So why aren't you playing the StarCraft remake right now?
>>337949265
I don't like starcraft
>>337949521
Do you not like it at all or do you just hate the Korean-tier multiplayer? Because I never gave a fuck about MP but love the amazing SP campaigns.
>>337949265
link?
>>337949265
did they rewrite out the never seen player character thing?
>>337949905
http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/starcraft-mass-recall/
Use Retro Edition since that has more SC1-style model recreations and Brood War gameplay mechanics though this remake has some issues ever since Legacy of the Void came out and introduced some textures bug that affects this remake as well.
Personally I'm running pirated version of Heart of the Swarm (2.1.9) which works perfectly without said texture bug.
I could link with instructions if you want.
>>337950158
What? I don't understand what you mean. Can you rephrase?
That's like playing Morrowind inside of Oblivion, the original will always be better than a mod.
I would play StarCraft if I was a fan of the RTS genre, but I never have fun with them, even in SP most of the time.
Except AOE2, I had real soft spot for that for some reason.
>>337950265
>That's like playing Morrowind inside of Oblivion, the original will always be better than a mod.
Not at all you retard seeing as this has the mechanics of the original, not the mechanics of SC2.
It's literally SC2 graphics but with mechanics of SC1 BW.
What about the voice acting and cutscenes?
>>337950503
All of original SC1/BW music, voice acting and FMV cutscenes are there.
>>337950373
Okay.
I prefer the original, that anon probably does too.
I don't give a shit about sc2.
You're the retard here if graphics are that important.
>>337950572
Oh man that's neat.
Before I get all positive though, what are the cons in your opinion compared to the original?
>>337950260
Link with instructions please
>>337950260
well you see in the original game you didnt plar as raynor, but as commander, who was never seen or talked but acknowleged, as existing and they goy that ordered the troops around
WARP FIELD STABILIZED
>>337950738
The backgrounds of the intermission screens (as the one in the OP behind the animated portraits) aren't animated.
That's literally it.
In every other way it's SC1 but better and on steroids.
Also no MP if you care about that, this remake is SP only.
>>337950789
You are the commander here as well you retard. It's a fucking 1:1 remake. In Terran campaign you play as a random Commander, in Zerg as random Cerebrate and in Protoss as random Executor.
Please stop talking about things you not know.
>>337950781
Give me a moment to compile all the links and info then as it was a bitch to hunt down that older Pre-LotV version of SC2 that actually works with the remake.
>>337951082
why are you throwing R word left and right
>>337951182
Mostly because I despise blind ignorance?
>>337951082
well after that shitshow of story that was SC2 was pretty sure they rewrite the damn thing
>Remakes
I could just play the original right now if I wanted to.
>>337951332
This point is to play the original on a better engine with better visuals, sure you can play the original but why bother when this exists and is better?
>>337951301
It's a faithful remake from what I played so far (about to finish the Protoss campaign).
It also has remade the prequel mini campaign from SC1 demo as well as the Stukov mission from SC64.
Naturally BW campaigns are included as well.
>>337951082
>i don't understand what you mean please explain
>explains
>HOLY SHIT YOU RETARD STOP TALKING ABOUT THINGS
>>337951643
Oh shit, well I didn't realize you were the same guy, thought you were someone jumping to conclussions, I fucked up.
Needs only Heart of the Swarm? haha thank god. Never bought legacy of the void since I drew the line on blizzard's gay story.
>>337951757
You can play it with even Starter Edition but it doesn't work well on latest version of SC2.
Any SC2 version that's 3.0 or higher has a nasty black textures bug that won't be fixed anytime soon since the remake devs don't know what's causing it but popular opinion is that Blizzard broke that shit on purpose since no other mod is affected. As long as you track down a non-3.0 version of SC2 you'll be good. I'm compiling a list with all links including 2.1.9 build of SC2 + cracked launcher right now.
>>337951948
Alright, I'll wait for that instead. I was just about to install the game through battle.net. That's pretty fucking shitty what blizzard did. Why can't they be edgy for the appropriate reasons instead, like writing a story.
Okay, first the links, instructions will come next.
SC2 HotS 2.1.9 version:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0BxqCXCDr-q8RfmJjX3RPdllSMzVqNkNZazJGYTVpZHpTamZLN0w1dkdPXzRPQXNZbWZCWjQ&usp=sharing
Cracked Launcher:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2mQdbjQVZRZLXhndGgyZ2xaUlk/view?usp=sharing
Offline Map Cache needed to actually play (from version 2.0.9 but it's universal for all versions up to 2.1.9):
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2mQdbjQVZRZUUJIV3dDWlJ1Z0E/edit?usp=sharing
SC1 Remake itself:
https://mega.nz/#!fEJEEDoB!yy4wSMCbezWx2At8wZ6rSjYROYyOdJT8XEqe8dtz3hY
Instructions:
1. Just unpack that SC2 anywhere you want but don't launch it or it will try to autoupdate to latest version and fuck everything up.
2. Unpack the cracked launcher (the StarFriend thiny) to any folder you want but make sure it's NOT the SC2 folder (it will even give you an error if you try launching it from within SC2 folder)
3. Unpack the Map Cache to the Launcher folder (just override the "Blizzard Entertainment" folder with the one from Map Cache archive)
Now just run the launcher (StarFriend) and configure your shit such as profile name etc if you give a shit about those (you can even also play SC2 online with other people running this cracked version of SC2).
This concludes setting up SC2 itself, now for the remake.
4. Unpack the remake archive into your previously extracted main SC2 folder (so put the Maps and Mods folders within the main SC2 one)
5. Now to run the mod you need to only start the cracked launcher and then drag-and-drop SCMR Campaign Launcher.SC2map file on the window with it. That will launch the remake.
You can't launch the map file directly as that boots up SC2 editor which isn't cracked and it will give you an authentication error, just remember to drag and drop it on the cracked launcher and that's it.
Make sure to pick the SC1/BW soundtrack ingame in the Audio Tab since by default it's set to SC2.
That's it.
I see someone is also remaking Warcraft 1-3 in SC2, seems to big of a project to be finished desu.
>>337952896
Thanks a lot man.
>>337952941
This one got finished so I don't see why WC3 remake couldn't get done.
>>337953080
Np.
>>337952896
Oh yeah and when configuring the launcher make sure to specficy the SC2 directory.
>>337952896
OH and I think you need to run SC2 once on the cracked servers to actually create ingame offline profile.
Just pick any of the servers from the list here (by double clicking in the top section first, pick your region of HotS one and then double click any of the ones in the bottom part) as in the pic and then press Start Game.
After you get to main menu input [email protected] as login and "gg" minus quotations as password. Then when you're in main menu you can quit and do that drag and drop thing to play the remake.
Sorry for forgetting this step.
N-Nobody? Don't tell me I wrote all this shit pointlessly.
>>337954812
calm down senpai, I'm downloading the game files.
>>337955067
I'll try to keep the thread alive.
>>337951525
>better engine with better visuals
that's just like your opinion man
>>337955342
You can't possibly tell me that the 640x480 resolution with 2D low res sprites look in any way shape or form better other than nostalgia glasses.
>>337955435
Those little sprites looked better than the arstyle blizzard used for sc2 imo.
>>337955961
But it's literally the same designs, just in 3D.
Just compare pic related to >>337950260
>>337950260
what are those weird marines and firebats? They looks so much cooler than the sc2 ones
>>337955961
>literally the same art style
>>337956491
The mod has custom models to replicate the SC1 sprites.
>>337956496
nah it's a different artstyle. You're just blind and have an IQ low enough where you can't tell the variable differences and just say it's all the same.
>>337957163
You're the only blind one here, blinded by heavy fucking nostalgia that is. Literally same shit but with more detail.
Btw remember to do this in case you can't connect
>>337957518
If you can't tell the difference between those two other than shape, than you're blind.
>>337958148
Nostalgia is one hell of a drug.
Bumping with pictures
>>337959191
>>337959356
Is neo/v/ so underage that there's no interest? What the fuck
>>337958198
again, different artsyles. At this point, I'm 100% sure you don't know what artsyle even means.
>>337959959
Enlighten me then o-smartass because I don't see how the art styles are different beyond SC2 actually having lighting that SC1 lacks.
>>337960072
It's going to be like explaining basic math to a cat.
>>337954812
Just spam the thread everyday with the information from the get go. There's probably a lot of virgins who haven't played the original so.
>>337960826
So you've got no argument and are merely shitposting then? Okay.
>>337960860
Yeh will do that probably
>>337949265
because I didn't buy SC2 because I wanted to know if WoL's story was good or not firstIt wasn't so I didn't buy a single version of SC2
>>337961176
You're in luck for piracy exists
>>337960924
I'm just too lazy to give a thorough crash course on arithmetics with a mentally handicapped, anon.
>>337961407
You're just shitposting actually
>>337956168
The sense of scale when it comes to battlecruisers and carriers is so fucked in SC2. I could forgive it in SC1, but they look like fucking remote controlled drones in 3D.
Is there still a limit to how many units can be selected?
>>337961407
You're falling for some pretty shitty bait, man.
>>337961704
Nope
>>337949265
2d > 3d
>>337949265
I liked the original artstyle better.
>>337950713
It's not just mechanics, it's engine stuff too, like not being limited to one dozen units at a time.
>>337961521
>>337961793
Doesn't matter, it's great way to bump the thread.
>>337962425
You aren't limited in here either though.
>>337962425
Being limited to a dozen units at a time made the game great. In SC2, you had unlimited units to grab and it encouraged deathballs of anti-strategic force.
I didn't like SC2 because of that. I wish someone would take over Blizzard and make starcraft great again.
>>337949265
>played the original
>get to use WC3 clan chat channels to create SC clans
>get to host maps and join maps for specific hosts
This is the shit that kept me playing for years, since it meant I got to know people rather than every game being with randoms. With this being destroyed in SC2, as far as I could tell, unless they brought it back in this remake, there would be no reason for me to join in on the action. Plus, I have my doubts about the custom maps being as fun as they used to be. Snipers was my main thing for a long time.
>>337952896
>>337953359
>>337954135
Just a reminder to drag and drop onto launcher after setting up everything else, never run directly from the map file itself.
>>337962425
>not being limited to one dozen
Are you baiting? This feature literally made BroodWar great
>>337949265
I'd rather play the original.
In case anyone doesn't know, some guys are making a new, better server:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/508993-shieldbattery-bw-revitalized-for-modern-mortals
>>337963194
Any reason why would you play original other than MP and nostalgia?
>>337963194
looks cool
>mfw blizzard will shut them down
>>337963301
Gee, man. Why the hell would anyone go back to old games?
Maybe because someone might find it fun?
I like the original engine more.
You'll never have the pathfinding or mechanical feel of the original units.
Everything in sc2 is too smart and too homogenized.
>>337963476
With the recent statements by Blizzard on patching SC1 for modern systems and reinstating multiplayer functions properly it's pretty much a given that this will get nuked.
>>337963592
>better AI and pathfinding is worse
Mcfucking kill yourself you nostalgianigger, go back to your cancer containment board that is /vr/ and stop leaking from there.
>>337963603
Where did they say this? I hadn't heard anything about the original Star Craft in years.
>>337952896
So if I already have a legit copy of lotv do I just put this in the game files? It won't get me banned or anything will it?
>>337963063
I'd wager its more about how the units trip up when bunched. If you a-move a giant group in BW they stagger out and start forming an arrow type shape. In SC2 its a perfect ball.
This makes positioning and using your units smartly so much more important.
>>337963750
A few days ago. Same with d2 and w3. First d2 patch in 5 years.
>>337963719
Enjoy all of your armies being groups of fish and every unit controlling the exact same way.
>>337963795
Learn to read, it's fucked on LotV courtesy of Blizzard.
All these bugs were introduced by LotV:
>Hydralisk model persists on top of a Lurker Cocoon during morphing
>Silhouettes of units behind structures look out of place in certain cutscenes
>Cinematic transition loading screen is the standard Legacy of the Void loading screen
>The final rolling credits do not appear
>Flickering textures, possibly related to certain custom models.
>A Xel'Naga Temple problem in PX08.
>>337949265
already did so this year and I´m not made of leisure time.
>>337949265
cause starcraft is a mediocre generic piece of shit that achieved such acclaim because koreans are retarded.
This will sound retarded but anybody can help me out on this?
I downloaded LotV (read: pirated) and got everything running and shit, but then my monitor is a tad too small for the resolution the game opens in, so my monitor goes black and gives me an error. Now I know about Alt + Enter and I know about "-windowed" and I know about running the .exe in 800x600 from windows, but none of the work since the game opens by a launcher, and forcing the .exe to windowed mode only affects the launcher, but not the game. For some reason Alt + TAB wouldn't work either.
Tl;dr: How the fuck can I lower the res so I can play this game?
>>337950713
except mass recall literally costs less than the original starcraft and also looks better.
>>337964197
It sold incredibly well in the states, europe, china, and korea.
Korean esports were niche as fuck back in the day compared to how many people bought and played it for singleplayer and casual custom games.
>>337964197
Blizzard and Westwood both basically made RTS as we know them. StarCraft and Tiberian Sun were revolutionary.
>>337964298
>looks like plastic pieces of pixar shit as per usual modern blizz design
>looks better
>>337964039
These don't really sound too bad...
>>337964265
C:\Users\<Your Name>\Documents\StarCraft II
Edit the config directly. Also this doesn't work properly on LotV, you fucked up.
>>337964420
The texture bug is severe as fuck and makes it unplayable, half the shit on screen appears solid black with no textures.
>>337955435
I like the isometric original graphics way more, no nostalgia.
>>337964556
SC2 has isometric camera too though
>>337950738
Some of the remade models of units not in SC2 editor look and move jank. aldaris´ and fenix´ models for instance look like shit too.
>>337958198
>left: metal
>right: plastic
Ayyy
>>337963719
>mcfucking kill yourself
cringe
because I deleted sc2 a long ass time ago
I already played sc1 a bunch so no big loss
the quality difference is breathtaking
>>337964743
>what is different lighting conditions
>>337964634
false. as a 3d game it is impossible for sc2 to be isometric as isometric is a style in which all 3 axes are foreshortened equally with the intention of solving the problem of creating a 3d space using 2d only.
>>337964634
oh I thought that isometric implied pseudo-3D. my bad
>>337964965
Not something that changes in SC2
Some of my textures are black even on HoTS (legit) copy.
It doesn't bother me that much though.
>>337965184
But it does, SC2 has dynamic lighting based on time of day and map.
>>337965229
theres no time of day in space
>>337964965
Okay? Show me the conditions where the left looks to be made of wood and the right looks to be made of bubblegum since lighting can now change how a material renders light
God you're stupid
>>337965207
>legit
You've got LotV client then, just without access to LotV stuff.
WoL = All versions from 1.0 to pre 2.0
HotS = All versions from 2.0 to pre 3.0
LotV = All versions from 3.0 onwards
You've got legit aka 3.2.0 aka LotV client.
>>337964634
3d and isometry are incompatible, SC2 just has slightly sideway perspective reminiscent of SC1's isometry.
>>337964390
I did not postulate that it looks better though, that was the guy I responded to - he claimed it was the only upside, a claim I corrected while keeping part of his argument intact. Personally I think Blizzards art design went to shit with diablo 2, and only got successively worse.
>>337965229
and yet sc2 always looks toy like
>>337965301
This is on planets.
>>337965301
Starcraft plays mostly on planetoids.
>>337965303
>>337965379
>HURR DURR WE'RE RETARDED PLS RAPE OUR FACE
SC1 has no real time lighting, and that screenshot was in night time on a Aiur map so of course it wasn't shiny.
Pic related, get fucked.
>>337949265
>try to play it with the free version of SC2
>can't save
welp
>>337965354
Ah, I suppose I'll just wait for a fix then.
>>337958198
The one on the right looks soft, plasticy, cartoonish. The one on the left looks hard, solid, metallic. Plus, you had to cherrypick just to pick something that's even remotely comparable.
>>337965646
They said they don't know how to fix it, the remake is also literally the only mod that was affected by this which leads everyone to believe it was Blizzard intentionally breaking it.
>>337964529
I'll be sure to try that.
To add to OP's shit here >>337952896 there's also the remakes of the Enslavers campaign which were official DLC campaigns for SC1 by Blizzard and are also story canon. They require Mass Recall to be installed to play them.
http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/brood-war-dark-vengeance-remake/
>>337965562
and yet zoomed out for normal gameplay it looks like plastic 100% of the time
>>337965979
Blatant fucking lie and you know it. Literally depends on the map and lighting on said map.
>>337965752
Well fuck, guess I'll just suffer through.
>>337949265
Why aren't YOU playing the WarCraft 3 remake right now?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rr1GpV2rCg
>>337966457
Why not just pirate the older SC2 version posted ITT?
>>337966583
Waiting for Undead. Also they have no campaigns planned which sucks.
>>337959959
>artstyle
shut the fuck up retard
>>337966629
Just getting the factions to work is already a lot to ask for. The amount of scripted events for the campaigns would be an even bigger project
>>337967160
I know, I'm just said that Mass Recall team could do it but they can't. Still I'll be happy with HD WC3 MP.
While we're on topic of remakes, there's also a full remake of WC1 in WC3 Engine.
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/maps-564/warcraft-humans-157714/?prev=of%3Ddownloads_month%26order%3DDESC
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/maps-564/warcraft-orcs-157703/?prev=of%3Ddownloads_month%26order%3DDESC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5kqEH8fg1U
>>337966050
Prove it faggot
>>337967335
That's awesome, I saved the link. I planned to play the first two Warcrafts. Now I'm not sure if I should play them with that remake or the originals
>>337967787
Sc2 looks glossy almost 100% of the time. Like they are some plastic colorful warhammer 40k models.
SC1 is generally flatter.
>>337964389
>What is Dune II
>>337967952
That's only WC1 tho, no WC2.
Though I heard few months back that there's a WC2 remake already made for WC3, that true?
>>337949265
I played mass recall a few month ago. Most thing are pretty faithful. The gameplay isn't really like the old game becuase the scripting is odd and enemy units behave pretty bizarrely sometimes.
Tons of missions just units patrol in an antline or rush you with everything they have, even if the original map didn't have attacking waves and what not.
Sometimes the missions are much easier, sometimes the easy are buttfucking unbelievably hard.
>>337968012
still made by westwood
>>337967335
Well shit apparently there's a remake of WC2 on WC3 engine as well.
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/maps-564/warcraft-ii-human-campaign-256464/?prev=of%3Ddownloads_month%26search%3Dwarcraft%26r%3D20%26d%3Dlist%26page%3D3
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/maps-564/warcraft-ii-orc-campaign-250328/?prev=of%3Ddownloads_month%26search%3Dwarcraft%26r%3D20%26d%3Dlist%26page%3D2
>>337968465
Based
>>337968714
No Beyond the Dark Portal tho.
I can't believe people remade WC1 and WC2 but not the WC2 Expansion.
>>337968714
GIRUGAMESH!
Is lotv 3.0 by default? If I'm gonna download sc2 might aswell play the single player for the horrible story
I'm considering getting up from bed for this, fucking love sc and bw
Is the wc3 remake playable as well, provided it's finished?
Do you have to run the game from the StarFriend launcher all the time, or are you good to go after the first time?
>>337969637
Yes. If you use blizzard downloader you just end up at 3.2.0 even with starter edition.
>>337969948
So even pirating lotv would introduce the texture pack? Bummer
>>337969869
For the remake? Always from the launcher. But the first launch setup (logging in to the cracked server, that fake email/password thing etc) are all one time things.
>>337969637
>Is lotv 3.0 by default? If I'm gonna download sc2 might aswell play the single player for the horrible story
Yep. 3.2.1 to be precise right now. Either pirate older version or don't bother.
>Is the wc3 remake playable as well, provided it's finished?
That's MP-only and right now it only has Humans and Orcs.
http://www.moddb.com/mods/waa-mod
Play the WC1 and WC2 remakes for WC3 instead.
See >>337967335 and >>337968465
>>337970081
>pack
What? I think you mean bug. But yeah just pirate the older SC2 version ITT instead.
>>337970081
>pack
Bug
>>337965562
>asked to post something that doesn't look like plastic
>posts something that looks like plastic
sage 2bh
