Your move, AMD.
>>337931561
Forgot Vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXhHivCLBwc
>>337931561
Right now they are focusing on the CPU front. They are putting most of their efforts on Zen.
>>337931749
They're focusing on mainstream GPUs right now. That's what Polaris is for. Vega is for high end which is in October. Zen is scheduled for Q4.
Still no 60fps average at 4k, time to wait another year, this card honestly offers nothing.
>>337931968
I want AMD to secceed. I have an AMD GPU+CPU. Their business practices are better for everyone. They are much better is terms of price/power ratio. But they just seem to be bad at business. Nvidia is proving you need to jew to win. ;_;
>>337932572
Why is 4K just a big deal to you win most games don't even have textures good enough to take advantage of it?
>>337932692
Not really. /g/ is nothing but a circle jerk about Linux and open source software and they do nothing but shitpost if you try to talk about anything related to Windows or gaming.
>>337932625
>jew to win
Putting out more powerful hardware isn't jewing. And last I checked Nvidia forced AMD to lower their prices on their cards after the 970 and 980 were released since they had lower pricing. Hell they had to lower the price on the Fury cards after the FuryX was a disappointment. Both companies have forced each other to be competitive in pricing. If AMD can't keep up, that's their problem.
>>337932771
my monitors are 1440p and 2160p (4k) I just want a single gpu system capable of running 60 constant on it.
How will AMD recover from this?
>>337932996
The fact that Nvidia is unmatched with the high in cards is irrelevant. Most people don't go for the high and AMD is the best bang for your buck for mid end cards. Even assuming that Nvidia beats AMD in performance across all tiers that alone should had made a %90 market share difference.
>>337933458
>AMD is the best bang for your buck for mid end cards.
It's a shame I can't say the same about their drivers.
>>337932572
Wait for more benchmarks
The aspies doing these reviews are running MSAA and other intensive AA methods that are made moot by 2k/4k
>>337931561
HBM2 next year and AMD is releasing their next gen cards first.
Nvidias new Pascal cards are last gen Maxwell refreshes with a smaller die. Sure they beat AMD's last gen crap like the 290 but not even by a significant margin. AMD's Vega will rape Pascal.
>>337933687
>Nvidias new Pascal cards are last gen Maxwell refreshes with a smaller die.
>HBM2
Yeah just like the FuryX with it's STATE OF THE ART POWERFUL HBM beat the 980ti, right?
AMD users in denial!
>>337933652
>Wait for benchmarks where they turn off some effects because AMD can't handle it
>>337933882
There's no GPU on this planet that beats Fury X's performance per watt performance at its size. It was never supposed to go against a GPU 3x its size like the 980Ti.
>>337933536
nvidia's been the one with driver issues lately though.
>>337933536
AMD drivers aren't bad. In fact as of now it is Nvidia who is failing at drivers for Windows 10. Again this is where jewry comes in, Nvidia is buddy buddy with developers to purposely use exclusive software in games with no real benefit but to gimp AMD. AMD doesn't lock down their technology so Nvidia can adjust their drivers for an AMD optimized game but Nvidia doesn't allow AMD to do the same. Nvidia even engages in outright unethical practices such as false advertising and sabotaging their olding hardware to force upgrades.
But gamers are idiots so they buy Nvidia anyway because they must have the best performance for gimped console ported games that should easily be maxed out with low-mid in cards if they were properly optimized.
>>337933882
What? I'm not defending AMD my man. I'm saying the use of fluff settings is underselling the 1080
Using rendered AA at post 1080 res is retarded
>>337934169
>Le gimping AMD MEIOMIEO!
>benchmarks
>none of them compare the card to my 4850
how do I tell if its any good
>>337933882
Nvidia 1080 is literally a overclocked 980 ti with a smaller chipset
>>337934169
> sabotaging their olding hardware to force upgrades.
Pretty sure that was proven false. In fact there are videos showing this.
>>337934274
Are you really going to make a retard of yourself by resorting to mem spurting?
>>337934403
Don't forget the 1080 is missing shaders and costs $100 more.
>>337934403
>This new GPU is just like the old GPU except it's faster.
>>337934579
It's the same speed, the only difference is the die is smaller and they changed the name.
>>337934534
1080 is $599 bro.
>>337934679
980ti used is $300 already
>>337934534
I'm new to PC gaming. Aren't shaders software, how could a GPU be missing shaders and can't they just be add in through a driver update?
>>337934463
Source please? I know they falsely advertise. I saw their fake video that showed a batman game that was locked at 30 FPS and could barely run performing at 60 FPS.
>>337933687
>Nvidias new Pascal cards are last gen Maxwell refreshes with a smaller die
I don't get it. Why do you lie. Do you have absolutely zero idea whatsoever at all of how engineering chips works? In practical terms, Pascal is as far away a 'refresh' of the last microarchitecture as we've had in the past 5 years. Do you have any idea what that word even means?
To be perfectly clear, every single architecture is a refresh of its predecessor because of how engineering of the chips works, but that's why I said practical terms, meaning the last mile. To go into specific examples, the Radeon R9 280X is, even in practical terms, a refresh of the Radeon HD 7970.
>paying $700 for a Maxwell die shrink
No. Volta here we come.
>>337934667
>It's the same speed
>base clock is 1607
>VRAM runs at 10GHz
>same
>>337934760
>This old used card is cheaper
>>337934778
I believe you made the claim first so prove they gimped.
>>337934778
Shader cores
They are located on the graphics card itself.
No they can't be fixed with drivers, just like the 3.5GB issue with the 970 can't be fixed through drivers.
>>337931561
Fuck off. Nvidia memory is fucking shit. HBM2 is going to DESTROY nvidia. What is going to matter with all these ridiculously high textures in new games is the memory.
AMD cards (by FAR) have a MUCH wider memory bus than Nvidia.
>>337931561
>82C
>EIGHTY TWO CELSIUS
H a r d c o r e s h i l l i n g
>>337934970
Why do you even need a memory bus if you've gotno driver?
>>337934970
Just like HBM destroyed Nvidia?
ONE HUNDRED AND FOUR CELSIUS
>>337931591
>>337931561
>Your move, AMD.
Why?
Vega won't come until October-January.
AMD won't and has no real reason to compete with a 800€ card right now.
>>337934807
Pascal is a fucking rehash of the GTX 900 series. It can't even Async compute at a hardware level just like Maxwell.
All Nvidia has done is did a die shrink, overclock the cards, and the rebranded and marketed them as brand new bleeding edge cards.
Anyone who gives a shit about performance knows to wait for HBM2 next year. Where high bandwidth memory is actually NEEDED to push 4K resolutions and silky smooth VR.
>>337935205
A $599 USD card?
>>337932996
>more powerful hardware
but on paper they're not
in most straight bench shootouts that aren't videogames AMD wins
>>337935035
I have a 6950 from 2011 so I've been waiting for Polaris but people are saying I have to wait until the holidays, I can't wait that long. Pascal is right around the corner and I need something to play on my rig.
I'm also moving to another state around that time so if I'm going to purchase a new card, it has to be before october.
>>337935306
>Le it's just the same GPU just smaller meme
If you keep repeating this it might turn out to be true!
>>337935201
DELETE THIS
>>337935326
That's not the reference card they are selling now for an early retard price of 700$.
>>337935432
You Nvidia shills are either in defense mode or are clearly retarded
>>337935486
Uh yes it is. It's a reference card. It's not a special card. Nvidia already said this along with every other person who has their hands on one.
AIB cards will come out in June. Those will
>>337935189
i really want them to be a couple
how did everything go so wrong anons?
>>337935201
Graphics cards throttle themselves around 95C to avoid damaging the components. Literally all cards do this so they don't start fires. Nice try though I guess
Just a reminder that AMD has total control over the gaming market now. Every major console maker has their machines built with AMD. Games on PC are now going to be using Vulkan and DX12 which are all based on Mantle'a core API which was made exclusively by pic related.
>>337935201
I expect this to be shitposted for the next few months.
>>337935674
>Uh yes it is. It's a reference card.
No, the reference card is sold for 699$ and the other, actually only useful one, is going to be sold for 599$.
>>337935432
Say whatever you want
Smart consumers will be waiting for when Nvidia actually has a new architecture which will mean actual better performance, not maxwell on steroids.
>>337935201
Really? Are AMD fan boys this fucking desperate?
Of course synthetic benchmarks heat up a card. Show me one single game where it would even get close to that temp. Oh right you can't.
>B...but Crysis 3!
Fucking 20 degree difference. Once cards with custom coolers are out temps will be half of that.
![gtx-1080-ashes-bench-1080p[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/U1s14zh.png "gtx-1080-ashes-bench-1080p[1].png")
>>337935825
>total control
>muh Mantle FUD
>muh DX12
GTX 1080 is the fastest single GPU on the market. It's over, AMD is done.
>>337935754
What is it about that specific temperature that helps hardware avoid damage?
>>337935864
That 599$ is still a reference card since it's using Nvidia stock coolers.
I'm looking forward to the GTX 1070 reviews. It should be just about on par with the 980 ti, thus about equal to my GTX 780 SLI setup in most games, except with 8GB VRAM, no SLI headache and all that jazz. Will gladly upgrade as long as the price is sane.
>>337935754
not in furmark
>>337935884
>Nvidia actually has a new architecture
This is a new architecture. The fuck are you faggots smoking?
>>337935825
It's because AMD is smart. Nvidia could never have Console makers afford to use their shitty low end GPUs in a console along with their horrible closed source GoyWorks crap. No one would stand for it.
>>337935825
AMD is going out of business when the GTX 1070 and 1080 comes out.
>>337935946
What are you talking about?
Founder's edition = 699$ with stock cooler -> What we call "reference card"
Normal card with custom PCB/coolers = 599$
>>337936032
Nah they're actually doing better than ever nowadays. They're on the come up this year and the drake posters and green teamers are sweating it hard.
>780 still perfectly fine for 1080p60
>1080 still not good enough for 4k60
Literally no reason to upgrade
>>337935997
What is the with the AMD fanboys obsessing over Gameworks?
You went for a slightly cheaper AMD card, it runs games totally fine, but you sometimes have to compromise on some advanced eye candy. Why are you so mad about it again?
>>337935201
>reference cooler
>>337936140
I've heard this exact sentence every year since 2007. Excuse if it starts to sound somewhat implausible.
>>337936168
It's for the 1440p people.
>>337935825
I wish this was true. Ubisoft games proved that just because a game was optimized for consoles doesn't mean it will be optimized for AMD cards on PC. And Sony consoles never had Directx so no even if a game used Mantle for a console game they could use Directx for PC and they probably will because PC games are unoptimized on purpose to sell cards (if games were properly optimized we would still be maxing out every AAA release with GPUs from two gens ago).
I bought from nvidia and their card failed on me
>>337936185
Huh? What are you talking about?
Even big fat loser shills who get Nvidia products for free admit game works is total shit.
https://youtu.be/esm8YzFBPOk
Don't tell me you're an even bigger loser than this guy lol.
![gtx-1080-ashes-bench-4k-h[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/iYp2Txj.png "gtx-1080-ashes-bench-4k-h[1].png")
>>337936228
Yep, that's that for the AS domination (in one 'game').
>>337934923
>i believe you made the claim first so prove they gimped
not him but
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7fA_JC_R5s
>>337935825
>Just a reminder that AMD has total control over the gaming market now.
>>337936435
>AMDTV shill
Into the trash it goes.
>>337931561
Would you trust this next gen graphics card in your computer to play your video games?
>>337936360
*DIE HARD NVIDIA FANBOIS*
nice
>>337934778
I'll spoonfeed once since you're amd gpu obviously can't handle the power of google. https://youtu.be/DvCsT_dk-1E
>>337935965
When do 1070 reviews come out?
>>337936435
>20 minute video of guy complaining about GW.
>no actual proof that nvidia deliberately gimped older cards.
>>337935895
>nvidia adds limiters to prevent furmark from killing the card
>WOW NVIDIA IS CHEATING TO MAKE IT SEEMS LIKE THEIR POWER CONSUMPTION IS LOWER THAN WHAT IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE
>nvidia removes said limiters
>WOW NVIDIA HOUSEFIRES
You can never win against drones. Just stop responding to them.
>>337936435
fucking gameworks
>>337931749
AMD have to do it, nvidia is now making CPU which are used in tablets and phones.
>>337936616
d-did you watch the video anon?
because the performance on the older cards went down with the newer drivers?
was that just magic? or are you saying it didn't happen?
>>337936772
Last I checked the cards work fine.
>>337936760
Nvidia tried that years ago and failed.
They can't force any company to use their piss poor ARM CPUs to save their lives. That's why the shield is so cheap.
>>337936616
maybe if you watched the video. the first half complains about gameworks and the second half shows FPS comparisons that indicates that they're gimping older cards. not that you'd know because you couldnt have watched a 20 minute video in the space of 2 minutes.
>mfw I'm not a cuck
>>337936857
Not as fine as they used to anon.....
>>337936913
Just a massive fatass
>>337936865
Here you go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvCsT_dk-1E&feature=youtu.be
Have fun, cupcake!
>>337936657
how the fuck does witcher 3 look worse than witcher 2 and 1?
Fuck CDPR
>>337936760
>i speak gud english
>amd must make x86 professor becuz nvidia is making super powerful arm core mobile system on a corn chip.
>amd simply cannout cumpete with supeerierer nvidia pajeetness
>>337937090
By lowering all the settings to minimum and then shitposting a screenshot
>>337936657
>6660 fps
Get that devil shit outta here.
>>337936981
explain this
>>337936515
Thanks bro.
Now if there is any news about the hacks that were behind the incidents of false advertising (60 FPS batman and 3.5 VRAM) getting fired I'll feel a lot better.
>>337936975
but are you fat enough to beat him up and steal his 980 ti?
>>337937264
I can't.
You won't listen to logic or reason, you just want to believe in your conspiracy theory. It's pointless to try an explain anything to you.
>>337935725
Life just doesn't work out the way it should sometimes
>>337937264
AMD gimping nvidia obviously, fucking cheaters
>>337937397
I can probably walk and move fast enough to take it no problem. I can also get out of a chair without getting stuck or using my arms to lift me out.
>>337936568
No idea. Given that the card itself will come out a couple weeks after the 1080, I guess the timetable for reviews should follow that pattern.
>>337937554
Nah you'd have to be large enough to push him down and take it.
>>337937090
A bigger scale game made for hardware that could barely run the Witcher 2.
>>337937471
so theres just a magic 30% drop? the benchmark in the video i provided is more in depth than just comparing one card from each recent generation.
(for what its worth my current and last card have both been nvidia and theyve both been great, i just wont update to the latest drivers)
>>337937638
Niggas to fat to hold the gpu box dumbass. Besides he'll probably die of a heart attack tomorrow.
>>337935965
Also looking forwards to this. If performance and price work out, the 1070 is set to be a great option for people who don't want to migrate to higher resoultions just yet.
>980
>literally butting heads with the Fury X at stock clock speeds
>mfw an OC'd 980 would stomp an OC'd Fury X because the Fury X can't OC for shit
JUST
U
S
T
>>337937725
No, it's because his well shilled data are from a single beta benchmark from GameGPU.ru
The actual stable version 1.3 shows no such performance degradation. It does show some mild improvements on AMD.
That was coincidentally the patch where they added FLEX (Nvidia only) and HBAO+. It's even possible that Nvidia cards had it on while AMD cards didn't.
It's basically the same situation as with the well memed DOOM Alpha benchmark from the same site.
But mentioning that would not of course slot to his one sided narrative, so he omits that.
I can only recommend you to check the sources and don't take every hack with a youtube channel at his word right away.
Was about to buy an r9 380(Nvidia cuck but the 960 is shit for price-performance) but my friend told me to hold on because next month AMD's mid-tier new cards would be out. So, should I?
AMD is going to win 2017
>PS4k using AMD
>Xbone 2 using AMD
>Nintendo NX using AMD
>Vega10 dominates PC with HBM2
what i would like to know is can the 1080 handle skyrim with 100+ enb mods in vr without melting and catching fire?
>>337938087
Absolutely, even if Polaris isn't all that great is should still bring a nice upgrade at a similar pricepoint to the 380/380x.
>The only place Nvidia beats AMD is in the price range barely anyone can afford
You sure showed them huh.
>>337938087
Wait. Regardless of what AMD puts out, prices will fall soon.
>>337937867
I've been running 1440p for almost a year now and had no real issues yet but some games do push awfully close to the 3GB limit. I've got Shadow of Mordor in my backlog for example.
>>337937985
Holy fuck this
See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDxTcvZ4T2k
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8zo9tYcQn8
It's embarrassing, what the FUCK is wrong with AMD?
>>337938198
>The only place Nvidia beats AMD is in the price range barely any AMDfriend can afford
Fixed that for ya.
>>337937867
>higher resolutions
The 1070 is looking to be capable of 1440p 60 fps easily, and that's with meme AA enabled
>/g/
>>337931591
Why does it have a 980 non ti?
>>337938365
>>337937867
i just don't see the 1070 being a good option at the moment. i'll probably just get the 1080 and call it a day.
>>337938601
Let's just wait for benchmarks.
>>337938319
>>337938365
I hope the 1070 will perform well on 1440, but in two years, it's probably going to perform meh there. If you want 1440 with decent prospects for the future, it's 1080 time.
>>337938601
The question here is, a good option for what? A lower power lower price replacement for the 980ti? That's a good option in my book.
>>337938564
because it would match the 1080 at points. and it would show that this is just a die shrink instead of some dramatic increase in perf/watt
>>337938354
Literal 5th generation re-brand. Furyx is on the same architecture of the 5xxx series. You can only re-brand so many times before you hit a wall.
>>337938564
see
>>337938354
>>337937985
The 980 is UNIRONICALLY Fury X's competitor now. Having a 980ti would have AMDs BEST GPU getting stomped by every Nvidia card and would likely result in Foundry being called bias. Even THEN the 980 is stomping the Fury X in certain games (Tomb Raider/Project Cars) and neck and neck with it in pretty much the rest (outside of Hitman/Singularity).
Literally embarrassing, the 980 is around $200 cheaper and can overclock significantly better
So 1070 is probably going to be the go to for maxed out 1080p then?
Guess i'll just buy one of those this christmas or some shit.
>>337938927
1080p? Fuck no, 1440p is the way.
Or 1080p144Hz.
>>337938998
What about 1080p then? 980ti?
>>337938927
Maxed 1080 at 120/144 fps, yes
1080/60 would be a waste of your dosh
>>337939052
You can run most current titles at 1080/60 high-ultra with a 960
>>337931561
They don't need to make a move. Nvidia gpus always were, are and will be the ones to pick if you go for very high/enthusiast end pc build whiile AMD is low-to-high end focused.. AMD just has to release a $199 card with gtx970-980 performance and a $299 card with gtx980ti-1070 performance and they'll regain marketshare they deserve.
And if you bothered to look Vega with HBM2 is confirmed already for October (Polaris seems to be mobile only).
>>337939196
So is buying a 1070/1080 only for people really invested in higher resolutions/VR?
Guess i'll stay away from upgrading for a few more years.
980bro here, will my GPU last me another generation of cards before I need to upgrade? I only game at 1080p and as long as I hit 60fps maxed out then i'll be fine. Unoptimised games need not apply.
>>337939257
Polaris 11 is mobile-oriented and Polaris 10 is for desktops.
>>337939309
The 1070 is a good option for people who want to play 1080p and be set for the next years. The 960 is at its limit, the 970 will be soon.
The 1080 is for people who want VR or higher res.
>>337931591
>drops to 82fps in Division
>drops to 60fps in some RTS game
kinda disappointing didn't Nvidia market this as like 3-5x more powerful than 9xx series?
>>337939321
How about you just keep using your GPU and wait until you no longer get a satisfying experience to upgrade?
>>337938121
Nintendo NX uses one of Nvidia's mobile SoCs. Less powerful than a PS4.
>>337938837
>Furyx is on the same architecture of the 5xxx series.
No.
>>337939393
Yes, in VR.
>>337939321
even a 970 is enough for 1080p@60
>>337939528
>Gcn is no longer gcn
Fucking moron.
>>337939678
GCN was introduced in very late 2011 with the 7950 and 7970.
Moron.
>>337936437
Guess what's inside all those consoles every AAA shitter studio keeps making games for?And 30% of PCs
>>337939321
You're beyond fine as long as AMD keeps shitting the bed and with those "next gen" consoles around. Worst comes to worst in 2~ years when your GPU starts showing its age, throw a basic OC on it and turn it into a 980ti, maxwell cards overclock like a MOTHERFUCKER.
970 would even last you fine for 1080p gaming. You can most likely skip this generation of Nvidia cards entirely, maybe even the next one with your 980 unless you want to game at 1440p.
>>337938927
Getting a 1070 for 1080p is retarded, the 1070 is likely going to match the 980ti which is a clear 1440p/4k card. You're better off getting a 980 for 1080p gaming, maybe a 390/390x if you want a cheaper yet inferior GPU tot he 980.
>>337939257
>AMD just has to release a $199 card with gtx970-980 performance and a $299 card with gtx980ti-1070 performance and they'll regain marketshare they deserve.
lel, what? Their $300-500 GPUs don't have 980/980ti performance.
980 > 390/390x
980ti > Fury/Fury X
Shit, the Fury/Fury X arguably has less overall power than the 980, let alone the 980ti (see: >>337938354 & >>337937985) due to their pathetic OC capabilitiy.
Their only worthwhile GPU right now is their 390 due to it being objectively better than the 970 AND being able to OC well.
>>337935965
Similar situation but with 2x770's sli'd. Everyone swore up and down I'd only need 2GB vram for 1080p gaming, I shouldn't have listened.
Hopefully the 1070 is a big enough upgrade, it isn't a huge commitment financially so I won't feel obligated to not upgrade if something really exciting comes out.
>>337939446
Stop perpetuating rumors. The cunt who leaked that has been wrong more times than right, and her paper mario 'leak' was practically a cold read anyone could have guessed.
Sweet, now if only there were any games worth upgrading for.
>>337936218
>high end gpu
>fucking garbage single fan exhaust thats been garbage for the last 20 years
Why do they do this shit. Anyone who does not buy their own cooling is retarded
>>337939990
Guess i'll wait for the next generation of cards to come out and buy a 980ti for 1080p when the inevitable price drop comes around.
>>337940132Vanquish on PC @120 FPS
>>337939446
NX is going with AMD retard, Nintendo has been using them since the Gamecube era. Mainly for backwards compatability reasons.
>>337940245
Vanquish? As in, the Platinum game?
Why would you buy such an expensive card if it can't even get a playable framerate in Bioshock?
>>337939983
Doesn't mean anything for nvidia. It just makes it that much more insulting when consoles can run DOOM better than your R3 390
>>337934402
You know, that dank meme needs the names and colors swapping around
the last 6 years has been AMD that run at 90c idle and Nvidia with no drivers.
>>337940310
Yes.
http://www.tssznews.com/2015/10/06/sega-sonic-lost-world-pc-latest-in-string-of-high-quality-pc-ports-of-past-sega-titles/
I want to believe
>>337940336
Wew
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127874
What the fuck are you waiting for /v/? JUST buy this fucking graphics card already so you can max out any games you want.
>>337940673
>JUST
Yeah, that's what I say when I look at the 390s too.
>>337940673
You can't max out literally every game with the 390 at 1080p and get 60 fps. I should know, I have one. It's a great card nonetheless.
>>337940380
Oh you.
>>337940336
>8K
>>337938883
>$200 cheaper
uhh what? they're both 650ish on newegg
>>337940336
eyes can't see past 1600x1050 anyway
>>337940673
>AMD card
>Anything but Sapphire
JUST indeed.
>>337940673
>buying a card just before other cards hit the market
>buying a card that will be outclassed by another card at the same price and lower power consumption
>>337940850
>>337940850
bullshit
i get retardeedd high fps, paired it with an fx 8350 and i'm blown away at how amazing this thing performs.
>>337940912
980, not 980ti
>>337940976
What games do you play?
>MFW there are retards posting on this thread that will buy a GTX 1080 at release instead of waiting for the Ti version in some months
>>337933391
By releasing a card that also has a ~7fps increase or higher compared to the previous gen flagship. It ain't that hard.
>>337933882
>Yeah just like the FuryX with it's STATE OF THE ART POWERFUL HBM beat the 980ti, right?
It did for some games, it didn't for others. Par for the course with high end cards.
so, i'm still on a 7870. should I upgrade now? or wait for that HBM2 meme? though I don't really believe that better ram will make a huge improvement in performance
>>337941046
oh sorry, still > $550 tho so it's more like $100ish
shit value tho for the R9 fury
>>337941706
What's your budget?
Wait you people going to buy this "already set up to be gimped" space heater that somehow still runs DX12 games worse than much older AMD Cards? Fucking seriously?
Polaris will hit this summer, Zen this fall along with Vega this fall or winter. You're all just throwing money away on a polished turd to play older games slightly faster! The new and old games will run better on AMD.
>>337941834
i'm willing to drop $700 on a card if it'll last me 5 years
> wait fags tell me to wait for die shrink
> now want me to wait for hbm a
> tfw I fell for the waitfag meme
Just tell me best card to play at 1080 to 1440 resolution
>>337942107
no card will last you 5 years
>>337941706
I'm in the same exact boat as you at the moment with the very same card.
I think I'm just gonna bite one and get a 290X or a 390. All these new cards with all the "new" technology that will never be used in games will never justify the price.
But it is time for an upgrade lad, I could barely run DooM.
>>337938354
>It's embarrassing, what the FUCK is wrong with AMD?
Judging by the pic you posted, nothing bad i guess?
Fury beating 980, 390 beating 970, 380 beating 960. Just as it has been for several months now.
>>337942040
>making your point with DX12
DX12 will wither and die just like DX10. Vulkan is already seeing support from Bethesda and Square Enix.
>>337931968
Too bad snap oversteer: the game is an awful sim.
>>337942107
If you're patient enough I'd suggest waiting for AMD's Vega series at the end of the year and choose the best of either side.
If not, just go for the 1080, it's a damn fine card as benchmarks suggest.
>>337941706
Wait until all benchmarks are out, and the prices have readjusted.
>>337942107
It won't, no matter which. So get a $350 card and do so again in three years, same cost, more spread, better results.
>>337931561
I have an R9 270x.
If AMD doesn't come out swinging, I'm jumping to team green. My FX-8350 will just have to cope.
>>337942107
like that other anon said, Moore's law learn it love it
>>337942316
Not the guy you're replying to but I honestly hope you're right. Vulkan is much healthier for this industry than DX12.
>>337941706
>so, i'm still on a 7870. should I upgrade now?
If you lived with that card this long you can wait until October for the holiday games and all the new cards from both brands to be out.
>>337931561
I game on 1080p and will continue doing so for many, many years. The jump from 1080p to 4K is nowhere NEAR enough to justify the costs.
>>337942434
we all def want amd to keep swinging even if they aren't the best around, because if they go belly up it's gonna get too monopoly for nvidia and that spells higher prices lesser bang for buck
>>337942458
Vulkan is multiplat, and that includes phones. Guess what has been haunting the market for the past few years.
Vulkan will end up dominating the market unless microsoft throws in their weight with dx12.
>>337942561
Join the 1440p sweet spot my friend.
>>337942660
I agree completely.
>>337942143
christ why does the price vary so much for the same chip
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487068
>>337942561
that's my current mode too, i'm on track for eye-ing a new deal in about 3-4 years.
by that time given how things are dropping i expect smell-o-vision with my cards so that next time I see someone blaze it on my screen i can at least enjoy the kush aromatically
>>337939538
bummer, was considering upgrading from 970 but doesn't seem value for money right now at least
112 in witcher 3 is nice but drops to 82 in division really screams this card will not outlast this console generation
>>337942561
downscale from 1440p
it's a world of difference
>>337943904
What do you call "not outlasting"? Because offering a higher resolution/graphical fidelity/framerate than consoles sounds like outlasting them to me.
>>337940336
That's a big resolution.
>>337944264
I expect to run any console game at 1080p/60fps at an absolute minimum on the highest settings.
If we're already talking 80fps and these cards aren't out yet and this generation has only just started... that really doesn't bode well.
I had high expectations with the marketing, didn't realise it was VR specific. I'm disappointed, means waiting another generation probably.
>>337944452
Shut the heck up.
>>337941461
It's not just 7 fps, it's 25% increase in perfomance at 4k for a card that costs less. That's pretty impressive so far for the most of the benchmarks I've seen
>>337938198
Why is it that Nvidia own 75% of the PC gaming market then?
>>337931561
>nvidia
>amd
How about none of those options. I'd rather keep playing on my toaster then start a housefire.
>>337936959
Install the old drivers and check for yourself. Most of the benchmarks will run either better or about the same. I've done this shit myself. Yes, they do not optimize for old cards, but they do not gimp it either, you were fucking outmemed you gullible bastard
>>337937264
>explain this
Only ruskies got a chart like this, every other benchmark I've seen for the 1.3 patch of F4 showed improved framerates for both Nvidia and AMD. More for AMD, less for Nvidia, none gimped.
>>337944617
People don't know better. They go for Nvidia because it just works.
>>337944668
>all these nerds salivating at the 1080
>still rocking a voodoo2
KEK
