>That guy on your friendslist who ALWAYS complains videogames are too easy
>check his cheevos/trophies
>he's always on normal/novice and never plays on harder diffuculty setting
>ask him what the fuck
>he says harder modes are just "artificial difficulty"
ISHYGDDT
turning enemies into damage sponges != difficulty
>>337925641
>cheevos
Normal Mode is what the game is designed around. Higher difficulties just up the health of enemies, in most cases.
KH2.5's Critical mode is the perfect example of how to do it well, with KH2's Proud mode being the perfect example of a shit hard mode.
>>337925641
He does have a point though. Many lazy devs just multiply health bars by ten and call it "hard mode".
>>337925641
I don't think that ever happened.
>having friends
>>337925641
>cheevos
He is correct when it comes to most games.
Turning enemies into bullet sponges is cheap.
There is very few instances in games (I can't actually think of any off my head) that actually makes the AI more intelligent depending on the difficulty.
It's always the case of giving you less health and giving the enemies more health.
>>337925641
>cheevos
>>337926045
>Playing fallout 3 on the hardest difficulty
>You have to shoot normal raider guy fifty times to the head with pistol before he maybe dies
One of the few games where i didnt finish it on the hardest difficulty desu
>>337926239
>There is very few instances in games (I can't actually think of any off my head)
The older rainbow six for sure
>>337925641
>That guy who hacks games for achievements and says it's the developers' fault for letting him do it
Fucker still brags about "beating" FTL even though he made himself the invincible
He's not entirely wrong about that.
Most games simply add or remove something when choosing harder difficulties. More enemy HP, more damage received, less consumables, your attacks are less powerful, etc.
So yes, the game is harder but it is in a half-assed way that only makes playing the game that way more of a drag than anything.
>>337925641
>Finishing a game in 3 hours is boring.
>Finishing a game in 6 hours is somehow less boring
explain your logic sir.
>>337925641
>harder difficulty
>enemies just have more health
>>337925641
>ISHYGDDT
What?
>>337925838
>>337926018
>>337926045
>>337926239
>>337926347
>>337927234
>>337927379
>>337927407
Casuals spotted, go back to Dark Souls little babies, you can kill everything in one hit and feel good about it online.
>>337927515
shig dig
Wait...so there are idiots that play games on normal mode and complain that games are easy and casual as shit, but don't bother to try out the higher difficulty settings?
>normal mode is the mode the game was designed around
lol
Makes me sad I want trump to win just for the collosal butthurt. The people who don't want him to win don't deserve it. Fucking passive non involved shitheada until the media tells them what to do. Eat shit.
>>337927515
Shiggity McDiggity
>>337927548
>Dark Souls
Thanks, but no thanks.
>>337927515
It meanslurk more you fucking faggot.
>>337925641
>ISHYGDDT
You know this is the first time I've seen this in a very long time instead of just the shiggy diggy variants or just the costanza image
>Costanza.jpg is 5 years old
>All these people acting as if enemies having more health+damage is just artificial difficulty
>Not realizing lots of games meant for a large audience have a ridiculously easy default difficulty where they make enemies squishy as fuck and do no damage to you to pander to casuals
>Setting the difficulty higher makes the game as hard as it should have been
I bet most of you fags are just insecure about your inability to deal with harder difficulties.
>>337927548
hi leddit
>>337927515
>2011 was 20 years ago
>I think hotline miami 2 is a huge step up from the first one
>wtf no way dude what about all that artificial difficulty
>they never can quite elaborate on what they mean
Literally "I can't get gud: the complaint" and I disregard the opinions of anyone who uses it.
>>337927926
>too casual even for dark souls
Top cuck
>>337928567
i love the higher hp makes the game harder and not challenging but fair mechanics meme.
>>337927961
>>337927961
>talking in acronyms like a idk omg retard
>calling someone else a faggot
Okay, buddy.
>>337929260
>So insecure that you not only have to respond with "memes" but you also completely botch what you're saying into something incomprehensible.
>>337929042
ur rite tho
>>337929486
>literally memeing whilst being unable to read
>>337929343
>being this new
>>337929597
Not him, but the only way your post makes sense is if you're saying "Higher HP makes the game harder", which is obviously true 99% of the time and then stating "Challenging but fair mechanics" as a second statement, which wasn't even mentioned. But then afterwards you use "Meme" rather than "Memes" which means that you're saying only one thing, not two.
>>337926639
but he is right anon
the developers shouldn't let him get those achievements after cheating so blatantly
>achievements matter
HNNNGGGGG
What's with you bitchbois playing games where they turn into bullet sponges?
I'm playing Uncharted Drake's Fortune Remastered on Brutal Difficulty and I die in one or two hits instantly.
It's not a challenge for a master chef to create pancakes.
Making them make pancakes while standing on one foot is harder, but it's the dumb kind of hard. Artificial difficulty.
Having them make a more complex recipe is good kind of difficulty.
>>337930093
>higher hp makes the game harder and not challenging but fair mechanics
are u retarded dude?
>>337930330
FOOD ANALOGIES
ALWAYS ON /v/
>>337930406
But has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
>>337927407
I want to FUCK that frog.
>>337930581
You are truly a fucking tard
>>337928567
this post says higher hp makes the game hard
>>337929260
this post says higher hp being hard is a meme. If you actually read both posts this is obvious.
>>337930330
to make a plain simple pancake?
no, it is not "a challenge"
Making a good pancake maybe with a unique recipe, then yes that is a challenge.
If that chef makes a hamburger, it is not necessarily a challenge, even if he is standing on one foot or did 20 push-ups earlier
But if the chef writes a 3 page report on how to crack an egg, then it's the dumb kind of hard. Artificial difficulty
>>337930330
>>337930857
>food analogy
>no Sandwich Artist™
one job, guys
>>337929960
>Spouting five year old memes in 2016
>Being this much of a faggot
>>337930949
how old are you
>>337925641
artificial difficulty is real
when will AI development advance?
>>337929960
4chan isn't some exclusive fucking club that you have to spend years here to understand. You can goggle ISHYGDDT and it'll tell you what it means, when it started, and how it propagated. Being new literally doesn't fucking matter anymore. Stop acting like we're some clubhouse that you have to spend tons time here to understand.
>>337926459
Christ. Tangos turned into the fucking navy seals.
>>337927639
if the game wasn't designed around normal mode, why do they call it normal mode?
>>337931080
27, memes aren't funny, grow up.
>>337930787
But higher enemy HP does make a lot of games harder?
You have to fight longer while only allowed to make the same amount of mistakes.
Fighting drains more resources such as items or ammo so you have to be more careful about using them.
Suicide/risky strats are significantly less likely to work.
The player has to actually prevent damage in some way or prevent it more than usual since the enemy can kill the player before the player can kill them.
The player might have to build their character in a way that increases survivability rather than going full out damage.
Now whether higher HP makes the game harder in a good or bad way depends on the game, but it definitely makes things harder a huge majority of the time.
>>337927515
I Shiggeru Miyamoto.
>>337931425
Shenmue twoamoto
![outsmart-your-enemies-large_zpst3plz5wf[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/50ZOS2B.gif "outsmart-your-enemies-large_zpst3plz5wf[1].gif")
>>337931169
For video games? Probably never.
What advantages is in there in making enemies have a better AI? Your players need to be able to defeat them and feel good about themselves and not feel like they're playing a competitive game for the first time against the previous champions.
>>337929960
>skyrim reference in DOOM
>MEME GAME MEME GAME MEME GAME
>costanza.jpg
>memes are fine when I do it!
>>337931313
Imagine if dark souls the only way to heal was using bonfires and enemys had 10x health? Is dark souls harder? yes doesn't make for a good hard game, it makes a poor selling game.
>>337931640
Well I'm glad we could agree that enemies having higher HP makes the game harder. I'm not sure why you're talking about it selling worse but alright.
>>337930949
>>337931195
>>337931309
>>337931621
>being this assblasted he didn't know about old memes before checking knowyourmeme
>they're not even that old
jesus fuck just stop posting already and lurk more you immense fag lord
To be fair, most harder difficulties just up the enemy damage and/or health. No point doing tedious shit when you can pick a difficulty that you're best suited for.
>>337931732
Being a hard game by having high hp doesn't make it hard, it tedious and bland way of making a poor easy game "difficult", which is why I said "but not challenging, but fair mechanics".
>>337931834
>memes are okay when I say so!
k
>>337932051
Wait you just said it was harder and now you're saying it's not harder? You're making no sense anon.
>>337925641
It really depends on the game. In some games, the higher difficulty modes are faster paced, the AI is smarter, or the damage taken/given isn't crazy bad.
In games like bethesda games, though, it's basically just
>damage you do goes down
>damage they do goes up
until it gets unfun and everything is a bullet sponge at endgame. Vanilla Skyrim, for example, isn't really that much harder between easy and legendary if you're decent at moving and have enough MP/arrows to do whatever you need.
>>337932197
anon they're saying upping the damage done/lowering damage taken makes the game harder in a bland and unfun way. You can't say that tripling the amount of time/resources you put into every enemy doesn't make the game at least a little more difficult.
Pretty accurate. Hard in most games mostly just means more tedious/use broken build X so you don't have to spend 5 minutes beating down every enemies bloated hp pool. If the developers actually bothered to add some interesting twists to the other difficulties then I'll give it a go if I like the game, but hardly any do that.
>>337932197
Not that anon but there's a difference between a good difficulty setting and a bad difficulty setting. What that anon is saying is that just increasing enemy hp to make a game hard is bad difficulty design.
>>337929042
>b-but muh windows
>you need to press shift, too hard
>too many guns, why can't I run with a katana through the whole level
>>337929042
The games play differently for sure.
Hotline Miami is about reflexes and finesse whereas Hotline Miami 2 relies a lot more on memorization and exploiting level designs.
I enjoyed both games but I understand why people think HLM is the better game
>>337926639
I know that guy
He does this in multiplayer games and gets surprised when he gets banned.
Fucker spent hundreds of dollars on League of Legends then lost his account
