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I just finished AC Assault Horizon Legacy + and I fucking loved
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I just finished AC Assault Horizon Legacy + and I fucking loved it, not the best, but a damn good entry.

Lets do it then, Ace Combat thread?

>Favorite Mission
>Favorite Game
>Favorite Track
>Favorite Aircraft
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>>338006460
>Megalith
>Zero
>Avalon
>F-15E

If you disagree I respect your opinion
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>>338006460
>Assault Horizon Legacy
It's Ace Combat 2
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>>338006460
>Zero
>AC0
>Epilogue: Near the Border
>real ones: F/A-18 Super Hornet
>fictional: ADFX-01 Morgan
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>>338007992
Well. Yes. But no.

It is not a direct remake.

It's a redux rather. It features all the best loved gimmicks from every other AC. It's fun as fuck too.
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>>338007992
You haven't ever actually played AC2, right?
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It's the 3ds version, right? So I guess its worth checking out? Ive been wondering if its worth its price.
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>>338006460

Zero Gravity
3
Comona https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G1ob5jnuSo
Su-37 Super Flanker
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>>338006460
Beat 4 but I ordered 5 and Zero a few days ago so I guess I'm qualified to post here
>Favorite Mission
Siege of Farbanti
>Ran out of missles before going head to head with the last Yellow Squad member
>4 minutes of intense jousting before I get under him and unload the last of my bullets and get the kill
>mfw
>Favorite Game
4, although I'm excited to play Zero
>Favorite Track
Comona or Tango Line
>Favorite Aircraft
F-15S/MTD, any aircraft with air-to-ground missiles is nice
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<<rise>>
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>>338006460
>Invincible Fleet
>Zero
>Dead Ahead
>Super Hornet
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>Any Ace squad vs mission
>Zero
>Zero
>SU-37
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>>338009636
Absolutely, its really fun. Like others mention, it takes some things from 2 and changes it up. Looks and plays fantastic for a 3DS gmae too. The "+" version allows for use of the New 3DS nub as well.

>Favorite Mission
Zero
>Favorite Game
4 tied with 5
>Favorite Track
Like a Rising Phoenix
>Favorite Aircraft
F-14A tied with the X-29A.
As for Strangereal planes it goes to the ADF-01 Falken.
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>>338013754
>Ran out of missles before going head to head with the last Yellow Squad member

Just rearm by using the return line and spam QAAMs at the yellow squadron. It completely trivialized the fight.
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>>338015965
Theoretically you could trivialize every mission (except Megalith) in the game if you just resupply at every given chance, there's no fun in running away every time you start getting your shit pushed in especially with my little situation.
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>>338006460
Honestly, I didn't like the game until I could upgrade my mobility since I using the evasive moment qte didn't always work for me and missiles had better mobility than I did. But once I figured out how to do high G turns, it was a fucking blast.

> favorite mission
When Stonehenge starts shooting at you after you blow up some solar panels. I love missions like that, trying to avoid the superweapons.

> favorite game
That's tough, I love the holy trinity almost equally. Probably have to go with 4 because of based skyeye and mobius 1.

> favorite track
Everything in 0. 4's briefing music gets a special mention also.

> favorite aircraft
Foxhound
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>>338006460
>>The Liberation of Gracemaria
>>Zero
>>Revelation
>>F-15E/F-15C
I dream of an AC where we can cooperatively siege a giant area with superweapons and defenses, kind of like how Infinity did their bonus missions but without the retarded fuel limitation. I want to run huge, Ace-level missions with other people. I want 24-man furballs.
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Always wanted to get into AC. Seems like a good time. Where do I start?

Have some tiddies
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>>338018295
4
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>>338018295
4. You can either move on to 5 or Zero at that point, depending on whether or not you want to do those games chronologically or by release. 6 after that, but be prepared for a stepdown in quality. Stay the fuck away from Assault Horizon.
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>>338018295
Play through the holy trinity in release order, 4,5, then 0
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>>338018392
>>338018498
>>338018513
Thanks fellas. Guess I'll load 4 onto my ps2 hard drive.
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>Electrosphere
>Electrosphere
>The Execution
>Su-43

Still kinda pissed they didn't gave AC3 a proper localization
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>>338018295
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>>338018828
one day brother
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>>338018828
It's a shame AHL sold poorly, maybe AC3 would also get a remake otherwise.
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>>338006460
>EX Mission 4 (From AHL see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAX3vNVN8xs)
>Zero
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrB_Fd-USCA
>Non-Superfighter: Su-47
>Superfighter: CFA-44
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>>338019073
Well thanks!
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>>338019241
>3:47 on the EX mission
Holy fuck 4 FALKENs all with TLS I gotta get this game now


>>338006460
>ZERO in an F-1 on ACE
>Air Combat 22
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzaKFHOdEwg
>YF-23
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>>338019512
>Air Combat 22
A man of absolute fucking grand taste right here
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>>338006460
>probably Siege of Farbanti, or Bastion
>Electrosphere. Yes, I've only played the western release
>Frozen Soul
>Su-37 or the Delphinus planes in AC3
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>>338019241
Su47 is a superfighter. They made 3 prototypes. 2 crashed/esploded and the third has never been 'completed' to deployment standard. It was always a tech testbed only. AC's su47 is a fully functional version so it's a superfighter
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>>338019608
you should get the patch for disc 1 of AC3.
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>>338019840
What I meant by Superfighter was Fictional planes. Su-47 actually existed so it's not fictional.
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>>338019840
>It was always a tech testbed only. AC's su47 is a fully functional version so it's a superfighter

By this logic the YF-23 would be counted as a "Superfighter" but no it somehow isn't.
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>>338020424
Its a shame the CFA costs so goddamn much in Infinity otherwise I'd fly it more.
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>>338020586
n
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I love the explosions in AH
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>>338021075
Not bad
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>>338020586
>missile delay
It's shit.
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>>338021075
Seeing this again reminds me how bloody long the Valley of Kings was and how bloody short they made it for infinity
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>>338021265
>Missile delay is shit
The faster you get a lockon the less delay there is, and I'm not using it for the missiles if you catch my drift.
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>>338021453
The delay is consistent no matter how fast you lock on. The problem is the weapon bay opening animation, and lock speed doesn't do anything to change that. Fucking AH engine ruining everything.
EML would be pretty cool but I wouldn't want to put up with missile delay on standards just for that, since the ammo is kinda shitty.
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Anyone a bit worried that AC7 is using Unreal Engine instead of them sticking with their own engine?
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>>338021743
>The delay is consistent no matter how fast you lock on. The problem is the weapon bay opening animation, and lock speed doesn't do anything to change that.

What I was meaning is that the faster and longer-range you lock on from, the more time you have for the bay animation, therefore less missile delay time.

>EML
According to the nips and people who've gotten the EML its actually really good, capable of downing red HARD targets in a shot.
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>>338021951
Yeah, but the delay itself is annoying as shit. I want my missiles to fire when I press the button. I don't want to have to wait half a second for the bays to open before they'll fire, because that throws off my rhythm. It was so much simpler in the older games when the bays would open as you were locking on so your missiles were ready to go by the time you needed them.
Not like it matters anyway since the CFA is fucking impossible to afford in any case. May as well just go for a 750 cost plane, since you can get them to level 20 for the same price it'd take to get it to like level 10.
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>>338022494
>a 750 cost plane
It's a bit late for me I'm afraid, I already have the F-5 Shin Kazama at level 17

and I'm enjoying every second of it
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>>338022597
>not levelling an idolplane with your 3 star forms instead
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>>338022494
Take the falken. Im having no problems with its internal missile bay. It opens quick as fuck.

Also, if you really want the CFA-44, might as well take the -SL- or strigon leader.
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>>338021875
Nah. UE4's fine.
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Post your aircraft sets. Too lazy to get a proper pic
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Which game should I play first if I want to get into the series?
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>>338023430
see
>>338019073
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>>338023430
>>338018295
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>>338022895
Falken turns insanely expensive past level 12, so that's no good either. If I wanted a high cost missile delay plane I'd just buy M1 off the medal store, since it's only 66 medals. It's reasonably priced even at 850 cost since it's based on a 750 cost plane.
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If only AC:I's power creep wasn't so fucking insane and it actually has some new content that pulls people in. And hope AC7 turns out good
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>>338022842
Actually I already have a level 20 F-15E CH, I just wanna see how far it is to paradise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SowhxMT3dzE
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>>338024197
>yfw level 20 nickname is actually How Far To Paradise
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>>338024281
Apparently its actually "Devil's Welcoming" while the F-20 Kazama's one is "Scorching Unicorn". Disappointing Bamco. In other news pic related. (Spoilers for Area 88)
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>>338024148
The power creep isn't actually that bad. Most of the planes that were viable at release are still good now, provided you get them to a high level. The only problem is that getting them that high is grindy as shit.
You're right about the lack of content though. It's the game's second year anniversary in a few days and they only have 11 standard maps in the game. I don't know why they haven't ported literally every map from AC6/AH. It can't be that hard.
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>>338024468
>Spoiler
Holy shit bamco you fucks
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>>338024529
Shit they are literally reusing all the old assets from other games anyway. at this point they could rip the maps from all the past PS2 games and make a quick mission out of it.

At the very least they should start making special multi mission raids or something. maybe super mini coop campaigns you can do. Anything really at this point.
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>>338019073
There's a slight inaccuracy in the description of AC5. At those points in the story where you can choose different missions, the game doesn't give you the choice directly. Instead, it's based on your answer to one of the yes/no questions you get in the preceding mission.
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>>338024920
I don't know if the PS2 games would work since they're all low res and shit, but they should definitely reuse AC6/AH maps. I mean, they already have reused a bunch, so why not do the rest? As much as I appreciate the remake of Excalibur, I can't help but think that they could have ported at least two old maps for the same amount of effort, and two is better than one. Especially since the raid system means I can only play that one when the game feels like it.
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>>338023245
>tfw 35 million credits but don't want to spend it in case they come out with a level cap increase in the next update
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>>338025127
They could have changed it so you can choose between two raid missions when you finally get one to pop up. maybe a re-roll option.

Not that it will happen.
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Something about the whole "alternate Earth" idea really does it for me. Maybe because it gives the developers creative freedom to put in whatever they want without being burdened by real-world politics. It's one of the reasons I had such high hopes for a game called Vector Thrust, which tries to sell itself as an Ace Combat successor and also takes place in its own world. It also has modding support. Unfortunately, it has a dire lack of content (the campaign isn't even finished), and it also doesn't have cockpits. It's a damn shame. A good, moddable Ace Combat clone would be a dream come true.

Are there other jet fighter games that are like Ace Combat, or that can be made that way with different realism settings?
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>>338006460
You need a circle pad pro for this right? I tried playing it without and it feels impossible to down anyone without using the "press button for instant win" function.
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actually playing through the trinity right now, just finished my 2nd ace playthrough of 4. jesus i didnt realize just how much you need to grind to have enough to purchase all the jets. ive got the top 5 and bottom 5 all bought but im still 10 million credits short for the rest. moving onto 5 tonight.

actually planning on making a hype trailer once im done with 6. give it a few weeks, already got all my highlights for 4.

on that note, ace combat 4 is just about 15 years old and its still a goddamn blast to play. megalith is still absolute god tier, not even nostalgia goggled either.
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