HOW DO YOU GO FROM THIS
TO THIS?
To what?
TO THIS
TO THIS
>>337914823
This is actually keeping it closer to original non-shit lore
Why the fuck did they decide to turn these purple fucks into slutty ayylmaos instead of strange husks they were in W3 is beyond me.
Generally I wish WoW would never happen, fuck that cancer that killed MMO genre.
to this
>>337914823
>>337914918
I don't want """LORE ACCURATE""", I want horse cock sluts.
WoW has literally always been waifubait shit
>>337915078
>>337915078
>>337915078
When will this fucking meme end?
Draenei is literally a word for exiled Eredar, and the Broken are Eredar who lost the light. Humans came from monkeys but there's still fucking monkeys you double nigger. You can have Broken and normal Draenei. There are fucking Broken in WoW.
>>337915035
If there is one thing that SJW cancer killing the media did well is making waifucancer like yourself buttmad.
You are the reason why WoW is fucking shit.
>>337915323
>backpedaling retconned lore since 2004
>>337915323
And then there's the Lost Ones, which are at least in WoW depicted as looking like Akama in WC3 (>>337915078)
>>337915471
this senpaitachi nu-Draenei are for cucks.
>>337915078
sure has, Anon.
>>337915323
>Humans came from monkeys but there's still fucking monkeys you double nigger
Humans don't come from monkeys. Both evolved from a common ancestor.
>>337914823
That's an old Draenai
>>337915078
I still don't understand the mouth area
Is its mouth open and those are its teeth
Or is it a mustache and goatee?
I'm so confused
>>337915323
>Draenei is literally a word for exiled Eredar
WoW lore
>and the Broken are Eredar who lost the light
WoW lore
>Humans came from monkeys but there's still fucking monkeys you double nigger. You can have Broken and normal Draenei. There are fucking Broken in WoW.
More shitty WoW lore.
I know all that faggot, all of that is a fucking shitty retcon created in WoW though, just like majority of WoW in general.
I also love how most of the complete irrepearable devastation and destruction that was done to humanity and it's greatest cities in Frozen Throne is also just retconned away.
The worst part about retcons is not fictional world not following some arbitrary continuity though, that never is the worst part. The worst part is when retcons make world and it's events less interesting to cater to certain demographics, limited game mechanics or just because of writer is a dickhead.
>>337914918
>wishing current female draenei never happened
Fuck off senpai
>>337915323
Well the difference was that the broken/lost ones were supposed to be what all of the draenei were and they were just another race native to draenor but that was retconned.
Etiher way it wasn't a huge retconn since basically nothing was removed, just additional background added to the draenei. Anyone who gets that upset by the change is just autistic.
>>337915793
>Humans came from monkeys but there's still fucking monkeys
That's not WoW lore m8.
>>337915881
>waifucucks
>>337915881
I have nothing against current female Draenei, I wish they were not Draenei though, there is no reason for them to be tied in any way shape or form to W3 lore.
Why not introduce fucking new race?
>>337915571
Ummm. Let's see how the female trolls look now?
>>337915506
I think you mean "cocks".
Female draenei and horsecocks are practically inseparable and I wouldn't have it any other way.
>>337915793
>this fucking logic
>nothing after my favorite thing counts
Not everything can be a weeby waifu fap factory?
I'm sorry the 3DPD world upsets you so much Anon-Kun.
>>337914770
>>337914823
with about 35 years.
>>337915967
Because why not
>>337914850
Glad Kermit broke it off with Ms. Piggy. Don't go back my green nigga, don't do it!
Why everyone draws cocks on them?
TO THIS
>>337916167
So they are perfect.
>>337914770
>>337914823
>>337915035
>I can't enjoy something unless it makes me horny
>>337914823
>>337916120
Come to think of it she looks a lot more Eredar than WoW Draenei.
female tauren are where its at
>>337915967
Because Metzen forgot about Draenei and when he got told he basically said "it is better this way :^)"
>totally up-front with you guys, it’s my bad, straight up. The obvious lore contradiction with Sargeras and his encounter with the eredar was clearly documented in the Warcraft III manual. I wrote those bits about four years ago, and to be totally honest, I simply forgot
>>337916053
>make game series with great story
>immersive lore everyone loves
>imperfect heroes, interesting villains
>third installment is an instant classic
>expansion is even better
>make money grubbing MMO
>literally nothing that happened in the RTS games matters
They did the same thing with Starcraft. I didn't even buy Diablo 3. Fuck Blizzard.
>>337916302
>Its a "wow thread gets derailed by panda posting and mods do nothing" episode.
>>337916053
>nothing after my favorite thing counts
No, it's literally about lore being interesting and lore being fucking dumbed down and boring for the sake of casuals/limited game mechanics.
Case in point, Alduin in Elder Scrolls lore is aspect of Aka, a 4 dimensional stomach of Satakal that literally consumes the world and re-created Kalpa and has done many times before despite the efforts of faggots such as Lepper Demon King and Ruddy Man. Alduin was literally planetary sized Dragon God of Time chunk of a bigger God of Time.
Meanwhile in Skyrim...
>>337916292
>You will never be spit-roasted one the eredar twin's enormous equine members.
I mean, really, is this life worth living?
>>337915881
>>337916053
>>337916120
How can you excuse shit like this?
>>337916323
Do you understand that metzen is a literal cuck that doesn't know what he is writing.
>>337914770
>isolating the sfw version so you can call it yours and slap your shitty watermark on it
2007 internet was gay
http://azazel1944.deviantart.com/art/Draenei-paladin-59920342
>>337914918
BC was a gigantic lore clusterfuck and Metzen forgot his own lore and made shit up last minute.
Thats how we got the Sargeras/Eredar/Draenei retcon in BC.
Also Alliance can't have an ugly race so that made it even more important to retcon Draenei, who aren't even fucking native to Draenor, into the blue space goats from Argus instead of the fucking hideous but peaceful natives of Draenor who are nearly extinct due to fel orcs like Akama and others.
>>337916323
I also love how a lot of lore retcons are obviously just that, Metzen being a retard, and people try to pretend that there is more to it than him being retarded/it was intended that way.
Why do horns make it hotter, anons?
>>337916656
I know why it happened.
I just can't believe that there are faggots like this
>>337916053
Who do not understand how shit Metzen is at his own lore.
>>337916357
>literally nothing that happened in the RTS games matters
Same could be said about the previous Warcraft titles before 3.
>>337915967
Why does it bother people that they took an almost irrelevant race of creatures from WC3 and actually decided to give them a background?
I mean that's actually one of the few decent changes wow made because it changed absolutely nothing important.
Much bigger changes were putting the night elves into the alliance when they were absolutely a neutral third faction, and putting undead into the Horde when they too would have almost no reason to want to be part of that since Sylvanas pretty much seemed to hate the living.
If anything WoW shit on night elves the most out of any race.
>letting other races have druids
>>337915323
>Draenei is literally a word for exiled Eredar
Yes after the damn retcon you moron.
>People like X
>X is changed to Y
>"We don't like that X is changed to Y"
>"what is this meme? X is changed to Y, why don't you get it and love it like I do?"
>>337916727
Because they're phalic objects and you probably are gay
>>337916870
>warcraft 3 retcon warcraft 2 lore
????
>>337916727
They remind you of cocks cuckanon
>>337915035
I can fap to this.
Been through worse.
>>337916870
>Same could be said about the previous Warcraft titles
except that they're referenced in War3 multiple times?
>>337916907
This is just one of the complaints, read the thread.
Metzen is a hack.
Hell the amount of retcons it was necessary to bring Alliance to the state it was at the start of WoW from the shithole most of the world was at end of W3 is huge.
>>337914770
POST MORE DRAENEI SLUTS
>Illidan nearly shatters Icecrown Glacier, destroying the Lich King without setting foot on Northred
>Bitchboy Malfurion stops him because muh planet hurts
>Planet gets FUCKED by Deathwing later anyway
When the fuck are Malf and Tyrande going to pay for their fuckery
Both Maeiv and Illidan have suffered enough from those two
>>337916907
>Why does it bother people that they took an almost irrelevant race of creatures from WC3 and actually decided to give them a background?
Because they weren't irrelevant and they had a background.
Instead they changed it so they were related to another race that was also relevant and already had a distinct background.
A background they changed resulting in one of the biggest retcons possible in the series.
Why the big bad is evil.
>Much bigger changes were putting the night elves into the alliance when they were absolutely a neutral third faction, and putting undead into the Horde when they too would have almost no reason to want to be part of that since Sylvanas pretty much seemed to hate the living.
That's progression rather than retconning the past.
That's a big difference and since you didn't notice it you're probably to dumb to understand why.
>>337917139
>>337916986
>Warcraft 1 and 2 is just humans vs green men
>War 3 brings in night elves and undead
>complicates the lore even more so as it was simple being orcs vs humans
Fucking warcraft 3 babbies.
>>337917414
Warcraft 2 is a pretty good game.
Still holds up and you should play it. Scrolling is a little annoying if you go with an old version and play on dosbox though.
>>337914823
Have there been any trailers that show Draenei in them? That pic look pretty cool.
>>337915078
>>337914918
>>337915967
>>337917394
Nobody wants to play an ugly race
Maybe you do as a fat pimple ridden NEET so you can feel some sort of connection to your character but most people don't
I just realized something.
Where the FUCK where the Naaru during the entirety of Wrath?
Couldn't we have just instantly slapped infinite amounts of undead shit with a single one of them?
>>337917513
What does your response have to to with any of that? I bet you're a warcraft 3 babby. Fuck off. War 3 ruined warcraft.
>>337917704
Who knows, the Naaru are strange and usually like to be aloft. There is a quest in Ice crown where you get a Naaru to try and help save a dying crusader in Icecrown.
>>337917704
Oh for fuck's sake.
>>337917704
kek I never even thought of this.
What the fuck has Velen been doing as well?
>>337917394
You're fucking retarded mate the draenei in WC3 were fucking nobodies.
>the alliance is progression
Jesus fucking christ no. The alliance was something that they completely pulled out of their ass along with the undead joining the horde.
I swear draenei retconn faggots are CWC-tier autists.
>yeah the draenei were a retconn but who cares because they were meaningless and they made tons of even stupider changes
>"DRAENEI ARE NOT BLUE"
>>337917414
>there were no undead in War1/2
>there were no elves in War1/2
>Orcs didn't use demonic items and magic that could corrupt them outside of their control
>night elves on an entirely different continent
>implying anything got retconned away
It got expanded upon, not retconned. There's a huge difference.
>>337917704
there was a naaru in one of the icecrown questlines, i think it ressed some dude or blessed him
>>337915323
I can't believe you've missed the point so complete.
>>337917414
I don't see how there is problem with humans vs orcs in Warcraft 2 when you only fought on eastern kingdoms and outland. And Warcraft 2 had gnoms trolls high elves dwarfs and shit.
>>337917939
The Alliance was a thing since like always, you mong.
>>337916727
No, but hooves do
t. Horsefucker
>>337917849
>>337917912
Blizz made them too powerful so they don't use them. In WoD Shadowmoon, one Naaru single handedly fucks the attacking Iron Horde fleet, but does it show up to help in Hellfire Citadel? Nope.
Same reason why Velen stays in the Exodar doing nothing all the time, they can't use him because he would wreck shit.
The BC Sargeras retcon was pretty hideous but not as bad as what they did to Vashj, Kael, and fucking Illidan.
I still have no clue what Vashj was doing. Something about kidnapping all the water in Zangarmarsh and then profit or some shit I guess.
>>337917939
>I swear draenei retconn faggots are CWC-tier autists.
This. I don't know why it triggers them they made draenei and broken separate. It doesn't change the lore if you think about it at all, just changes they way they look. Considering the broken and draenei still have the same lore in the sense they fled argus to escape the burning legion.
>>337916727
Handlebars
>>337917939
Ignore that faggot
Alliance is a joke
"Forsaken" in WoW are a joke
Everything is a shitty retconn
Metzen is a hack
WoW killed MMO genre and we will never get anything like Ultima Online ever again
>>337917697
>Nobody wants to play an ugly race
Kill yourself, waifufag.
>>337917973
Same could be said about WoW.
>So uh...here are the real Draenei. Those guys in WarIII are still Draenei just ones who have been corrupted by demonic magics
>WOOOOW RET CONN REEEE FUCK BLIZZARD!
>>337918127
Illidan is the worst offender
especially when he CLEARLY got killed
>>337918226
Are you going to be defending Elder Scrolls Online lore changes next?
>>337917939
Horde had undead since WC1 you underage little shit.
http://wow.gamepedia.com/Necrolyte_%28Warcraft_I%29
>>337918226
its more like
>le this guys are uncorrupted eredar because everything is either corrupted or uncorrupted
quality metzen writting literally a forced race for muh corrupted plot.
>draenei live right next to night elves
>some humans are now living in darnassus
>constant travel between stormwind and ironforge
>races have been living with each other for years now
>still no half human/elf/dwarf/draenei kids
I will never understand why there aren't half breed bastards running around all the racial cities.
Nobody can tell me a human will look at a draenei woman and not want to fuck her right then and there.
Remember when an April fools joke became a major part of WoW lore?
Is there somewhere where i can read all the lore? Pre and post recon
>>337918073
Not when all of the humans in the eastern kingdoms was supposed to be completely fucked in WC3
The remnants of humanity were supposed to be with Jaina.
Night elves were their own faction. Nothing at all indicated that they would join forces with the other races. They seemed more content to just sit around and protect their forests.
>>337918095
>Velen stays in the Exodar
Gonna spoiler this, has to do with Paladin quest line in Legion.Velen had a kid. Kil'jaedin tortured him for the past 13,000 to turn him on Velen. You fight him at the exodar when the burning legion attacks. Velen had a prophet when his son was first born that showed him holding a eredar's body in his hands. You kill Velen's son despite Velen trying to get you to stop it because he mentions he realizes what his vision meant. In somewhat quiet anger he asks if their chief artificer Rommul, their head engineer pretty much, is still alive. He gets told yes and then goes something along the lines "There is no prophet here. Tell Khadgar the light died this day. Send for Rommul to finish repairs on the Exodar, we're going home"
TO THIS?!
>>337914770
Who cares about Draenei, Au Ra is where it's at.
>>337916446
I wanna atleast do it in VR, so theres thatwhile two men spitroast me IRL for full effect
>>337918539
Which one of them?
>>337918572
>all of the humans
Lordaeron and..?
>>337918530
Because they're entirely different races and should therefore not be compatible for breeding
>muh garona
I don't know
>>337918636
>>337918636
>Humans with a few pieces of glued on scaley bits here and there
lol
>>337918653
I think he means the Pandaren, if you ignore that they were in WC3
>>337918460
>raising undead warriors is totally the same as undead humans/elves from Lordaeron who would still hate orcs and trolls and probably anything that's living
>>337918526
How would you have done it anon? Kept them broken? They were a literal who in War 3. I sometimes forget one makes an appearance.
That being said, it still doesn't ret con major lore. They still have the same back story as the other Draenei. It's a literal cosmetic ret con that autist have a meltdown over.
So let me get this straight.
All of WoD was just a halfassed bid to bring back Guldan?
>>337918629
>>337918580
>draenai removed from the alliance
oh fug
>>337918742
And that's different from your goat women how?
>>337918226
>actually the world tree is fine
>also there are four or whatever
>dalaran magically unfucked
>lordaeron magically unfucked
>archimonde isn't dead
>illidan just sits in a tower like a faggot instead of coming back to take revenge, the WHOLE POINT of his character
>Orcs and Undead are cool, as if they haven't been trying to enslave each other forever
Literally NOTHING that happened in War3 as far as character lore, motivations, factions, actual events that happened and were the entire point of the game weren't retconned or absolutely FUCKED beyond recognition.
They inherently changed the history and world that had been building for 3 fucking games. And they can't even keep it straight between expansions. It's a fucking abomination.
>>337918802
>Undead is not the same as undead
>>337918221
Troll loser detected
WE SO COOL MON xD
>>337918767
The pandaren weren't an aprils fool joke tho
>>337918825
I reckon WoD was originally supposed to be a tie-in expansion to the movie but the schedules got fucked so they put no effort into it.
>>337918820
>Kept them broken?
Yes and give alliance furbolgs/high elves makes more sense than space elves.
>>337918893
>implying I'm a WoWcuck
Thanks for the (You).
>>337914823
Bowie's son is a disgrace
>>337918530
Because they can not fucking breed most of the time, this is also true for a lot of fucking settings.
It's like asking why there are no half Khajiit half Orsimer, because of how racial phylogeny works in a stabilized Ada world of TES where genetics do not actually exists and it's about stabilization of forms with all sorts of different pacts and contracts of ye old like Green Pact of Bosmer, Lunar Latice of Khajiit, Mer/Men being generally bound to Mundus etc.
If it's fantasy why do you think that genetics has to exist? More importantly why should completely different races breed if genetics DO exist?
>>337918829
What
>>337918572
They did get fucked but not completely. The invasion died with Archimonde and after the Lich King's powers started to wane so did his control of the Scourge, so the surviving human kingdoms in the south managed to regroup. The north got royally fucked by Arthas & Co, Sylvanas and her goons and all the random dreadlords vying for control.
The invasion got stopped before the entire continent was overrun and judging by Garithos' and the Blood Elves' campaigns in the north there seems to be some attempts at recapturing it.
>War 3 has broken
>TBC introduces new lore and expands it, only ret conning their looks.
>Fuck metzan and his writing. Fuck blizzard!! REEEEEEEEEEE
>War 3 had Chen and pandaren
>WoW does Pandaren expansion
>WOOOOW Fuck blizzard reeeee! muh War 3 lore!!!!!!
This is the biggest offence I've ever seen. Bitch about one thing from war 3 they changed because they ret conned the lore.
So Blizzard takes something from war 3 and expands it this time, not ret conning anything and the neckbeards still bitch and moan.
>>337918580
But they wont actually leave since they cant remove a playable race from alliance. People would whine too much.
>>337918629
pls no
>>337915941
It's not real world lore either, because humans didn't fucking come from monkeys.
>>337919037
Welcome to neo-Warcraft
>>337918767
>they
A single unit was in the campaign as an easter egg and was later added as a neutral hireable hero in skirmish maps. There's also a hydralisk easter egg in the campaign but that doesn't make it reasonable to add the Zerg as a playable race in WoW.
>>337918829
Is that Lord Dominator?
>>337917724
>>Warcraft 1 and 2 is just humans vs green men
Clearly you didn't play warcraft 2.
I grew up with it and it's a great game.
You should really give it a chance.
I think you can use control groups in one of the releases even so it's more accessible so when you look it up you may want to keep an eye out for that version.
>>337918956
Sounds shit. Furbolgs would be a shit race to play as. Blood elves aren't space elves either. They are fel corrupted high elves. If anything Orcs are from space more so than elves. :^)
>>337919071
>So Blizzard takes something from war 3 and expands it this time
>this time
>literally 8 years after vanilla comes out
What the literal fuck is wrong with you? Can you not see how they burned their bridges with anyone who gives a shit about lore over a decade ago?
How do I get this chest?
>>337918095
Naaru are super powerful sure. But there is that tiny iddy bitty little weakness where they can have the light drained out of them to become void gods.
Soooooo yknow theres likely a good reason they don't engage demons and armies straight up too often.
>>337918629
Thats just a Nathrezim without horns.
>>337918629
>>337918829
Does Blizzard even give a shit anymore?
>>337919203
WC2 had control groups on release
>>337916292
Dang, as a shadow priest, this sure was a fun fight.
>>337918842
>>337919085
it means velen is done playing nice and is about to go Disc priest on kil'jaeden's ass
I haven't kept up with WoW lore for the last couple xpacs. Someone explain to me how and why the FUCK we are time traveling to other timelines? This sounds like the stupidest bullshit.
>>337919071
>statement from Metzen where he basically says he reconnected them because he forgot
>NO THEY EXPANDED IT
Just because you weren't born then doesn't mean it didn't happen
>>337919224
Because they realized if you make something blue from warcraft 3 purple autist like you flip your shit over a color change.
The decisions they made didn't change the impact of WoW consider TBC made more sales and so did WoTLK.
>>337919229
lrn2fly
>>337918629
that hurts to watch
>>337919306
Because reasons that no one really thought was a good idea.
>>337917912
>>337917849
>>337917912
>naaru gets attacked by lich king
>becomes void god
>horde and alliance murdered in droves by their own fucking ally
yeah nah sounds like a great idea
>>337919310
>can't come up with an actual argument
>l-le underaged meme!!
You need to be 18 to post here son.
>>337919306
To build an army to fight the Legion.
>>337919037
>>337919137
>>337919262
Do you have brain problems? It's a Hearthone card, it has nothing to do with WoW lore. No idea what the Holy Dreadlord's deal is though
>>337919325
>if you make something blue from warcraft 3 purple
see >>337918853
There was nearly nothing they didn't fuck up.
>TBC made more sales and so did WoTLK
That's because WoWcucks will buy anything Blizzard shits out.
>>337918728
Well, orcs and draeneis are from the same planet
>>337918829
>Brashly, you have come to wrest the secrets of the Holy Light!
>>337917939
>Jesus fucking christ no.
Now I want you to do your best with using your brain.
Here's a simple timeline.
Sargeras Corruption - Warcraft 3 - WoW - TBC
When the night elves joined up with the humans and their rabble we're between Wc3 and WoW.
The story of the games progressed and it happened after everything else had happened.
That is why the alliance is progression.
It is different from the draenei change, since we would be between WoW and Tbc in terms of story, but they go back and change stuff that happened even before wc3.
As we've already established you're a dumb person so it is understandable that you misunderstand.
>>337919306
Don't worry about it. WoD was a mistake and the AU is pretty much non canon. Only thing you need to know is the the original timeline Maarad died and that the legion, as wrathion predicted in MoP, is invading azeroth.
>>337919040
Stormwind wasn't a thing though. It was pretty much completely destroyed in WC2 by deathwing and gorefiend when they were trying to rebuild it.
They retconned this though, which is the point I was making.
>>337915793
>WoW lore
>acting like this is not, in fact, canon Warcraft lore and thus the objective truth, no matter how much you want to deny it while scratching your neckbeard.
>>337917912
Like with the cataclysm, a silly undead invasion was too irrelevant to bother, just send some paladins, the exercise might toughen them up.
>>337919306
The Horde and the Alliance must band together to fight the Burning Legion and to help them put their differences aside some timelord dragon assisted Garrosh in traveling back in time/to an alternative dimension to create a common enemy for the forces of Azeroth to unite against
>>337919297
So he either dies or he gets corrupted and becomes a raid boss instead of doing something actually meaningful. "Woo."
>>337917697
>Maybe you do as a fat pimple ridden NEET
This is the only demographic that cares about how attractive pixels are, pal.
>>337914823
I see nothing wrong with this. Unlike plastic-looking shit here >>337914770.
>>337918829
What's the big deal?
>>337919505
Or maybe it's because the game was actually good as a mmo then. If you're playing a MMO for the story in the first place you're a retard and deserve to be upset your ugly goat men are now actually appealing to the eye.
>>337919631
or it means we go with him and fuck up Kil'Jaeden
>>337918629
>>337919413
Except I gave an actual argument where the source is the writer himself?
>>337918629
If they were gonna retcon Draenei to some interdimensional space-ship race of goat-zealots, why didn't they just jam the Protoss into WoW?
>>337917939
>DRAENEI ARE NOT BLUE
Anyone who says this doesn't know what the fuck they're talking about. They literally had blue Draenei in War3.
>>337919673
No one is saying WoW was a bad MMO, you illiterate child. WoW took a huge shit on Warcraft game lore, which people actually liked.
>If you're playing a MMO for the story in the first place you're a retard
>ignore the shitty, pointless parts of this game I like or you're a retard
WoWcucks, everybody.
>>337919498
Yeah imagine if hearthstone affected WoW lore.
You'd have fucking Anduin show up as a priest instead of a Paladin.
>>337919387
A Void God aint shit. We have taken them out before.
Use Naaru like a tactical nuke to wipe out entire armies of undead and if anything happens the 25 raiders beside him promptly slap his shit back to the light side.
>>337919708
Why would he want to team up with us anymore if we killed his son? The way anon explained, it seems like he and rest of the draenei just fuck off for good, which wont happen, nothing about teaming up with the players to kill leguuns.
>>337919579
WoW started out what, seven years after the events of the Second War? Deathwing and Gorefiend wasn't in the picture then so there's a time window where Stormwind could've been rebuilt. That doesn't answer where the hub of southern human power was at the time but given that they scrapped having Gnomeregan as a player hub due to not wanting faction city imbalance it goes without saying they can't have a dozen human kingdoms and cities all over the place.
Lorewise Dalaran was still there, so was Stromgarde IIRC (might've been in a rough shape though) and that fortress they built in the Blasted Lands close to the portal.
Still, with Arthas' purge of Stratholme and the foiled BL invasion it isn't infeasible that a decent bulk of human power remained in the south.
>>337919864
>WoW took a huge shit on Warcraft game lore
No it didn't
>>337914770
>>337914823
>this whole thread
>because someone is mad that they made Draenei attractive and then unattractive again
I had no idea hardcore Warcraftfags were so autistic.
>>337919992
because velen has seen his own kind and others be corrupted for eons and knows what had to be donenone of what im saying matters because blizzards writers are morons
>>337918853
>actually the world tree is fine
It was fine at the end of War 3? They never said it was dead, it just got a little fucked up. Which even then WoW takes places a good number of years after the events of Warcraft 3.
>also there are four or whatever
Doesn't retcon anything, only expands the lore more.
>dalaran magically unfucked
Again it's been a number of years since War3 and even then you don't see Dalaran till WoTLK which is even further away. They could have very well repaired Dalaran in that time.
>lordaeron magically unfucked
No it's not. It's still fucked up.
>archimonde isn't dead
Demons souls get sent to twisting nether. This has been known in War 3.
>illidan just sits in a tower like a faggot instead of coming back to take revenge, the WHOLE POINT of his character
yeah they dropped the ball on this.
>>Orcs and Undead are cool, as if they haven't been trying to enslave each other forever
Not really. Ever notice when you start as undead you're rep is really low with the other factions? It's more of a "trust you enough to fight with me but not sleep with me" kind of deal. Also Slyvanas takes over in War 3 so it expaneded that.
It sounds as if you're being entitled going "Warcraft 3 was the last warcraft" and you made it your head cannon when blizzard wasn't done with it. So now you throw a hissyfit because your head cannon didn't stop and time kept moving.
>>337919912
>A Void God aint shit. We have taken them out before.
No we havent. Void gods are the new ultimate bad guy that Sargeras tries to defeat with the burning legion. The void gods ingame are just nicknamed that and Blizzard is too lazy to come up with any new names so they just went with that.
>>337920016
see >>337918853
I'm so tired of arguing with you fucking faggots.
>>337920016
>every major lore character inevitably gets "corrupted" and then killed
>>337920058
>""""""""""""""hardcore Warcraftfags""""""""""""""
>>337920085
That doesnt answer my question at all though. Either the anon explained it shittily or I am seriously misunderstanding something here.
>>337917392
never
>>337920092
>Demons souls get sent to twisting nether. This has been known in War 3.
>>337920058
>anonymous internet discussion
>why are you guys so autistic?
>>337918159
vroom vroom!
When will Thrall become a Paladin?
He already has a hammer.
>>337920096
See >>337920092
Try palying the game or doing research before shitposting next time please
>>337920095
We have literally taken out a dark Naaru or void god or whatever Blizz calls it these days.
Its not that big of a deal.
Then again M'uru was a total bitch of a fight
>>337919864
but thats how they looked like in vanilla too, they changed it in bc
>>337920169
its fucking ambiguous and nobody knows what it means
maybe it'll make more sense in context or hell when the game's released but right now it could mean any number of things you fucking autist
>>337918853
time is so fucked, not even the bronze dragonflight can fix it
>>337919864
>still keeps using buzzwords and doesn't actually make good counter arguments other than "It's not what I like!"
>i-if I use the c-cuck buzzword it'll make ethem stop replying!
>>337920321
You are baiting or acting retarded on purpose. Void Gods are new lore they made up just few months ago. The dark naaru or whatever are not them.
>>337920113
Even if that was true (which its not) how would that be "shitting on the lore"
Are characters just not allowed to evolve in your eyes or what?
>>337919834
They are basically one and the same. Just called differently for lore's sake.
>>337918829
It's just a "what if" card that has nothing to do with actual lore. The fucking dreadlord triggers me though.
>>337920302
Not anymore. If you're an ehancement shaman you cuck thrall and get the doomhammer. Thrall then says you're more powerful than him as a shaman.
>>337919526
> orcs and draeneis are from the same planet
> orcs
> draenei
> from the same planet
You fucking newfag piece of shit
>no playable Arrakoa race
I will be angry for the rest of my life because of this.
>>337920495
>>337919834
>different feet
>different hands
>different body overall, more skeleton-like
>no mouth
>>337918629
It's just a super nathrazeme. They get a gold aura, their horns turn translucent and they can now beat freeza
>>337919071
pandaren were a joke. First in the WC3 undead campaign by catapulting a horde of trees you could find a waterfall that gave you an easter egg. Then in the TFT campaign you could get one after getting to an extra level (to unlock it you get into an area was burning exploding falling sheep, dont tell me that is seriious lore too). And demon hunter blades had their symbol changed with a panda face too because of reasons. But none of these were because pandaren were a serious addition/race. On chen in the extra horde campaign might be legit.
>>337920219
It has. You should re read dialog between the nathraziems between each other in 3 among other things. Maybe you should actually play the game and not shitpost.
>>337920464
Go away, Metzen.
>>337920464
When every character "evolves" to the same end, that's an issue.
>>337920529
>as a shaman.
Paladin foreshadowing confirmed
>>337920529
is this shit for real? So basically now everyone will be Thrall?
>>337920529
He doesn't say you're more powerful, he says you're more deserving because he misused the elements.
>/v/irgins in charge of actually knowing anything about something they're bitching about
>>337920613
Let it soak in the there was an expansions certered around the "Joke".
Warcraft III lore babbies are entitled manchildran. They got mad a race's looks were retconned because it was true to the lore but also get upset when blizzard keep lore from warcraft 3, aka pandarens.
you know despite all the retcons blizzard ever did
the absolute worst is this "demons can only be killed forever in the twisting nether" nonsense
and the whole "burning legion is universal among all timelines thing" that meant apparently HFC archimonde is the same as hyjal archimonde
shit makes no sense - how are the legion falling for the same tricks if theyve died to them before
how are they not completely omniscient of every possibility if they have access to every timeline ever
isnt every demon raid/dungeon boss we've killed now completely ruined because they're not actually dead?
fuck this shit
>>337914918
because magic gave them fat tits and knee knocking horsedicks
shit, they make dryads blush from their sheer length/girth difference
>>337916292
These are the hallmarks, these are the pillars.
>>337920464
>Thrall evolved to a boring middle aged guy suffering a midlife crisis
BRAVO METZEN
>>337920693
Until he obviously gets the hammer back when the new expansion rolls in and they have to get rid of artifact weapons.
>>337920453
You specifically mentioned that using the Naaru as a weapon is dangerous because they can turn into a dark Naaru.
We have defeated a dark Naaru already.
Do you not understand this?
Or did they retcon the M'uru encounter into being a fucking fever dream and thats not what turned Naaru/dark Naaru/whatever the fuck you want to call it really are?
>>337920613
First Chen cameo was in the Night Elf campaign, in the bottom left corner during the gauntlet mission IIRC
>>337920720
And you ought to let it "soak in" that MoP was objectively one of the best additions to lore the series ever had.
>>337920092
>everything is fixed or rebuilt and this is ok because time passed
Except it's shitty writing. If removes all consequences from any events of the past or future ones. Everyone is immortal, entire civilizations that were destroyed just come back to life because ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ it's been a while. And because it's an MMO everything is stuck in an eternal stalemate where no giant world-ending battles will ever occur again because it wouldn't pander to whoever lost.
It removed the feeling that the story actually mattered and was interesting, which was the cornerstone of Blizzard games all the way up until WoW. It ruined my favorite game company.
>>337920713
No he actually says you're more deserving because you have unlocked the latent abilities of the doom hammer. If thrall, green jesus can't unlock the latent abilities of the doomhammer and you can, that's pretty much saying you're a better shaman and stronger than him.
>anon in charge of being smart
>>337920583
Digitigrade, tall, with gray-blue skin, bony skull and glowing eyes.
Yeah, nothing in common.
>>337920829
>this is ok because time passed
I don't see the problem. Do you get mad when you watch a TV show or movie and near the end they do a small time skip where everyone grows up?
>>337920756
>weapons become corrupt
>only their original masters can purify them
man I can see it coming
>>337920297
You wouldn't a dragonmilf, would you?
>>337920729
Time travel is where they officially jumped the shark for me. I just don't give a fuck anymore. WoW needs to die.
>>337917697
Forsaken player here,
You are gravely mistaken.
>>337914823
I love it, much closer to the original lore and no futa cock in sight.
>>337915881
Yrel is a shitty Mary Sue that (quite literally) killed all the best aspects of the draenei. I clenched my fist in rage when I saw her appear in Maraad's armor.
I'm conflicted,I hate waifufags who literally only go buy a game or watch a movie because they have fanservice,like how girls who go to marvel movies only do it for the shirtless Chris Hemsworth scenes.
But what I hate even more is these sjw scumbags who have to destroy everything beautiful to appeal to these dyke feminists.Seriously I don't care what feminism 'used' to be.All feminism is know is a bunch of old,single cunts who want young,pretty women to be as miserable as they are.
I'll just have to withold judgement on this till I see the movie.Maybe she's old,maybe she's not the final product,I'm curious why her eyes aren't glowing blue like the first pic.
>>337920619
It's not there.
I even double checked, but you're making shit up.
>>337914823
Meth is a hell of a drug.
>>337920825
Whoah there, I didn't say it was shit, why so hostile? MoP fanboys can get really defensive about their furry expac.
>>337919996
Well I'm not saying it was impossible for humans to still be around in Lordaeron, they almost certainly were, I'm just saying that Stormwind popping up as a relatively large and powerful kingdom like it is in WoW with the southern eastern kingdoms being relatively peaceful like it was is a pretty big retconn.
http://wow.gamepedia.com/New_Stormwind_%28WC2_Orc%29
Here's the mission right here, the people trying to rebuild Stormwind were supposed to have been wiped out.
Would've made more sense for the major human power in WoW being lead by Jaina in Kalimdor or Kul Tiras. But Blizzard pretty much sacrificed lore in order to make the game-world more "balanced"
>>337920778
>You specifically mentioned
Different anon.
>We have defeated a dark Naaru already.
Yes we have. Void gods arent dark Naaru.
>Do you not understand this?
I am perfectly clear with this.
>Or did they retcon the M'uru encounter into being a fucking fever dream
They didnt. It still happened. I am not even arguing that. I am arguing against "We have already defeated void gods before, no big deal", since we havent.
>>337921057
Yeah, I just double checked and its there. You're making shit up.
I can play this game too.
>>337921098
Wasn't the Kul Tiras largely destroyed by the Horde when they capture the runestone on Caer Darrow? It's been ages since I played WC2.
>>337920756
Yeah how the fuck are they going to handle artifact weapons? Like, I'm going to get more powerful weapons than the ashbringer in the next xpac? The fuck?
>>337921178
I literally ctrl+f the game script.
If you have a claim.
Fucking prove it.
>>337920936
>where everyone grows up?
Everyone didn't just grow up. People who died came back to life, entire seasons were just glazed over, everyone got a second chance, went to college on a football scholarship and became a fucking doctor and married supermodels.
If that's the analogy you want to use, that's WoW lore.
>>337921264
And I literally just did the same thing. If YOU have a claim YOU prove it. Maybe you should play the game.
>>337914823
Looks like they fixed the race
>>337921237
There's no next xpac ;)
>>337921264
He doesn't and is either shitposting, or confusing WoW with wc3.
>>337920985
What part of her is a dragon, because all I see is some fat bimbo in silly lingerie.
Post more lewd Draenei
>>337921237
There is no way they will let the players keep the same weapons for ANOTHER expansion, so its either going to be new, more powerful ones or returns to old style of boss drops.
>>337921410
>fat bimbo in silly lingerie
Wow, i didn't know you could be this gay
>>337921306
You're making it pretty dramatic. It's a fucking fantasy world where there is literally time traveling dragons existing. If you can't handle something simple as "dalaran was destroyed, let's rebuild it." then you're a fucking idiot. There is nothing "lazy" about it? I'm sure you would have complained about why it's not rebuilt after all these years.
>>337921410
>fat
u wot m8?
>>337920302
What the fuck ever happened with Knaak? It's like they were sucking his dick and then decided to purge his Gary Stu and Mary Sues one day.
>>337920779
Could have sworn it was the undead mission with the meatwagons and kelthuzad ashes. There was the secret panderan relaxation spring towards the west half if the map
>>337914770
>You will never come home from a long day of questing and rest your head on her blueberry ass
why even live
>>337918825
It was a half assed way to recoup the lost money in trying to redo the outland leveling zones (like cataclysm) but decided it was better to just make them new zones, as they got better ideas from it.
>>337921409
Adding to this in case someone is confused
https://www.gamefaqs.com/pc/919870-warcraft-iii-battlechest/faqs/38456
http://www.gamefaqs.com/pc/919870-warcraft-iii-battlechest/faqs/38545
>>337921327 is a lying mongoloid
>>337921457
>>337921327
That's not how burden of proof works you moron.
1: You had a claim.
2: I disputed that claim.
3: It turns out that you have nothing to support your claim.
4: Fuck off.
>>337921214
I don't remember anything specific about them being attacked, Daelin says something to Jaina about her being to young to see what the orcs did to their homeland, but that could probably mean the Eastern Kingdoms in general.
>>337921483
>recycled dead characters from other games are just dungeon bosses who wait around for you to come kill them
>There is nothing "lazy" about it
Sure thing, man. The lore is great and has no problems at all.
>>337918825
They had bigger plans but fucked up. I'm sure it would have been better had they "had enough resources".
>>337921483
>time traveling dragons
also forced wow shit the whole fucking dragon aspect plot is retarded and shit and was even retcon in wow because it was fucking shit.
>>337921483
>where there is literally time traveling dragons existing
If I ever meet a time traveling dragon or create a time machine I will first go and murder Knaak.
>>337921457
