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New high level gameplay of FF XV
Direct link because fuck IGN.
http://assets4.ign.com/videos/zencoder/2016/05/16/1920/633055cc13a7a42dde236a5a78d63c0b-5000000-1463456674-w.mp4
>>337935108
Eh.
>>337935108
Looks nice. I'm still hyped for it because of how smooth the animations are.
>>337935108
>high level
jej
On topic though, the dagger attack animations look way too pre-scripted (but that's shared among all ravage animations in the game it seems)
Also, I'm sick of seeing the Duscae region
Couldn't be more disappointed in the magic system. Shame it looks like the items in the Platinum Demo.
For the rest, >>337935294
>>337935108
Stupid ass looking boyband adventures fujoshit teenage girl tumblr pandering DMC combat ripping PS2 textures shit FF died with X gay sex looking SHIT
Both demos haven't really sold me, so I don't know what else the full game can do.
>fuck IGN
wow you guys are pathetic
>>337935747
What's so bad about the magic system?
>>337935108
how about a new fucking map already jesus fuck you fucking hacks
Garbage. Final Fantasy is a turn based RPG series Period. No. Debate.
Trying new things never meant being a new genre entirely, and that's what Square has forced on its fans for 15 years.
It all boils down to Toriyama Kitase Nomura and Tabata want their own style of game, before ever giving their core fanbase what they want instead, and they've done it for so long they've created this melting pot of people that fight all the time. In the end Final Fantasy rightfully belongs to the turn based community and they should have never had to share with other demographics in the first place.
This idea that "trends have changed" is a bulls*** lie they've perpetuated that gets shot to hell everytime it's put to the test. When ports and remakes outsell new games of theirs, when turn based Dragon Quest 9 broke the all time sales record in Japan it proves that the execs with Square-Enix don't know what they're talking about.
meh
come back when kingsglaive is released
>>337936154
Cry more, turn-based shitter.
>>337936154
I'm sure this is pasta but they don't care about japan. They want the westacuck bucks.
>>337936154
This is what blinded by nostalgia looks like.
>>337935108
It looks pretty, but is it fun? Do enemies do more than just stand around taking your hits?
>>337935954
Select magic, point at area in awkward third person aiming mode, release. Sure, in older FF games it was just selecting a spell and selecting magic, but they could have used something with a combo system like Kingdom Hearts.
>>337936596
Yes, actually the enemies design is pretty good in the way they attack and react to your attacks.
They're pretty active but you're being enough tools to deal with their attacks
>>337935108
The framerate looks better and the shuriken looks cool
>>337935108
At least maybe it's a sign that the HUD can be turned off
The latest one looks ugly as fuck
>>337936807
That's more for strategic placing. If you just tap the button, it throws it on the closest target automatically.
>>337936495
how is it nostalgia when people currently play turn based all the time and tons of turn based games do well
i mean technically all the most popular games in the world right now are turned based and you have to go pretty far down the list to find one thats not
>>337936807
>point at area in awkward third person aiming mode
You don't really have to do that though. If you're locked onto a target you will automatically throw your magic(?) at the enemy your locked onto
>>337937073
>i mean technically all the most popular games in the world right now are turned based
I didn't know CSGO, Dota, LoL, Gary's Mod, Starcraft were all turn based games.
>>337937073
Not sure if baiting, falseflagging or self-deluding.
>fuck IGN
the last bastion of real game journalism now that gametrailers is no more, its only their reviews that suck
>>337936996
>>337937091
Thanks, didn't know that. Makes it a bit better. Is it still treated like an item in the sense that you don't use MP but have to find or buy amounts?
Webms when.
>>337937190
I'm gonna go with all three. Anon needs to play some video games and not just read about them.
>>337937253
Craft and draw points (like in FF8)
>>337935108
>that ugly ass, incredibly boring world
The combats nice but it just doesn't have that FF charm to it anymore
>>337937253
There are elemental sources throughout the world from which you can drain and fill up your pokeballs (which are in turn, I guess, are a purchasable item) to use magic.
>>337936154
Calm down, kid
>>337936596
No
They'll throw an attack every 10 seconds but you'll stun them for 30 before they can.
>>337937368
thats a combat testing area that was shown in the gameinformer footage
>>337937539
Actually that's wrong.
You mostly deal with one enemy at a time, so others will always try to attack you in the meantime.
>>337935958
It's probably the same “part” or “demo” that G.Informer played. They did say SE have them playing another “combat mechanic” demo. If you’d notice they always fight at an almost exact same location or near it. A tower near a shack with duscae backdrop.
>>337935294
Sums up everything about XV to me.
Nothing looks bad but having been waiting for nearly a fucking decade for the game I just cannot make myself excited.
>>337937187
>>337937190
i was referring to cell phone games
>>337935108
Looks alright, but I'm not getting my hopes up. I'm not in a hurry to get it anyway since squeenix is taking so long to release the damn thing.
>>337937073
Too many fucking cool themed Japanese games are turn based nowadays.
>j-hipster, boy band/Belieber characters
>muh modern fantasy faggotry, instead of based medieval fantasy
>car faggotry
>nomura's fagtastic designs
>action gameplay faggotry, instead of proper ATB turn-based
>stupid over the top flashy teleporting (nothin personnel)
>generic kingdom hearts derivative music instead of glorious nobuo
>matsuno and grounded, western inspired fantasy gone forever
>sakaguchi father of FF is gone forever
Same as the demo...
lame
>>337938697
(You)
>>337938697
(You)
>>337935108
So fucking boring. I would literally turn that shit off if I were playing.
>>337939249
>I would literally turn that shit off if I were playing.
You've turned every game off that you were playing
>>337939535
>You've turned every game off that you were playing
>every game is FFXV
>>337935108
HAHA this is why Persona 5 is going to be better
>>337939779
Woosh
>>337937073
It is “nostalgia” because you whine about a change. And no, ATB or turn based RPG is not THAT great like most of you paraded it. It's repetitive, and a few challenging boss fights down the road in between hours of doing the same thing over and over again is not a good system. Even action based combat has it's own flaws.
>>337939865
>P5 better
Enjoy your biweekly story progression and the same “save the party member from evil” repetitive shit from P4.
>>337935108
Literally nothing personnel: the game
>>337940598
That already sounds better than the Backstreet Boys Roadtrip Fantasy.
>>337941630Nah, I like P3 better. I hope party members doesn't suck up to you as soon you saved them.
>>337935747
yeah, it may look cool but such boring battle gameplay kinda way too meh to care
>>337937931
>i was referring to cell phone games
>>337942212
hence the "technically"
I envy people who haven't played the demo and don't know how shallow it feels to pull that shit off
>>337943180
it looks like fucking MMO combat
I played a lot of Plat Demo. I feel the dodging is incredibly shitty because I'll press the button right before the attack hits me and I'll end up hit anyways. I try to change up my timing but it only seems to work randomly. Do I just need more practice or is the game broken?
>>337943527
The latter. Episode Duscae was miles better in that regards
>>337943372
No, Xenoblade X has mmo combat, which actually works and at least does it job.
FFXV is some weird shit stuck between action game and RPG and yet not being action RPG. Seems that only faggots who love it are kingdom hearts fans which has similar gameplay as far I gather.
I won't touch this turd of a battle mechanics ever, demos were enough for me.
>>337943884
Yeah, only KH fags don't really like the combat because of the reasons you statet - XV claims to be an action game but caters too much to casuals and turn-based faggots making it a lackluster experience.
At least KH felt fluid and responsive
>>337944069
ah, even better then
who the fuck this game aimed for? it can't decide what the fuck it wants to be.
seriously, only good thing about this game are urban locations. That's it.
>final dogma
>>337935108
Wait, SE didn't cancel this?
>>337944262
>who the fuck this game aimed for?
Tabata's old hands
>>337944262
>who the fuck this game aimed for?
Literally old men with bad hands who have bad eyesight
>>337943884
>kingdom hearts fans which has similar gameplay as far I gather.
I don't think the KH games have perfect combat but it feels much better than this.
>>337944650
>>337944907
so for old farts who think they are hot shit
gotcha
>>337944069
> casuals and turn-based faggots making it a lackluster experience
Blame japs for that.
>the demo felt too hard
2 nukes ain't enough.
>>337936154
>Garbage. Final Fantasy is a turn based RPG series Period. No. Debate.
No, it's an RPG that happens to have had turn based combat in the past, that many fans tolerated in order to enjoy the rest of the adventure
>>337945041
The sad thing is, KH3 probably going to have the “inject realism” meme. From what the trailers, it looks like they want to put some “weight” into Sora’s attacks.
>actual samurai
thats p neat.
combat looks like ass though..
>>337946113
Since it's being done by Osaka team I've tempered my expectations.
>dat framerate
>dat magitech glitching out
>>337937335
>Draw system is back
top REEE
>fujoshit prefer Persona
>combatfags prefer Tales
>seiyuufags prefer either of them
>alienated the dinosaurs/turn-based crowd
Good luck with your game, Square.
Inevitably, fanboys end up buying your games no matter how shit they are though, so I don't think you need the luck.
Plus you could get part of the casual market with the meme open-world and pretty graphics, so long as they can get over how homoerotic the game is.
>>337947104
thing is, normalfags will buy it, that what square is betting on
why hasnt anyone made webms yet
>>337947194
they've always done that
>>337947104
>waifufags prefers Persona
Ftfy
>>337947659
this time they just going all out
>anime and movie tie in
I mean holy shit that's one hell of marketing
It looks cool as always, but at the same time it looks like a complete mess of particle effects and animations that won't feel good to control
Having played both demos, there is nothing in the video that gets me excited for the game more or less than before.
I just hope the final game has responsive controls and feel good to play.
Waiting for the pc version.
>>337948562
It's better for you to hope for a good port with no 30fps lock.
Okay for fucks sake what is up with the combat in this game?
Everything looks clunky as shit and all I ever see is Noctis warping into some predetermined warp point and then having a BILLION recovery frames where he lazily drags his ass around
Why the fuck is it so slow?
>>337948635
Why would it be? It isn't a port of a PS2 game.
>>337936807
>combo system
>KH
>in FF
You feel it too, don't you?
>>337935108
about what i was expecting, ultra high tier graphics and fancy dissidia sparkleshit combat
good thing most other companies have already long passed FF in this genre or i'd be starving looking at this
>>337948638
“Realism” or the normies will complain about “floaty” combat
I see is a gay faggot emo teleporting around in the sky, it hardly looks cool or fun
>>337935810
Oi. The gay sex is the only good looking thing about this game.
>>337949113
>paraded next gen graphics
>watered down combat system
Huh, they really are trying to make an FF7 of this gen.
>inb4 FF7 is actually great
Hah, no. Mediocre at best.
>>337950385
>i have such good taste because i don't like a 19 year old video game
>a game nobody mentioned but you
fuck off dude.
>>337935108
They finally fixed the fire. It looked like shit before
>>337935108
Remember Kingdom Hearts 2? Remember how godlike the combat was? How did Osaka Team fall so fucking far?
>>337944525
uh no, there's even a movie coming out soon and they have an anime running that is a prologue to the game.
>>337950561
Still salty from the IGN list are you?
>>337950892
I find it funny and a little fucked up how people constantly jump back and forth between using gamejournos to validate their shit opinions and then shitting on them the rest of the time, and making fun of people who buy into gamejourno opinions.
>>337944525
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AptAyPIL88
is FFXV kun dead or moved onto no man's sky?
I want to lick his nose!
>>337951436
It's midnight in australia mate. Crikey
>>337936154
All I want is a FF with the combat system of X, the attention to detail of IX and a plot written by Matsuno. Is that too much to ask?
>>337952489
>x
>not x-2
>>337953321
>not XIV
>>337936154
Not really, it just means you and a bunch of other faggots can't handle change nor can you handle the fact that things should, can, and will change. The older games are there for you to play if you desire turn-base combat so much and other devs make turn-based combat games as well. Also, unless you work for Square Enix, shut the fuck up about business and execs etc. You are a consumer who buys games to play them; limit your opinions to the shit you know, not the shit you think you know.
>>337935108
are those giant samurais?
or the protagonist and his group are manlets?
>>337952489
Yes it is, because that's not what the majority is asking for.
What the fuck are those Samurais
>>337953850
Giant samurai. Bushido and bringing honor to your famiry makes you a big fucking guy.
>>337943527
Some attacks can be dodged, some cannot. AOE attacks from the IG cannot be dodged.
Dodge works perfectly fine. You just need to watch out for which attack you use it on.
>>337935108
I hate how the magic looks like a ball in Noctis's hand. It looks really dumb.
>>337953850
they're manlets
It''s pretty much confirmed the samurais are 5'11
>>337953850
They're big guys.
When are they going to show fucking ring magic? There has to be more to the MP gauge than just using throwable weapons and warping and dodging.
>>337936154
>Final Fantasy is a turn based RPG series
top kek
>>337936154
no one actually likes the turn based fighting in the series, it was something that we tolerated because it was viewed as a necessity to make the game work. The other aspects of the games were so good that it was still fine. That is no longer the case. Welcome to the present.
>>337954550
All skills cost MP
All magic will just be items, accept it
>>337954753
>All skills cost MP
But in the plat demo you could use skills for free, did they change the mechanics back to Duscae?
Framerate looks tonnes better.
Fucking Japanese magic
>>337954834
That's not even true.
>>337955267
What? That you could use skills for free in the plat demo? You could just by pressing the directional buttons, all the Broadsword's skills were totally free to use.
>>337954540
for you
>>337955674
You're actually retarded. Like holy fuck.
>>337956285
He's right. Triangle is now for warping and you activate tempest skill by holding the stick away from the enemy and pressing the attack button
this is going to be the best final fantasy of the whole series
Hahaha, FF even trying? I mean Tokyo Mirage session is going to blow this out of the water.
>>337953850
Both
>>337954365
how the fuck are you supposed to know
you can't build a game with a non-telegraphed distinction between blockable and unblockable attacks that ALSO has apparently severe input lag problems
how are you supposed to work it if it's unblockable or you just fucked up
>>337937368
?
>>337957869
The game tells you not all attacks are dodgeable.
And Dodge works perfectly fine since it's an on or off state depending on if the button is being pressed. It's not an input lag issue.
>>337957869
>>337958635
The demo has issues, but seriously, no one even bothered reading the load screens saying this or even experimenting a bit with an action combat system.
>>337954753
Skills are party commands now. But I doubt they'll cost MP, but it didn't, MP bar is somewhat useless in this game. And like this guy >>337954834 said (he's probably saying about the skill Tempest, where in Duscae it's an active command, but in Platinum it's a different combo set for the greatsword). So now, you'll have 2 type of tempest skill, one for Noctis and one for Gladio.
>>337958635
>The game tells you not all attacks are dodgeable.
but how are you supposed to know which ones are or aren't
>337959050
don't put your tutorial on the load screen if you want people to notice it
>>337959618
It's not just about the loading screen. It's about everything during the Iron Giant section. Can't people at least try to see what, I dunno, trying to do different button combinations does? There were many who had no idea how to begin aerial combat because the game didn't tell them.
>>337959618
>>337960182
*said aerial combat didn't exist in the demo
>>337959618
>but how are you supposed to know which ones are or aren't
This is my take on this, Noctis, despite can dodge things (the blue shadow thing), have a limited range where he can maneuver like that. He can easily dodge sword swings but fails to dodge something huge coming at him like when the Iron Giant slamming his fist on the floor or the tail swip of the behemoth.
Combat in this game is great when you get the hang of it, Air combat is instantly deeper than KH2FM. KH2 you had no control of where sora went and you just spammed X doing the same combo while juggling the enemy till you were done.
In XV however you use the direction stick while in Air to flip and dodge. You can also swap weapons which also will make a bigger difference in the final game, In my Webm I am quickly reading the IGs moves and swapping to Fire then tapping Triangle for a cheaper quicker warp away then swapping back to my sword after he is done attacking to trade.
That half-frozen behemoth was pretty cool.
>>337935108
Looks shit.
>>337960182
>>337960331
> Can't people at least try to see what, I dunno, trying to do different button combinations does?
yes, almost everyone naturally does this. xv does a poor job of making this process intuitive/giving feedback, which is why a lot of people didn't get very far with it. the dodging is one example of this. it's hard to tell how it works without extensive experimentation where it's actually a pretty simple system, just poorly signified.
I don't get GAF's complaintx about control feedback response when most of the unresponsiveness with the combat comes from bad framerate/pacong.
>>337935108
>magic is consumable items
>weightless button mashing on slow enemies that don't react to being hit
>>337935647
It's the debug test area that Gameinformer also played around in, just using that small duscae section.
>>337958473
I don't even know what are you trying to imply with that generic crap.
>>337936154
Only 4 mainline FF are turn based, kill yourself the entire point of FF is change.
>>337966586
Hi XV-kun.
>>337936807
Press l1 to lock on then tap circle to cast it will instant cast.
>>337937335
>>337946897
No it's like magic charges in FF1
>>337939865
P5 looks like ass with a dvd menu passed off as combat.
>>337939865
Honestly this, I'm sure KH fans will be happy to get two games from SE this generation but for JRPG fans Persona 5 looks like the better pick.
>>337943527
Dodge roll has no iframes so you need proper timing to evade with dodge rolls. Using the backflip on airstep sword gives you some iframes though. You can also use shield to get perfect blocks with correct timing and topple enemies with it.
>>337967547
I'm a jrpg fan, that's why I don't like shit games like Persona. It has absolute rubbish combat, the story sucks more than usual for a jrpg and you spend 50 hours reading social link shit you don't care about.
>>337967732
>I'm a jrpg fan, that's why I don't like shit games like Persona
What?
It's literally looking like one of the top JRPGs this gen what about DQXI? New Star Ocean?
When are we getting a main line Crystal Chronicles game? What I wouldn't do to see CC's world better explored.
>>337967845
>What?
I just told you why I don't like shitty Persona games. They are bad games.
>DQXI
Don't know anything about this yet. Hope it is good.
>Star Ocean
Garbage
>>337967547
P5 looks like trash.
>>337967732
At least we can look forward to 7 Remake, right?
R-right..?
Guys?
>>337967732
This guy knows whats up
>>337965706
Magic is in charges like in FF1 and ring magic is a separate thing from that. The enemies do all react.
>>337966586
That's just a myth spread by people, each one was supposed to be on such a scale it was their last game ever, it didn't mean that they were free to change it all at will.
>>337968554
It's polite to say hello back, XV-kun.
>>337968481
>episodic compilation retcon shit
No
>>337966465
Does this look generic to you? I can't find a single town in any video game that looks like tihs.
That gameplay looked better than usual. Is that PC gameplay or did they really improve the graphics?
>>337968595
No it isn't, Sakaguchi flat out stated it.
>>337968481
FFXV will be better than VII ever was
>>337968791
This looks like Duscae but tweaked.
>different post-processing
>full on weather system
>full procedural cloud generation
We saw Duscae on the PS4, and this looks similar. This is likely PS4.
>>337935108
How am i supposed to enjoy dressing up my characters if there's not a single girl party member???
0/10
>>337966465
>waaah where muh fantasy locations!?
>Here's a medieval fantasty kingdom with floating castles overgrown with nature and with giant swords impaled around the kingdom.
>g-generic?!?
>>337968791
>pc gameplay
>>337968891
Don't reply to me until you get some manners, XV-kun.
>>337960901
The combat is legitimately pretty solid and has some interesting tech going on, and I'm sure we'll get a lot of videos immediately following the game's release demonstrating even more of that. It's just that PD kind of sucks as a demo, it's very obviously a quickly thrown together affair made of tech demo components and it tells the player effectively nothing of any substance about how combat actually works.
Having only the Iron Giant to fight doesn't help matters either. I don't get why they couldn't have added more of those modifier buttons and have them spawn different mobs.
>>337935647
You're right, these attack animations are so scripted, unlike every other jRPG where you get one single attack animation no matter what you do. What a shitheap of a game fuckin trash fire.
>>337968791
It looked smoother, FPS looked more stable.
>>337969096
We already know it's coming to PC silly
>>337969124
Why are you calling everyone in this thread XV-kun?
>>337937931
What the fuck
>>337969363
Because it's obviously XV-kun?????
>>337969427
You've called multiple people XV-kun now
>>337935108
That didn't look terribly different than what's possible in the demo besides the daggers and magic.
>>337935108
>http://assets4.ign.com/videos/zencoder/2016/05/16/1920/633055cc13a7a42dde236a5a78d63c0b-5000000-1463456674-w.mp4
That actually looks very good, like someone said the animations are very smooth. The framrate needs to be solid, and then it's all good.
Hopefully the Neo is real so we'll get this game running at an acceptable frame rate. Video shows improvement though.
>>337950709
Osaka Team didn't work on KH2.
>>337969534
If by "multiple people" you mean "XV-kun."
>>337969592
Neo is real, do people still think Neo isn't real?
>>337969736
So now you're saying XV-kun is multiple people?
>>337969346
>>337950709
Do people not remember how night and day start game KH2 was to end game KH2FM?
>>337968595
>it didn't mean that they were free to change it all at will.
That's egostistic coming out of you. The series are theirs and not yours. They are free to do what they want with it.
>>337969375HOY
>>337969874
>>337937193
Funny thing is, IGN just acquired Gametrailers and all of its assets today.
>>337969856
I'm saying XV-kun is XV-kun and I've been calling XV-kun XV-kun.
>>337937193
GT guys formed a new thing called EZA easy allies.
>>337970242
It's a boogeyman meme, just stop.
>>337970242
I'M XV-KUN
>>337968749
Well, apart for being generic, that also looks like shit. All that talk about the power of the new engine, and this is what we get? Man.
>dashing attack
>dashing attack
>dashing attack
>float forever
>dashing attack
>dashing attack
This looks fucking horrendous.
>>337970134
You don't understand game development do you?
All games are developed on PC and then made for the consoles to run on.
As you can see he has a PS4 controller connected to the PC to test the PS4 controls.
It's not coming to PC for a very long time.
>>337970034
Got any of themrare hoys?
>>337970693
Here's your (You).
>>337935108
I so badly wanted this game to blow my mind, but with both demos being underwhelming and this magic system I think I have to resign myself.
I pray that the world and the plot and the characters are enough to redeem the entire experience. To be fair, everything we've seen of this has been pretty neat. And that's the main appeal of Final Fantasy so there may be hope.
Still would've preferred if they just copypasted Kingdom Hearts gameplay like Nomura wanted to.
>>337969732
I'm gonna assume that >>337950709 meant Tokyo team, since they did both KH2 and XV and Osaka had nothing to do with either.
And the answer I think is Tabata not having a clear and distinct vision of what the combat should be. It feels like he's keeping the combat in because he has to when he'd really just like to make a movie about four buddies on a road trip. The fact that the core mechanics completely changed every six months since Tabata took over seems like proof of that.
>>337970745
You an idiot of somekind? All warp based movement consumes MP, you didn't even list any criticisms, just another shitpost.
>>337970693
I'd like to play these generic games that you speak of.
>>337937193
gematsu is pretty based
>>337971190
But that's wrong and the core mechanics haven't changed at all.
>>337971348
Yea, I use Gematsu, Siliconera, and IGN.
>>337971206
Are you blind? Every fucking tech demo has been "warp ninja".
Anyone who can see that faggot they call the main character begin to float forever by "warp dashing" continuously and not think this game looks like shit, has shit taste.
>"what does this weapon do?"
>warp dash and slam into enemy
>"how about this one?"
>warp dash and slam into enemy
>"these all feel so unique"
>warp dash and slam into enemy
It's shit.
>>337969983
KH2 still felt crisp and responsive at the very beginning. The problem with XV is how floaty and disjointed everything feels. It doesn't feel like each button press corresponds 1-to-1 to an action on screen. Instead when you press a button it puts you in an automated stance until you do something different.
>>337971190
I dunno, I really enjoyed Platinum Demo after all the mechanics were figured out by people.
>>337971354
Is that why Platinum Demo plays completely differently from ED?
>>337971208
Good for you, mate. Here, have a lollipop.
>Shows dagger, sword, greatsword, shurikens and magic
>Only shows the spear once at the end
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE SHOW ME MORE DRAGOON STUFF YOU SLANT EYED GOOKS
>>337971585
Can you explain what you mean by 1-to-1? I Kingdom Hearts, I can press a button 9 times but Sora will still perform 3 strikes.
It doesn't correspond to 1 action on screen.
>>337971769
So you've no answer. If you're gonna shipost, at least do it well.
Saw Coerll get lit on fire it looked like he instant targeted that.
>>337970142
Your retarded gt are easy allies now on patreon
How many weapon skills do you think will be in the game? I'm hoping at least five skills for each weapon type, any less than that and we're looking at ridiculously repetitive combat even with weapon switching.
>>337937193
Gt really didnt leave for more than a month, they are called easy allies now, they do it part time though so sacrifices are to be made such as countdown and trailer score
>>337971578
Oh it's you again, that one faggot seriously triggered over the fact that you can warp and do aerial combat, kill yourself.
>trying to milk a already dead saga with k-pop style characters and flashy graphics
>people have been waiting 10 years for this
>>337971578
But warp spam with the greatsword class is really shit though, you can't spam tempest and charge slash in mid air.
You'd have a point if you were only talking about swords and shuriken.
>>337971737
That was based on feedback though.
>>337971585
Crush, vanquish and aerial all feel 1:1, only ravage doesn't.
>>337971578
I mean, Warping and managing MP is the main balance to the combat. It's actually pretty fun to do, since you can't spam the most powerful moves.
>>337972373
You're fucking delusional.
This shit looks like DMC, not FF. It's utter trash.
>>337972574
>not FF
Good, I don't need to play Final Fantasy 1 fifteen times.
>>337972574
I could care what it looks like as long as it's a good game. Seriously.
They could call the next Dark Souls an Assassins Creed game but I'd buy it because it would still play well. Why do you care so much about the name?
>>337971737
You do realize ED purposely left out a ton of features like aerial combat, weapon switching, magic etc, right? The core system itself didn't change.
>>337971884
That's because you're mashing the button while Sora's already in the middle of an action. Each action Sora takes (attacking, spells, items, dodging, guarding, whatever) is tied directly to a single button press that happens immediately as soon as you press the button, unless you're already committed to another action, in which case it'll usually buffer it and execute it as soon as your current action ends. If you're just mashing the attack button than Sora will attack nonstop until his combo ends, but you can also just do one press per attack/spell/whatever.
>>337972859
But can't you do the same in XV? You can keep mashing/holding attack but then press defend as soon as an enemy attacks. I don't get the issue.
>>337972845
>The core system itself didn't change.
But that's wrong, the way you perform attacks did change, instead of using the ED system you now have access to a single weapon's entire moveset, instead of only having part of it like in ED.
Weapon skills are also more like an action game now, instead of scrolling through a menu and choosing the skill, each skill is tied to a specific weapon and button input.
It's not much, but they clearly changed the system.
>>337935108
i can't wait for this game but that wasn't anything special
It looks alright but it still looks like a downgrade from duscae/early footage.
The camera was much more closer to the MC in earlier footage and made the game much more personal.
The camera in all the new footage is always like 5 feet away from the character and it looks shit.
I'm still buying this game day one though
>>337935108
What is this shit? This isn't high leveled at all. Most of this is in the tech demo
>>337943527
You can just hold down the button and he'll dodge when it needs to happen as long as you're not doing any other action. Some attacks can't be dodged.
>>337972476
Show me kpop characters that look like Gladio, Cor, Regis, Ignis, Ardyn, Cid, Iedolas, Verstael, Glauca etc, or better yet tell me how Cloud, Squall, Vincent, Sephiroth, Tidus, Reno, Zidane, Vaan, Bartz, Locke etc aren't kpop.
>>337973308
The camera is only like that during combat.
>all these people talking about gameplay when it's all about the bro banter
I wasn't looking forward to it as much, but then I played ED and saw that all the guys are snarky cunts who constantly shit on each other, then I got hype.
>>337972545
Don't bother with that faggot, he's a notorious samefagging autist in these threads.
>>337935108
holy shit this game looks worse and worse as development progresses, there are literally no shadows what so ever being rendered past 10 meters away from the characters, and all this just to make those shitty particles more prominent? also the characters all move with too much fucking weight to their animations, implying that controlling them will be fucking tedious and annoying instead of responsive, this sucks big monkey balls.
>>337972574
Here's your (You).
>>337972845
The basic button layout changed.
The Crush/Vanquish/Ravage mechanic was completely dropped in favor of traditional weapon switching.
The weapon skills from ED are completely different, if they're still there at all.
Armiger was given its own meter instead of being tied to MP.
Even ED to ED2.0 changed things like how lock-on works and how dodging is handled.
And those are just the changes between the public demos. You're delusional if you think the gameplay's been completely consistent since E3 2013.
>>337973632
>all move with too much fucking weight to their animations
Really? I've seen some people complain it looks floaty and weightless.
I played the Plat demo and it didn't feel tedious to me, barring the ridiculously low I-frames on the dodge roll which basically forces you to hold square to defend, which I hate.
>>337973540
I hope so
>>337973712
>if they're still there at all.
Weapon skills are tied to weapons and specific button inputs now, and seem to be really spammable, you can tear the Iron Giant in the plat demo a new asshole in thirty seconds with broadsword tempest spam.
>>337973308
I am Cuban and I cannot begin to describe how happy I am it got represented in Lestallum. It is almost enough to make up for the fact that Cuba is, in fact, one of the crappiest places on Earth.
>>337973860
It was like that in duscae
>>337972684
>>337972813
>it doesn't matter what the game is called, as long as its good
>themes and aesthetics don't matter, it's all about the gameplay
And that gameplay looks like hot garbage.
>>337974430
>themes and aesthetics don't matter, it's all about the gameplay
Who are you quoting?
>>337974012
They certianly made it look very good with a distinct visual style.
