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Can someone please explain why this game is shit?

As in, why it's consolized garbage, things with tick rate.

Why is it inferior to other PC FPS games?

Thank you.
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>>338039239
It feels like a native PC game. If anything, its a PC port to consoles.
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>>338039239
its made for console.
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The game is bad because it's just TF2 with a lot of improvements. Yeah, Overwatch's medic is way less frustrating to play than TF2's due to the added utility skills, but TF2 is free.
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>>338039363
Then why does it have 60 FOV locked with guns over 1/3 of your screen?

>>338039529
I'm looking for a more detailed info.

If you have any infographics please do share.
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>>338039659
>game is bad because its TF2 but better
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>>338039659
>Overwatch's medic is way less frustrating to play than TF2's
>TF2 is free
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>>338039759
But it isn't 60 fov locked?
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>>338039759
>Then why does it have 60 FOV locked with guns over 1/3 of your screen?

But it doesn't.
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>>338040219
Why buy food at a supermarket or restaurant when the soup kitchen is free?
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>>338039239
It isn't. It's a great game.
I want to play it again.
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>>338039659
Oops, meant to quote this guy. >>338040487
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>>338039239
too much viral marketing.
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>>338039239
Someone last night told me that the game runs at 60 tickrate, but had no evidence to back that statement up with.

I played the open beta and it was a gigantic mess. The world/art direction/graphics/overall feel to the game was fucking amazing, I liked all of that. But the balancing is a joke, pressing Q to earn play of the game is actually a thing, and you can frequently get shot "through" objects because the other player saw you as standing still thanks to 20tick.

I'll still masturbate furiously to it though.
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>>338039759
>I'm looking for a more detailed info.
No you're not, you're looking to start a shitposting thread.
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>>338039759
Why do u care so much, just enjoy and have fun

These whole things are made to make people happy
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>>338040487

because you can make you have more control over your selection, especially with much more food on offer?
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>>338040649
Only normal games have 20 tickrate, while the competitive mode has 60 tickrate.

Hopefully this will change as more people start complaining in the future. I love the game, but the 20 tickrate is highly noticeable.
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>>338040649
only custom lobbies can run 60 tick
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>>338040838

>because you can make you have more control over your selection
can make your own food and you have more control over your selection*
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one problem i have is some frame delay which causes mouse input inconsistencies even with raw input, its when you combine that with the lower tickrate, the lack of kicking high ping clients, etc, and it becomes noticeable. it's something common to do with how the game is coded, the render thread and game logic thread/APIs can get a bit out of sync under load, even if you run the game well, so you need to turn graphics settings down to fix it basically.

basically a lot of little niggle-y technical issues, some of which can be easily fixed like a client ping cap and making map geometry/lod/particles/lighting/etc more efficient.
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>>338039659
Overwatch's medic is much more boring though. a generic peashooter for self defense, melee doing a measly 30 damage and press Q to revive instead of popping uber to blow up a whole team.
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>>338040649
Git gud and stop getting caught by those ultimates. They all have very clear sound cues and if you have any situational awareness at all you can in most cases dodge them.
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>>338041512
>git gud
>stop getting caught
>starts talking about sound cues
Like what nigga, what makes you think that any of the problems I listed are my fault? Because they aren't.
At the same time they should be effortlessly fixable by Blizzard, but they won't.
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Here are my problems with the fucking game.

It looks like ass, the art direction is nice and all but textures and other shit are just god awful.

It's poorly balanced where some ulties can basically 1 shot shit while others are very situational.

Hitboxes are fucked, I played that fat guy with the hook in the beta and people could just kill me 1-2 seconds after I ran behind a corner because the guy was so fat.

After playing every hero 1-2 times I found like 3 I liked and since there is nothing to unlock but cosmetic shit I got bored after 5-6 hours of playing the game. There are also only a handful of maps and gamemodes.

Maps are badly designed with choke points where you're basically forced to directly fight people which means that the team with the stronger heroes just wins. The fucking arrow guy can easily wipe out the entire enemy team on a chokepoint because his ultimate covers like 60-70% of it.

Overall it's fun for like a game or two in between something else but ultimately I'm not going to buy the game if I already know that I've seen almost everything it has to offer after just a couple of hours and it's just frustrating to play half of the time.
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>>338040649
>pressing Q to earn play of the game is actually a thing
Stop being an actual fucking retard. If someone pressed Q you can't stop them at all? Kill Reaper, stun reaper. Kill Justice rains from above. LoS/kill McCree. Kill the 100 hp tire. Stop being a fucking retard and learn to play.
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>>338041757
>but textures and other shit are just god awful
Aw hell no nigger I'm not reading any more of your shit, because that's just dumb. Are you playing on a toaster perhaps? Because my 970 handles the game maxed out and it's fucking gorgeous, with extremely detailed textures for such a cartoony style.
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>>338039239
is that a boy or a girl?
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>>338042047
Fuck off, why would I give you a serious reply if you basically told me that you don't care about my post anyway.
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>>338041993
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKidALuKSSA
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>>338041993
>Zarya presses Q
what now fuccboi?
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>>338041993
What in the fuck makes you think that any of their ults kill me specifically? Ults are generally not the most dangerous thing about the heroes and they are rarely the reason that something bullshit happens.

Getting shot repeatedly THROUGH walls and outside of LOS, IS a real issue though.
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>>338042291
not him, but turn around and shoot her? it drags you towards a direction, but doesn't immobilise or seriously hurt you. seriously how have you not learned to git gud yet
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>>338042226
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>>338041757
>textures are ass
Are you playing on a toaster?

>hitboxes are fucked
Admittedly, tickrate issues

>sucking with roadhog
He's a great tank and it sounds like you're playing him wrong. Maybe you shouldn't run out in the open to get focused? He has high health and instant strong heal. Whenever I play him I consistently get silver or gold medals

>unlockables
What did you want? You want to unlock heroes? Unlock what?

>maps are badly designed chock points
You do realize there are always 3 to 4 paths around everything right? Getting hit by hanzo's RYU GA WO KURAE means you are bad. You can hear him and the dragon crawls like a snail. It's not hard to dodge, to flank, to move around. The one thing this game has right is the different varying movements to each class.

>frustrating to play
I agree with you, when you play by yourself. Playing with friends is a blast because you have reliable teammates. When I tried the game by myself I despised it, when my friends finally got in moving as a group and working together is what made it.
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>>338042291
that's actually different I'll give you that. Unless you have an actual way of escaping it which I don't think you can because it might interrupt movement spells you'll die to whatever anyone does to you. Your best hope is to have a reinhardt mitigate a lot of damage. But if you do you can still do what I said to reaper but you'll die to McCree ult.

>>338042379
Nigga you literally said
>pressing Q to earn play of the game is actually a thing
Is this a bait? Well memed friend.
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It's not bad. /v/ just shits on literally everything, you should know this by now. It's not perfect, but it's definitely good.
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The game is so simple it is dull

The guns feel shitty and there is no customisation you can do with them. Same with skills and the most clever you can get with them is do two at once or having someone do theirs at the same time. There is no playing smart in overwatch, there is just good counter picking which is easy as fuck to remember. And because everyone is so easy to play it isn't even like you have to get good with a few characters, you can figure them out in a match and still win. It has the lowest skill ceiling of any competitive games I've played, you even get a free kill a load of people in a second attack that can win you games.

Also, choke points everywhere
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>>338042516
>you literally said
>>pressing Q to earn play of the game is actually a thing
I'm seriously not sure what you're trying to imply. Nothing I said about it even hinted on myself being affected by it, it's just a fact of what happens every match. I don't think a single remotely impressive play of the game happened while I played the beta, not even one.
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>>338042457
>Are you playing on a toaster?
Yeah, pic related is my toaster. Apparently the game still looking like ass maxed out is my fault.

>hitboxes are fucked
>sucking with roadhog
So what is it now? Hitboxes are fucked or being hit around a corner because the character is fat as fuck is apparently a skill issue?

>What did you want?
Give me a sense of progression. Skins are meaningless.

> Getting hit by hanzo's RYU GA WO KURAE means you are bad. You can hear him and the dragon crawls like a snail.
Yeah, especially when you don't know where it's coming from and it fucking flies through a wall while you're inside of a small building.
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>>338042052
A gal.A boy.
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>>338042829
>give me a sense of progression

Seeing as you are utterly bad at video games, perhaps you can get good and that will be progress for you?

>Yeah, especially when you don't know where it's coming from and it fucking flies through a wall while you're inside of a small building.

It's very hard to use headphones, eh?
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>>338039239
Its shallow
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>>338043040
Okay. I'm still not buying it :^)
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>Hitscan and 20tick
I enjoyed it, but i honestly cant take it seriously. Its like competitive smash brothers. It boils down to luck and memory of the most retarded things.

Playing Junkrat and Soldier was fun, and i could have some fun with Mcree and Hanzo even though they suffer from the game, but being a decent Mcree, Widowmaker or Zenyatta is suffering due to the game being flawed.
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>>338042829
>textures look like ass
Subjective, I play on a 980ti 1440 and I think they look nice and aesthetic.

>So what is it now? Hitboxes are fucked or being hit around a corner because the character is fat as fuck is apparently a skill issue?

Yea because apparently you're getting wrecked and I'm not? He has a fucking chain pull ability for fucks sake. Learn to play him. Why the fuck are letting yourself get focused hard? Pushing forward without teammates? If you're going to quick peak a corner make sure you grab someone for a near instant kill on squishies.

>progression
What did you want? To unlock heroes? What? You need progression to have fun?

>Yeah, especially when you don't know where it's coming from and it fucking flies through a wall while you're inside of a small building.
Man you're just bad at this game. You do 80% of the time the enemy player will always be in front? So when you hear hanzo you can hear his ability go off and expect to come from the front? ALso the fact it MOVES FUCKING SLOW AND TAKES 2 SECONDS TO MOVE OUT OF.
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>>338043157
I never said it's a good game. But complaining about those things makes you look like a horrible player.
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>>338043157
Then don't buy it. When people argue, they just get further entrenched in their views. No one here ever changes their opinion.

The only things I would agree with you is the shitty tickrate issues.
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>>338041993
youre like that guy who mocked our team when he made a 4 kill ulti
>"dont bunch up plebs ;("

then i rektd their entire team and won us the game with junkrat tire

the thing is when ur in OT you need to be on the point or you'll lose, and you cant avoid everything
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>another shitposting thread

THREAD PREDICTIONS:
>TF2
>Battleborn
>$60
>unbalanced
>skins
>waifuism
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>>338041186
Nah, she can fly through the air and her healing is so powerful you don't need the garbage syringe gun. The lack of Uber is a good thing, in TF2 it's nothing but a source of frustration. Dying at full/almost full Uber, and using Uber just to discover your teammates are garbage so it's pointless. Revival feels way better and can also win the game.
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>>338043157
>Okay. I'm still not buying it :^)
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>People die to ults
>Instead of playing to counter those ults like using knockback to juggle Genji or deflecting/shielding against High Noon, people just complain and call it casual
Yawn
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>>338043157
Good, you sound like a fucking annoying asshole to have in a team.
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>>338044118
>"ive never died to an ult"

dont lie faggot, you've learned to avoid alot of them but you still get blindsided every now and then

why? because the skill cap goes both ways, only a retard Junkrut announce his presence and then send his tire in their frontline where S76 easily shoots it

a well played hidden tire while the team is distracted is the key to using ults and thats how we'll see them being effective in high lvl plays
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>>338044523
Not that anon, and obviously people are going to die to ults, but the most satisfying plays lie in shutting them down.
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Fallout 4 is a better game
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>>338042829
You are trolling.
I run it with AMD R9 380, 16 RAM and have no problem, everything look nice and clean.

>be fat man
>get shot cuz your belly is sticking out
>REEEEEE hitboxes are fucked up
nope, you suck and highly autistic.
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>>338039363
>It feels like a native PC game
>press Q to aimbot

kek
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>>338039239
Overwatch OP in my opinion is a very fun game and I think I'm gonna have fun with it for a long time to come. Hell, I'm itching to play it again!

But I don't think it's worth $40. It's hardly worth that amount of money at its current state... If anything, it's worth $20 at most with the origin edition being worth the $40 instead, and even that's pushing it.

The beta from what I've heard is pretty much what we'll get for a while until the inevitable DLC release later on this year or next (and whether Blizzard is true to their word, it being free or not is debatable).


TF2 literally does everything Overwatch does except it has a much larger community; a workshop for continuous free new weapons, taunts, and maps; free special events and weapons; and most of all, it's a f2p game, so there's always gonna be players no matter what.

Unless Blizzard (which I doubt) adds some form of community workshop with Overwatch, I can see things going dull very quickly
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>>338043206
>cant aim and hit shit
>DA GAME IZ BROKEN

No, it means you gotta play Symeria or Mei.
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I have missed the Beta, does the game run smoothly on a 560 ti 448? I recently replaced my CPU and have no money for a new card.
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>>338044667
>JUSTICE RAINS FR.....
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>>338044952
>"I got you in my sights"
>doesnt duck for cover

perhaps you should play better?
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>>338045406
>duck for cover
>he just sprints after you
cool
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>>338045580
he cant shoot when he's sprinting and his ult lasts for what, 6 seconds?

he's going to waste his ult sprinting?
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>>338041757
>the art direction is nice
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>>338045319
>560 ti
>3dmark score 4700

You poor girl. I'm not sure if you can run it in 640x480 but godspeed.
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>>338039363
>Playing Overwatch
>On PC

KYS
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it's a pretty fucking terrible FPS with little to no depth but as a Blizzard game it has the right amount of casual that fits into their style (HotS, Hearthstone)
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>>338039239
its just extremely simplistic on a mechanical level, which is never good for a shooter.

all the complexity (and where the skill ceiling will be) is in interactions between multiple heroes, your team playing well together and everyone correctly adapting to your opposing team to counter etc.

you won't like it unless you have 4 mates you constantly play with. like any other team game, team play with randoms is mostly cancerous, except games like CS:GO or even Dota have a significant range of skill you can develop on your own outside of teamplay, due to the complexity of core game mechanics, but overwatch just doesn't have that.
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>>338040219
I'm really conflicted between tf2 medic and Mercy, I love how tf2 medic sounds and looks but I find Mercy really fucking hot and I like her voice as well.
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>>338040487
because I'm not a fucking negro poorfag who makes sub 1k a month and can easily afford small luxuries like these?
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>>338039239
Not gonna spend 40/60$ for it
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It's completely shallow. LIke, more so than fly vomit. I racked up 20 hours in the beta and none of it was memorable, i can't single out any great things that happened, just that i either won or lost.
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Here is the verdict kids:

I hate a lot about it and I honestly don't understand why shit like legitimate wallhacks are a thing in a supposedly competitive mp fps, but I'm gonna get and I'm gonna play the shit out of it and rage at it because I got nothing else to play anymore.

And neither do any of you.
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>>338039659

>implying TF2 being free is a good thing

oh boy, i'll sure miss the flood of cheaters, 12-year olds and poorfags that F2P games have!
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>>338045940
Reddit
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people have witnessed time and time again that NuBlizzard is sincerely bad, but these shills aren't giving up while they're getting paid

just imagine being forced to play reinhardt or lucio again and again and again, just to have a chance to win

you like soldier? too bad, pharah is not needed in many situations and is a liability you like heavy? too bad that there is nothing like that in OW, etc.
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>>338046612
I really hate that the game is so against you maining anyone, no amount of skill can pull you through as they are all so shallow.
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the only reason Battleborn failed was that it didn't have the Japanese-esque waifu pandering Overwatch does

going by the same logic, Overwatch would have failed if it didn't have Widowmaker, D.Va, Mercy, or Tracer. Blizzard is really good at understanding how to mask a really bland game with a coat of paint.
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How can it be bad when it has Mei in it?
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>>338043281
>I never said it's a good game.
So why defend it?
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>early in the beta
>playing with scrubs and CoD kiddies
>people die to ults, have no peripheral vision and ignore audio queues

>later in the beta
>get matched with more experienced people at higher levels
>people evade ults, switch focus to enemies trying to line up an ult (i.e. Reaper) and pull back if they hear Hanzo etc. using his

Gee, I wonder which category all those "Overwatch sux!!1 press Q to win!!" people fall into.
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fuck off shill
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>>338047096
That's a nice fairytale you got there, Shill-kun.
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>>338047096

You literally named two situations.
>evading ultimates
>focusing on key targets
This is something a person with 5 hours into League of Legends knows about.
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>>338045940
>Playing games other than Mario, Abe, Pandemonium on console.

KEK mate.
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>>338046808
Battleborn failed because it's 'Borderlands: ASSFAGGOTS Edition', with the horrible art-style, cringe-inducing writing and Anthony Burch humor.

Also, they tried to trash-talk Blizzard on twitter and were promptly rectal-ravaged by Overwatch's beta.
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>>338046451
Games with bots are like that, try pvp with friends next time.
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>>338047259
>Someone likes something I don't like...
>SHILL! MARKETER! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I'm getting a lot of mileage out of this screencap these days.
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>>338039239
>Can someone please explain why this game is shit?

D.Va isn't in enough of the advertising or buffed to being overpowered.
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Blizzard licked feminist boots by including SJW garbage in the game (beastiality with robots, pink haired power lifters, fat geek girl)

If you support this tripe you are the cancer killing video games
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>>338047273
and yet (to keep up the LoL corollary) you see people who have hundreds of hours played still in bronze and failing at both of those things. Easy is relative and shitters will always exist en mass
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Can't wait for blizzard to finally introduced ranked so we can see who the scrubs are.

But the people who already hate the game won't buy it.
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>>338047582
>Zarya is one of the most bigoted characters in the game, whenever she isn't being a Russian stereotype
>Omnics are cyber-buddhists and the lore makes it very clear that things are much more complex than 'robots good and oppressed, humans bad'
>the only remotely geeky character is a trash-talking, Korean gamer chick
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>>338047582
I really want to say this is funposting, but its sad that i cant be quite sure.
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>op wants to shitpost so he asks /v/ how to shitposting

how fucking pathethic can you get
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>>338047553
>I'm getting a lot of mileage out of this screencap these days.
Yes, since it a deflection tactic, rather than proving your story to be true, you post a pic of a post of someone attacking someone else with a generalization.

Look if calling you a shill gets on your nerves this much than you can't even refute my claim, maybe you should back at waiting for Overwatch.
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>>338047413
>That image
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>>338043895
typical Overwatchbabby
>ignoring actual complaints and complain about every thread being a shitposting thread
no shit, every Overwatch thread becomes a shitpost thread when Overwatchbabbies can't discuss the game properly as soon as its not blindly appreciating everything in this game
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>>338047419

nice meme
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i heard people dont like that others have fun.
is /v/ islamized?
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>>338047554
That artwork of Tracer is pretty fucking scary looking.
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>>338047092
Because he was complaining about things that were not a problem.

It's like complaining about Dark Souls graphics when they were never the point of the game.
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>>338048247
What time is it ?
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>>338047973
not him but you are literally acting like what the pic is describing.

Just my own 2 cents to the topic
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>>338048304
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>>338048097
I find it astonishing that on 1 side they are crying when blizzard told them " you think you like to play Vanilla WoW , but actually you dont "
and on the other side they are doing the same thing everyday here on /v/.

"You think you like GAME A , but actually you dont"
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>>338043890
Everything I said works while being on point retard.
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The two biggest things for me is lack of scoreboard and tick rate. Right now it does not feel like a proper PC shooter without a scoreboard. I understand why they did it but you can convert contributions such as healing and blocking to a score like TF2.
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They should make a 'Deprogrammed Widowmaker' skin where she rejoins Overwatch after her mind-control is broken.
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>>338048908
They want to discourage egotistical players who tab every 3 seconds to jerk off to their k/d ratio.
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>>338039239
I just want Blizzard to dispel the fiction that Tracer was born a female, she's obviously a trap.

Men can handle the G forces of flying a jet far better than a woman can without passing out. Who in their right mind would allow a female test pilot a brand new TELEPORTING jet??

He obviously went a little insane from the ordeal and felt the need to transition into a woman.
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>>338039363

Yeah...that's why it has enormous hitboxes, that low as fuck tickrate and most of the heroes have auto-aim skills. Totally a game created for the mouse aiming precision.
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>>338049271
Agreed
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>>338049271
get a life, drop reddit.
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>>338049390
Nearly all existing shooters exist on consoles, doubt your autoaim argument makes sense, heroes with autoaim is for shitters anyway
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>>338049390
>'muh auto-aim'
>one hero's ult that lasts 6 seconds
>one of the weakest ultimates in the game

And this is why I can't take any of this shit serious. 90% of the complaints in these threads expose those making them for having no clue about the game or being low-skill shitters who run into Bastion's turret-mode and whine that they get killed.
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>>338047096
>Named widowmaker
>Has masculine widow's peak for no reason

BRAVO
METZEN
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>>338048304
11:59 and the sun is almost at its peak
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>>338049856
>who run into Bastion's turret-mode
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>give blizzard money
>don't give blizzard money

fuck that was a hard choice
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>>338040858
Why.. would they even seperate that and not make the objectively better 60 the base?
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>>338051238
servers,BF4 was 10 tickrate on the start and later gut upgraded, CoD is usually 20 to 30 and CS:Go is 64 and some private servers are 128.
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>>338051632
Ah, I see.
Well if any company has enough money to get good servers, it's Blizzard.
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how much longer 'till release ? It feels like I've been waiting forever.
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>>338051882
Well I can think if people complain enough they will start moving to better servers but usually all the games that blizzard games had till now didn't require high tick servers.
But yeah in short the only thing they have to do is to change servers and enable higher tick rate on the client and problem solved.
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>>338052039
http://onlywat.ch/
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>>338045319

>560 ti
>smoothly

>>338049271

>Tracer was born a female
>a female test a brand new TELEPORTING jet

>>338049856

>run into Bastion's turret-mode and get killed

>>338050380

>the sun at its peak

>>338050998

>give blizzard money
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>>338050776
>>338052423
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I see this game having the same degenerate fanbase as games like TERA or Blade and Soul. Waifufaggots and lolishit wankers that do no care about good gameplay LOL
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It's just boring to play and is obviously made for casuals. The class based system is retarded and just makes it seem like a MOBA where some sucker has to be the "support" when everyone knows that shit is boring and no one wants to do it. Also the ultimates are retarded and basically guarantee kills which does not really suit an FPS that is supposed to be based on skills. Also the whole disney-pixar i'm an 11 year old aesthetic does not appeal to me. I played less than 2 hours and was not at all impressed. I don't know how people can like the game when its pure garbage.
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>>338052601
lol yeah BRUH XDDD
LETS GO HIT UP SOME DOOM AND QUAKE AND WRECK DA NOOB HAHAHA XDDD
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It takes the worst aspects of MOBA's and introduces them into a shooter.

For example, rediculous ultimate abilities that either require no skill to drastically change the game (Mercy, D.Va), or ultimates that are so hamstrung that no decent team will ever use the hero period (Mcree, Hanzo)

Balance is abysmal and its not going to get any better.

For every decent idea they have (unlockables, custom game modes) they implement them in a terrible fashion, (grind, no lobby/matchmaking for custom games).
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As we know most people on /v/ are underage faggots who pirate every shit they see, but they won't be able to pirate overwatch so they say it is a bad game, mystery solved.
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>>338039239
See >>338049850
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>>338053012
>not enjoying support, tanks and hybrids roles
Go back to CoD. No, seriously, Overwatch is a team-game where lone wolves that are only out for kills will lose the round for their side.

>the ultimates are retarded and basically guarantee kills
See the billion posts above explaining that people only die to ults at early levels, when they don't know the counters yet. Later on, ultimates are only used for pushing, zoning and forcing objectives.

>I don't know how people can like the game when its pure garbage.
Your complete misunderstanding of the game's basic principles doesn't lend much weight to your opinion. What's next, "Nerf Bastion!!!"?
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i like it.
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>>338052360

thanks bro
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>>338053080

You are actually being ironic while including games better than Overwatch in your post, holy kek
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>For example, rediculous ultimate abilities that either require no skill to drastically change the game (Mercy, D.Va)

>he dies to the massively telegraphed and globally announced explosion of D.Va's mech
>he stays in a choke-point when he hears Hanzo casting his dragon attack
>he ignores the Reaper running into the middle of his team
>he tries to ambush people when Widowmaker uses her visor
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Have any of you faggots played with friends you know in real life? I had almost a full squad every time I got on and this game is a fucking blast.

You know what's weird that I found out about ults? Not only does your enemy have one, but you have one as well!!! Isn't that crazy? Just wanted to let /v/ know since you all seem to have not realized that yet.
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>>338040649
>le thickrate maymay xDDDD

please STOP IT

the game is FINE and perfectly PLAYABLE. if you die a lot of because of it, you're just bad at this casual game and should kys
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>>338053707
people seem to have played the beta for no more than 5 hours.
because eventually in the higher ranks, the game was very different.
i can't remember getting hit by a mccree once, on the last 2 days of beta.
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>>338041757
>I got bored because they gave me all the content

Modern gaming everybody.

The game is shit because it's slow and there are no advance play options. Everything is rock paper scissors with the prereq of being able to aim.
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>>338054098
>I'm not told how skilled I am for playing a vidya gayme

I really hate you fags. You need to be told your so "le skilled and awsum" I really do pity you people. You need a vidya game to tell you what you're worth. Get up and make something, do something, anything, just please don't let your vidya gaymes determine your self worth.
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>>338053960
This.

I only recall seeing one or two Bastion PotGs past lvl15 and people barely played him anymore. Sadly it also meant that I could kill 4-5 people with D.Va's mech anymore since people had wised up to it.

I wish the game had custom tutorials for every hero. It took way too many deaths, wondering why a "tank" was dying so quickly, before it became clear that D.Va is a flanker. Defense Matrix is also a bit unclear. For the longest time I thought it was another directional shield, like Reinhardt's.
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Because it's popular.
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>>338054363
What are you even talking about?
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>>338054504
Vidya games aren't a way of finding your self worth. That can only happen when you actually do real things. Vidya will never give you a self esteem. I'm trying to help you.
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The map design is absolutely horrible. Way too many chokepoints (Temple of Anubis A, last stretch of Hollywood, pretty much all of Dorado, etc.) make defense trivial if the defenders are in any way organized.

Defensive heroes in general are pretty badly designed. Torrbjorn's turrets take almost no time to lock on to a target, and their nigh infinite range is stupid. Symmetra is an absolutely awful hero that is in no way fun to play, yet is critical to the success of her team. Bastion has been whined about enough already. Hanzo's arrows are the size of a fucking log when it comes to hitscan.

The TTK is way too low in my personal opinion. You can spend something like 20-30 seconds respawning and slowly plodding back to combat, and then you die almost instantly upon arriving from some bullshit coming at you from out of fucking nowhere. It just stops being fun after awhile. I played the shit out of the open beta, and I'm not going to be buying the game as a result.
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>>338054689
>I'm bad: the post
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>>338054798
he's right about the terrible map designs.
other than that it sounds like he's pretty bad.
>complaining about torbjorn turret
i've never seen anyone complain about that, so easy to play around.
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>>338054798
>I have no way to refute the above argument, better just call him bad: the reply
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>>338054629
You are a retard. What does my post have to do with that?

First I called the guy a fag because he implied not having to unlock shit is somehow bad. Putting shit behind a wall to unlock is retarded and a waste of time and only in games now because "muh progression" when in the past they just gave us everything and we played the games because they were fun.

The second part was saying the game is shit because it has a low skill ceiling. Why would I play something that is not stimulating and you don't have to think to play?

>Hurrr u must be a loser because you want games to be hard

I'll screencap this post and send it to my gf so we can laugh at you together :^)
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>>338054629
This. Listen to this anon, I'm glad I don't play vidya for "le mad skillz xDD" and cheevos anymore, it only brought me emptiness.

Not samefag, by the way.
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>>338054391
>tutorials

>balance
>f2p
>competitive

Stop comparing every MOBA game to Dota 2 template.
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>>338054798
>Any criticism about a game that isn't even out and hasn't had time to get balanced just automatically means the person is bad.
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>>338054971
You guys really are pathetic and need to stop projecting your own weakness as men onto other people.

Men are competitive by nature. The fact that you stopped partaking in competitive activity means that you are literally less of a man. Women are the people who just "want to have fun" because of a lack of testosterone.

Competing and getting better at something is a sign that you have balls, good to know you stopped all that because you realized you wanted to be a little girl. I think you are on the wrong board though.

>>>/jp/
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>>338055001
What are you going on about? The point about hero tutorials (the only actual tutorial uses Soldier:76) would be to teach players about them. As it stands, you're once again stuck reading a guide or die over and over trying to figure out a functioning playstyle for any given hero.

The game's own categorization doesn't really fit the reality of the matches being played. Reinhardt is the only actual tank, while the rest are interrupters, harassers, flankers and initiators.
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>>338054935
So you think that Symmetra is a fun and engaging hero, and that Hanzo's arrows take skill then?

The terrible map design goes hand in hand with my complaint about Torrbjorn. I played him enough times to realize that he is absolutely fucking stupid in some situations (Kings Row A, Volskaya B, possibly the interior Nepal map) because you can set up a turret in a position that can absolutely dominate the attackers. The turret becomes such a nuisance that a single turret can completely shut down the offense if the enemy team doesn't respond properly.
>but you're just playing with bad pubbies
Doesn't really refute the argument.
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>>338045319
I am also wondering if my video card can handle overwatch, I'm currently using a Geforce GTX 550 ti
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>>338055694
symmetra is pretty fun, laying ambushes, shielding teammates setting up sneaky teleporter, M1ing down close range chars especially winston. M2ing into chokepoints seeing reinhardts panic.
i mean you have to aim with hanzo, and he has a bow, sounds like a solid design takes as much skill as other heroes you have to aim with, i don't see the problem.
>torbjorn shutting down anything
top fucking kek.
>but you're just playing with bad pubbies
>Doesn't really refute the argument.
actually it totally does, because balance only matters in a competetive Esport environment, those guys who play the game every day with their teams for multiple hours, probably know the game best.
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>>338054689
>Hanzo's arrows are the size of a fucking log when it comes to hitscan
I think I know what you're trying to say, but hitboxes and hitscan are not the same thing
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>>338055694
>his argument is based on what he finds fun
>he argues against the game because the game isn't "skilled" enough for him

You pathetic children need to find real world hobbies, you aren't mentally capable of playing video games without ruining your life.
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>>338039239
Because some of the characters you hold mouse 1 without aiming to kill people like Winston and that teleporter Indian girl
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>>338056283
see >>338054629

I don't come to /v/ often, I didn't realize so many of you get your self worth from gay ass vidya games.
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>>338055418
You can figure these things out in a single match on your own anon. Characters have two abilities an ult and a gun. It's not complicated. Let the community teach themselves and others. You don't need everything spoonfed to you.
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>>338053836

You obviously didnt play during beta. Cant tell you how many times I was pulled by roadhog through walls and cars. On the kill cams I would literally teleport to where i was supposedly hooked
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>>338039239
Quick question, do any of you even know what tickets means?
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>>338056561
These aren't real people. These aren't people that played vidya growing up finding new things out on their own and having fun with it. These are children that play league of legends and need to watch other's play to understand how and need guides telling them exactly how to build.
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>>338044523
It's ok that ults can kill
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>>338056660
I never had any of these problems on pc, maybe it's a connection issue
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>>338055992
>>338045319
750ti here. It runs 120 fps on ultra. You should have checked out the beta if you wanted better insurance but I think you'll be able to run it just fine. If you can run TF2 at the state it's in now, you can run Overwatch ezpz.
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>>338056238
Neither are hurtboxes and hitboxes
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>>338039239
Unlimited ammo.
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>>338056874
Honestly, the way they say "I've got to die OVER and OVER!"

You mean play the game? Like Jesus do these kids play basketball and just bitch incessantly about missing shots over and over because no ones showing then proper form.

Learn to have fun learning, you drones. Its the only way to be successful in life.
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>>338039239

it will never be taken seriously as a competitive game.

but even still, it looks fun as fuck. how many other shooters can you fly in? fuck me, all i ever wanted in my fps was more mobility options.
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So how do I counter Mercy's ultimate?

Make sure she dies first in every team fight for the rest of the match?
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>>338058397
Wait for the nerf.
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>>338058397
Yes? Is that hard?
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>>338058397
she doesn't need to die first, but she should be one of the first 3 dieing.
>>338058135
so just like TF2? fantastic.
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>>338042516
>be genji
>press e because her ult is a projectile
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>>338058397
Kill people in a chain instead of all at once, keep her at a distance from her team, or kill her first.
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god how I hate that Gearbox "I SCREAM ALL THE TIME BECAUSE I'M BADASS, LET'S WRECK SOME THINGS RAAAAAAAW BADAAAAAASS" "humor"
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>>338039239

Tick rate is pretty noticeable, but the whole "Press Q to win" is exaggerated to hell and back now that better players know how to take out QQ'ers while they're using their ults.
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>>338047582

Seriously, maybe it's just wishful thinking but I feel like -whenever it seems like they cater to SJWs- they actually subtly take a shit on them

>create Zarya because people complain about "muh body diversity"
>make her some nationalist Russian chick who hates minorities
>remove Tracer pose after that famous buttpose-thread
>replace it with an actual 70s pin-up pose
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>>338058397
Give her the dick
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>>338058397
>play of the game
>teammate presses q, 4 or 5 kills
>as it's about to end, Mercy ult
>everyone revived
>teammate gets killed
Fucking glorious.
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>>338040468
Some of the characters do tho.
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>>338059267
That dance looks familiar.
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>>338059469
HELDEN STERBEN NICHT!
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