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>video card alone costs more than all three consoles combined
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>video card alone costs more than all three consoles combined

...and people still wonder why PC gaming is a niche market.
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Have fun with your 30 fps crap graphics m8
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>>337947935
750ti is console equvivilant performance card, it cost something like 150$, you can buy that if you want crappy graphics @ cinematic 720p and 30fps.
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>>337947935
>DotDotDot and people still wonder why PC gaming is a niche market.
>Niche Market
Oh boy here we go kids hes going all out with the bait!
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What are you poor OP?
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>>337950416
thats why consoles are using PC parts now right? since PC is niche market...and pretty every game is on PC as well, except you specific console exclusive
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>>337947935
what math are you using? when did the xbone,ps4, and wii u cost less than 600?
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Seriously, why do people spend $600 on video cards to play PS4 ports?
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>>337947935
PC gaming is more popular than consoles by a country mile.

League of Legends alone has more players than there are consoles sold.
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>>337947935

Well learn to save money and balance your finances you fucker.

Reminder that the only reason why console users come here is because they were exiled from the rest of the internet.
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>>337947935
>comparing a lamborghini elemento to a toyota prius
lmao
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>>337952676

>Comparing a spaceshuttle to a bike
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>>337947935
Yeah, so the PCuck gets a controller to sit comfy in the sofa to play on the TV. But the PC sounds like Hitler farting burning gas, from the ASS!

And no net gain was won.

>>337952438
>free to play
>gamers
Pick one.
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>>337952676
with those lines it's more a egoista
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>>337952676
>comparing cars to gpus
autism
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Just get a 1070 instead.
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>>337952819
I remember how I got a decent laptop for my work almost brand new for $150 from the local PC repair guys, because some dude left it there because the "fan was too loud." I only needed a netbook but walked out with a laptop the equivalent of $1100 brand new.

None of my coworkers or clients have remarked on the noise.

Also have a PC, and can't really hear the fans over my sound system.

In relation to OP, you can spend around $150 to get a card that can outperform any console.
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>>337950317
Does it run room on 60fps 1080p like console does?
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>>337947935
and you can't even play Final Fantasy XV or Uncharted 4 on it.
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>>337952819
>2016
>The Day and Age of $20 120mm fans with customized curves
>Noise being a problem

My PS3 and PS4 both make significantly more noise than my PC.
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>>337947935
>mfw selling my 970 and one of my guns and getting a 1080 with a 1440p 144hz monitor this summer
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So will the 980 drop in price significantly?
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>>337953425
>Also have a PC, and can't really hear the fans over my sound system.
Enjoy your tinnitus.

>>337954545
Modcuck please go! Consoles are the future.
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Both Xbone and PS4 are $299 USD
Wii U is $249 USD
The 1080 is $599 USD
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My last computer update was in april 2007
I'm waiting for my new 1080 overlord

(technically I had to change my monitor from 2001 2 weeks ago)

over the years it's hardly that expensive
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>>337953448
>Does it run room on 60fps 1080p like console does?
more like low settings with 35-55fps and 900p
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>>337952358
>the 1080 is less than $600

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1080/
>price: $599 START, reference $699, and who knows what the fuck the different companies like sapphire, zotac, etc will price their cards at.

suffice to say, 1080 is going to be well above $600 before TAX.

meanwhile,
>Xbone 500GB is $349 starting, frequently on sale for $299 at welfaremart and target
>PS4 500GB is $349 starting
>Wii U is $299 starting, frequently on sale, and can get a guaranteed working refurb straight from Nintendo with two games for $200.

good fucking lord.
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>>337953448
>does it run like console does?
Yes. Even better, because popular games capped for no reason on console still get uncapped here.
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>>337956681
To be fair, the relative cost/performance ratio is stacked heavily (probably exponentially) in favor of that graphics card.
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>>337956681
Yeah, but op said that the graphics card alone was far more expensive than all three consoles combined. So again, where the fuck was he pulling his numbers from?
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>>337956568
nice asspull

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhhsmcoYybc

>>337956850
source? i looked up gtx 750ti doom benchmarks and it runs at around 30fps, (link below) while PS4 runs at 1080p/60fps, see link above

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynhBzx9rqgU
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>>337956681
>$900 is less than $600

Looks like someone needs to go back to first grade.
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>>337953448
It can run Doom 4 on Ultra at 40FPS. All you have to do to run it at 60 is to lower it down to High, which hardly looks different at all, and is still better looking than the XBO/PS4 version.
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>>337947935
It also provides three times more fps than all of them combined.
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>>337957536
With over three times less games.
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>>337957575
>three times less games
>a PC
>having less games than any console

You may be the dumbest person in this entire thread. And that's saying something because there are a lot of really dumb posts in here.
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>>337957503
>It can run Doom 4 on Ultra at 40FPS. All you have to do to run it at 60 is to lower it down to High
where are you getting this from? your asshole?, it runs 30-40 fps on medium
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynhBzx9rqgU
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>>337957750
>i3

There's your problem.
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>>337957575
>oh no, not Halo 8!
>oh no, not Uncharted 4!
>oh no, not another Souls game thats exactly like the other 3 that are on PC!
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>they're willing to spend all that money on a graphics card
>but they're still too Jewish to buy any fucking games

PC Mustard Race
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>>337957750
who the fuck uses an i3 for gaming?
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It's mostly because PC gaming is an inherently antisocial thing. You can't PC game from your couch in your living room. friends can't chill and watch you PC game. friends can't grab a stick and jump in with you.

PC gaming will always be viewed as neckbeard gaming.
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Mobile is better than both console and PC
prove me wrong
Not only is mobile cheaper but the games are also cheaper and it's portable. Consoles and PC can't compete with this gg
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>>337958158
Nah they buy games, just when they're on sale for $5.
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>>337957854
>>337958176
This one is i5 and it runs like shit still

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_uPeLhQ8L8
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>>337958275

You just repeated what I said: they never fucking buy any games

Indieshit is worthless to begin with
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>>337958178
There's nothing stopping you from hooking up your PC to your TV and playing with a controller. Even games without controller support can work by fiddling around with a Steam Controller.
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>>337947935
And it's more powerful than all three consoles combined.
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They figured if retards pay 600 for virtual gimmicks might as well pay for gfx gimmicks.

I am forever happy with my 4GB 960.
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>>337947935
>...and people still wonder why PC gaming is a niche market.
It's not though
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All kinds of video games suck.
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>>337958508

The only place where gaming matters is Japan, and nobody there gives two shits about PCs
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>>337958187
Also, mobile games have a much wider available audience than consoles or Steam. There are expected to be over 6.1 billion smartphone users. That is a bigger audience than any console will ever get. You'd have to be a madman to skip over that many people.

http://techcrunch.com/2015/06/02/6-1b-smartphone-users-globally-by-2020-overtaking-basic-fixed-phone-subscriptions/
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>>337958596
*over 6.1 billion smartphone users by 2020
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>>337958596
>6.1 billion smartphone users

That's over 2/3 of the world's total population and 2/3 of the world are too poor to afford a smartphone.
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>>337958583

>Visual novels
>Eroge
>Hentai games

Excuse me?
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>>337958279
MUSTARDS BTFO
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>>337947935

They said the same thing about your mom but we still see her around regardless.
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>>337957750
>i3
oh consolefags...
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>>337958596
No thanks i like videogames not cash shops.
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>>337958794

>Call of Duty clones
>Skyrim clones
>Movies

Excuse me?
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>>337956378

>Uses monitor from 15 years ago
>Video card from nearly 10 years ago

"DURRHURR NOT EXPENSIVE OVER THE YEARS"

that's because you have shit hardware, anon. How's that 1280x1024 treating you?
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>>337958992
Then how do you explain
>>337958279

?
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>>337959031

What does that have to do with video games in Japan?
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>>337959007
Console-tier games are coming to your smartphone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLJQMjIcE0Q
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>>337952819
>Not paying to play means you're not playing video games

nice mental gymnastics desu
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really tempted to pick up a 1080 at launch but that $100 premium is stupid and the cooler sounds like it sucks
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>>337950317
mine runs everything on high at close to 60fps actually
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>>337958187
>>337958596
this
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>>337947935
Console gaming is a sign of poverty. When will you fags just fucking admit it? You can get consoles and flatscreens on fucking welfare lmao, but someone with an actual decent paying job can buy a top line PC and fill it with high end hardware without a second thought about it.

Posting shit like that just proves you're the former.
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>>337958279

I am actually curious but what does each one of you considers "SHIT"?

I heard people saying a 960 was complete garbage and it runs modern games at max settings 60 fps.

Fags say the i3 suck and yet my i3 runs just great.

What gives?
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>>337959275

Rationalizing is a form of desperation, when will you just admit it?
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>>337958596

So sad that the game that is generating billions of billions of dollars is a shitty kim kardashian dress up simulator.

TF2 needs to move to mobile asap.
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>>337949592
I'll have fun with my money and food too, thanks
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>Nvidiots claimed 2x performance
>mfw only 13% gains on 980ti
>mfw retards will still fall for the hype
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>B-but muh 60 fps
Literally nobody cares about fps nor should they, it has no effect on gameplay.
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>>337959345
Keep grasping those straws anon.
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>>337955328
>>guns
What are they?
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>>337957351
>Actually watch video
>Has a dynamic resolution which drops to keep the frame rate at 55 fps
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>>337959446

I can't grasp them when you already did
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Graphics and FPS literally don't matter. PCucks are delusional.
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>>337947935

This.
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>>337947935
It only does 1080p as well...not like that ps4k. The ps4k does ps4 games and 1000 of them (its in the k)
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>>337959345

Keks, no wonder nobody likes you poorfags.
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>>337959468
Thats double the framerate the pc equivalent 750ti offers
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>same incremental performance increase as the last 3 generations
>BUT NEW ARCHITECTURE WOOOO

I am unimpressed
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>>337958583
>The only place where gaming matters is Japan
>Japan
>The country where video games are pretty much all but dead
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>>337959540

Graphics don't, I agree. FPS do.

And I am not talking about crazy 120+ fps

60 is the perfect sweet spot.
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>>337959820
Console and PC gaming. Handhelds are going strong.
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>>337959820

PC gaming. Console and handhelds are going strong.
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>>337955328
Is the gun so they can kill themselves when they realize they've been had?
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>>337958187
>>337958596
Now if only they only had actual good games to play.

>>337959158
Just because it has last gen graphics doesn't mean it has console like gameplay. Which is all that is important.
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>>337959915
>>337959948
Handheld gaming. PC gaming and console gaming are going strong gaming
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A bit off topic, but what graphics card can I get without completely bottlenecking? Thinking about a 960
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>>337959915
>>337959948

WITNESSED
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>>337953448
>Does it run room on 60fps 1080p like console does?

You realize that I can put most games on lowest settings and play even with a shit pc at 60fps and 1080p?
First you have to tell me whether the consoles are running on low, medium, or high settings.
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>>337947935
>video card alone is stronger than all three consoles combined
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>>337960106

What's your GPU?
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>>337958178
>Plug PC into TV
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Forgot pic
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>>337958178
>friends can't grab a stick and jump in with you.

>implying local coop is a thing nowadays
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>>337960106

I mean CPU, my bad.
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>>337959741
the 750ti is also 2 generations old, and the 2nd worst of it's generation. If you're expecting to run a current gen game reasonably well with an outdated card, you might be autistic. Also, if you're worried about price, switch to AMD.
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>>337959540
>Graphics and FPS literally don't matter
except when comparing sonyshit to nintendo shit, then it's all that matters
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Is it worth upgrading over a gtx 980
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We should stop calling them video cards and start calling them massively parallel processors
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I think assembly is a big turn off too. We all know it's not hard, but most people assume you need a certain level of technical expertise to get it set up.
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>>337960263

Yeah a 960 is for you.
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>>337958178
>you can't plug your PC into your TV and use controllers with your friends on a couch

Except you can you ignorant peasant. PCs aren't bolted to the ground idiot.
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>>337958178
are you seriously pulling the couch co op card? the only console that has an edge in couch co-op is the wiiU. pretty nuch every fucking game that has couch co op on ps4 or xbone is on pc as well. plus video have hdmi ports, you know. you can plug them into tv's.
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>>337960418
What does it feel like to be attractive
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>>337960341
>2 years old
>already need to upgrade

>switch to amd
>your performance on nvidia sponsored games mysteriously gets halved

PC gaming sure is great
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>>337947935
>this card is already stronger than the consoles that will come after this generation
It's funny because long time ago I've paid a lot for my PC. A fucking lot. Really lot. It was long time ago, when PS3 was quite new.
Several years later and my PC can still run newest games in high-medium. Meanwhile people who've bought PS4 must save their money on new PS4.5
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>>337958178

>You can't PC game from your couch in your living room. friends can't chill and watch you PC game. friends can't grab a stick and jump in with you.

Not sure if bait or completely retarded.
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>>337947935

Can you buy a wii u, ps4 and xbox one for $599?
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>muh superier graphics
>muh mods
>muh fps
Fuck off PCuck nobody cares
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>>337947935
a HD7970 is 128 dollars and outperform the ps4 at least 2 or 3 times.
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>>337947935
>founders edition is $699
PS4 and XBOXONE cost at leat half of that price each
Can you please come up with a legitimate reason and not something you pulled out your ass?
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>>337959057

I don't care for the resolution since I'm so close to my monitor. I'm losing more details in my peripherical vision more than anything with this new 24 inches screen.

Would have been a different story if the definition of desktop would have improved in the last 15 years.
But I'm sure you are fine with a 3840×2140 screen still using 100ppi definition
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>>337960726
>Meanwhile people who've bought PS4 must save their money on new PS4.5
this is false, all games will run on regular PS4, inb4 you talk about how its not the optimal experience while you lower your graphics settings
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GTX1080 is revolutionary you get the best performance at an all low price of $600 there is literally no excuse to not have one
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>>337960832
You've forgotten about:
>muh games
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>>337960715
nVidia has been shit for years, people know that already. The gtx 750ti was an entry level card at best, SLI'd it could put in some higher grade work, but it was a card that was meant to upgrade from. There's a reason the card never peaked such high prices as the 780, 970, and the 980.
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>>337947935
What exactly is the pro of buying the Founder's Edition for $100 more? Also, wasn't $599 the starting point of the 980 TI?
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>>337960418

Wait at least 3 years before you upgrade your card unless you don't care about dropping $600 on a whim.

780 owners and below are the only people who should be upgrading, especially if you only have a 1080p monitor
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>wait for the new cards they said

You fags still wating? I got my 960 2 years ago and it runs nicely.

Are you fags still waiting or some shit?
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>>337947935
The high-end is always more expensive than low-end or mainstream, there's nothing special about that. There are obviously going to be fewer people buying the more expensive things.
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>>337960939
>it's optional
>SONY SAID SO
Sony said many things, you know.

>all games will run on regular PS4
>while you lower graphics settings
You're completely missing the point. What if framerate will drop below 15fps on regular PS4? Technically they will run but they will be unplayable. Plus. there are heavily FPS-dependent genres like fighting games - playing them on PS4.5 will be a must.
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>PC gaming
>ridiculously expensive
>lack of local multiplayer, too much emphasis on local single player, hard to play with friends on a night in
>lack of current-gen exclusives
>no unified online multiplayer platform like Xbox Live or PlayStation Network
>too much emphasis on KB&M gaming when controllers work better for non-shooters
>maintenance: gotta keep drivers up-to-date and resolve compatibility issues when on consoles all of that is taken care of for you
>made for being used at desks and not in the living room on a big TV
>party games are atrociously absent
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On a 780ti.

When do you think the 1080ti will release?
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>this new York strip costs more than a quarter pounder
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>>337961170

It's bullshit marketing from nVidia. It's their base reference card they're selling at $100 over msrp. You have to wait for 3rd parties like zotac before you see anything actually selling at $600
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>>337961084
>nVidia has been shit for years
Yet you are stuck with them if you want to do PC gaming properly

>The gtx 750ti was an entry level card at best, SLI'd it could put in some higher grade work, but it was a card that was meant to upgrade from. There's a reason the card never peaked such high prices as the 780, 970, and the 980.

Most of the "console killer" builds recommend this card, and you say its shit, which just proves that PC gaming is not as accesible as people make it out to be
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>>337955763
I don't live with my parents in a basement, I live with neighbors close by. Even when I turn my sub off at 9pm and turn shit down I still cannot hear my fan. My fucking ceiling fan, dishwasher, standing oscillating fan, and AC/Heat are louder than my PC fan. Doubt I'll get tinnitus.
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>and people still wonder why PC gaming is a niche market
Because retards can't into choices apparently, given the retarded assumption that the 1080 is the only card you can run games on
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Meanwhile:
>PS+ account costs 50 USD
>lifespan of console is somewhere ~7-8 years
>consolefags somehow ignore that
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>>337961535
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>>337961448
>t-they are lying
ok
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>tfw bought a 980Ti
>works great on my 1440p@144hz monitor
>play every game 75-144 fps
>1080 gets announced
>meh no need
>some people are saying the $350 1070 will be even better than my 980Ti

Such is life with PC gaming.
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>ferrari cost more than 3 cars combined

...and people still wonder why cars are a niche market.
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Nothing pisses me off more than faggots spending daddy's money buying expensive graphics cards for the sake of owning them when there's literally 0 (ZERO) games that are worth the investment.
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>>337947935
I find it funny how these PC elitists claim how cheap it is to build a PC. For fucks sake I saw someone post how they built a $600 PC that can run the witcher 3 on max settings when I know thats a fucking lie. He refused to give his specs. People doing builds love to leave out the cost of towers, hard drives, operating system (no one in their right mind building a fucking GAMING rig is going to use Linux) and other shit like that. When someone says they built this badass PC for $500 I assume they already have a $2k PC and simply upgraded the graphics card
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>>337947935
You say that like it's a bad thing.
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>it's a PC bait thread
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>>337957351
Wow it's almost like PC is running higher graphical settings or something
ps4 is a mixture of medium and high with x4 texture filtering, the video of the 750ti is ultra and nightmare with x16 texture filtering

You people are idiots
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>>337958178
I game from my couch, because I don't live with my parents. My PC is my TV/film machine as well.

My desk is in the same room with a monitor so I can use either my TV or monitor. I hardly am ever effected in multiplayer FPS by latency issues with my plasma so I rarely switch to the monitor.

Back in university people came over to play shit on my PC like Trine 2, Geometry Wars, a bunch of fun party games. Or we played social games like Diablo 2/3, etc.
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>>337961492
Strawmanning: The Post
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>>337961875
>actually purchasing Windows
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>>337961736
>$9.99/month
>get free games
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>>337961875
You literally can, if you would like I'll put together a PC part picker for you. I'm not going to factor in OS because just about everyone pirates that shit anyways.
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>>337961875
nah m8 you're just a child who doesn't understand
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>>337961492
>Alienware
It's funny how simple consolefags' minds cannot understand that you don't really need Alienware PC to play PC games.
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>>337961814
It isn't, don't worry anon
The 1080 benchmarks were relased today and they are barely more powerful than the 980ti with worse CUDA performance
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>>337958178
Antisocial you say? Tell that to everyone that comes to my LANS I host.
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>>337961578
The "console killer" builds are entry-level builds designed to be upgraded from. And also:
>doing PC gaming properly

How is AMD "improper" when compared to nvidia? The only way i could see anyone thinking this is if the only research you've been doing is through gtx commercials and Gamestop employees. AMD can do everything nvidia can do and recently has started to do it better, just look at the performane rates between the 970 and the 390.
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>>337961875
>$600 PC that can run the witcher 3 on max settings
well hes not wrong. maybe it was at 1080p 24fps, the true cinematic experience.
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>>337962276
Pretty much. Alienware might be good but it's on a 100% markup from the parts it uses.
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>>337961875
Seconded. I like PC gaming, but it sure as fuck isn't as cheap as some people claim to if you really want to get the most out of it.
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>>337962382
>laying a slice of pizza on the table itself and not a paper plate or paper towel at least

what the FUG
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>IT'S EXPENSIVE

You get what you pay for.

Be an adult and save some money if you can't afford it. It's not hard. Unless you're a child with no job, which seems to be 99% of console fanboys.

Stay poor kids. Know your place.
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>>337961993
(you)
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>>337956681
>Sales tax
lol no
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>>337947935

>buying the 1080 for play undertale and recettear
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>>337962382
>pizza on the table
Dude. FUCK YOU.
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>>337947935
OBJECTIVE TRUTH COMING THROUGH:

>Can you build a PC that can match a console at the same price point?

Yes

>Should you?

Fuck no. You get way better Price/Performance if you save up and buy a $600-$700 PC. You won't have to skimp out on parts and can actually upgrade later instead of having to replace everything because you bought the world's cheapest PSU, Case and Mobo
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>niche

http://www.gamersnexus.net/industry/2416-pc-gaming-inches-past-consoles-and-phones-in-revenue

>>337961875
Just read the budget builds. There's a huge difference between 1080p and 4k
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Oh wow. This has to be good right? Please tell me it is.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/283640/
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>not getting a 1070 instead
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>>337961492
Steam Machines are literally the best chance PC gaming has to getting a wider audience, but not too many developers are making games for them and not too many people are buying them.
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>>337962719
This. There's no point in building a PC if you're gonna play console-tier settings.

Save up and spend much more for better, something consoles cannot do.
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>>337962637
Don't forget about 4chan mate, that's why I built my $1000 PC, just for 4chan.
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>>337947935
It's a card for dumb nerdy people with too much money and a monitor that has insane resolution. They buy this to compensate their small penis and brag about their new flagship card (which will be outdated) in a few months.
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>>337958178

You can plug two or more keyboards in a single PC, there a lot of PC splitscreen games
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>>337962219
>get free games
>they are usually shit no one wants
>they do expire
It doesn't look like "get" to me.
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>>337947935
But it's only $600?
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>>337962384
Post this on a GPU thread and watch see happens, everyone shits on AMD
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>>337947935
>video card alone costs more than all three consoles combined

$2000 gaming build are "cheaper" when you get games of 3DM and piratebay, you should understand why /v/ love piracy much.
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>>337962791
>not too many developers are making games for them

It's just a PC with steam...normies can just go to best buy and get a decent value
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pc gaming wasn't always this expensive. it peaked in cheapness sometime last decade. you used to be able to get playable framerates in every new game with only a midrange card. if people didn't buy overpriced cards that are designed to obselete themselves in a year then we'd get better-optimized games.

i wish i'd never told anyone how to build a PC. the whole market has been taken over by dick-waving faggots who know nothing about technology, who only care about throwing their money away, buying shitty console leftover DRM games from their DRM store application and hoarding worthless items in the newest free-to-play survival zombie moba or whatever

you people. you who call yourseves the pc master race. you ruined everything
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>>337962219
>give money
>get something in return
>pretend it's free
How the fuck does cognitive dissonance to this level even work?
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>>337947935
LOOK AT THIS BRAND NEW GRAPHICS CARD THAT IS MORE POWERFUL THAN THE XONE AND PS4 COMBINED WHY THE HELL DOES IT COST MORE THAN THE XBOX AND PS4 COMBINED THIS MEANS ALL PC USERS ARE FORCED TO BUY BRAND NEW SIX HUNDRED DOLLAR GRAPHICS CARDS HAHAHAHHAH LMAO
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>>337962784
>$379 for just the video card
>Xbox One and PlayStation 4, the whole package, are both $349
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>>337962539
>>337962680
There, pizza gone, better?
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>>337963086
AMD sucks ass because they have no diver support. Nvidia has a driver update like every month or an update to optimize your drivers for whatever latest AAA game came out.
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>>337958178
>You can't PC game from your couch in your living room.
You can.
>my PC is in one room
>I can route AV signal to HD TV in other room
>wireless controllers work without any trouble there
It's laughable how peasants cannot into technology.
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>>337963262
>$349 for 24fps
no thanks
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>>337963191
It's called "free on point of delivery", and it's why people refer to single-player or nationalized healthcare as "free" even though it's not.
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>>337963427
>$2,099 for 60fps

Just great.
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>>337963175
>piratefag blaming DRM for ruining things

lol you're retarded

And my video card is from 2012 and I play new games just fine
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>>337963262
waht
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>>337963427
DELETE THIS
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>>337963487
>>$2,099 for 60fps
you mean 120fps?
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>>337963175
What "ruined everything" is the fact that AMD has been losing market share and failing to compete for years and years now. Intel and NVIDIA can afford to more or less do as they please.

>>337963446
You really shouldn't compare nationalized healthcare to console internet allowance.
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>>337963427

Shouldn't TotalBisquick be on bedrest
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>>337963631
Anything above 60fps is redundant.
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>>337963487
More like
>$1,000 for 140 FPS
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>>337963409
>AMD sucks ass because they have no diver support.
Not true. There are drivers every month now, they just don't slap a windows certification on it.
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>>337962719
This so much, at least for me PC is strictly an "you pay more than consoles so you get more than consoles" arrangement. Console-priced PC is such an horrible compromise in a every way that you would be stupid to not invest an additional hundred or two more: you get tons of performance for every single dollar at that point and actually start reaching a point where PC eclipses consoles in a meaningful way.
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>>337963487
my PC was only $800
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>>337963631
*until a new gpu line releases
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>>337963698
For peasants playing on displays that cannot handle anything above 60 fps that is.
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Pic related is about $2500 in value, mostly because of the monitor($650) and card (also $650). I didn't buy it all at once, some of the hard drives are carry-overs, as well as the 750W PSU.

I get 144fps in most games, lowest being like 70 when it dips. Highest settings, of course.
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>>337963698
>Anything above 60fps is redundant
>says the guy who has never played at 120fps
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>>337958176
Why would you even go beyond a i3 6320 assuming you are playing video games.
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>>337963963
>inb4
>Y-Yes I have on my friends PC
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>>337963951
>I get 144fps in most games
Most old games, you mean.
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>>337962380
some (a lot) of the games are almost twice the fps
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>>337963963
This, my friends with their pleb-tier PCs and 60hz monitors are like "There's no real difference past 60, you only think there is because you're expecting there to be"

>mfw
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>>337947935

You can get a R7 370. It's like 130 dollars or cheaper on sales and is better than what's in a PS4. Just couple it with a similarly 100 dollar-ish CPU and you're set. Sure, it'll cost slightly more than 400 bucks when you add everything else in but you don't have to pay to play online and you get legit good online sales depending on who you go with.

Plus you don't have to rebuy your games later through some HD re-release on another 400 dollar console.
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>>337959302
Console peasants have sand in their eyes
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>>337964109
stay jelly console peasant
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>>337960263
>temperatures in Fahrenheit
I didn't know such a thing could trigger me.
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>>337959275
>I spent hundreds more (and counting) than the launch prices of current games system on MY gamebox, therefore im better than you XD

Why are PC elitists so narcissistic and petty just because they paid a ludicrous price for cosmetics? The human eye can't even see much above 60 fps, most PC exclusives, like console exclusives, are either Gone Home, LoL, CSGO or plain shovelware. Good for you if you own a high end PC but fuck you if call me an idiot or poor just because you payed a ridiculous amount just to be able to play the same triple A schlock console users can with added bells and whistles, that's just like why Apple fans are the ultimate caricatures of consumers with their heads up their asses.
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>>337961535
Quality analogy
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>>337959456
https://youtu.be/rYdl4UDi4RI
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>>337964316
>not being able to convert it in your head
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You remember that time you got together with your buddies to play multiplayer PC games on your big screen TV in your living room and had a blast?
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>>337964391
I can convert it in my head. I'm a Canadian. I can convert all that stupid shit.

Still looks retarded for hardware monitoring.
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>console peasants only argument is that a really good PC is expensive
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>>337964424
yeah. we played jackbox, and we emulated wario ware for gamecube. it was grand.
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>>337964424
Yup, last weekend, we played duck game all evening
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>>337964424
yeah it was a few months ago. we played castle crashers.
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>>337949592
Good goy
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>>337962781
Art style is hot shit. HOT SHIT. I don't think I've ever passed up a game before solely because I could not STAND the way it looked. It's like sanding my eyes to look at that game.
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>>337962781
It's pretty much literally 2D Dark Souls
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>>337964581
It would be worth it if you had access to all the games, but you wont be able to play Persona 5, Bloodborne, Nier 2, Yakuza 0, Deep down, kojima´s new game, Ace combat 7 etc on it
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>>337964424
I sure do, lots of Cortex Command and Risk of Rain was played.
And alcohol and weed
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>>337964581

Hell, even if you're on a budget a PC comes out being cheaper now.

Now, if Sony hadn't been dicks and went for the pay to play online model they might have still had at least one positive point but with that added cost you're now officially better off with even on a budget PC in terms overall cost.

It's just a higher initial investment.
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>>337964109
I have just gtx970 and get near 144 fps in most games in 1080p

theres no law that forces you to run every game in ultra settings
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>>337962637

>witcher 3
>star citizen
>kingdom come deliverance
>battlefield
>AAA virtual reality
>racing simulators with ultra high fidelity visuals, unlike arcade racers on consoles

But of course

>implying the only games that run on your shit laptop are the only ones people play

You should've been aborted.
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>>337964954
There are enough games on PC to last your entire life and several more are being released as we speak.

You'll be fine if you miss a few console exclusives.
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>>337960442
Massive PP's :^)
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>>337964261
Nothing to be jelly of there. If you're not going for 4K image quality you could've at least bought an IPS 144Hz monitor instead of that TN garbage if you want to brag about it on the internet.

My graphics cards are pretty old now, but they'll be replaced with 2 1080s soon enough, I've been waiting to finally jump off of the 28nm shitheap.

You're also straight-up lying, there are plenty of games where you don't get anywhere close to 144FPS at 2560x1440 if you actually max them.
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>>337964954

But I will down the line when the next Playstation is launching and the PS4 is dirt cheap.

My only regret will not being able to play Bloodborne online with a full community and have to pay to give it's online a try for the first month or so but oh well. Even Demon's Souls still has a moderately active community so whatever. The rest of those I doubt will have a huge online component.
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>>337958178
Me and 3 friends played Helldivers on PC while sitting on my couch
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>>337965263
you need to calm down
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>>337965052
But the anon I replied to explicitly said he uses the highest settings, that's why I called him out on his bullshit. Of course you can drop settings and get good FPS.
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>>337964129
Citation needed
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>>337959405
>sub-$400 PC
>plays games like W3 and GTA V on Ultra
The plays.
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>>337963262

>paying 50$ more a year for internet you already pay for
>over 6 years thats 300 dollars
>games are locked to 60$ for the first year because no 3rd party digital distribution platforms
>console gamers end up paying more for games and online access wheras pc gets discounts before relase.
Typical.
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>>337965285
I agree, PC is the perfect platform for people with no standards
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>>337964424
you remember when they still made console games with local multiplayer?

also

>not using in home streaming and a wireless keyboard to play massive civ games in the living room
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>>337950317
>not a 960 for $150
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>>337947935
Buy brand new hardware was always retarded, just like buying new phones when they release.
At this point everyone knows that console companies make a big minus with the console itself for the hardware they use and the real cash comes with all the expensive games PLUS asking them to pay for online play once again. I have so many games on steam mostly through sales, that makes a good pc more than worth in terms of money efficency
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>>337965401
do people like you actually enjoy video games or are they just faggots?
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>>337965401
Killing Floor 2
Overwatch
H1z1

just the games I have been playing recently.

are you jelly I spent less and got more?

stay mad
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>>337965601
960, $140 wat
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>>337964129
Nope
15-25% performance increase, nothing you couldn't get from a decent overclock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXhHivCLBwc
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>>337965492
Sounds fun, did you do the streaming to TV thing? Or just hook up the PC to the TV?
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>>337962480
SURPRISE! Hobbies are expensive! News at eleven!

If we were to follow the same train of thought as some of you, in order to find the approximate cost of a console, we'd have to take into consideration the following conveniences: a television of appropriate size (so that it looks good when sitting from our couch); a comfy couch (go ahead and find me a cheap, well-made couch without resorting to some arbitrary distinction); a TV stand (because, honestly, who would put their TV on the floor?); the subscription fee for the console's online; three more controllers (you do have friends, right anon?); and, of course, the console itself. Let's assume it comes with five free games, because I'm so nice. That's roughly $300 after tax.

In conclusion: PCs are actually really cheap. Good argument, huh?
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>>337965401
top kek you can't even get past 60fps if you wanted to with those monitors

what a waste
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>>337965601
I imagine it struggles to maintain a solid 30 on Ultra.
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Is it worth dropping settings to get 120+ fps vs 90 fps on ultra?

Thinking of getting a 1070 and 1440p monitor
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>>337959435
>sub-60 fps
I want to play a game, not a slideshow.
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