Who are you maining, /v/?
Who /greenskinMasterRace/ here?
Discuss lore, gameplay, and skellies.
>only 7 days left
>I can still remember watching the announcement trailer months and months agoHNGGGGGGG SO CLOSE
>>338000876
Can you believe it, friendo? A little week and we'll be going to war with out favorite races.
>>338000509
I want to play greenskins, but the vamps have some rad mechanics. Tough choice. Though, I haven't seen any chaos gameplay yet.
>people are excited about a Total War game after the giant dump that was Rome II
Is anyone ITT seriously NOT maining Chaos?
>>338001181
See here and be made pure, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKv4A0GA3Qw
>>338000509
*please dont be rome 2: warhammer*
Having never played a warhammer game of any type.
Would this be a good jumpoff point?
>>338001238
>>338001289
Different engine gentlemen, different engine.
>>338001349
You would not be lost in this game.
According to the the gameplay demonstrations and stuff, there seems to be a lot of lore integrated. And you'll get to see a lot of the armies up close, so you won't feel lacking there.
medieval 3 when
I can't wait to spend buckets of money before getting all the armies.
>>338001507
I too wish for this.
>>338000509
havent been following this games development as much as i should have
are skaven in?
>>338001679
Lizardmen would be ballin'. I'd love me some edgelord-elves too though.
>>338001769
Nope. Another race for DLC I assume. Chaos is on the house now though.
>>338001480
Thanks. Ill probably end up getting it then.
>>338001238
>look I posted it again!
>>338001274
We're not underage, so no.
That being said, fuck off kiddo. No brats allowed here
>>338002374
I can sense your erectile dysfunction through the screen.
>>338001769
Game is getting 3 installments, CA confirmed all factions with rulebooks will be getting releases.
Probably maining VC until the inevitable Dark Elf DLC. I play DE on tabletop, so I know their units pretty well.
Just hoping for the Fap Chariot for VCs.
>>338000509
Greenskins and Empire. But if the game is good I'll probably play through the game with every faction.
>>338000509
The lore seems all fucked up. I've never played a Total War game, but I've played WHFB (and Orcs & Goblins at that) for years. Why are Grimgor and Azhag running around at the same time?
![latest[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/JzfqF8F.jpg "latest[1].jpg")
Honestly I'm probably going to hold off playing it since none of the races I want are in yet, but everything looks like they're building off the positives of Attila so looks good.
who dwarven gunlines here?
>>338002824
its because TW:WH is supposed to be timeless instead of following a historical pattern where time progresses.
>>338003360
Mein Negro.
Anyone here going to be spamming gyrobombers for that sweet vietnam experience?
>>338006710
I'm all about that Goblin Bomber life. Re-enact WWII, for historical purposes of course.
>Bretonnia multiplayer only
Campaign bretonnia DLC confirmed
I want high elves, but they're across the ocean and navies don't seem to be a thing in this, so I doubt the future race planned is them.
The fact that there are people right now who don't want to raze the old world with 3 full stack of orcs is confusing for me
Every army led by a Warboss on a Wyvern with a trusty set of shamans to buff the front lines
Giants, Trolls, and Boar Boys barreling through the enemy lines and into the chewy ranged center
Then a massive horde of Orc Boyz with elites peppered around to grind the enemy into a fine paste
All the while goblin bowmen harass the flanks and a few fanatics appear to give the enemy a nasty surprise
>>338000962
For only an additional $19.99units not included :^)
I really hope this game does well and GW goes "Huh, maybe we should let them do a 40k TW."
Not gonna happen, but I can get my hopes up. Replace naval with space battles and boom, you have 40k TW.
looking at the gameplays the unit designs look like a colorful mess of shit. unit graphics took a huge step back.
>People in this thread want MORE factions
We're getting dwarves, hummies, Orks, Chaos and you people STILL want more? Fuck off, game isn't even released and you cunts already want to ruin the balance it has going for it. This isn't Street Fighter 5 or Overwatch that is releasing as is with bare bones content and hoping hype carries it through. Game has dozens of gameplay videos, lands, maps, cities and more.
This might be a case of being entitled this one time.
>>338008309
I just want wandering beastmen with horde mechanics to spawn constantly to slow down early expansion in the game.
>>338008309
WHERE'S MY FUCKING SKAVEN. WHY DID GREENSKINS GET IN WHEN THEY'RE JUST A BUNCH OF DUMB APES STUCK IN A CONSTANT CIVIL WAR
>>338002676
>Dark Elf
My brother!
>>338001376
Hahaha no, it's still warscape. The plus side is it looks like they're continuing the good work they did with Attila after getting their heads on right
>>338007741
You sound like you are of correct mind.
>>338002824
Why should I give a fuck?
>>338008309
>balance
Who. The fuck. Cares?
I cannot fathom who plays TW games for the balance of it. It'll be a mess because it's always a fucking mess.
But that's part the reason it feels so good when you overcome incredible odds.
>>338008517
Because time was limited so they went with the most popular races to ensure they got most of the fan boys. Sorry that even in video games, you're picked last but we can't all be winners and winners aren't losers.
>>338000509
>tfw 750 ti
>tfw probably can't run it for shitThis was supposed to be a temporary replacement, goddamn it.
>>338000509
I was going to pirate this because fuck buying a total war game at launch
>>338008309
Look they're going with releasing fewer faction but fleshing them out more and that's fine, but I really don't care about any of the factions they're letting through the gates first
>entitled
I know you can be a better person than this
>>338008926
You can probably run it on the lowest if you don't mind console-frames?
>>338009097
>I know you can be a better person than this
I'm not so sure anymore.
>>338002595
There will be 3 Total War Warhammer games or 3 large expansions?
>>338009097
>I know you can be a better person than this
Sorry, it's just that being outrageous and offending seems to be the only way to discuss this game and while I may not have ill intentions, I'm happy the game is releasing next week and would like to discuss everything about it, even if it isn't in a positive atmosphere.
>>338008926
The 760 is the recommended gpu for high preset at ~45fps so you shouldn't be in that bad of shape.
>>338009284
3 standalone titles that combine into one giant campaign.
>no Tomb Kings
>>338001376
It's an upgraded version of Warscape, an engine that should have been scrapped in 2010 but has somehow dragged along.
I havent heard shit about this game and know nothing about it.
Is like Dawn of war or something?
>>338009565
They're coming in the next expansion.
>>338009630
Don't worry, the engine still works
>>338009658
How convenient that they released this video not even 24 hours ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUW0UJWpfUQ
>>338009565
good
>>338009658
no, it's total war with a warhammer skin
>>338009658
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUW0UJWpfUQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1p7d_nVBS8
I was just watching the vids they have on topics and more to keep in touch with things to keep an eye out for.
I didn't choose the dwarf life, the dwarf life chose me.
As an aside, thank Christ they started making this game before Age of Sigmar became a thing.
>>338009565
>he wants Tombfags
There's a reason you people aren't welcome anywhere.
I haven't been keeping track, are vampire counts a playable race? or at least confirmed for dlc?
>>338009803
Man, that trailer is awesome.
>>338009989
yes, right out of the box
>>338009807
That looks pretty fucking neat, seems like match of some sort of civ game overworld with other strategy games involved inside.
If i can play as a skeleton race, i will pre-order this shit
CHAOS MASTER RACE
>>338010083
That's pretty dope, I'll probably get it then
I'm going to wait for the reviewson /v/before I buy, but I really do have high hopes for this.
>>338009803
This makes the game look a lot more complicated than it is.
>>338009658, you should know that a lot of what this trailer talks about can be automate, and auto-resolved, if there are some aspects you don't like.
>>338010143
You can. You can play as the Vampire C(o)unts, who are big on necromancy and skellingtons. You'll leave the battlefield with a bigger force than when you came, if you play it right.
>>338010143
Skeletons are the backbone of the Vampire Counts.
>>338010349
>>338010372
Bullshit
If i can do that, it means that i finally found the game i was looking for since i played Diablo 2 where i wanted a army of skelibros to dominate towns and fuck shit up rising the dead.
>>338000509
I'll play as chaos desu, horde factions are a great deal of fun, and surprisingly orks are not a horde
>>338000509
>they allow mods
So fucking happy
>>338010443
Perhaps I should have opened with this, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T-omKwUOIU
Where my Dwarfs at?
>>338010490
Chaos is the only true way to roll. All these Imperialfags will meet my blade soon enough.
Who the fuck plays fucking Imperials anyway? It's a fantasy game. Not generic history shit.
>>338010443
The spellcasters literally get a spell which raises the dead right there an then. And the main meat of your army comes from raising the dead from ancient graves or battlefields. If the area you're in was the location of a big battle, more corpses to raise.
Skeletons, zombies, skeleton lords, skeleton horses, zombie dragons, crypt ghouls, even more skeletons.
>>338010443
check their twitch channel for vampire count gameplay. It might be what you're looking for
>>338010532
/v/ introduced me to Shogun 2 and I loved it. I almost, almost bought Rome 2 but since I'm not a huge RTS fan, I usually wait for a price drop. Sticking to my morals saved me from getting butt fucked by Rome 2 and all the fiasco that followed it. Even so, I'm taking the dive this time with Total Warhammer. I like RTS, I like Warhammer, I'm 80% certain the footage we're getting is what the actual game will be so it's a win/win for me.
I'll get it on GMG for a hefty discount too.
>>338010619
>>338010770
>>338010787
>mfw thought the entire video
Yup, i just got hyped and preorder it, this is literally the game i was asking for since i was 12
God damn i cant wait
>>338010734
>not wanting to play as normal humans, surviving against all of the hellish monsters and superhuman races of a fantasy world
>>338010707
Right here brother, right here! You got your book and your ink ready for some names?
But isn't it Sigmarines now?
Why are they still pushing the old Warhammer Fantasy meme?
>>338011208
Cause AoS is fucking cancer
I've never given a fuck about Warhammer Fantasy, but I do appreciate that it's getting some love.
>>338010924
Technically there's 2 factions that use skeletons. Vampire counts and the Tomb Kings.
The Tomb Kings are literally just Skeleton Egypt. They use NOTHING but skeletons. Their entire army is fucking skeletons. No Zombies, no fancy ghouls. Skeletons. Even skeletons anubis, skeleton horses, skeleton lizards and even giant fucking skeleton cobras. All with a sprinkling of Egypt.
>>338009565
I really like that they seem to be taking a more roleplaying focused narrative with this game.
I always love playing a wicked king or a peasant lord in these games, and I enjoy that they seem to accommodate that.
>>338011276
From my googling searches so far, it seems that that skeleton faction is going to be some sort of DLC or mod right?
>>338010924
There's even talk of a second skelly-faction called the Tomb Kings for the upcoming expansion.
>>338011276
Most of their bestial units aren't skeletons.
>>338011475
They are probably going to be one of the major faction in one of the expansions.
>>338011492
not in this universe
>>338011475
They're making 3 big expansions, all will most likely have 3+ races in them. The stand-alone expansions will work with previously-bought expansions, so it'll all come together to let every race clash on the fields.
Tomb Kings are heavily implied to be in the first expansion.
So is there even diplomacy in this game? I always loved the diplomatic layer of TW but here it seems extraneous, only 2 of the 5 factions are even capable of proper diplomacy.
>>338011579
Not him, but how does that work? I thought Tomb Kings were canon for Warhammer fantasy?
>>338011607
>They're making 3 big expansions
Only if you count the first game as one of those expansions.
>>338011682
He's joking. They got cut when GW rebooted the series with Age of Sigmar.
>>338010924
you also get ugly vamp chicks with big tits
>>338011681
There IS diplomacy, see the "What is Total Warhammer" video for a quick peak.
Though I don't think that's the real focus of this game.
I don't know though, but I know it hasn't been spoken of much so I wouldn't expect it to be an infinitely promising aspect. Like you said, I don't see the orcs being too diplomatic, and the skellies don't need diplomacy as all that ends when you go in the grave anyway, so why bother?
I've been wrong before though.
>>338011841
that's all I've ever wanted
>>338011773
Oh, thanks for the answer. I'm not any good at this lore-stuff, but I'm still hyped as hell for this game.
>Age of Sigmar
I keep hearing that no one likes this, but what's wrong with it? Is it the progression of the timeline, or the re-writing of the races or something?
>>338011841
>ugly
I will fight you
>>338011841
>he doesn't like cute vampires
Leave now, greenskin.
>>338011841
Preorder confirmed
>>338010707
I can't wait to retake the mountains and the lands with dwarfbros.
We are the only correct choice.
>inb4 mad orcfags
>>338011970
Literal fucking cancer. Best you not know about it.
>>338011970
It essentially tore up everything about Warhammer Fantasy, and threw it in the bin to start over from scratch. With the main human faction having a striking resemblance to Space Marines from 40k, hence the nickname Sigmarines.
No one wanted it, no one likes it. And the rulebook on release was fucking stupid and half written.
>>338011970
It's just the worst thing ever. All shit all the time. The less you know the better. Just be glad the game isn't based on it.
>Warhammer Total War 2 in 2025 will be Age of Sigmar shit
>>338011841
>ugly vamp chick
Spotted the dwarflet.
>>338001238
But anon Atilla was good.
>>338012348
Maybe the new CEO will have unfucked AoS by then.
>>338012412
I don't know man, I don't think there's much saving AoS.
>>338010707
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvJsG4F2Img
Anyone that isn't playing a Dwarf is playing is wrong.
>>338012348
>>338012412
The slight change to a new direction with the most recent AoS stuff gives me hope that they might be TRYING to make it less awful.
Sounds like they're going to start shifting things.
>>338011962
>>338011993
>>338012034
>>338012052
>>338012404
>all these (you)s
calm down waifufags, I have nothing against vampires, but her face is goofy and massive honkers dont make up for that
Where my Ogre boys at?
>>338012873
I would love a full ogre army. But the way the game handles them I don't think we'll see them beyond individual "large creatures".
Until mods.
Mods may fix that.
>>338012995
I fear you'll be right.
but I just want to play an army of fat fucks, and eat and kill my way through the old kingdoms.
>>338012995
Low upkeep, 60 in an group.
Or is that too insane? Fuck it.
>>338010861
Rome 2 is pretty good with empire edition. It took them a year to fix it, but its solid now. You should pick it up when its on sale.
>>338000509
>not calling it Total Warhammer
>>338013181
I still think it's a missed opportunity but muh brand name
>>338013050
>army of fat fucks, and eat and kill my way through the old kingdoms
Have you heard the good news, brother? Orc exist.
>>338012683
>change to a new direction
>Elves witches replaced by males
>Black Warpriests
>Elves looks like Eldars
>Zero setting detalization
>Iron Horde
>Sounds like they're going to start shifting things.
GW, please
>>338013181
>marketing
If it's one thing these people have proved it's that they don't know how to sell ice cream in Sahara.
![Ogre-Kingdoms-Time-For-a-Little-Magic[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/0NnUkCZ.jpg "Ogre-Kingdoms-Time-For-a-Little-Magic[1].jpg")
>>338013274
Yeah nah, not even close.
>>338013323
This sounds awful. I feel for WH-fantasyfags.
Going with Dworf on first playthrough.
Runesmiths > Magic users
why not just play the tabletop?
>>338013849
>Runesmiths
I cannot fucking wait to fill your halls with green goodness.
>>338013928
>playing ded games
>>338013928
Because the tabletop is AoS-shit?
>>338013928
Because the tabletop has gone to shit over the years and is a very different thing.
>>338013928
Why would I pay hundreds if not thousands of bucks for models I then have to glue sloppily, and fail to paint, when I can play a game where all the shit is done for me?
I'm so fucking glad we get a fantasy game without elves for fucking once.
>>338014358
They're around. Just not n the game right now. Three fucking elf flavors
>>338014423
Wait, three? There's high, and dark, but what's the third one?
>>338011970
>keep hearing that no one likes this, but what's wrong with it? Is it the progression of the timeline, or the re-writing of the races or something?
Don't mind the anons who responded to you, they are liars.
What happened is that the End Times happened and Archaon bitch slapped everyone and destroyed the World.
Age of Sigmar is the continuation of the univeres's story that takes place in the Mortal Realms which are vast reality spanning realms that were born from the old world's winds of Magic. The survivors from the old world settled there and lived happily for many thousands of years until Chaos once again found them.
![wood_elves[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/GqJcgy0.jpg "wood_elves[1].jpg")
>>338014731
Wood.
>>338014874
Oh, so what happened was essentially that the old Warhammer Fantasy stuff essentially "concluded", and Age of Sigmar is essentially the next chapter.
But now, purists are enraged because the portrayal of their favored races aren't the same as they used to be?
Is that about right?
The only thing that doesn't just sound like fanboyism is that I can kinda' see where all the people who bought the old models are coming from.
Like it'd suck to buy 10k orcs only for GW to "lol, not cannon and won't be supported/played anymore!". That rage I can kinda' see.
>>338013323
>>Elves witches replaced by males
The shards are not Witch Elves. They don't worship Khaine.
The Khainate Cults are still a thing in AoS and they are mostly womyn.
>Black Warpriests
Nothing wrong with that unless you are a racist.
Most of the humans in the realms worship Sigmar. Having a black person worship Sigmar is no big deal unless you are a racist.
>>Elves looks like Eldars
Not really. People just freak out about the Saih's mask.
The rest of the Aelf desgins that popped up pretty Fey.
>>Zero setting detalization
Lies.
Each release details more of the world. They steadily building the universe via books and novels.
>>Sounds like they're going to start shifting things.
We getting points and a new global campaign. GET HYPE!
does anyone give a shit about fantasy warhammer units and lore? all the memes I see are about 40k
One thing I really like about Warhammer, fantasy and 40k, is that there don't seem to be any clearly GOOD guys.
Hell, even the Vampire Cunts are fighting because they feel that death shouldn't be prevention from succession to the throne. And that's not really evil in one sense. Though I will admit that they're probably pretty close to it.
Chaos just want's chaos, and even orcs can be said to be fulfilling their base needs. Not because they're cruel or evil, but because it's what they're around to do.
>>338015158
>Is that about right?
Yep.
>I can kinda' see where all the people who bought the old models are coming from.
No, you can't.
GW updated the rules of the old models and they are playable in the new system. The rules are free only.
Nearly everything is canon and playable.
>>338015193
>Iron Horde
Ironjawz are cool and very Orky.
>>338015214
Of course people do. 90% of this thread is shitposting about why Skaven can't be in the campaign because they're so geographically far away.
>>338015370
Free online*
>>338015370
Oh, I did not know that about all models being usable. So it's just fanboyism then, and they should just try to deal with it instead of whining?
I also overused the word "essentially" in my last post, so sorry about that.
2 developer-made mods going to launch with the game. Removing region occupation, aka you can occupy all lands. The other splits legendary lords into their own factions, they said this is for co-op campaign so 2 people playing Empire can have their own lord instead of the same one
>>338015370
>>338014874I think Age of Sigmar looks pretty cool and I don't understand why everyone's bitching about it.
>>338015565
probably because its a piece of shit compared to the old fantasy warhammer
>>338015674
I disagree.
It's METAL
>>338015556
I hope they give modders lots of tools and stuff they can use to develop cool shit for the game. But just the fact that mods come with it out of the box is kinda' neat.
>>338015193
Oh great internet defense task force here.
>The shards are not Witch Elves. They don't worship Khaine.
It's still have Witch design.
>The Khainate Cults are still a thing in AoS
Faction with 2 old boxes, yeah very interesting, while all new releases is about naked muscular males.
>Not really. People just freak out about the Saih's mask.
Bitch please, it's just spiritseer with different staff and pose.
>pretty Fey
Since when MtG design becomes a Fey?
>Lies.
Truth, there is no description of societies, states or tribes.
>They steadily building the universe via books and novels.
Irrelevant, just as plabets from 40k BL books, most of them unimpotant and borring as fuck.
>Nothing wrong with that unless you are a racist.
Yeah, I am racist, nice try liberal.
>Most of the humans in the realms worship Sigmar.
And where black people cames from? And why they wear European clothes and using european weapons?
>We getting points and a new global campaign. GET HYPE!
Even with points ruleset is still broken and primitive shit with overpriced models, nah thanks, I probably try X-wing.
>>338015158
That, and the fact that the original rulebook was four (4) pages long, and people STILL managed to find a way to break the game to make it an unplayable mess - something that has yet to be fixed. It's literally borderline-unplayable at the moment.
>>338008309
wow a whole 4 factions!Here's your (You), bastard
>>338015370
>GW updated the rules of the old models and they are playable in the new system.
Too bad that they are all useless against new rules.
>Ironjawz are cool and very Orky.
For 40k.
>>338015730
>It's METAL
It's anime.
>>338016058
>the original rulebook was four (4) pages long
Wait, what? I thought Warhammer rulebooks were usually like 800 pages and explained the rules of leaning slightly to the left in a thunderstorm if it's Tuesday?
Am I wrong?
>>338016157
>Am I wrong?
Yep.
>>338016034
Omg is that you slav?
You shitpost even here. I thought you were banned from /tg/?
L I V I N G O N T H E E D G E B O Y S
>linkin park intesifies
>mfw the two races I play on tabletop are arguably the least popular
>ergo, the least likely to get added to TW:WH
Being Wood Elf and Beastmen is suffering.
>>338016270
GW has already confirmed that canonically, everyone who likes Chaos are homos.
This is news to no one.
>>338016278
>tfw when I was thinking of getting into WHFB with beastmen
>And 40k with SoB
Feel like I dodged two bullets
>>338016146
Shut up, Slav.
I saw you say the exact opposite things in /WHFB/ generals. You are really shameless/
>>338016278
Now hold on. WE isn't as unlikely as you'd think.
A lot of gamers still relate high-fantasy to hippy-elves, so it might not be too far-fetched that they'd try for something like that.
Beastmen are never happening though, unless they want the fur-audience.
>>338016157
You're exaggerating, but they were certainly longer than 4 fucking pages. Especially since there's no army-balancing mechanic, so people can and do make forces comprising 6 of the most powerful named character in the game.
Yes, I do mean the same unique guy 6 times.
>>338016360
Hoh boy, you did miss a couple of bullets there. A friend of mine started playing SoB back when we still liked 40k. His hobby savings dried up before getting a decent sized army.
>>338016372
>I saw you say the exact opposite things in /WHFB/ generals. You are really shameless/
Wut? Dude I stopped visiting /tg/ 3 years ago.
>>338008143
Is this true?
>>338016562
Sure you did, comrade.
>>338016502
This was just when Grey Knights came out for 40k in 3rd edition.
Both armies basically got totally shelved and abandoned, poor fuckers. I went Tau, so I had plenty of support.
Of course I stopped playing 40k and eventually moved on to warmahordes. I love the rules, but there are moments of nostaliga where I miss 40k. Or more accurately I miss the friends I had playing it.
>>338016447
I agree, WE is far more likely than BoC. Unless they add BoC as some different Chaos units. Hell I'd go for a pallet swap:
Gors are marauders
Bestigors as knights
Shamans as sorcerors etc
Are BoC furry? I love them but hate furries.
>>338016458
How does that work? I mean, where's the GW-damage-control team? Like, some guy bought 6 of the same Grand Lord of Awesomeness so that he could kick the ass of anything?
That doesn't sound like much fun.
>>338016713
The GW damage control team is counting their sweet, sweet cash from that one moron buying 6 of the same figure for $100 each
>>338000509
How fucked and Buggy will the game be on release? Will it be as shit as Rome II or Empire?
>>338016781
>sweet cash from that one moron
Well something tells me that there will be more than 1.
>>338016781
That makes me sad within.
>>338016923
Just in that instance.
Oh and Nagash summons skeletons. So you gotta buy an ass ton of skeleton models from GW to play him properly too.
>>338016953
Welcome to games workshop. How can we suck the fun out of your game today?
>>338016876
Probably yeah. And call me a shill, but I kinda' don't mind that with these games. It's part of the charm.
I would never say this of any other game or series, but Total War is usually a broken mess on launch that barely works. It's downright part of the experience to see how phenomenally they fuck up.
Sure it's usually patched in a few days, but it's stupidly funny to see how glitched and fucked these games can be at launch.
>>338016923
>>338016953
>GW
>giving the slightest shit about YOU having fun
>>338010619
so is the carstein guy the rightful heir to the empires throne or something?
>>338015730
Maybe, but it's a very non-traditional fantasy setting similar to Valhalla and in reality is just an attempt of Games Workshop to squeeze every last dime out of tabletop players.
Warhammer Fantasy had more appeal to people because it made immediate sense and was more 'realistic' as far as a fantasy setting can be.
People like to be immersed in their pathetic fantasy world and that's harder when it doesn't make any fucking sense. The fact that they completely destroyed the universe that it's based on gives it a pointless feeling to people as well.
>>338017221
>non-traditional fantasy setting
> What Planescape is
> What Outland is
>>338017210
It's a little up for debate where one's right to rule ends and the next begins, as well as all the steps in between. The royalty-politics of the universe are like GoT on crack, so yeah he has a good claim.
That being said, you kinda' have to be ALIVE, which is an aspect he lacks.
>>338017286
Fantasy settings, but not traditional ones...
>>338017383
>but not traditional ones...
Well actually Lovecraft was one of the founder of traditional fantasy.
>>338016126
better than shogun 2 which was 20 copy pasted factions
greenskin master race,
anyone else playing Return of Reckoning until the game drops
>>338000509
When I found out it wasn't going to be 40k I dropped all interest and you should too
Never played Warhammer but this setting looks like fun. How good is the AI in these games? Is it more or less a joke like the Civ series or can I get a challenge?
>>338017501
And how does that relate? The C'tan are Lovecraft based. How is Age of Sigmar influenced by Lovecraft's version of traditional fantasy? I'm very interested to know.
>buying any total war game on release
Don't do this to yourself. You will regret it.
>>338017761
How do you sustain yourself with that shit taste?
>>338017813
WHFB is shit and tat's why it's dead. Bad lore that made no sense, unbalanced game, and ugly models.
GW dragged WHFB for years at a loss. Nobody wanted to play the game.
I really hope my PC can run it decently
>>338017824
its not quite as easy as civ, since the battles are at least in real time so a completely braindead person will not be able to win, but it is still a bit of a joke, it got marginally better in later titles, but after you play for a bit it wont be much of a challenge
>>338017945
>Bad lore that made no sense
>>338017973
its supposed to be much better optimized than attila (though thats not saying much at all)(
>>338017830
Sleeping Godbeasts and monsters literally made from stars?
Here is a picture of Archaon about to engage a Solar Drake the size of a sun in combat.
With all the dlc its gonna be getting i dont even want to touch it.
>>338008309
>not wanting skaven tomb kings lizards and beastmen
kys this is a singleplayer rts who cares about balance?
>>338018059
>lovecraft
>About slaying 'godbeasts'
Nigger. Lovecrafts whole shtick was how humans are utterly insignificant and of little note to the entire universe and abstract princples that dwelt inside and outside of it. Also his ridiculously over the top racism.
A human chosen champion of the dark gods going around and killing monsters and giant godly beasts is as far from lovecraft as it gets.
>>338017761
>a total war game
>not about the finni-korean hyper war
I dropped it instantly too
>>338018056
The graphics seem toned down quite a bit and more stylized than realistic and there seems to be a lot fewer troops in each of the units, so I believe it. Apparently they also got rid of the matched combat animations to free up memory.
>>338018214
>>338018206
>Also his ridiculously over the top racism.
This meme can we stop?
>>338018206
I mean if the C'tan are Lovecraftian and they have been defeated by mortals before, I guess one can say that Archaon wrestling a celestial dragon as Lovercraftian.
Also Archaon has become an abstract
>Archaon trudged through the black snow. His armoured boots were wrapped in the furs of some barb-skinned beast, the bony spines of which gave the warrior purchase across the frost and ice. The skies raged away above him, spitting and swirling like a ghostly, maddened creature, chasing its own tail. The armour of Morkar, First Everchosen of Chaos scalded his skin with its raw embrace. Archaon could not feel such pain. He wouldn’t allow it. The common miseries of existence were nothing to him now. With every step he took towards a doom of his own making, he became less of a man and more of an idea. An abstraction. A living misery for others to endure. He was not some character in a great tale told. He was the silence after the words. The covers of the tome slammed shut. The crackle of page and ink on the fire. He was the nevermore.
>>338017761
>ever thinking there would be a Total War: 40K
>not liking Fantasy
Are you retarded?
>>338017824
Ramp that shit up to "very hard" and you'll get a good challenge out of it.
>>338018286
Speaking of the graphics, given that there's a million things happening at once (or least, it seems that way to an outsider like me), would the game run well on a semi-decent computer?or rather, a decent laptop?
>>338017858
>not embracing the hype
>not enjoying it, bugs and all
part of the charm of these games is seeing how fucked they are at launch
>>338018535
I don't usually use that word because mt time in /tg/ made me hate it
But.....
YOU DAMN SHILL
>>338018059
I think part of the point of Lovecraft is the nihilism. The old ones aren't really even gods and there's no real magic. Only extremely advanced beings that we don't fully understand.
I'll agree on some superficial level there are similarities, but I you'd be really fucking hard pressed to find someone who would call giant space monsters traditional fantasy. Even if Lovecraft was around at the time he isn't really involved in what we see today as traditional fantasy. The main contributors to it are Tolkien, Arthurian legend, and Northern European myth.
>you will never be a lowly state pikeman having to face down a charge of Orks twice your size.
feels allright
>>338018612
>the old ones aren't really even gods
what
>>338017813
>>338017919
>>338018479
The fantasy setting is even more dull and boring than WoW.
>>338018453
>as Lovercraftian.
Or superheroic, since all Warhammer visuals looks more inspired by DC/Marvel and MMO than fiction or mythology.
>>338017824
If you fight the battles in real time it can be hard. Enemies coming at you with a 20-stack out of no where army and you having to fend off with whatever you have
The worst parts of the games are the sea battles, which won't be in this game, and the siege battles.
>>338001679
>He doesn't just wait to get DLC during steam sales
>Want to play Orks for stronk Giant units
>Want to play Dwarves for stronk artillary and ranged
>Want to play Vampire counts for the obviously OP units they need to have in order to make up for the fact that they don't have archers
Halp me /v/
>>338018604
I know, I know. But remember how much fun was had on /v/ and in general when Rome 2 came out as an unplayable glitchy fucking mess? Every other game is made worse for glitches and bugs, except Total War.
Sure, they fix it after a few days, but on launch day there's nothing more fun than discovering pic related.
>>338018735
>Warhammer visuals looks more inspired by DC/Marvel and MMO than fiction or mythology.
>>338018795
>not starting 3 playthroughs at once
Casual.
>>338018816
Looks like Kel'Thuzad.
>>338018693
t. a 40K scrub
The universe is much, much deeper than you think. Tomb Kings are a great example, Dwarves too.
>>338018809
I agree, and its not like I am not going to buy it anyway, so might as well do it now and enjoy the shitstorm
>>338018816
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amUJOeuxpXE
>>338018912
you need to check your eyes mate
>>338018479
You really don't think there won't be a Total War: Warhammer 40k sometime down the pipeline? Because I see that as being easy fucking money.
I am talking 4-5 years from now.
Probably gonna go for dorfs. I am gonna sit on this hill and then I am going to fucking dare anyone to brave the storm of shit I will throw his way and remove me.
>>338018998
I did.
GW stole from BLIZ!
Lawsuit imminent.
>>338018952
Exactly. You just have to laugh at these things.
>>338018998
All what I can see is different colours, but same design.
>>338018691
"According to Robert M. Price in his essay "Lovecraft's 'Artificial Mythology'", Lovecraft never intended his pantheon of beings—occasionally referred to as the Old Ones—to be supernatural creatures but instead powerful extraterrestrials. For naive humans to worship these beings as gods or to deride them as devils was to feebly attempt to anthropomorphize them and thus render them into mundane and explainable terms. What early humans could not understand they characterized as divine; thus, prescientific cultures deified incomprehensible entities like Azathoth. Though humans might try to placate or earn the favor of these beings by worshiping them, the Old Ones were not welcoming of such veneration and moreover were quick to exploit the gullibility of their worshipers to further their own agenda.
Lovecraft's inspiration was to tear humanity from its supposedly vaunted place in the universe by forcing his characters to confront alien beings far older and wiser than humankind. Unfortunately, August Derleth, as well as other writers who followed after him, misinterpreted Lovecraft's original conception and took the Old Ones to be literally supernatural and godlike. Derleth further distorted Lovecraft's vision by concocting a parallel to the Christian narrative of Satan warring against Heaven, pairing the devils of Lovecraft's mythos (the Old Ones) against a race of benevolent Elder Gods with humanity's fate hanging in the balance. In Price's view, "religious fiction" of this sort could not be further from Lovecraft's fundamental notion of an indifferent, nihilistic universe "
Can someone give me any comparison as to what the races will be about?
Ie: if one of them is centered around lategame
>>338019015
Of course not. Why? Because only 3 races can actually front the kind of armies needed for a TW-style battle.
Nids, Guards and Orks. Every other faction would have one hell of a rough time massing a few thousand units for battle.
>>338018519
Never tried to play any Total War games on a laptop before, so I have no idea. My inclination would be to say not very well based on how Rome 2 and Attila run on my decent PC, but maybe other people in the thread can be more helpful. And for all I know, this one could be a whole lot more optimized and whatnot (I'm not holding my breath for that though).
>>338017824
As a long time Total War player, all I have to say is that the AI is wildly different between games and can be erratic but I never call it good. Especially when they're attacking in a siege battle, it will frequently go full retard and just sit there waiting for you to come out and kill it or throw all of its troops at one wall/gate for you to slaughter. Rome 2 still suffers badly from this. And in most of the games if you have even a remotely superior position like a hill, the AI will completely shut down and refuse to move until you go after them. It's technically "smart" for doing that but it's awful and annoying as far as playing goes. I generally play against the hardest difficulty AI for battles and lower for campaign map since the AI can basically cheat there. You should be fine starting on a lower difficulty, the battles will rarely challenge you once you understand how to play anyway.
>>338019053
I'm gonna' play Vampire Cunts and I'll have more skeletons than you have ammunition dwarfag.
>>338019105
I had a whole folder of r2 fuck up pics, but since I no longer have it, I have to find new stuff to shitpost with
>>338019059
>>338019114
Ahhhhhhhh!
>>338019124
>Vamp Cunts - large armies of crap, and magic
>Greenfags - large armies of savages that will kill anything and everything
>Imperials - large armies of soldiers and knights and shit
>Glorious Dwarf Master Race - large armies of heavily armored warriors supported by mecha-artillery
>>338019114
>>338019059
>blizzard invented lichs
all right.
>>338019124
Dwarves are all about defense. Orks are all about brute force melee and overwhelming numbers. Vampire Counts are very fast armies with a lot of dark magic and necromancy. Empire are basically balanced and most similar to a traditional Total War Army with knights and soldiers.
>>338019415
>>blizzard invented lichs
Why HoMM3 (for example) lichs looks different?
>>338019124
>Dwarfs
+-low mobility heavy infantry
-no cavalry
+top tier arty
>Orcs
-shit morale
+big mosters
Empire
+-jack of all trades
Vampire Counts
+cheap tarpit zombies and skeletons
+best flying units
+weak early game but godly late game units
-no ranged units
>>338019124
from the videos we have seen
vamps: very strong monsters, crap cheap infantry no archers at all
orcs: their cavalry is crap and archers are pretty meh but good in melee, strong infantry and they also have monsters
dwarves: no cavalry, no magic and no monsters but extremely good armour (their archers have more armour than some factions "heavy" infantry), and generally very tough and defensive slow army, have gyrocopters
chaosh: is a ladder
empire: gunpowder, good cavalry - including ranged cavalry, decent infantry magic
>>338019463
??????????
>>338009630
>I know nothing about TW: The post
>>338019568
>>338019509
>>338019457
>>338019337
Okay thanks everyone
>>338019463
Sure, GW stole tons of stuff from various authors over the time. Especially with 40k.
But to even imply, that GW steal from Fagzzard, that is just pure baiting. Hell, even Warcraft was originally meant to be Warhammer strategy game.
Does anyone else feel like Dwarves are going to need a buff? The cannon and guns simply doesn't work vs an opponent with good cavalry management.
