's also fictional so, yeah.
>>338052147
its wrong because we live in a society that has many opportunities for women, other than bearing children
>>338052162
It's even sillier when those countries allow ultraviolent content at the same time.
>>338052283
>>338052481
like being in the kitchen
>>338052481
Like making me a sandwich?
>>338052147
The reason pedophilia is wrong is because it hurts the child's development process. And we are talking real children here. That's it. Full stop.
If there is no victim (i.e. the child is digital) it is not wrong, just another fetish. And don't fucking start ranting about how it's "disgusting"or "morally reprehensible" – I find transsexuals with manfaces disgusting, but I don't dare to suggest we ban 'em for that reason.
Normal are too fucking dumb to make difference between fiction and reality (this why they always use their real name and show their faces as pp).
So when they see a character like Marie they are afraid to be attracted by it and for their own sanity they automatically reject it by fear to become a "pedophil".
>>338052731
>The reason pedophilia is wrong is because it hurts the child's development process.
It doesn't.
The way the Left and Right are moving, it's only a matter of time before they try to abolish all porn.
>>338044298
Pretty sure that 2nd quote was said by TK to not b representing their own words and was just some facebook mongrel.
>>338052481
like starring in a porno?
By asians look like that you fucking american retarded idiots. She's over 18 year old
>>338053079
>By asians look like that you fucking american retarded idiots
Uh huh.
>>338053079
Daily reminder that if it bleeds it breeds
Anything else is feminist cuckery
This is objective fact.
>>338052802
Then why is it so harshly reprehended?
>>338053079
>over 18-years-old girl
>doesn't look like a washed-up, loose slut in her 40s
Literally impossible according to America.
>>338053217
Jewish conspiracy
>>338053307
Oh, my bad.
>>338048963
Relax bro it an image board, you can still do whatever you like with your little sister.
Fucking pedo.
>>338053217
People assume that it does, and in the end that's all that really matters.
>>338052481
Every western doa girl is a highly successful alpha femaleexcept for Marie since she's a pedobait.
>>338053217
People in power would rather punish that which they do not understand than try to understand it.
Same reason why incest is still banned in most places, even if it is between consenting adults. Some people find incest disgusting, and can't accept that there can be people like that, so they ban it outright.
Same reason why possession (and I want to stress: "possession") of CP is still banned when there's scientific proof out there that making it legal has a positive effect on child abuse rates (read: they reduce them).
>>338052731
>The reason pedophilia is wrong is because it hurts the child's development process
pedophilia isn't molestation.
>>338053684
>Marie since she's a pedobait.
another american idiot
>>338053731
Sources?
>>338053079
If you're going to accuse people of being retarded, you should at least try to form coherent sentences.
>>338053649
Technically not every pedophile acts on their urges, anymore than every pyschopath or sociopath does. But you only hear about the ones that do.
There is so much of a social stigma that there is no incentive for said individuals to admit they have said urges.
It's self-reinforcing. The stigma can't help but grow because society only hears about the individuals who acted on said impulses.
I'm not advocating in favor of legalization, just common sense. You cannot have policy dictated by hysteria and paranoia.
>>338053931
http://www.springer.com/about+springer/media/springer+select?SGWID=0-11001-6-1042321-0
Moving away from children for a bit, if you do further research and see the effect on sexual abuse that the availability of porn has, you'd find similar results: Available porn, less sexual abuse.
>>338054258
you should stop being a cuck faggot
>>338054296
TDLR: in other words, find the dangerous individuals in said respective groups. The ones who will act on their urges.
>>338054375
How am I?
Marie is A+++I prefer Momiji tho
>>338043350
playstation opened the gates to normies by making gaming casual and cool
>>338053217
because a 12 year old can't financially support herself or her child.
For younger children it's because most often they were raped instead of sexed.
>children can't consent
Children know when something is fun and when something hurts. They also masturbate like crazy until their parents tell them to knock it off.
>>338053079
>>338053815
Who is this mattress actress
>>338050717
it's one thing to defend her honor as character, it's another to pretend she has an age
honestly its the nerd culture thinking normies to think, yeah bro im a gamer. then get offended over japanese games on japanese board
>>338054601
>because a 12 year old can't financially support herself or her child.
And in those cases you could do the same than when it happens to adult: You find the missing parent and arrest them on charges of being a shithead and siphon half their money towards the one that actually gives a shit.
>>338054601
>because a 12 year old can't financially support herself or her child.
but at the same time 12 year old can easly end up in the jail or be vanned or killed by american police
american hypocrite
>>338043350
Normies get uncomfortable when they see something lewd and their first instinct is to ask the age of the lewd character. And then they think their arbitrary laws in the real world should affect a fictional world as well. Because dragons constantly burning down villages and eating people is okay but a 16 year old in a skirt is over the line.
>>338054841
that's a super puffy vulva
>all these normalfags triggered by Marie
>she's not even a real loli
Jesus Christ this place is reaching tumblr level of trash.
>>338055242
literally no one is being triggered
>>338043350
Video games are movie levels of popular now, meaning the Hollywood types are now involved. They actually give a shit. Also, normal people like video games now, meaning when you get a twelve-year-old girl doing lewd things, they freak out when they confirm that she is underage. It's literally Hollywood and normal people's faults.
>>338055242
>this place
Only a few obvious trolls in this thread.
Holy shit, cry wolf won't you
>>338055108
MODSmore/sauce?
>>338051969
Sauce?
>>338054601
I don't think consent is just "yes I want this". I think it's more like "yes, I want this, and I am fully aware of the consequences both now and I the future and am willing and able to handle them".
>>338055312
Hence why normies are awful people and shouldn't be pandered to with this kind of thing.
>>338055435
Then the age of consent should be 25-28.
>>338055435
>I don't think consent is just "yes I want this".
Uh, yes?
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/consent
>implying you wouldn't hit this
Even normalfags consider you cucks.
>>338054296
Pretty much this.
I'm a pedo but I've never acted on urges.
I'd honestly love to get help for it but it's normal for therapists or whatever to turn in people like me, even if we've done nothing and want to get over it.
It's easier to just keep quiet and don't be stupid about your thoughts.
>>338055435
By that logic, age of consent should be raised to the mid 20s.
18 is such a random age for that to be at. Why 18? They're still teenagers at that age.
>>338055574
Yes, but there are also more normal people than there are of us folks that don't give a fuck about a fictional character's age and just want to see a cute girl doing cute or lewd things, which means normal people give the companies more money. As such, the companies are going to cater to their income more than their fans, because money is more important to them.
I miss at least feeling that video game companies were this magical group of entities dedicated to making new and exciting things that we had never seen before like when I was young.
I want Marie to fart in my face.
>>338055867
That is unfortunately true. Shit gets more expensive to make and they have to cater to the people who will give them the big money. It's sad.
>>338055867
Normal people don't buy titty fanservice games. They get enough pussy as it is. Games like DoAX3 rely on a niche, not the mainstream.
>>338055848
There IS no logic in it.
If it was logical, it'd be either the average age where puberty hits (12 or 13) or the aveage age where people's brains finish developing (24, 25).
>>338055770
>Turned in for no crime
Legally you could then sue for gross violation of due process, minimum.
>>338055614
>>338055638
>>338055848
Fine, then it's more like understanding the consequences of your actions (or at least thinking you do, because I guarantee you most people don't) and deciding you want it anyway.
>>338055730
>>338056058
And have my name and info put out there for Facebook plebs to judge me even without knowing anything about me? No thanks. I'll keep it with me until I'm dead, or at least until people get more common sense.
>>338056058
>law being on the pedo's side
>>338056072
That's a different concept from "consent" altogether. That's like "foresight" or something.
But let's say what you said it's correct. Then what the other anon said in the other post would also be correct.
>>338056072
Then it should be when average puberty hits, which is roughly 14-16.
I always figure the age of 16 is fine. Since it's when a lot of puberty is finishing and they're still physically developed.
>>338056259
The legal case still wouldn't hold water. You can't even argue means, motive, opportunity without an actual crime.
Easiest lawsuit ever.
in germany, there are educational children's books that teach them to put their finger in their butts and engage in homosexuality. kikes need to be removed
People who try to apply real world laws on fictional media need to be put into insane asylums.
>that guy just totally ignored that red traffic light in gta, arrest him!
>>338056342
There would have to be a proven scientific basis for the age of consent to be lowered.
Policy must be dictated by actual facts.
>>338056752
Scientific basis for what?
Plus I don't remember ever being any scientific anything when it was raised from 13 (puberty) to 18 (the first number they saw on the nearest newspaper cover).
>>338056072
You under estimate 8 year olds. They might not be as well informed but they know when they do something there's going to be a consequence. They know what they're doing when they bully. They often call out adults on their hypocrisy too. But adults write them off because, "they're just children." Then they go to say, "back when I was a kid..."
>>338055770
Non exclusive """pedo""" here.
I'm usually attracted to girls 8-12 but am also attracted to anyone 35.
I'm mostly attracted to young supple teens and tweens, and society just demonizes it even through its normal. Since birth you are brainwashed into believing that you can't be attracted to kids, but it's normal to be.
It's not normal to be exclusively attracted but that does not mean we should treat them bad.
From my experience, kids and teens consent the same as adults, and sure as hell feel better.
>>338056752
What's the scientific basis for 18 then? A girl can be a cock hungry slut at 17, be 18 the next day and still be cock hungry, but it'd be perfectly fine because some government law says so. Besides, any case involving lowering that age would cause people to go into an outrage and it wouldn't be able to happen.
>>338057012
Raising the age of consent is one thing.
Lowering it is another entirely. There has to be factual evidence behind it.
You don't just go, "Let's drop it from 18 to 16 for funsies."
>>338057074
>You under estimate 8 year olds
Oh god, I did. A 9 year old pretty much helped me become a pedo. It was a very weird experience.
>>338057154
They can consent equally, but the main basis is "they're not developed in the brain yet!" Which is dumb because technically, 18 year olds aren't either.
>>338057154
reported to the fbi
>>338057312
How? How does one need science and the other is just "oh sure go ahead!"? There's hardly any difference between fucking a 16 year old and fucking an 18 year old.
>>338043350
Because our video games are at risk because of you now
>>338057312
Again, factual evidence of what?
And how is it one can be for funsies and other one can't?
>>338057567
Except one is legal age (and not in all states) and the other is not.
That's difference enough.
>>338057450
As long as they can say yes and truely want it there is no problem.
Biologically it's ok to have sex with as young as 10.
Society is the only thing stopping it, yet all the science is there to support otherwise.
Still won't stop the love though <3
>>338057512
Ok good luck
>>338057774
Are you retarded? Did you just completely forget what this subject was about?
>>338057584
That image doesn't make sense.
>>338057958
"There's hardly any difference between fucking a 16 year old and fucking an 18 year old."
Yeah sure. Keep telling yourself that.
>>338058240
You got any evidence for the contrary? Because there's hardly any difference.
>>338043350
>What changed?
Mainstream -> cancer appears: >>338043415
It's just that simple.
>>338046469
The sjw patrol always in time. There is a new ghostbuster trailer, btw.
>>338047483
>Read enough molestation doujins as your primary example of social interaction with women, though, and you're very likely to start looking at them more as objects than you would otherwise.
Just like violence and videogames, right Jack?
>>338043415
>>338059510
How do we chemo, my fellow degenerates?
It is clear that we are outnumbered.
>>338043350
People only cared when it started preventing games from coming here thanks to triggered people.
Nobody really cared until the normies got involved.
>>338059821
Not even videogames but media as a whole there's more violence being presented to us. Murder rates are double what they were in the let's say 60s 70s~
>>338051658
neither is because drawings aren't illegal
>>338060602
Say that to the Japanese guy who made 3D loli who got arrested recently, there's discussion on /h/ about it i think
>>338053731
The thing about cp though is that the production IS abuse, which the possession (and consumption) is made illegal for
>>338047773
>she doesn't look like a minor
I don't give a shit about moralfagging and all that jazz, but you are seriously deluded if you think she doesn't look like a middle schooler.
>>338060734
not illegal in countries with sensible laws*
obviously i'm not talking about shit that goes on outside of US, japanese laws are fucking retarded and need to be changed anyways
>>338060981
>but you are seriously deluded
yeah okay dude, kids are fucking gross, if marie was actually 13 or looked like actual 13 year old girls i'd have no interest in her whatsoever
it's because she is an adult with youthful qualities that i am attracted to her.
>>338060539
That's the point. Devs got well known and respected for not giving a fuck.
Now they're big enough but they spit in the faces of their fans.
>>338060804
>The thing about cp though is that the production IS abuse
That's debatable.
That aside, what are you trying to argue? That the ban makes sense? No it doesn't.
1) There's scientific research posted in this very thread that states that the availability of CP lowers child abuse rates.
2) Possession has fuck-all to do with production to start with. Me holding a bunch of data doesn't equate to anything outside my computer. If you're so concerned with the children, then why go for the people holding CP? Why not let them do whatever (as long as they don't harm anyone) and focus on going for the people actually /making/ CP?
>being historically inaccurate and/or possessing fictional material is illegal in your """country"""
>>338061757
i'm not arguing anything, that was my first post in the thread
>>338043350
>When did people even start obssessing over age in vidya?
Normie happened.
They need that fictional CGI people need age.
>>338061842
>"""
Why?
Reply to this post with a loli or you're a cuck
>>338063332
>can't make use of their titties before 12
>>338063332
It does have to be a game tought, right?
>>338063332
>>338063579
>>338064217
>Marie
>loli
>>338063332
![[HorribleSubs] Pan de Peace! - 02 [720p].mkv_snapshot_02.57_[2016.04.10_18.30.23]_stitch.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/KJDnP1m.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Pan de Peace! - 02 [720p].mkv_snapshot_02.57_[2016.04.10_18.30.23]_stitch.jpg")
>>338064580
>>338064468
I don't have a "what the fuck is this shit"-faced loli pic, so that one had to do.
>>338064879
>loli
>>338046701
Marie is pedo bait and nothing else.
She in a semi-realistic fighting game. The entire cast is 2-5x her size. She's not some magically girl ninja super solider. So she'd get destroyed by any of the trained fighters.
Textboook case of pandering.
>>338061248
>>338066172
>laughing at someone else's perception being different despite that literally being the point of individual thought
so you're proud of your personal conformity?
It doesn't matter how old a character is.
If you're attracted to them because they look like a child, you ARE a pedophile.
>>338066894
Tell me, what's the difference between a 16 year old female fictional character and an 21 year old female fictional character without mentioning the age. Pro tip: You can't
>>338043350
fucking american puritans
>>338067695
In most countries the offical criteria is "if a jury of normies think it's a kid", ie you could never go to court and argue Etna isn't a kid for example.
>>338053079
>tfw no qt 12 year old cosplaiyng Maria Rose
Marie is literally perfect.
>>338071182
This.
