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What are some good mech games /v/?
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What are some good mech games /v/?
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>>338022543
There's none. The genre is dead. There hasn't been a mechwarrior game for generations.
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>>338022543
none.
genre died because the premise isn't as great as people imagine.
you are a slow walking machine shooting lasers at another slow walking machine in front of you. gets boring fast.
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I really enjoyed Ring of Red for PS2. The mechs are the heavy and slow kind, not that retarded garbage with spikes all over them flying around at breakneck speed with laser blades. I've never played another game like Ring of Red where you feel so slow and heavy like a mech should, then firing your cannon at another mech has a very satisfying crunchy impact. That game is not for everyone and the combat can get tedious when a battle is just dragging on but I loved it.
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>>338022543
This one

>>338022794
t. Titanfall dev
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>>338022794
That's essentially it.
And I'm not a fan of the jap version.
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>>338022932
>The mechs are the heavy and slow kind
>slow and heavy like a mech should

Dropped. Heavy and fast is the best style.

Light and fast looks plain retarded, while heavy and slow begs the question "why isn't this just a tank?"
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>>338023224
Nah, mechs dashing around or flying is trash. I cannot suspend my disbelief to enjoy that kind of shit. It's just silly to look at and I want nothing to do with it.
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>>338023224
Why not just make a jet?
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strike suit zero
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>>338023405
Not as silly as stompy mechs. A fighting vehicle should be fast, why would you want a slow one?

I can't understand how someone can possibly think a giant metal cube covered in tiny laser turrets is cool. They take the worst parts of tanks and mechs and combine them.
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>>338023608
SSZ was the most disappointing shit. The suit was not only overpowered but also boring as fuck to use and it trivializes the entire game.
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>>338022543
Metal Wolf Chaos
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>>338023828
Lasers aren't cool, I want only ballistic weapons on my dope ass giant metal cube.
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>>338022543
LBX was fun
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>>338023907
well, at least you have one correct opinion
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When's Armored Core 6 FromSoft?

>>338022937
Did this get funded? I completely forgot what it's called.
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>>338024451
>When's Armored Core 6 FromSoft?
literally never, it's dark souls all day every day
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>>338024451
It only reached 50%, but that doesn't mean it's not going to be finished

It just means they'll have to scrap some features, including (I think) the multiplayer
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>>338023405
>I cannot suspend my disbelief to enjoy that kind of shit
But you're okay with shitty tanks with legs that can be toppled over?

>>338023569
Jet can't land anywhere at any time or circle strafe around you while shooting. Also no melee.
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>>338026216
>circle strafing

you know, I've never realized it before, but this is probably why mechs are used in games
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>>338023405
>not wanting a cuhrayzee mecha video game
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>>338023608
You mean Strike Suit Infinity
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>>338022543
mechwarrior online
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>>338027820
Is this Macross Delta?
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>>338029194
Frontier.
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>>338029310
In what order do I watch the macross series
I already watched the original TV show and DYRL
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>>338029608
Chronologically senpai
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>>338029608
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>>338029608
release or pick any show you want, there's not much continuity, you can start pretty much with frontier or delta
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>>338030754
If you're already into it though as that anon is there is no reason to not watch in chronological order as most of them are more enjoyable when you understand the references to previous series.
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>>338030957
>no reason to not watch in chronological order
>watching zero before sdf
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>>338031190
Yeah I meant the order in which they were produced, not the times within the macross universe they are set. Should have said production order or something.
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>mecha games
>ever being made again
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ZoE 1-2
Metal Wolf Chaos
RAD
Lost Planet 1-2
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>>338032074
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>>338022543
Gundam Breaker 3
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Pacific Rim was so good
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>>338022543
SRW OG MD soon
https://youtu.be/5JG_Owh8NpQ
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>>338032497
double pilot thing is dumb tho.
should've just gone G Gundam route
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>>338032557
Garbage.
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>>338032701
nice to meet you garbage-kun
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>>338032663
two pilots is the best trope though

you get to see them learn to work together and shit
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>>338022543
tank sim games
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>ctrl+f "RAD"
>1 person posted it
At least I know there's one guy with good taste in here
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>>338032916
I'd prefer if they just were a team in separate mechs
https://youtu.be/wz0nBQyWOsA

but hey, movie is still pretty good, just personal taste
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>>338032497
Why didn't they use the sword at the start?
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>>338033015
>tank sim
arcade tank games are better tho
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>>338033208
>I'd prefer if they just were a team in separate mechs
Del Taco wanted this for a sequel.
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>>338033454
is sequel still a thing? I heard awhile ago that they lost funding or something.
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>>338032465
How is this? Never played any Gundam Breaker games before but they look fun as fuck. Only thing is that I don't have a PS4 for this one.
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>>338033556
It got halted like twice or something. It has half the funding of the original movie so it's probably going to suck. Also Del Taco isn't working on it anyway but some dude who worked on that shitty Daredevil series.
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>>338033717
First two Breakers suck. Third one is kinda mindless masher as well. Only saving grace is the customization. Stick to EXVS.
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>>338033719
well fuck, probably nothing good will come out of it then
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>>338033334
Because blue blood is toxic and they didn't want to spill it everywhere
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>>338033334
Kaiju blood is toxic, so they're not supposed to draw blood
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>>338033717
Overall reception is quite positive, tho gameplay seems a bit dull. What shines is customization.
I got my copy already, but PS4 in warranty repairs, can't play for few more weeks to say anything more certain.
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>>338022543
>Killing best Jaeger just when it start to get its screentime


What a Fucking blunder, I'll never forgive Del Taco for that.
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>>338034218
a-at least it took two of them to bring him down!
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>>338034218
m-maybe it'll appear in the sequel
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>>338034218

Best jaeger is Striker

>Beat the fuck out of the Cat V Kaiju so badly it had to call for help
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mechwarrior online. you hate it or what dorks? it's fun, sometimes.
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>>338035219
>MMO
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>>338035219
>MMO's I haven't heard of
I'm sorry but for some reason I have to assume it's optimized about as well as caitlyn jenners chromosomes but you can feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
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I fucking love the names of Pacific Rim mechs
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>>338036396
>I have a shit toaster
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>>338036396
>not optimized for my Pentium 166 mmx
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>>338036831
ye, 750 ti. I'm pretty sad with it desu, that doesn't change my point about most non-triple A mmo's being optimized like fucking garbage. Esp gook mmos
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>>338035219
>playing online games
how about no.
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>>338034624
>>338034218
where my typhoonbros at
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JUST FUCKING RELEASE ARMORED CORE PORTS ON PC ALREADY

WHAT THE FUCK

WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR FROMSOFT ?

DONT YOU LIKE MONEY !???
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I hear Armored Core V and Verdict Day were bad compared to For Answer. Why is that?
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>>338038598
Because FA babies are screaming their lungs out.
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>>338038598
because it's nothing like 4/FA, which despite being the black sheep in the series brought the largest number of new fans
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>>338037647
I doubt that it will sell good, especially 2nd and 3rd gen.
All the Fromsoft "fans" will go full retard because "muh souls" and the series will be left where it is - on the consoles.
Such a damn shame though.
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>>338022543
Hopefully from software will make new armoured core now that dark souls is finished.
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>>338022543
If you haven't played Zone of the Enders 1 and 2 it is a must for mech fans. It is essentially a gundam wing game done right.
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CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG!!!

Think of the children
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>>338040414
no
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>>338040309
1 is trash 2 is mediocre but nice looking.
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>>338041457
Fucking Ideon.
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>>338041614
If only gundams shows killed children that easy
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>>338043073
Animu kids are cute. Why would you want them dead?
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>>338043397
watch some gundams
that will answer your questions
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>>338043496
That's not a kid, that's a bitch.
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>>338041457
did he died?
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>>338041457
I watched the whole series to build up to this moment. I don't see what blew Anno away enough that he had to make Eva
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>>338043597
the bearable kids were in 0079
then everything went wrong.
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>>338043737
Eva is mediocre mash up of ideas, you don't need to be blown up by anything
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>>338044985
>mediocre
Post your top 3 mecha anime so I can laugh at you. Eva is overrated sure, but mediocre is pushing it
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>>338023405
>I cannot suspend my disbelief
Then why are you playing video games?
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>>338045416
patlabor
08 MS team
macross 7
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>>338045416
>Eva
>mecha

>>338045662
>Macross 7
>good
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>>338045749
it's fun, tho I understand that Plus is the best thing Macross ever put out, 7 kinda popped up in head before it.
I blame music
https://youtu.be/9yWpFWhmdnw
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>>338036207
>>338036396
>implying its an mmo
>implying sitting in a cockpit and duking it out with other pilots isn't fun as fuck

The only bad thing about it is the grind
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>>338045952
It isn't fun, though.

Weapons in Mechwarrior are inherently unsatisfying. All of them.
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>>338028970
thats not mech game, its an FPS with robot theme.
Just like all those weeb mechas...1000T gigant robot prancing like ballete lady. THATS GAY.

Untill they make proper simulator of 40k Titans/Knights, this genre is dead.
Or just good Mechwarrior.
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>>338022937
What game is that?
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>>338046213
>its an FPS with robot theme.
that's hawken
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>>338045749
If Eva isn't mecha then so isn't patlabor because they have episodes where Ohta goes on a date
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>>338032074
>>338032393
http://tetragonworks.com/
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>>338046215
Dual Gear
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>>338046478
>Dual Gear
Thanks senpai
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>>338046296
and MWO, sadly.
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>slow mechs are the only real mechs
>japanese mechs suck
You fags never shut up
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>>338046070
>unsatisfying
Gaming code word for "not overpowered".

The best decision they ever made with MWO is the doubled health values and laser durations. While there are other haphazard mechanics that hold the game in an unsteady balance, it is these things that really help curb the front-loaded, pin-point damage problems that plagued the multiplayer of older games.

PGI just needs to stop sucking for a moment to actually bring out the game's true potential. Game modes be damned, the actual shooty part has to be perfect first.
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>>338047057
well that tries be a bit more than that, failing miserably tho
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>>338046396
>http://tetragonworks.com/
Those lame mobile market visual.
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>>338046396
>>338046543
Horrible.
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I miss Exteel
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>>338047612
I miss every mech series
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Hardsuits in Blacklight aren't the main focus but it feels good to get in one and stomp the enemy team.
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>>338048108
>arms exposed
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>>338048108
Hardsuits became half as fun when they removed boost cancelling.

>>338048647
They are based on Landmates, which have an equally stupid cockpit design. I wouldn't be worried about getting shot; it is liable to completely crush both arms whenever it accidentally falls over.
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>>338047082
We do preach restlessly brother, thurth is out there.

Cast away weeb faggotry and come to light.

TITANS are what you seek, TITANS are what you need.
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>No multiplayer mech-only game with large dose of customization

Why?

And NCSoft are bunch of dicks. First they killed Exteel because "lol we can", then killed any fans projects to make something similar on their own because "lol, we still work on Exteel 2 guys!" and then killed Project HON, the closest thing to Exteel.

FUCK.

IT.

Probably because Koreans are brain-dead idiots, who prefer shit like Elseword.

And what else we have? Heavygear Assault, that will probably be stuck in alpha "PLEASE BACK US!" state?
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>>338048987
If you want to be speedy there's a different hardsuit with less armor but instead of boosting it just sprints around.
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>>338049147
Greater good has better mechs
how does it make you feel
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>>338049259
>>No multiplayer mech-only game with large dose of customization
Armored Core Verdict Day. Literally all of that and some.
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>>338049259
MAV
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>>338049763
It's just not the same. The Rhino used to be able to blast into a room and ram someone or two, then immediately chew up the rest with its guns. Now boosting is more of an escape move rather than an offensive one.
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>>338050745

Not on PC.

I forgot to add this, sorry.
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>>338040309
Orbital Frames are nothing like Mobile Suits. Plot is pretty similar to typical Gundam plot though.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOLRjNNR7BE
Why don't you kids like Macross?
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Mechwarrior Online is the best at quickplay
Faction Warfare is shit, though.

But as stompy mech hunting game, is the best right now.
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>>338051537
I do. PSP games and that one on PS2 are phenomenal.
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>>338051537
that reminds me, I need to order Macross 30 already
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>>338022543
Hawken is good give it try and judge yourself its kinda p2w but for mech fan its good.
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>>338045662
Those are good, but they aren't even the best Gundam or Macross.
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Is pic related any good? It's still in early access but it's one of the few mecha PC games.
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>>338051813
It's okay so long as you can tolerate 15 FPS most of the time.
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>>338051872
personal tastes are the thing anon, tho I wonder what gundam you consider the best tho
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>>338051997
It's coming up nicely but never buy games in early access.
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>>338022543
>>338022695
It's sad because it's true
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>>338052085
aw fuck, didn't seem that bad from gameplay videos
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>>338045749
Eva is actually one of the more realistic mecha anime. Sure the Angels and shit is a little far fetched but the reactions of the characters I way more realistic than "im a kid that pilots a war machine :^) I'll laugh with my friends after this battle" in Eva people are traumatized, Shinji fucking hates piloting it. The mechs sync with your own nerves, literally when the mech arm gets torn off, he feels like his own arm has been torn off. Nobody expects a bunch of kids to be fine with risking their lives.
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>>338024451
>Armored Core 6
comic related
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PSO2 satisfies my mech itch, even if they're just reskinned humans with customizable parts. I wish there were more games like Exteel. Fast paced multiplayer combat with customizable mechs, and on PC.
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>>338052097
TV: Zeta
OVA: 0080
Movie: CCA

I haven't seen anything past Turn A though.

Most, not all, of the UC stuff is pretty good. I don't really like any of the AU I've seen though.
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>>338052529
>0080
It's hardly a surprise that /v/ has better taste in anime than /a/.
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>>338052383
>doesn't even mention chromehounds

despicable.
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>>338052358
>Eva is actually one of the more realistic mecha anime.
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>>338051863

I played Hawken during closed beta, then during open and closely after launch.

Leveling classes takes forever, you cant really customize your machine (being limited to classes with each only having two weapons to choose from + one secondary) and gameplay feels pretty bad overall.
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>>338052752
Who is this semen demon?
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>>338038598
FA babbies hate it because it wasn't fast enough.
Oldfags hate it because it's too fast and the arguably pretty bland rock-paper-sciccors damage types
I like VD, it's a nice mix of both the old and 4/FA. Too bad online is dead though.
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>>338022543

Titanfall is fun. There's still enough people playing it on XBL to find matches quickly. Titanfall 2 is going to be revealed at E3 next month. I expect it to be pretty awesome.
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>>338052752
>not reading the whole post
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>>338051537
So it's a fan remake of Space Cowboy Online? That's neat.
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>>338044316
>mfw what happened to Katz
Even the slap couldn't stop him.
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>>338052942
>I expect it to be awesome.

For about 5 hours until you realize:

>no variety of weapons
>Smart pistol in everyone's hand
>same smg used non stop
>"finally muh Titan"

Yeah real great.
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>>338052529
>TV: Zeta
I'll never forgive Emma death
>OVA: 0080
It's great OVA. But kinda too many little kids and burgers
still probably second best thing to gundam after 08 MS
>Movie: CCA
there is not that much movies to select from to have separate category.
and no - CCA kinda meh
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>>338052383

Critics used to bash Armored Core games anyway, especially the best AC ever made, Last Raven.

Even if AC series would be back, it would be like throwing pearls before swines.

At the same time welcoming simplified and even more detached from reality AC 4 (in before: "all mechas are detached from reality, especially asian ones").
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>>338049147
40k fags in mech threads are cancer
>>338050339
I agree with you but you guys are still cancer
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What's the best armored core game? I never played any.
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>>338052873
v-fins hater
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>>338052383
it'd be fun and all, but From director already said that he plans get back to mecha games instead of milking souls
better wait till fucker actually do tho before being happy
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>>338053259
I guess it was never meant to be.
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>>338051997
>>338052182
What this guy said. Also the early story chapters are pretty bland since they give you an OP as fuck OC donut steel mech, but later episodes that have mook mechs are a lot better. I'd say wait till it's out of early access, otherwise you might get burntout easily.
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What makes a good mech design-wise?

Looking for inspiration and pictures to work off of for 3D modelling
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>>338053232

Best is Last Raven, also the hardest one - so it is not good for newcomers.

If you never played any, try to emulate 2 or something, to test if you like this kind of gameplay.
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>>338022543
Why did this film introduce so many mechs, then immediately killed off all the cool ones?
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>>338053503
make them cool
that's about it
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>>338053126
CCA was something I didn't really like the first time but gained further appreciation after a rewatch. I'm not sure if /m/ is trolling when they say it goes over people's heads, but it really is multilayered that requires some thought to really get. The biggest problem is dumping the viewer in a situation without much context, but I feel like it gives Char the most complex and realistic characterization out of all his appearances. From his hypocritical nature to his Oedipus complex, you get a really deep insight into Char's character, and the rivalry between him and Amuro is multi-faceted.

You really get the sense that the entire UC story was made up as it went along without a cohesive plan, but I think it really worked out.
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>>338053503
It's cool. It's boxy yet sleek. MONOEYE
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>>338053567
ty
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>>338053232
Best traditional controls - Silent Line
Best analogue controls - Last Raven
Both of these are pinnacle of the series.

Emulate 3 and then proceed to Silent Line if you want traditional. If not, emulate Nexus then proceed with Last Raven.
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>>338033334
Why did they ask each other questions if their minds are linked?
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>>338053756
If you don't like the old ones, I'd recommend you to check out 4/FA. They're pretty different especially on the speed side.
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>>338053653
Eh, maybe. Problem is that it got filled with a lot of various crap like Quess and pushing Axis
without them it'd be a better movie.
Dunno, I don't rewatch shows all that often, maybe after another go I'd change my mind. But I really don't wanna
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>>338053503
something red with horn antenna.
trust me.
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Thinking of buying FA or VD, which?
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>>338053191
>40k fags are cancer
Can't really blame them though since Games Workshop just throws the brand around willy-nilly so they have to wade through galaxies of shit to find that one good game.
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>>338054170
VD
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>>338054329
sooner or later they kill servers and then what?
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>>338051537
Oh shit, that looks god damn sweet. Is that going to be an actual game or is it just some kind of hobby for the guy?
>>338052979
What ever happened to that game? Did it die? I remember having tonnes of fun with it. Probably among the few MMOs I actually enjoyed.
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>>338022695
Mechwarrior online is good. Not perfect, not great, just good and fun.
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>>338053503
Depends on the setting.

I'm more for the "boxy" approach, preferably with multiple sets of legs (4 or 6 mostly), often dropping a good part of the humanoid shape (tank with legs).

In any case they are quite large (but not retardedly so), ponderous, move slowly but cover great strides with every step.

Even better if you have combined arms scenarios (mechs, tanks and infantry/power armor in the field)
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>>338053101

Smart pistol is the only legit gripe. Why the fuck does every game need to have 30 weapon you autist?

The Titan combat is what makes the game, even though CoD completely ripped the infantry movement mechanics.
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>>338023828
Battleships, tanks, APCS. infantry, helicopters are all slow, unagile and deadly.
Fast and heavy requires more suspension of disbelief than walking dead.

But honestly mechs are a retarded concept anyway. I'm glad there's all types of games. I just wish mechwarrior came back as a DCS tier simulator
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>>338052383
why is cirno the wife?
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>>338022543
Xenoblade Chronicles X the best mech game ever and the only reason to own Wii U. You can fly freely around big open world and customize you mech however you want. Also you party members can fly mech to and seeing four mechs flying in the sky is just to awesome.
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>>338054562
9
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>>338054393
>Did it die?
Changed hands and was renamed to Air Rivals in US/EU, dunno about Asia.
And even if it is still alive it would be pushing, what, 10+ years?
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>>338053503
Detail. So many mechs are just big metal men that we're meant to believe are robotic. Have things like exposed servos and hydraulics, maintenance hatches, ladders etc.
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>>338054562
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>>338054517
>Smart pistol is the only legit gripe. Why the fuck does every game need to have 30 weapon you autist?
variety
>The Titan combat is what makes the game,
haha, it's worse than hawken. same everything aside of few moments
not to mention mech customatization is complete shit. 3 types with what, 2 weapons? wow
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>>338054575
Pity the actual combat sucks donkey dicks.
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>>338052792
MWO has pretty good customisation. You can have any loadout you can fit on a chassis, including retarded shit like 12 PPC direwolf that oneshots anything but kills itself with heat after 2 shots
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>>338051863
Hawken can hardly be called a proper mech game besides the aesthetic, and it's dead to boot.

MechWarrior Online is the only somewhat active mech game currently. Even with it's grind and pay2win the gameplay itself is pretty good.
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>>338054631
>Detail
wrong
you need JUST RIGHT amount of detail
otherwise it becomes visual mess like bayformers
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>>338054710
it serviceable, tho I'd wouldn't mind if there was less focus on overclock
still better than FFXV
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>>338054517
>The Titan combat is what makes the game
For me, the game became so much more fun when I started ditching my Titan, using it as a sentry weapon, while I go off and capture more control points.
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>>338054780
>P2W
>MWO

The definition of Git Gud or Git Out

Pay 2 not grind more like it.
Still the best Mech game right now. Just stay away from Faction Warfare. It's shit.
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>>338022543
Mechwarrior Online.
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>>338053503
The worst offense is making them too bulky.

Unlike drawing humans or other squishy objects, a metal limb needs clear and defined empty space in order to move. Paying extra attention to the limbs and joints (in terms of detail and how they affect the rest of the design) can really help a model feel more "solid". Even when a design calls for being bulky, following the above maxim will cause the design to naturally start making concessions so it can move, and all that extra detail will help it look mechanical rather than a grey-colored human body part.
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TSFs are sexy.
TACHIAGARE KEDAKU MAE SADAME WO UKETA SENSHI YO
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>>338054780
Grinds not that bad,
I play with kong, 1 day of plainy, around 4 hour session is enough to master 1 mech and make enough money to buy a medium priced mech.

What's really nice is that you aren't forced into retarded tier trees like WoT, Light mechs can be useful and good user can outdamage regular assault or heavy mech user if they're not full shit
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>>338054780
Here's some stats to prove I'm not completely talking out of my ass:

http://steamcharts.com/app/342200
http://steamcharts.com/app/271290

>>338055020
I have 4000+ drops in MWO. The Marauder, Warhammer, Jenner and now the Kodiak heroes are all too damn good compared to the standard variants. I know this because I own the Marauder and Kodiak.
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>>338040309
I picked up the HD Collection the other day and 1's cool but the combat is really mindless. So far, it's just been get up close and mash X.
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>>338054690
>3 types with what, 2 weapons? wow

>doesn't know how many weapons titans have available
>expects to be taken seriously

Titanfall 2 is being made specifically to cater to people like you, and it runs the risk of being shit because of people with shit opinions like you.
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>>338054393
Masangsoft/Yedang didn't renew Galasoft's license for whatever reason so the server had to be shut down. Wyndstryker from Joymus LND started his own company called Subagames and bought the rights to license it in North America under the name Ace Online. Gameforge has the rights to it in Europe, it's published as Air Rivals.

Keep in mind the game is basically an online casino now and players can just keep throwing money at the screen to stay alive. They added grinding maps and safe channels and people generally avoid fighting because it's a fruitless endeavour when your opponent has 120% def or eva. I don't know how the game still manages to stay afloat, but the community that made it great 10 years ago is long gone.

As for that UE4 project, as far as I know it's supposed to be a complete game one day, but all assets are placeholders for now. I don't know if the guy intends to keep the same MMO formula or turn it into a multiplayer deathmatch kind of deal.
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>>338055020
Is it still horrible to start out with if you're not willing to fork cash for hero mech?
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>>338054025
Really Quess only existed to show the way Char used people, and given that role she got too much screen time for her character. Her character receives a little development to show that she attaches to Char as a father figure, but she's too much of a "main character" when the real focus is on Char and Amuro. She gives a lens through which the viewer can see Char's and Amuro's rivalry though.

You can see CCA as an evolution in Char's character. In 0079 he was driven by a desire of revenge. However, with the introduction of newtypes and Lalah, you see Char form a ideology. That ideology is what drives him in Zeta where he is willing to put aside old rivalries. CCA shows a Char who is disillusioned with the situation. He's seen the destruction that happened during Zeta and Double Zeta and he's come to the conclusion that nothing will change unless he takes direct action. That's why he wants to destroy the surface of the Earth despite saying in Zeta that humans have to leave Earth to keep it as the cradle of life. We also see the two aspects of Char from 0079 and Zeta merge. His ideological goals have mixed with his personal rivalries and created an egomaniacal attitude.

Amuro described Char's character perfectly when he says that "revolutions are birthed by intellectuals, but after the revolution mediocrity takes over and intellectuals become recluses." There's a great part where during Amuro's speech, Char causes an explosion that opens a whole in Amuro's space helmet forcing him to cover it in an action that symbolically shows Amuro covering his mouth in tape. Through in Char's Oedipus complex ("Lalah Sune was a woman who may have become a mother to me") and you have a deep look into char.

I think that CCA is the Gundam that most intellectual and relevant UC gundam to say something about post-war Japanese society. If you read a lot of literature about the attitudes of the Japanese after the war, you'd see a lot of things resonate with Char's character.
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>>338055412
Titanfall was garabge. Either cod with wallrunning that felt super layman and easy, worse than recent assassin creeds or cod with slow momevent when you were in a titan. Also added AI for people who are too dumb to kill acctual players and smart pistol for idiots who can't aim. Dissapointing, uninspired. bland, boring carbage for people with no taste or mechanical skill.

Only good thing and real thing the games worth playing for is the asthetic.
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>>338055412
okay, still 3 types of chassis
boring
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>>338022543
Xenoblade Chronicles X
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>>338055204
But the standard MAD-3R is the best tho. You just fell for the boring AC/20 and medicine laser memes.

>>338054554
A mech is supposed to combine the flexibility of a human with the size and strength of a vehicle. Most games don't (or can't) emulate a lot of the things a big metal human would be very useful for, especially non-combat tasks.

I would say that the electronic adaptations of Heavy Gear do strike the best balance between trying to be a game that caters to the expectations of a proper "mech sim" while merging it with infantry tactics. You can actually go prone; how fucking novel can that possibly be? And yet that kind of small detail puts the right character into HG.

I sincerely hope that HGA doesn't die. I did not back it but will be very interested if they manage to produce at least a minimum viable product.
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>>338055520
Lots of mistakes in this post, but that's because I was trying to fit it into the post limit.

>>338054025
I also want to say that pushing Axis was a nice but cliche moment of people coming together for a greater good. I think it's a good contrast to the pessimism that both Amuro and Char display in regards to people and leaves the viewer not completely disenchanted. It's also became one of the movie's most famous scenes.
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>>338055589

Sounds like CoD is more your speed, kiddos. See you around.
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>>338055834
Dunno, all that kinda makes sense, but it doesn't make me like CCA anyway.
Still, thanks for insight.
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>>338055859
>playing online games
how about no
I just saying titanfall is a shit mech game
not that hard of a concept
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>>338055486
No.

Just buy a Hunchback 4G and start popping people with the AC20, and have fun.
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>>338055736
You can have 3xLPL and 3xML in the BH2, while still running a standard engine. Nice alpha, tanky and has jump jets to boot. I have no regrets getting it over the Widowmaker.
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>>338022543
Titanfall is alright. It was a solid foundation, hopefully the sequel has a lot more content.
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>>338054849
>mess
Dunno, i dig the aesthetics
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>>338056539
you are everything what's wrong with modern mechs in western media
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>>338056629
That is good too.
But tons of little detail make my dick hard, never been too much into the "synt-skin" like stuff.
Mechanism, sliding plates of armor, servos exposed as it is getting modified, that makes my dick hard.

If i had the webm of that Sherlock Holmes movie i'd post it.
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>>338056118
I'd say if you can, give it another watch while thinking about Char's character that way. It might not make you like the movie more, but may help you appreciate it.

If you're anything like me, one of the big problems I had with the film was the seemingly jarring shift in Char's character, but it really makes sense if you think about it.

Like I said, I think CCA is one of the more intellectual Gundams at least directed by Tomino. The original three series were focused on the destruction of war but that message is a little simple. Sure you have things like neither side is all good or all bad but again that's nothing too revolutionary. By making CCA more about the personal rivalry between Char and Amuro a lot more interesting things can be said and if you draw parallel to a post WW2 society then I think you can see deeper than the surface.

To be honest, I've rewatched some scenes several times, but I often skip the scenes involving Quess or other side character, and some of the beginning scenes which are only for setup.
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>>338056984
I honestly rather rewatch Patlabor 2nd movie if I want to analyze something
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>>338057420
Patlabor 2 is pretty god as well, and is a nice discussion on the hypocrisy of pacifism in modern Japan that has only become more relevant as the Japanese government pushes for increased militarization and collective self-defense. Really, you won't find much anime like it.
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Cherno Alpha>Gypsy Danger>Striker Eureka>Crimson Typhoon.
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>>338057848
Yes
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>>338056945
Good for you
It's just the problem with such designs is usually lack of character and identity. You feel good at moment you see them, but whole thing doesn't really leave anything behind.
You forget everything about design aside it being busy.
and when design is this forgettable - it's bad design.
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Mechs are inherently childish and should be discarded if Interactive Cinematic Experiences are to be taken seriously as an art form.
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>>338022937
>action and turn based gameplay

how does that work out?
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>>338058313
valkyria chronicles
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>>338052193
Those little fucking turds.
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>>338058313
Valchyria Chonicles
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiNVjkJDsqI

Dat launch sequence. Say what you will but Del Toro knows his fucking mechs.
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>>338052193
Little shits don't know their heritage,
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>>338058313
Ring of Red.
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>Customization of Custom Robo/LBX/Medabots
>Franchise list of Super Robot Wars (Alpha 3's preferably, but having everything would be GOAT)
>SDGO styled multiplayer

Someone give me a winning lotto ticket so I can give Bamco money to make this.
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>>338058839
>SDGO
I miss it
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>>338023224
You are confirmed retarded.
The fuck is the point if mechs flying around? Just make a jet

Mechs are cool because they have weight and heft to them. Theyre the best fascimile to being a giant powerful human that we can suspend disbelief for.

If a mech isnt weighty and has physics to represent that, it isnt heavy and powerful. It doesnt feel like it should. Its just a fart with guns attached.
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>>338033334
its explained that Mako added the sword when she restored gipsy danger so Raleigh wouldn't have known about it fuck the drift tho right?
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>>338059065
>Just make a jet
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>>338022543
Mechwarrior 1 - 4. Especially the mercenary expansion packs.
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>>338059367
Is there a name for "shitton of missiles chase mech" scenes?
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>>338024451
we'll probably get one soon, honestly. I just hope they don't fuck up this time and make matchmaking global, so when the game inevitably dies in the west, you can still play with Japs. I would have put a lot more time into Verdict Day were that the case.
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>>338059065
>The fuck is the point if mechs flying around?
How else I supposed to kick shit out of enemies?
>>338059447
Itano circus
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>>338051537
You mean Robotech right?
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Surprised to not see it mentioned but Front Mission has some good games before the last one turned into a AC clone.
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>>338059462
It might not die in the west this time. From Software has built up a lot of clout with the souls series.
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>>338060135
Souls + AC wouldn't be wrong.

Bonfires are replaced by garages and the usual post-apocalyptic setting means that scavenging parts will have internal consistency with the DS style of loot hunting.
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>>338023224
Armored core did go too far with AC 4. The mechs are essentially perpetually airborne now and only touch the ground if that's what you wanted them to do - which is a disadvantage because 3D movement is better for dodging than 2D movement. The AC mechs really should be jets at this point.

They were at a sweet spot during Nexus and Last Raven, where you couldn't be perpetually airborne and there was still some point to being heavy and ground-based.
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>>338060135
AC is completely different from the souls point of view. In souls as long as you git gud once, you will always beat all encounters, with maybe 2-5 restarts. In Ac however, unless you're real good, you can't beat everything with a single set. That's why the customization is there.
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>>338023224

actually jagers were really fucking fast. Their fists were literally moving at subsonic speeds and they were running at like 500mph
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>>338060445
God fuck off.
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>>338060619
That and even understanding all the stats to build a robot in the first place is mind boggling. Few people want to get into it in a real way.
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>>338060915
not that anon, but I recently played ACV VD for first time and that game really doesn't do good job at teaching you anything
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>>338052085
whos dat
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>>338060490
ACVD has the best movement system since it avoids the strafe-fest of gens 1-3 while having meaningful usage of cover and elevation. It also gives a purpose for legs other than walking around.
I really dislike the RPS damage system but everything else about the game is perfect, prove me wrong.
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Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen.
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