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I'm probably not going to be able to play the new franchise by my favorite developer of all time because it's locked behind a $400 pay wall. Why would kojima pursue exclusivity? Take away the petty arguments, what good comes from millions of other Kojima fans being deprived of a (highly likely) great game? Does he hate money?
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>>337991760
So when's roboknight chronicles coming out?
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>>337991760
he doesn't hate money. he just love sony.
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>>337991760
Didn't know you could play movies.
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>>337991760
It's on PS4 and PC which covers like 90% of the people who want to play his games so its not really a big deal.
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>>337991760
timed exclusive brah
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>>337992124
Oh thank FUCK its on PC I don't care anymore. Although apparently it's a timed exclusive, fuck
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>>337991760
Sony is funding it. Just because this one thing is an exclusive, doesnt mean he wont work on other platforms on other i.p.s

anyway, good luck being a poor fag, I'll be playing it when it comes out if it's good.
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real talk tough, swera im not shitposting, but by not getting a PS4 you are denying yourself the two worthwhile games of the entire generation so far, bloodborne and uncharted 4, no other game have come close to its quality, and you get one more in the future, persona 5, you are missing out on not having a ps4 by now, maybe you should spend on that instead of a new GPU or something..
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>>337991760
It's not going to be exclusive, Sony will publish it for consoles, then just be patient. It's a timed-exclusive. It will eventually come to PC.
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>>337991760
classic kojima

didn't design the logo, didn't design the suit, didn't render that image, peddles it as his own creation.
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It's coming to PC too
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>>337991760
He needed money and Sony gave it to him.
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Kojima was always a Sony fanboy, why were people surprised at all when it turned out late last year that he was collaborating with them again?
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Being an exclusive third party for one of the three console manufacturers (Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo) is far better than being independent because the manufacturer pays for the game's development, you have a guaranteed install base and it's easier and cheaper to develop for one single platform.
From Software going multiplat was just an strategy to win back Sony's favor (they've been developing almost exclusively for Sony consoles since the early PS1 days and Sony was hesitant to continue the partnership); now that they achieved their objective they don't need to do multiplats anymore.

Not to mention how unprofitable PC is:
>Piracy
>Having to code for almost infinite hardware combinations,
>The few PC gamers who actually buy games refusing to pay more than $1, to the point where they're willing to wait 2-3 years for the Steam sale.
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Quick, name a single person in the gaming industry more overrated than Kojima. Kojima hasn't made anything resembling a good game in well over a decade, he started the "video games should be movies" meme that Naughty Dog and others have been adhering to, and his magnum opus, MGS V, was one of the biggest blunders in gaming history. I genuinely cannot even fathom how someone can STILL ride Kojima's dick after all this shit.
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>>337991828
>robodeathknight
ftfy
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>>337992805
but he had to tell shinkawa what to do
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>>337993592
>Having to code for almost infinite hardware combinations

My favorite thing about /v/ is watching people speak so confidently about things they know nothing about.
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>>337991760
Rev up those petitions pcfags!
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>>337991760
What could it be?
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>>337993592
Pretty much. Souls has pretty much been a sacrificial lamb, and the overall quality reflects that. Hopefully they are done with PC and multiplat now, since their Sony-exclusive offerings have always been higher quality than multiplats.
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>>337993912
petition for what? Pc exclusive? because it's already coming to pc
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>>337993912
ITS NOT FAIR
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>>337991760
>I'm probably not going to be able to play the new franchise by my favorite developer of all time because i don't have a job
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>>337991760
Policenauts?
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>another pc port begging thread
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>>337993592
>Not to mention how unprofitable PC is:
If it were so unprofitable why is the Souls series even ported there to begin with? Quit talking about shit you know nothing about.
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>>337991760
Are all PC owners poor or something? Are they too used to pirating to buy games?
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>>337994316
Pretty much

With denuvo basically being in every new game, I'm probably gonna pick up a PS4 soon and use that for piracy once it gets cracked.
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>>337994024
Indeed. Note how:
Demon's and Bloodborne are the best games in the series.
Dark 1 was decent, being developed for consoles initially
Dark 2 was not only the worst title in the series but also one of the worst games ever made. And guess what? That was the first Souls game developed with PC on mind.
MGSV suffered the same fate: created with PC on mind, ended being the worst MGS game to the point where Kojima was fired.

PC is a blight.
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>buying PC games on a PS4
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>>337994316
I've got a backlog of several console libraries, PC exclusives, and multiplats to go through. Buying the shiny new Cocksuckers 4 title isn't a priority. By the time I get to it, oh look, a torrent is up/I can emulate it/I'll borrow a console friend's console to play it.

It's hard having so many choices.
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>>337994848
Ugly overrated bitch.
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>>337994848
Poorfags gonna poor.
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>>337991760
>Does he hate money?
Because he gets a cut of the money from the ps4s that get sold. You think From made and kept BB ps4 exclusive despite Ds1 selling amazingly on PC?

Kojima proved his skill, now sony wants the money it can produce.
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>>337994316
No, we want good games. Sadly, there's not many of those any more.
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>>337995352
>Ds1 selling amazingly on PC
Nice fucking meme.
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>>337994945
Hahahahaha look at this loser try to make himself feel better
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>it is coming out for pc as well
>sony is financing this
>kojima likes to spend corporate money with expensive dinners with horses
>he likes creating detail and polished games, which requires time, which requires more money
>sony will have to support him even further
>but with changes in the agreement, now it is a Sony exclusive and not a timed one

Kek, you cucks know this is happening.
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>>337991760

>Why would kojima pursue exclusivity?
Say your planned game cost $50 million to produce. And Sony came to you saying they'll give you $25 million to make it a PS4 exclusive. Suddenly half your development budget is needed.
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>>337995678
>2 million copies is a meme
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>>337998628

Then 2 years later, you port it to XBone, NX and PC. Thanks Sony for funding game development.
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>>337994963
>overrated
>literally unheard of again since MGSV hype

Jesus fuck, don't curse what you can't have just because you can't have it. Holy shit.
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>>337999463
PC almost certainly since Sony doesn't really see it as competition (it's a different audience), but I'd bet money there's a clause in there that prohibits the game from being ported to MS or Nintendo consoles. No fucking way would they pay for it otherwise
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>>337994543
>denuvo basically being in every new game
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>>337999628
This. Sony know full well that there's a good portion of people out there who absolutely aren't going to be buying a console, even with a good library of legit exclusives, so they don't see the point in spending the additional money and locking the game down to 100% exclusivity, but chipping in enough to development costs to keep it away from Ninty and M$ is economically viable enough to be worth doing.
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>>337994836
Holy fuck it's amazing what lengths you go through just to protect your absolute shitstain of a console.

MGSV is shit because Kojima is an idiot and wasted all his money on rendering his dutch waifu, having Mr. Sutherland mumbpe lines and generally add useless features nobody wanted instead of actually finishing the game.
Dark Souls has the best level design in the series.
Dark Souls 2 is OK and all of it's faults are design issues and have nothing to do with PC. If anything, it's becausw of shit consoles that it got a massive downgrade.
Dark Souls 3 has the best combat out of all 3 and again, it's faulta do not lie in being on PC.

Sonyggers. Not even once.
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>PCfags consider themselves Kojima fans.
Were you there for VR Missions, MGS3, MGS4, Portable Ops, Peace Walker and ZOE?
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>>338000542
That 40% on PC includes pirated downloads.

Otherwise it's a made up figure.
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>>337999628

Almost all exclusives, unless they're fully funded by Soy, just have a time based exclusivity deal. Look at Resident Evil 4 whch was exclusive for GameCube, but then ported to PS2 as soon as the 2 year grace period ended. And currently, Final Fantasy VII Remake is doing the same thing. They even had a disclaimer on the trailer itself saying Exclusive for PS4* (*for 2 years)
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>Ludens

Interesting product placement choice
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When will /v/ admit that PS4 is the best console? This is getting sad.
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>>337991760
>Kojima fan
>Doesn't buy Sony consoles
Ummm, I am legitimately confused. Did you get into Kojima games with the HD re-releases for 360 or something?
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>>338001078
>sales
>includes pirated versions.
C'mon son, you can do better than this
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>>338000542
> Dark Souls has the best level design in the series
This is only said by retards who like to ignore the fact that literally half the game is terrible.
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>>337991760
if u can afford a space station computer, you can afford a 400$ machine fucktard
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>>338001168
What's a Luden?
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Why do so many people think it's coming to PC?
Because a community manager posted some q&a shit to his personal blog?
That was literally the only "source" of it coming to PC.
Wait for the official announcement
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>>337993770
>Okay now make knight
>Good, good.. now srap a skurr on it
>Good job I rike it!
>PRODUCED BY HIDEO KOJIMA
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I think its more of a connivence thing than anything, plus a swipe at Konami for forsaking games in favor of pachinko machines.
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>>338001348
Didn't he take that down also? I found it weird that they will announce this shit when a game doesn't even exists.
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>>337991760
Who do you think is funding his new studio, dipshit?
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is it ZOE3?
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>>337991760
it was confirmed to be coming to pc too, besides if you purchased an xbone then you are an autist and should be punished as such
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>>337992805
Where did he do that?
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>>337991760
Is there anything more to this image or is this all we have? Robot knights make me rock hard to be honest.
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>>338001250
You joke, but the Metal Gear lore threads in the past few years actually did suggest that a significant portion of /v/ never actually touched the series pre-the HD remasters.
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>>338001657
>Is it *Konami Owned Franchise*
No.
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>>338001348
>>338001573
Yeah, that interview disappeared within about a day, but not before all the big gaming websites picked up on it.
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>>337993072
I like this golden face. May I save it?
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>>337991760
So who do we blame this time when it turns out to be extremely mediocre like pretty much everything kijoma has touched in the past 10 years?
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>>338001808
Save it as yours my friend.
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>>337991760
Sony was the only company willing to take him on right away. everyone else wanted him to pitch a specific idea or game to make the company money right away. the problem is his new studio had no employees other than himself, Yoji Shinkawa and his personal assistant. so really Sony was his only option short of trying to go "indie" in the Japanese market.
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>>338001939
In short, Sony is fucking based and the only company willing to take risks in games, as usual.
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>>338001819
We blame Sony
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>>338001819
Nuh uh MGS3 is a masterpie-
Oh wait fuck that's 12 years old

Peace Walker was pretty fun I guess...
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>>338000542
>The PC-specific number comes from SteamSpy, which may not be entirely accurate. According to SteamSpy:

>However, SteamSpy's Dark Souls 2 PC figure is in dispute. Start with the Dark Souls 2 total of 2.3m. Subtract from that 1.2m - the figure Bandai Namco said it shipped within three weeks of Dark Souls 2 launch (before the PC version came out and could add to the total). Subtract another 350,000 for sales of Dark Souls 2 on PS3 in Japan, a version From Software published. That leaves around 700,000 attributable to PC. But that's nearly 300,000 fewer units than SteamSpy attributed to Dark Souls 2 on PC (994,455). Thank you commenters grassyknoll and CatButler for putting that in terms I could understand.

>sold 1,977,541 copies of DS1 on PC according to steamspy at $5 a copy
>so successful

Face PCfags, your platform is irrelevant to developers. The only reason you think differently is because developers and publishers have to pretend you matter so you don't go pirating their games in rage while they attend to their real audience.
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>>338001917
Thanks
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>>338001315
No, it's said by people that aren't blind and opened all shortcuts. Losr Izalith by itself does not invalidate the whole game.

>>338001078
> T-That doesn't count!
> i-it's not true because I say so!

I could post more sources, but you're just retarded so we'll leave it at that.
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>>338001939
Ken Imaizumi's part of neo-KojiPro as well.
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>>338001982
it's not even Sony is benevolent, it's just that they're not retarded. everyone else was treating Kojima like some 20-something upstart but Sony realized his legacy and how fucking profitable his name alone is.
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>>338001706
This is why I switched to /vg/ back in 2012. /v/ is like a bi-yearly excursion for me.
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>>338002049
Exactly why did you separate Dark Souls 2 Japanese release from the 1.2m?

Also,
> all console owners bought the game full price!
> PC is all cheapskates and p-pirates!

I'm sorry yoy have such shit sales on PS4. Happens when you choose to be a cuck.
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>>338001939
Many companies pitched offers to him but he chose sony due to their past relationship and wanting to be with people he was familiar with. I'm most likely talking out of my ass with this, but I think personal relationships are a big part of business decisions in japan.
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>>338002392
too bad /mgg/ is dead and nothing but waifu posting now
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>>337991760
>kojima after MGS3
>high quality game

Heh
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>>338001657
no its "Location of the Climaxers"
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>>338001340
cough drops
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>>338002425
He probably got it from the same article. It says right there, japan didn't have a pc release.
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>>338002475
I only go to thread of consoles I am currently using, games I'm currently playing, and when big news/events happen. I hop in those threads too. It's pretty great, you see next to no waifu posting, and for the most part, people actually talk about video games.
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>>338002049
>Consoles have their main producers pumping money constantly into games to make sure they get shipped to their system
>Fill every form of media with advertisements for said game (and by proxy for their console)
>Go out of their way to pay for exclusive timed releases and make sure it's compatible with their architecture

VS.

>Develope it for Windows with absolutely no financial help, advertising help, or optimization help
>Pretty much the best you can hope for is it to get on steam, which are just going to take money so they can advertise it on their store page to potential customers.

You can't really fault the PC at this point, it's just consoles dump a ton of money into their developers.
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>>338001819
peace walker, metal gear rising, pt, ground zeroes, the first half of mgsv and the 4 of the 5 chapters of mgs4 were good
thats 4.3/5

his next game is going to be good too senpai, much smaller scope than mgsv which is where that game fell flat
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>>337991760
PS4 will be $300 when it comes out, it's already $350 and when Neo comes out it will drop to $300.

Unless you really want (not)4k PS4 Neo.
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>>338002937
>starting the list with peace walker
This is a man who lives dangerously
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Say with me, PCucks: NEVER EVER
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>buy ps4 for early release
>pirate on PC
Do it all the time
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>>338003030
its a legitimately good game lad, best on the platform
the only part that isnt were the armoured vehicle/tank/chopper battle missions
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>>338003348
I'm not one to disagree, absolutely lovely game. One of the first to get shit on by dorks though.
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>People seriously think Kojimas 1st game is gonna come to PC

Who do you think is funding this shit ? Sony of course most likely they will be publishing it as well why would they ever let it come to PC ? Why don't we get Bayo 2 and Bloodborne on PC while your still Being delusional

I can see Koji Pro future games being multiplat after them making profit from their 1st but no way their gonna make this a Timed Exlusive unless Kojima is throwing in a few millions into development from his own pocket which is stupid since you can have someone else do that for you aka Sony
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>>338003607
>b-but a guy said so on medium!
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>>338002991
Pretty much this famalama. And don't buy the console yet for an exclusive until the game is like FOR SURE fucking coming out. Don't want to be like those poor fucks who bought a PS3 for last guardian or something.
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Jesus christ all of these pc poor fags.
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>>337994836
Demons souls fucking sucks compared to DaS
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>>337991760
>Being this dumb to what money is
Dude, Sony is the one paying for the studio and game; so they can say "Make it exclusively for the PS4.".

If you payed $300+ million for a decades worth of project you would want a say in them too.
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>>337999226
>at $5 versus $40-$60
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DELETE THIS THREAD RIGHT NOW


REAAAAFEDFWEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>338001027
>VR Missions
Yes we fucking were?

>MGS3, PO (shit), PW and ZoE
Literally all playable on PC.
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>>337994963
>being this triggered over a girl gif
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>>338002242
The only retarded one here is you for thinking Kojima is worth anything to anyone other than giant international conglomerates like Sony or Microsoft. Sony has an uncommon privilege to be able to do shit like this in the first place, and I can pretty much guarantee you they don't count on making money directly from whatever Kojima puts out in the next 20 years. He's their new Fumito Ueda. They're just using his street cred as a marketing tool for the PS brand.
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>>338005740
>e-emulation counts!
Sorry for being wrong about VR Missions though
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>>337993783
So you like to look at your own post?
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>>337992805
exactly.

which is why we all know now that his creative decisions are garbage, after he cut Hayter to get Sutherland.
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>>337991760
Multi-plats cost money
Put it on one system and people will flock to it cuz muh Kojimbo
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why do people get worked up over exclusivity anyway

like damn, just get both consoles geez
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>>337991760
He just likes PlayStation. It's his platform of choice. Nothing more, nothing less.
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>>338002475
>make replica of mgsv truth tape
>go to /mgg/ thinking they might like to help decide what to record onto it
>one person says "neat" and it ends up forgotten
I just wanted to do something fun with metal gear fans on the internet again
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>>338010265
Na m8 he likes producing multiplat, he likes developing for PC because it's how he got started

This is purely because sony have an exclusivity deal because they signed him
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>>338010061
>anon gets mom to buy $1000 prebuilt from best buy with GameGeeks protection
>anon gets mom to buy underpowered console because he just wants to play his call of duties already
>both have to rabidly defend their decision on what their GBP should have been spent on against strangers on the internet
Meanwhile grown-ass men with their own income enjoy video games and take the idort high road so they can play any game that comes their way which looks fun
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>>337991760

I'm just mad because console games look like shit on my 4k tv
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>>338011192
Your own fucking fault for buying technology unsupported by the mainstream, you tool.
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>>338001027
On psp/ps3 but now I'm on PC. MGS4 is the only one not playable on PC right now anyway and I never want to play it again anyway.
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>>337991760
Kojima has always been a huge sony fanboy. Plus, right now, he likes to produce games with more focus on the plot rather than gameplay, so he finds himself at home there, with all the Uncharteds and The Order.
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>shitposting and console wars instead of discussion
>op was just an ignorant retard as well

Fuck you all
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>>338012254
Not a single part of your post can be proven to be anything but baseless conjecture.
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>>338012636
Kojima loves Sony:
https://www.vg247.com/2013/04/16/kojima-i-do-like-sony-but-developer-is-going-multi-format-from-now-on/
Kojima loves games like Uncharted and wants to make one:
http://www.siliconera.com/2016/05/10/hideo-kojima-working-new-action-game-fans-aaa-titles-will-enjoy/
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>>337991760
It's going to be a timed exclusive.
And an utter disappointment just like every 3D game he made that isn't MGS1 or 3
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Can someone turn OP's pic into a 1080p wallpaper? that'd be pretty cool.
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>>338012636
He's openly suckholed Sony in interviews since the late '90s senpai, where you been at?
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His games sell the most on Sony consoles.
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>>338012891
>taken out of context and simplified beyond the meaning of the quote in both instances
He says he loves sony but believes non-exclusivity is progress, which is contrary to your point.

He also says that people who like those games will like the style of his new one, which is wildly vague in terms of what it actually means for the game itself.

You should start writing for clickbait journalism sites with your penchant for jumped conclusions.
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Here's the full sized image, not hard to crop and do it yourself if you so please.
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>>338013440
works all the same. thanks pal
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>>338003607
Just like No Man's Sky coming only to PS4 amirite. Oh wait.

Just because Sony is funding this guy doesn't mean Kojima is only gonna release it on PS4. Kojima wants everybody to play his game. He has a contract with Sony that basically does 2 things: He gets funded and his game will temporarily be PS4 exclusive.

I'm not even pulling that out of my ass, it's a fact.
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>>337993592
>>337993783
>Code
>Poor fagets pretending to know development
Oh, 4chan..
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>>338001078
>Sold
>Pirated
Pick one nig
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Why do people put games behind 60 dollar pay walls? It's not fair. If they don't want everyone to play them why even make them.
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>>337991760
>locked behind a $400 pay wall

Huh?
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>>337994836
>That was the first Souls game developed with PC on mind.
That was never the case, desperate friend.
The whole game suffered both visually and mechanically because of its clinging to last gen consoles. Gone was the lighting, useless became the torches.
PC never had any sort of priority, let alone be the primary target. It took a re-release for the next gen consoles to fix a banal bug that halved the durability on all weapons.
Why did was that bug present in the first place? Because the game was designed to run at 30 frames per second.

I bet you were holding your PS360 tighthly as you were typing the word "blight"
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>>338008675
>they call it master race because they literally port the consoles operating system and library of games
we live in an era of DLC and they still won't make bitchin fun VR missions new instalments
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>>337991760
>EXTRA-VEHICULAR CREATIVE ACTIVITY suit.

Sounds fun as fuck.
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>>337991760
We made Kojima what he is today. How dare he betray us like this! Lets all boycott his game and buy Overwatch just to teach him a lesson.
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KOJIMAS KILL COUNT

>CASTLEVANIA
>METAL GEAR
>KONAMI

UP NEXT

>SONY
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