where were you when valve entered PHASE 3
>>338008446
explain, whats phase 3?
>>338008819
http://www.dota2.com/international/battlepass/0/0/
buncha jew shit of course
>>338010278
Well it's all cosmetic so what's wrong with it?
Doesn't Dota give all Heroes/Champions for free?
>>338010447
It's invasive, and deters from the experience. You can pretend not to care, but it doesn't make the hats go away.
Same thing happened to TF2 to an even worse extent, to the point players started doing trade servers
>>338011040
Are you really comparing shitty TF2 hats to coloring the river for 10 minutes?
>>338008446
tfw a game looks so clean, it has the smooth graphics of Runescape, while the old blocky one looks way more better.
Does anybody feel the same way I feel?
Most of the players are already leaving for CS:GO anyway.
>>338011965
>leaving for a game that's dominated by BRs
when are they adding the rest of the heroes to dota 2
>>338008446
>>338010278
>>338011040
this has to be the most autistic thing to complain about
the there is literal no difference in gameplay, and any minor positives/negatives a cosmetic might accidentally add, e.g. accidental transparent textures. are patched out asap
its a solid game you can play for free with your friends, if one out of 10 players wants to look different in some minor and ultimately meaningless way, why should you give a shit.
>>338008446
does -water red work n normal warcraft 3?
>>338012707
This.
>m-muh jews
>>338012114
Theres literally only one hero not ported and its because the developer hates the character and wants to rework it.
>>338008819
>>338010447
the "game" is free but at this point it is so BLOATED with cosmetic bullshit that its really hard to be annoyed with it. Also their business practice is absolute scam-tier: at first you could buy the set or item you liked directly from the store or steam market as soon as it was available, then they started bundling sets with tickets, forcing you to buy that ticket or again go to steam market, the situation now is the following - all the good quality sets are locked behind rng ultra-rare treasure chest drops, which means you can spend hundreds of bucks and still not get the set you want. All items are unmarketable for 3 months after release which means you cant get them off steam market, and ultra-rare drop chance raises the prices on them to the point they become unobtainable. And last but not least - every compendium things get worse: the things that everybody was really looking forward to - the new custom terrain and LC item - are locked behind 50$ and 200$ respectively. Then you get shit like in OP - it doesn't matter what the reward for spending 1000$ or 1200$ is, the simple fact that it exists in first place should ring all the alarm bells if you arent a beyond saving gabe's cockchoking valvedrone
>>338012707
this is going tf2 route except even more expensive and with botched trading. Keep defending valve, maybe it won't happen this time
>>338011040
>It's invasive, and deters from the experience.
it really doesn't
>>338008446
Cumming inside ur mom
>>338013430
>at first you can buy the set directly
The Shop and the Marketplace still exist
>bundled with tickets
Tournament organizers COMISSION artists to make sets for their tournament.
That's how it works, they get control over where to sell it.
>unmarketable for three months
>can't get them
Am I missing something here? You're clearly saying tat you can get them later at the marketplace, for literally a fraction of the price
>spend hundreds of dollars
On a cosmetic item that doesn't affect gameplay to get it a month early than other players who will buy it for pennies. Is that what you're complaining about now?
Buying chests instead of waiting out the trade lock is just a way to show support for the game, not actually how you get the item since there are tons of other ways to do it.
>things everybody was looking forward to
That's not related to your argument, but I'd like to point out that its a lie.
Neither of these items were revealed or linked before their method of acquisition was revealed.
No one was looking forward to them, people knew of their existence at the same time they learned how to get them.
>the new terrain and item are locked at 50 and 200
No it isn't, you need to level up via quests and wagering.
Wagering tokens that get refreshed for every weekend to no extra charge. Heck if the enemy wagers and you win you get enough tokens easy.
If you think your lineup is losing, don't wager. You don't have to pay a cent if you're not one of the people that don't play the game.
>>338015426
hnnnnnghhhhhh
>>338012023
as opposed to a game dominated by russians and cucks?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9RjDRLBWio
>>338013430
pretty my this. but how did anyone not expect this shit from valve?
it's fucking valve
>>338013430
It's all cosmetic
Who gives a shiiiiiiiit
>>338013430
>there are cucks this mad they cant get their fancy cosmetics
fucking lmao
>>338013430
>being this buttblasted over fucking cosmetics
you need a doctor
>>338013430
It's all optional.
That being said, they are still being jewish about it. Don't partake in it and it will go away.
Daily reminder that you are a cuckold if you have ever bought a compendium
>>338011040
'I have autism'
>>338020614
>tfw bought every compendium
>never bought a single cosmetic
>had over 1000 chests
feels good not being poor.
Just don't buy it. Can't blame the merchant, when the customer is retarded enough to buy shit like that.
>>338020850
When you're that bad with money, I'm sure you will be eventually
>>338020976
>compendium literally cost $9.99
>bad with money
holy shit that envy.
>>338021178
Don't start crying about it, go back to stroking your videogames hat collection, I'm sure that'll calm you down
>>338012707
>game uses specific hero appearance to make them recognizable
>cosmetics alter skill effects, apperance, perceived range and colour
>i-i-i-i-iit's not p2w I just gave 400$ to lord gaben for reasons!!! QQ
>complaining about the river bullshit and not that new map
Did they fix the trees?
>>338020614
thicc
> PHASE 3
> D = 4
> O = 15
> T = 20
> A = 1
> 4 x 15 / 20 x 1 = 3
HALF LIFE 3 CONFIRMED
>>338021285
I told ya I don't own cosmetics outside of drops and the cosmetics you got when valve removed chests but keep being envy you salty cuck.
Reminder that you can now pay to make it easier to juke in the trees(Costs about 60+ eur)
Reminder that you can now pay to increase your MMR.
Reminder that if Valve put just half the effort with actual gameplay/balance instead of cosmetic bullshit the game could have been great.
Reminder that Valvedrones actually defend this.
Is it really 900 dollars or is just a marketplace thing?
I dont know anything about dota
>>338011780
The issue is that WC3 displays ALL auras on the ground (including the measly +2 armor auras from basi) and the ground textures are super cluttered and busy, making the game a mess to look at and nearly impossible to track what's going on for anyone who hasn't played tons of it.
>>338021302
>p2w
What a fucking retard
Caring this much about meaningless shit, rofl
>>338008446
>only you can see it
>everyone can see it without the possibility to cancel
fukin jews!!!!
>>338021649
>Reminder that you can now pay to make it easier to juke in the trees(Costs about 60+ eur)
>Reminder that you can now pay to increase your MMR
What?
What is it about dota that managed to leash people so tight
How do people consecutively rack up 50 hours of that one game per week no matter what kind of shit valve pulls
>>338021649
>if Valve put just half the effort with actual gameplay/balance instead
didnt a major patch just come out?
>>338021831
I wouldn't call it major, it was some minor balance patches, a few agh upgrades and they added 3-5new items.
This is after 6 months of zero patches and content.
>>338021795
the map terrain is confirmed p2w, the argument "if you don't know jukepaths already you are scrub" is invalid, since even pros dont know about all the juke paths
valve also now allows you to recalibrate your mmr for 9.99$ and pick between the new mmr or the old one, so in the end you can't lose mmr, only increase it by locking zeus every game.
>>338021831
It was another LoL-patch and no one cares
Meanwhile Overwatch is adding new content and ISNT EVEN OUT YET
I suppose that begs the question of how high could someone possibly get without spending anything more than the initial buy in.
>>338021971
overwatch can't attract players by "you have a chance to win millions dollars too!", nobody in their right mind would take its "esports" approach seriously, so it has to come up with actual content.
>>338021649
you should have learned the juke spots already if you're not a faggot or a scrub just starting
How does increasing your MMR make the game pay to win ? You still have to win games and you won't if you're not in the right MMR.
>___drones will defend this
So this is the safe exit door now if someone BTFO your ass ?
>>338008446
>Playing shitty games
Stop crying and uninstall but you can't cause Dota 2 is the only game you plebs know how to to play, sicking.
>He has a 1,000+ hours on any valve game
>>338022076
people who don't buy additional points end up lvl 30-60, unless you are some turbofag who plays 20 hours a day and predicts everything starting from your match outcomes and ending with tournament outcomes correctly
>>338021971
kys overwatch shill
>>338022081
>"you have a chance to win millions dollars too!"
Nobody plays dota for that. I play Dota because it's a complex and engaging game that never gets stale because of the sheer complexity it has.Also because I love the feeling of landing a black hole on 5 enemy players.
>>338022097
Dude not even the pros knows all the jukespots and can use them perfectly.
Or are you saying that every dota players are suppose to be even better than the pros and be able to juke without an effort? Should they not just remove all the trees if there's no need for the to be there?
>>338022146
what games do you play Mr. Good Taste?
>>338022146
Thanks for your input, retard.
>>338022146
op here, i quit a year ago after clocking 4k+ hours.
>>338022146
>own 400 games on Steam and about half that on GoG
>Like dota because I grew up with warcraft 3 and it's objectively a very well designed and fun game but that doesn't stop me from playing virtually any genre
>nuuuuh its shit because i can't be bothered to try to understand it
Based retard
>>338021285
What a fucking moron XDDDD
>>338022302
Undertale
>>338022380
Anonymous Presents: a Case Study in Addiction
>>338022081
Everyone knows that your esports can only be taken seriously based on how much money you can scam out of autistic bronies to fund your prize pool
should i sell my csgo knife and get myself one of those level 1000 aegises
>>338021963
>+100k
>then -100k over 3 months
I am guessing they will release some +100k patch in a couple of months, and the cycle will repeat.
>>338022380
>objectively a very well designed
LOL
>everyone's having a tantrum over cosmetics
>nobody even mentions paid MMR resets
At least direct your autism-induced rage towards something meaningful you dense motherfuckers
>>338022713
shitter will still be in 3k-4k mmr it won't changes much.
>>338022713
>MMR
>meaningful
>>338022713
If it doesn't decide games, its fine.
Terrain and MMR don't decide games.
They don't give anyone an advantage from when the game starts until when the game ends.
The way they worded the physical aegis giveaway makes me think they're cutting costs on shipping and making you come to them to pick it up.
>Those battle-forged legends that make it to level 1000 will not only [...], they will also be invited to receive The International 2016 Collector's Aegis, [...]
I waited like 3 months for them to ship the previous one and am hesitant on getting one this year. Thoughts?
>>338022838
>Terrain
But it does. If the pay2win terrain can win you a teamfight just because you can juke much easier and find juking people much easier that can decide the game.
>>338022857
>spending your autismbux on a shitty replica
>>338022713
It literally will not change fucking anything.
Every single retard who things they don't belong in the trench are going to jump on it, they are all going to be paired with each other and remain in the trench. because its where they belong. There isn't going to be a mass of shitters rising up.
>>338022857
>level 1000
what are you, a pleb? blood river master race here, i'll let the whole "high" bracket know who's the daddy here.
>ITT: POORSHITS
>>338022954
But it doesn't make it easier, even i knew all those fucking juke spots and i don't play often. The only ones that i didn't know about are the little empty patches in the trees, which don't mean shit unless you are packing 10 tangos.
At least you have the great community
![The_Fox_and_the_Grapes[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/0AZ4wqh.jpg "The_Fox_and_the_Grapes[1].jpg")
>>338022965
>>338023017
>not having a job and no succubus to drain your wageslavebux
lamoing at ur life
>>338023084
>>338023137
>spending your HARD EARNED MONEY on Russian Brony Quarantine Zone
>>338010278
top kek
>>338023078
>It's the Everyone already knows all the jukespots argument.
>>338008446
i like how you complain about that but not the fact that valve now allows mmr resets so shitters can browse reddit for the latest calibration boost methods. pretty much removing any value mmr had.
>>338008446
I thought Dota was all about "paid cosmetics only" and that it didn't affect the gameplay?
How do Valvedrones defend something like this?
>>338023269
>I'm a retard and didn't know about them
>That must mean no one knew about them!
Stay bad, shitter.
>>338023269
What the fuck, is that real
And I thought the arcana AoE indicator things were bullshit
>>338023276
the mmr was already devalued because of thousands of smurfs and account sellers, now its just been made convenient and "official".
I'm glad I uninstalled some time ago, shit is getting more and more retarded
too bad, I actually liked the game
>>338023328
have you won a TI yet? not even pros know every juke path there is
>>338023276
wait dota 2 allows mmr reset?
I actually don't play dota but I play league. From my point of view that seems ridiculous. Why would they add such an option and what is the cooldown on it?
>>338023221
zero gameplay influence
>>338023489
>>not even pros know every juke path there is
>>338023078
then why do you get VAC banned if you use the pumpkin mod?
>>338023489
>not even pros know every juke path there is
>actually lying on the internet
Oh man, i should probably stop falling for your bait.
>>338023489
>I'm a retard and didn't know about them
>That must not even pros know about them!
Stay bad, shitter.
>>338023328
>Valvedrones actually defend p2w cosmetics.
>>338023496
so far its a one time use that comes with the compendium, but it will be available in store for 9.99$ after TI ends
>>338023496
most people complain about being in a mmr that is filled with retards, so now you can get it recalculated to match your skill, no clue how it works though
>>338023565
Because its editing the game files?
Literally every mod that you use with Dota 2 can get you vac banned. Even the one that fucking removes cosmetics can get people vac banned.
>>33802349
with the 9.99$ compendium it does. You can do a 40 games calibration and then decide to switch that mmr with your actual one or keep it there in case you drop lower.
>>338008446
You are a faggot
>>338023647
nah m8 vac bans started coming when people on reddit posted about a streamer using it.
>>338021950
So what?
You don't boost your MMR, you're recalibrated. What you're doing basically doing is paying to cut out a grind. If you're recalibrated at a higher MMR, then you've gotten better as a player, and you're just skipping the grind to get there.
>>338023646
All the retards will go into it, get stuck and stay at the same MMR or maybe even get worse. Its not going to change fucking anything.
>>338021302
>p2w
I swear no one knows what this means anymore
>>338023496
not sure on the number of times, but its a resent change as of this patch that dropped yesterday. why they add it? they same reason they make more 'treasures' then they do actual bugg fixes, money. all those "im stuck in the wrong mmr' kiddies will buy it on their main and smurf accounts. and people saying it wont affect games are wrong after they calibrate to a higher mmr they will lose you games if they are on your team.
WATCH THE FUCKING TAIL
>>338023647
changing ingame models was fine ( some pro used saber juggernaut ), changing map textures was fine, only tower range mod and pumpkin mode were bannable
>>338023706
Well i dunno mani might be just extremely salty that i got fucking vac banned for trying to remove cosmetics
>>338023714
yeah i know
>>338023708
>he doesn't know about zeus recalibration abuse
it was nerfed but its still viable, and its not the only way to "break the system". Smurfing and calibrating isnt about getting gud, rather knowing how to get the most "influence points" during the match.
>>338023708
expect most people are going to be using exploits ie heros with massive heals/ dmg to trick it for higher mmr. so in fact they will be playing worse but getting a higher mmr for it.
>People complaining about the new map making juke paths clear
>Desert map has been doing this for a while now
I don't know where you faggots were then, but that map has helped me so much.
>>338012707
That's why everyone still loves TF2, am i right?
>>338023714
Even if they do recalibrate in a higher tier because they got lucky for their 10 games in a row, they'll just eventually dwindle back to where they were after so many losses.
>>338008446
I cant wait for nobody to give a shit about this and Valve dies
>>338023920
that map was ugly as fuck though and the stupid palms in some places were actually detrimental to visual clarity.
>>338023952
Pretty much, if they are genuinly bad all the shitters will be back where they belong a month after TI6
i dont even play dota anymore and im still gonna get me a replica aegis
Can someone explain to me, someone whose only MOBA experience is3 hours of Heroes of the Stormwhat a 'juke path' is, and what Valve has done to fuck them up?
>>338023952
>>338024047
yeah but these people will be in your games causing you to lose as they get back down to their real mmr.
>>338024009
>that map was ugly as fuck though
Y-you take that back.
>>338023920
>desert map was a free compendium stretch goal for everyone
>immortal gardens map is now a lvl 125 reward
>you can't get to lvl 125 without spending money outside of compendium itself.
Why do I have to pay for maps ? Is there a way to get a cheap map somewhere ? I don't really care about it but changing the map may give me a sense of freshness
>>338024092
nothing and kill yourself.
only hero I played was Visage, got to 4.5k playing him alone
what game is for me?
>>338024096
I usually don't go into ranked during the international anyway, mainly because faggots constantly try any meme builds that win games during.
>>338018451
Huxley was right, not Orwell.
>>338024187
But Valve sells these "Battlepasses" all year now so there's never a time now were those "quest" shit stuff ain't in the game anymore.
>>338024136I have never bought a compendium, I always sold dota items on the market to afford them
I do agree its shitty that its locked behind level 125, but anyone who actually plays dota should be able to reach that easy, heck i'm already at 45 within 3 days.
>>338024164
>extremely aggressive response to an innocent question
This is why I don't play Mobas.
>>338023603
Of course they do
Dotards are basically the Republicans of gaming
It's not the textures I'm worried about.
Check out the new items that add newly colored sparks and sounds to some of the abilities.
So far it's not been a problem to distinguish what's happening in a teamfight by listening to the ability cues and animations, but I can see it getting harder and harder with each new "battle pass".
Remember when Valve removed the alpine Ursa cosmetics because it was "too ridiculous?" At that time Dota 2 still had some standard.
Now it's just like TF2.
>>338024582
i'm waiting for them to add the skin quality rng from csgo/tf2 so when you finally unbox the skin you want after $100 it's covered in scratches with parts missing
>>338024332
keep crying bitch ass nigger
>>338024187
There is now a compendium containment zone for that.
>this is a new courier from valve
>>338024332
Fuck it I got you, man.
Juke paths are routes in the trees around the maps that players can use to escape the enemy team.
These paths we're somewhat difficult see since they weren't clear cut (due to the trees being abnormal shapes, as most trees are).
If you look at the trees on the left in >>338023269, you can easily see the routes since the trees are square shaped.
>>338024959
its pretty
>>338024959
>Not showing the red one
>>338024959
remember when we could unlock all styles without paying and just playing the game?
>>338024986
Thank you for being civil. How are the juke paths being easier to see a problem? Does it make it easier for the enemy to chase you through them?
>>338024332
It's just an underaged /b/ crossboarder
>>338008446
Go home Riot kid, I still remember those buyable wards who where only a few uses.
>>338023646
>>338023730
how does dota mmr work? Is it a flat increase/decrease or is it based on the other players mmr? Does your mmr spike really hard if you win a lot early? In league when I win a lot on a smurf it will raise my mmr very quickly so I am matched vs ppl it assumes are my skill lvl (IE being gold playing with/against diamonds) is it like this?
>>338025230
If the enemy sees you use one they will chase you through it anyway, it only really benefits people hiding when waiting for a gank.
>>338008446
>it's a faggot desperately shitposts about dota episode
Just let it go, OP
>>338025230
The problem is that you get the new map skin by purchasing the little book and either earning the points to unlock it or paying for it.
http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Compendium
People would still complain if this was the case for the default map due to
>muh skillcap
but having it stuck behind a paywall makes it a legitimate problem. They're essentially paying for an advantage.
>At Valve’s 2014 developers conference, employee Kyle Davis explained the thinking behind the strategy. The best way to get players addicted to games, the company had determined, was to give away virtual items of random value and encourage a robust market to trade them.
I can't fucking believe that valvedrones are still a thing
So can we all agree that Heroes of the Storm is better than this shit now?
>>338025384
>>338025337
That does sound shitty. Thanks for explaining anons.
>>338021302
Lol what the fuck are you talking about, I stopped mistaking heroes after like 30 hours of gameplay
If cosmetics really bothers you that much there's several FREE mods that completely remove them
>>338025523
>Shitposting to the max
>>338025523
>paywall for characters
Nah.
I like some of the character niches they filled (Abathur), but otherwise its shit.
>>338025523
>So can we all agree that Heroes of the Storm is better than this shit now?
Smite and Awesomenauts are the only decent ones.
>>338008446
>wc3 dota
>-weather rain
>-music special
>-water RRR GGG BBB
>free
>infinite uses
>valve dota
>weather was added with compedium as a 100 level award
>same thing with music
It was nice of Valve to kill off both TF2 and Dota 2 right before Overwatch comes out
>>338025591
It is the same old morons who eat up F2P locked hero rosters but shit on Dota 2 who shows you can keep a game floating with all unlocked heroes. I play Hots, I played HoN and LoL. locked heroes is fucking cancer and turns it into a semi P2W but they continue to gobble down the shit.
>>338025946
It warms my heart seeing Awesomenauts getting mentioned here
Too bad the game is dead
>>338025646
You can get every character in HotS for in-game gold. It's easy as shit to earn, especially with daily quests. There are new heroes on free-rotation every week too.
>>338012989
Nope, but it's pretty simple to make in trigger editor.
>>338025591
Acting like it's P2W is stupid but Valve began with the "every hero needs to be instantly recognizable" to the point they removed Alpine Ursa set.
Now? There are fucking tons of jarring and plain unfit cosmetics, especially for Pudge and Valve doesn't seem to care about the rules anymore.
One of the best examples of fucking it up with cosmetics is the Slardar set that is red and turns a water creature into a fucking fire creature.
>>338025946
>Smite
Lol, no. HoTS is alright though.
>>338021649
>can now pay to make it easier to juke
Huh?
>>338012707
>void chrono broken for those who payed for it
>challanges fucking up ranked games
>can't get max level without paying a shitton, not just buying it once
>no difference and not invasive
you are either a shill, or just plain retarded
>>338026248
Oh and in general Valve has one upped their jew game. They even turned the seasonal events into P2W shit.
>>338026185
So? It takes a fucking long time to get them. Smite has the best model for F2P ASSFAGGOTS besides DotA as far as characters are concerned.
>>338008446
this page says it has 50 uses each (why isnt it infinite)
>>338026037
>Dota 2 who shows you can keep a game floating with all unlocked heroes
Lets be honest: this isn't applicable with any game.
Dota had a fanbase and a massive company behind it. I doubt LoL would have survived at its inception if they didn't put the characters behind a paywall. HoTS doesn't have an excuse.
>>338026185
>You can get every character in HotS for in-game gold
Yea, no shit. Thats how I unlocked Abathur.
>It's easy as shit to earn, especially with daily quests
It isn't about difficulty. It takes too fucking long to unlock characters even with daily quests.
>here are new heroes on free-rotation every week too.
Again, I know. You even unlock more characters during each rotation as you level. I'd rather have all of the characters unlocked than this bullshit.
>>338026361
>So? It takes a fucking long time to get them.
It does not, unless you only play once a day or something. Seems to me like you just want some shekels deposited into your Smite shill account.
>>338021649
Nobody defends the juke shit, but it's one forest only.
Your MMR shit is just false.
The game is great.
reminder that retards like you browse this board
>>338026395
Blizzard also doesn't have Steam or Steam Workshop, so how are they going to mimic that?
All HoTS is is Blizz's take on LoL, and they used the same business model. Blizzard aren't known for taking risks.
>tfw you love Dota as a game but hate everyone Valve's done with it and doing.
I really hate that it was Valve that took the Dota IP and butchered it, I really love Dota but hate everything about Valve.
I want to play it but I just get so depressed seeing all the bullshit Valve does.
>>338026525
>The game is great
said no sane person ever
>>338026395
Mate.
Fucking Blizzard got Hots, Hots is all fanservice. Hell they could keep it a float. But they are mad or some shit that Icefrog made Valve make shit ton of money so they went and pretty much took TF2 and made TF3 in Overwatch. If anyone can keep something floating, It is Blizzard. They could sell bags of shit with their tag on the bag and make profit.
>>338026252
>Lol, no. HoTS is alright though.
No, HotS is terrible from the gameplay to the paymodel.
Smite has the standard MOBA paymodel (along with other benefits) plus giving you the option to get all current and future heroes for 30 bucks (unlike LoL, HotS, etc). It also has several other non-MOBA modes so you can even play it like a hero arena game if you want.
>>338026585
>Dota IP
There wasn't one, it was a fan made mod.
>butchered it
Giving it a modern engine and global servers is the furthest you can get from doing this.
>>338026615
Thats why I said "HoTS doesn't have an excuse".
>>338026603
But he literally just said it.
>>338026585
Who else should have handled it then? Blizzard just showed you what they do, they make fucking Hots. I see no other company making a better game out of it.
>>338026516
Most of the heroes are 10k gold, most of the daily quests are 200 gold but for argument's sake let us assume it's 300g on average per day.
From daily quests alone ONE hero would take literally a month of daily quests to get, the amount you get from actually playing is really neglible.
>Seems to me like you just want some shekels deposited into your Smite shill account.
Explain to me how "pay 20 dollars for ALL the current characters and everything beyond it" is worse than "grind for years or pay 10 dollars for one character" without complaining about shills.
>>338008446
the consumable actually costs 1,424.75 minimum
>>338026525
>The game is great.
No it's not. The core gameplay they copied over from the mod is solid, but the game itself is pretty fucking bad and is only getting worse and worse (seriously, reddit is basically balancing this game now).
Meanwhile Activision entered god knows what phase.
>>338026708
How is le reddit balancing this game?
>>338026648
m8, Smite is janky af. HoTS doesn't have the most impressive engine (sc2 kek) but Smite makes it look good.
I do like the buy-once option, though. More companies should do that.
>>338026585
old dota was comfy, new dota is "everyone is an esportsman" only played by no-life tryhards or hatfags.
esports kills videogames.
>>338026668
Oh, I rushed a bit. Exactly. Hots got 0 excuses. It is Dotalike/Moba the fanservice game.
This is why I hate Blizzard. Never doing something new, always overpricing their shit expansions (and games) and their games are just polished versions of other games.
The Three B's, Bioware, Bethesda and Blizzard are three fucking asshole companies on the gamer market. Blizzard is yet probably the best of the three.
>>338013698
TF2 is only bad if you want to go on trade or minecraft servers. Stop being a delusional anti-valve drone
>>338026764
>How is le reddit balancing this game?
If you even need to ask this then you clearly don't even play the game.
>>338026395
>>338026361
>Completing the introduction tutorial awards 250 gold, the Basic tutorial 250 gold, and the Advanced tutorial 500g.
>200-800 gold daily quests.
>Reaching player levels 2 and 4 gives you 1000 gold.
>Reaching player levels 8, 10, 20, 25, 30, 35 and 40 gives you 2000 gold each.
>Reaching Hero level 5 on any Hero gives you 500 gold each.
>Reaching Hero level 9 on any Hero gives you 750 gold each.
>Playing a match (non-vs-A.I.) gives you 20 gold, or 30 gold if you win.
>During the Eternal Conflict event they were giving out 100 gold every day.
>Signing up using a recruitment link gives you Raynor and a 5 Day Stimpack for free. You will unlock Sylvanas for free once you hit player level 10.
ARE YOU RETARDED? BLIZZARD IS LITERALLY THROWING GOLD AND HEROES AT YOU!
>>338026764
Because Icefraud probably browses lebbit and therefore it's literally lebbit balancing the game.
What the fuck is with this lebbit spam detection
>>338026867
i can pick servers in tf2, i can't pick servers in dota.
>>338026891
Except that player levels and hero levels are one time only.
Not to mention reaching lvl 9 hero takes fucking long time (when was this added? Was only 5, 15, 20 I think last time).
Still, one time only and far from enough to keep steady unlocking going.
I have had player lvl 40 since Beta (was close to it during alpha), have completed shittons of dailies, have all current heroes except tracer at level 5+ and I still only own under half the roster despite buying all the cheapest ones.
>>338026867
>anti-valve drone
Being anti-valve makes sense.
What doesn't make sense is being pro-valve.
Really, when Valve and Gabe openly goes out and says they support and want to implement paid mods you think people "hating" on valve do so for no reason?
Or how about how all the shady shit they're doing with Dota 2? How they went back on their words? How they implemented premium mods? etc
There are tons of reasons not to like valve.
>>338026891
You only gain an acceptable amount of gold early on by leveling your profile, but after that it turns into a real grind.
>>338026891
>turn on game
>unlock 111 heros
Too slow for my taste.
>>338026878
Are you the memeback guy again?
I don't go to reddit.
>>338026878
>>338026906
>I don't like them nerfing my favorite hero
>Must be reddit!
>>338024290
what don't you understand that you have to spend money to get it
>>338026878
https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/3ggo8m/invoker_buffrework_masterzeds_solution/
>>338027057
Wins = more gold. git gud
Also, use the daily trick where you keep 2 daily quests stocked so you have a better chance of getting the 800 gold quest the next day.
>>338021479
What is the purpose of this post?
>muh funny memes guis, be sure to upboat me on leddit
>>338027184
this post resulted in the cancer invoker meta that lasted for months. Now tell me that reddit isnt the one balancing the game or that its not a bad thing
>>338027121
The list is too long to even count. Even reddit made a long compilation post of all the stuff Valve implemented that was asked about and upcoted on reddit.
>>338027153
This has nothing to do with nerfs. In fact changes and buffs are more of an issue. For example release OD was considered dogshit by reddit, so Valve kept buffing OD despite not being out for even a month or participating in any competitive matches.
What happened then? OD got overbuffed and then the same reddit crowd kept complaining about OD being strong when pros picked the hero in competitive (he was still in CM despite the changes, while a nerfed Riki was left out of CM).
Then we have the fucking massive joke that is LC and her multiple retarded Aghs changes and countless shit more.
>>338027098
hurr durr more heroes means my game is better
enjoy your trash
>>338027284
A win is barely worth that extra.
>>338027315
I really don't understand whats wrong with that post?
Everything he said seems to make sense and is an improvement to invoker, do you just hate that it was posted on reddit instead of here?
>>338027284
Which, again, still takes a fucking long time.
>Wins = more gold. git gud
And still, far from enough.
There's just literally no way you could claim that paying $20-30 for all the characters is worse than grinding a month for a single character (or pay $10)
Why does /v/ hate Dota and CS so much? They are so much fun.
>>338027407
Please.
LoL got more heroes, HoN probably too. And locked behind walls. Stop protecting bad fucking unlock mechanics, Bitch on Valve, yes, but be consistant in the bitching. Valve sells you shit cosmetics, give free hero roster. Most other games sell you shit cosmetics, shit bosters and shit hero roster.
please tell me if this even legal
>>338027541
>Why does /v/ hate Dota and CS so much? They are so much fun.
Pong is fun too. So is playing with sticks when you're 3 years old.
>>338027497
Hots heroes are the most unique heroes of moba genre.
>>338027541
/v( hates everything. I do not think there is one game that the overall community enjoy around here.
>>338027541
because theyre team based games and they have no friends to enjoy them with
>>338027392
Show me that list then. OD wasn't good enough then
>>338025523
>literally pay2win
lol
>>338027542
>>338027576
It's not even a proper wheel, same deal with the pachinko and chest opening shit.
It's a set percentage (with a very high percentage ot get trash) and the rest is just a lightshow.
It's borderline legal gambling.
>>338027576
At this point they don't really care, CS: GO cosmetics is nothing but gambling activity at this point. Underage people consistently do it because nobody gives a shit.
>>338027606
What the fuck are you smoking? Lay off that stuff.
>>338024959
woah look at all these particle effects. This is how you know its rare and expensive
>>338027617
>Show me that list then.
Why don't you look it up yourself, ask reddit or keep more tabs on the game. I couldn't care less about your ignorance. I'm not getting paid to educate idiots.
>>338027497
Why would you go on the internet and tell lies?
>>338025523
You mean Heroes of the Ancients my dude
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmzbIg6lUQ
>>338027541
Because it's successful.
>>338027392
>release OD was considered dogshit by reddit
Release OD was considered shit by fucking everyone, I remember the god damn shitstorm here about it.
>>338027407
Dota also has custom games and get this,
don't be upset nowThe hero's are free and you don't have to unlock them
>>338027734
What am I lying about? Please, elaborate.
>>338027683
Some of them are. They're gimmicky as fuck.
Abathur is like an IO that can't teleport its teammates but instead buffs them from afar.
They have an ogre character that you have two people control at the same time.
>>338027731
Like I said, I don't go to reddit. Why are you so buttmad?
I bet it's nothing related to balancing, only UI shit or typos or something
>Sir, they're criticizing Dota 2!
>Did you remind them that all the heroes are free?
>YES BUT IT'S NOT WORKING!!
>>338027542
HoN sells better cosmetics than DotA2 or LoL and all the characters are free. The HoN original characters are also really great
>>338027801
Cho'gall is pretty much the only real unique gimmick hero I can give it that. Wouldn't work in other games either for the same reasons as Abathur below.
Abathur wouldn't even work in other games because lack of shared exp and need to acquire currency.
>you live in a time where Heroes of the fucking Storm is a better alternative assfaggot than LoL and Dota 2
>>338027747
Please go home /JPdots/. You turned way too much into a circlejerk to be enjoyable to play with.
>>338027941
Oh man, you blizzshills are getting real desperate now that Overwatch is turning out to be a flop.
>>338013221
>>338012114
Pit Lord is a hostage till he can be included in some event.
Diretide 2016 will be winner of Arcana vote + Pit lord
>>338028049
>now that Overwatch is turning out to be a flop
>>338028049
> now that Overwatch is turning out to be a flop.
Because a tf2 player on 4chan said so?
>>338028049
>getting triggered this hard
How is Skele-, I mean Meme Ghost King?
>>338027941
That's because all assfaggots suck anyways.
>>338027941
That's how it's like in the parallel universe?
>>338028049
>Overwatch is turning out to be a flop
Are you really that delusional? Should I even mention that it's not out yet?
>>338027920
The only thing he thats true is the juke thing and thats relatively new. (compendium came out just a few days ago) The game is still miles better then league or HotS. Also the person in charge of balance is icefrog not valveBut I haven't been too sure about that since 6.83
Even then Like I said, if you really wanted to go back to an old patch, you could make a custom game for it. There is one for 6.83 right now
Comestic shit was the reason why I stopped playing this game. Looks less and less like the game I fell in and love and played.
>>338027738
>open video
>first thing I see is a disclaimer saying Blizzard wants to take down my free mod
Keke didnt expect anything less from these jews
>>338028241
Sounds alot like how Minecraft ended up :^)
>>338027734
Hello? What am I lying about?
Hello??
ARE YOU OKAY?
>>338028232
>Are you really that delusional?
Well, he's a Dota player, so probably
