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What is your excuse for not playing in 4K?
1080p is obsolete
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>>337908850
>OP playing video games
>>337909280
>having subhuman poor eyesight
Human eye can't see past the current console standard.
>>337908850
Framerate
Why do 4k images look better even on a sub-4k screen?
I don't need 4k.
At all.
>>337908850
i heard 4k is a meme and a 21:9 monitor is a way cooler thing to have.
Upscaling
>>337909824
Downsampling
>>337909840
21:9 is a literal meme
4k is the next step
The human ears can't tell a difference between 1080p and 4K.
I think we should focus more on having experiences that aren't slideshows as opposed to experiences that are shiny.
>>337908850
cause you don't play games by zoomin characters until you see their irises
I sit more than 1 foot away from my TV
How well will the 1080 do 4k theoretically speaking?
>>337908850
for a 24" monitor standing right in front of me in a desk 4k is overkill and the difference in quality doesn't justify the difference in framerate.
>>337910612
60 fps at least on new AAA games
Time for 4k lads
Because 144hz 1440p is better.
only framerate matters tho
4k is a meme, 1080 is perfectly fine
>>337910836
Not maxed out.
>mfw when I went from Xbox one to 4k gaming
>le gud graphics are important meme
4k is a meme until there is proper support and it's the standard which won't be for another 8 years minimum.
Unless you want shitty textures, more tearing because of optimization issues, and all the other bullshit that plagued games back when we were just switch to 1080 as the standard.
And we still don't get fully optimized 1080p based content.
>>337910951
And much harder to run for a literal placebo.
>>337911013
Yeah, maxed out
980 ti already can do 4k at about 50-55 fps maxed m8
>>337911059
Hnnnng
I do, it's awesome.
>>337911103
>yeah maxed out
Bullshit unless you disable AA and whatnot. Cite benchmarks.
>>337911095
4k is trash compared to a 144hz 2k gsync monitor
>>337911281
What about a 4k IPS g-sync monitor
>>337911281
>2k
So 1080p?
>>337911281
I can do DOOM on ultra at 4K60 on a 980 what's the big deal
>>337908850
Because it was 4k vs 144Hz.
I chose framerate.
>>337911365
With everything enabled including AA? Proofs pls
>>337911323
It'll only run at 60hz
>>337909686
>>337910127
Watch Dogs?
>>337911281
4k60 is literally easier to achieve than 1080p120.
>>337908850
Games are still made with 1080p in mind and 4k monitors are still laughably expensive. No reason to upgrade until the price drops.
>>337908850
>he buys into the 4k gimmick
top kek m8
>>337911065
it's not even make graphics better.
>>337911507
Yeah dude. It's not that big of a deal is it? I don't know if gsync helps and whatnot
>>337908850
Maybe when video cards stop sucking I will consider 4k
>>337908850
I was born before the year 2000 and graphics/resolution don't matter to me. All I care about is whether or not a game is enjoyable to play.
>>337908850
because if a game zoomed in like that
itd re render the scene to 1080p again
and still look fine
its like when 360 gen people were playign 480p games on 1080p teles
they actually looked better on crt displays
Until 4K is at the level 1080p is now, I'm not investing it's simply not worth it to me personally until it's mainstream, and easy, as fuck without needing top of the line shit to run it.
>>337911573
Yeah
>>337911581
Are all settings maxed out? Is AA enabled?
>>337911639
Like I said, proofs pls
The only excuses I'm hearing is that you people are too poor and mediocre to do 4k
>>337912024
basically yeah
>>337912020
how do proof
>>337908850
I'm not playing that close to the screen to give a shit.
>>337912128
Just record with fraps or something
>>337912229
Fraps fucks the fps by a mile don't record with fraps
>>337912229
fraps lowers fps
>>337908850
What is your excuse for not streaming games directly into your brain?
Monitors are obsolete.
>muh pixels
>>337912012
What do you need to run it at 4k?
Watch Dogs was weird regarding performance
900p 30fps on ps4, 792p 30fps on xbone and it actually ran much better on pc
I had about 45fps at 1080p on a gtx 760
>>337908850
okay faggot, tell me what value 4000 is representative of
I'll wait
>>337912561
Killing your framerate, literally.
People are memeing about 4K only because they need a reason to spend 600 for a CG.
>>337912561
your mother
>>337912497
At least a 970
>>337912561
Not him, but 4096x2160, iirc. 4096 vertical lines, hence 4K.
>>337912739
>980
>nearly console levels of framrate
>put it to 1080p
>infinite frames
FPS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>resolution
>your waifu in 4k
>>337912739
why is 390x not on there
>>337912893
I always wanted to see a 512 texture bikini in 4k
>>337912893
fuck this game
>>337911281
>AA when rendering games at a 4K resolution
nigga u dum
>>337912976
It's old I guess
>>337912880
Isn't 1440p 60fps pretty good in this case?
I have neither the money nor the computer to buy a 4k display.
So I went for a 144Hz screen instead, and it's absolutely great.
>>337913043
Women in it are great
>>337908850
1440p 60FPS PC Master Race Here
4K is the same pixel density as normal 27" 1440p screens when the 4k screen is 32", anything larger makes it look worse.
>>337911581
60fps is too low. Able to play 120fps or over in 4k costs too much. Maybe in 5years
>>337913310
Im a neet, but my dream is a 144Hz and 4k display duel setup. Its my motivation to do something productive.
>>337912893
Someone likes man hands
>>337913305
Yeah but I don't feel like buying another monitor for vidya, just got one for art so 1080p vidya is more than ok with me for now.
>>337912867
who the fuck would buy a 17x9 monitor??
thats the most autistic thing in the word
3840x2160 is the correct aspect ratio and has NOTHING related to 4000 vertical or horizontal
fuck this marketing meme word 4k
Good panels are too expensive
>>337912880
>Believing ultra details benchmarks
Slightly lower details give a massive performance boost and you can barely tell the difference. 4k high details looks way better than FHD/QHD ultra details.
>>337913305
Yes, don't let screentearing fags tell you it isn't
>>337913448
it's supposed to be 4x the pixels of 1080
>>337913439
The default size is fucking huge. Even if you turn it all the way down they hardly look like women's hands.
>>337913419
You mean two times 4k144Hz or one 144Hz and one 4k?
>>337913305
>>337913464
It's actually the sweet spot.
Same pixel density as 4K on the standard 32" screens if the 1440p screen is 27".
You used to get better performance since AA wasn't needed at that res, but some games intentionally make it so you need it, and you need crazily insanely resource hungry versions of it.
>>337913506
Yea one 144hz and one 4k. I also want the screen room for other things, not just games.
>gtx 1080 won't run modern games at 4k 60fps
>>337911581
>1080p120Hz is 248,832,000 pixels rendered per second
>4k60Hz is 497,664,000 pixels rendered per second
>>4k60 is literally easier to achieve than 1080p120.
???
>>337913189
>4k doesn't have jaggies
Nice meme faggot. It might be less than 1080p but you still have jaggies
>>337913498
then what does the k represent??
>>337913581
Maybe not on the highest settings, but it will be pretty close.
>>337913636
Not to mention until very very recently the actual bandwidth the inputs themselves were capable of (and cables) limited you to 30fps at 4k.
>>337913715
"kilo" as in thousand.
2*1920=3840 which is rounded to 4000
>>337913682
literally retarded/
even at 1440p AA isn't nesseccary unless it's a game that's intentionally wanting you to use it an introduces them so you use some insanely resource intensive version of AA.
>>337913750
DisplayPort 1.2 has been a thing since 2009 you know. I wouldn't call that very recent on the scale of the lifespan of 4k displays.
>>337909686
Framerate yes.
Bought Doom. Set it on ultra. It starts. 70 fps. Retarded lightning effects. Depth of field. Turn shit down. 120 fps. Like fuck if you actually cared about playing video games you would prefer smoother gameplay over some pixels.
>>337912229
>fraps
>>337913682
4k is like running 1080p with 2x SSAA all the time + actually seeing all the pixels that are rendered.
>>337913798
2560x1440 is alright without AA but you still need some.
>>337912229
>2016
>FRAPS
>>337913878
I wish this meme would die
>>337909132
>>337909686
>>337910127
>>337911059
>>337912893
>3840x2160
>4K
you got scammed
>>337913919
>like running 1080p with 2x SSAA
Not quite, downsampling algorithms still introduce some amount of blur. Native 4K is sharper and individual pixels are more visible. Jaggies are still a problem with certain objects such as pic related.
>>337914057
>I don't know how resolution works
>>337914057
>DSR is a scam
>>337914057
It's just a terminology my man.
>>337913872
Cards didn't offer it until recently I thought.
cables themselves were an issue as well.
>>337914057
Pimply epin.
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Is the new ASUS ROG any good?
It's 4K, IPS and G-sync
Plus it's the same price as the old PG287Q
because i'm playing at 8K
>>337912893
What's the point of 4k in that game if it uses ps2 era graphics?
>>337913350
limited costumization
>>337913795
yeah so I should just call my 1080p a 2k monitor since it's 1920 wide
no
if you say 4k you are a sheep
SHEEP
might as well call a gtx 980 a 1000 too
>my numbers are higher than yours
>I am a better person than you
>>337914027
Wanting a modicum of higher visuals compared to being able to play games in a smooth manner is now a meme.
I play in surround, can't do that with 4k monitors yet
>>337914225
>yeah so I should just call my 1080p a 2k monitor since it's 1920 wide
Actually some marketing does that.
>>337914197
Because theres no other way to give it anti aliasing. Even if you max out the AA in game it looks like shit, thats the only way to make her edges smooth.
>>337914284
>70 fps isn't smooth
>120 fps has a noticeable effect on graphical impressiveness or gameplay
>>337914145
According to Wikipedia the Radeon HD 6000 released in 2010 series added DP 1.2 to the cards. I don't think 4k was even a thing back then.
>>337914331
For a game like that, even playing on toaster would be enough. You're overdoing it.
>>337914392
>>120 fps has a noticeable effect on graphical impressiveness or gameplay
Yes, it does.
t. someone with a 144Hz display.
>>337914405
I hate jagged edges.
At the average desktop viewing distance of 2 feet, a 23 inch screen with 5120x2880 resolution makes individual pixels not visible with naked eye.
We're close, future generations will be asking what that weird "antialiasing" thing was.
>>337914328
>>337908850
I don't have the money to afford it.
>>337914560
Finally someone honest
seriously considering dropping some dosh on a 4k monitor now i got a decent job
i only have a 980 though so i don't really think i'm going to be able to put 4k through that.
i really fucking suck with computers too, i like pc gaming now i've gotten into it but i have no fucking idea how to fix half of the shit that goes wrong.
I guess i could get a second 980 and SLI them or just wait for the pascal cards
>>337914729
You're better off buying a 1440p120Hz screen instead. You'll be able to exploit that relatively more fully than a 4k display.
1440p 144hz is infinitely better.
>>337914729
Just look up the bench marks, friend. Most games maxed out run around 40-50FPS, but you can manage 4k if you simply dont max them out or if that sounds playable to you then go for it. But keep in mind thats only the latest games, most of the time post people dont play AAA games 24/7 and instead play older games that will run fine.
>>337914768
Nice source
>>337909132
And yet it's so jaggi i could hunt it
>all these 1440p cucks
settling for mediocrity huh
>>337914729
Get a 27" 1440p IPS screen with a super low response time, just be aware IPS doesn't offer great blacks, and if there's a ton of inputs there's likely some high input delay.
>>337914930
>Above standard
>Mediocre
????
I need a new GPU.
i'll probably get ndivia 1070
>>337914954
OLED should be the replacement for IPS when it gets cheap enough, and also if black blotches aren't an issue anymore.
>>337914841
>>337914843
>retards who keep spouting 1440p120/144hz without ever mentioning how fucking hard it is to actually run modern games at that res and framerate
>>337911581
4k60 is easier and is actually fucking noticeable.
>>337914404
I must have been thinking of an older HDMI standard, the cables were an issue too.
>>337914841
everyone said this but if i upgrade in a couple years and 4k becomes more of the norm i'll have dropped a bunch of cash on now outdated tech. I'd like 4k for other stuff like browsing and video too
>>337914954
yeah people said about getting TN over IPS for the response times but really i don't play anything super twitch like cs go or whatever so i'd rather have the better colours/viewing angles from an ips than the super top tier response times.
>>337908850
Because Video games don't exist in 4k dimensions.
1440p 120hz is hard enough.
lol @ 4k 60fps
>>337915115
that's why you want an IPS display with a bypass board, meaning a single input, offers less input lag than anything else, like the Qnix. You have to read display benchmarks.
Mine has half a frame of input lag which is the best you can get, others have a full half second or more.
>>337915095
HDMI has only been able to output 4k60Hz with its 2.0 version which no GPU currently outputs.
Nvidia's 1000 series will be 2.0 compatible though I believe.
So yes, HDMI is way behind the times when it comes to 4k.
>>337915043
Even if you won't be able to achieve 144fps, having 80-100 would be a noticeable improvement over 60.
>>337915272
>unstable framerate
What's the point of having a 120hz screen if it's fluctuating from 60 to 100 every 10 seconds?
>>337915272
Not nearly as much as the difference from 1080/1440 to 4k. Who in their right mind would prefer 1080/1440 at 80-100 to 4k60?
>>337915265
it seems i need to google a lot of things
being a tech pleb is suffering
i just want my video games to look pretty and not chug/tear
fucking dark souls 3 had so many lines across it it looked like folded paper till i put vsync on and i have a fucking 980. My monitor must be legit trash.
i suppose the great debate is 4k 60 or 1440 100/120
because my brother got a 4k monitor (not for games) but that still has a 60fps display and despite being 32 inches still looked really really nice
>>337915394
lol no one runs anything at 4k 60 unless it's ass old.
>>337915043
1440*2560*120 = 442,368,000
2160*3840*60 = 497,664,000
It's easier to display 1440p120Hz and like >>337915272 mentioned you don't even have to go all the way there to feel improvements.
>sacrificing resolution for refresh rates above 60
>when most modern games are console ports capped at 60fps, if not 30
>>337915393
I was talking about performance in different games, not fluctuating framerate. Also, g-sync/freesync make it less jarring.
>>337915454
Same for 1440p144hz
>>337915605
Try telling these fedorables.
>>337915462
Look at the minimum.
These benchmarks are basically =
And using one game without any other knowledge doesn't mean shit.
>>337913636
>>337915463
Care to explain how calculating the amount of pixels is more proof than real world benchmark performance? >>337911581
DigitalFoundry just released benchmarks on the 1080.
Let's see if it can reasonably play on 4K.
>>337915838
this retard literally keeps linking a single fucking benchmark that barely supplies any info.
>tfw small room and desk and I don't have enough space for a 4K display
>>337915970
That's more benchmarks than you've posted you stupid fucking cunt.
>>337915805
>Look at the minimum
>1% Low FPS is nearly half the framerate at 1080p
>At 4k it's only 15 less
45-60fps is better than 60-120.
>>337914298
>1080p
nice try
>>337916219
It really isn't. Fluctuating from 60 to 120 is less bothersome than 45 to 60.
>>337914392
spot the toaster faggot, human eyes can see up to 300fps and even if you didn't see them, your mouse movement would instantly feel the difference, if you are having 120+fps there is almost no imput lag, while with 60fps there is a noticeable delay
>>337916219
>drops below 60
>acceptable
>ever
>Implying frame rate matters
Is there any guess how well would the upcoming 1070/1080 be at 4k?
OoT ran at something like 22fps and it's still a legend. Same can be said for many more games from any era.
This obsession over high framerates is a new thing stemming from r/masterrace bullshit.
>>337916391
refresh rate has nothing to do with input lag.
>>337908850
Good marketeer
>>337916754
Here's a taste:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuViSYChy7Q
what even is out there that plays well on 4k without an absurd rig?
Like i imagine Arkham Knight would look pretty nice, TW3, but i cant think of that much else.
>>337916754
Digital foundry just released a benchmark
It's about 40-50 fps on ultra at 4k for AAA games like Witcher 3
>>337916837
OoT is great, and would have been even better running at a higher framerate.
30fps is fine.
2560x1440 Korean Monitor is the true best choice at this time.
>Frame rate not completely fucked
>Still looks great
Is IPS lag really that noticeable at 4ms grey to grey? I'm currently looking at Asus ROG PG27AQ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236677 as a possible next purchase
I don't see the point in resolutions over 1440p unless I'm downsampling from 4k.
>>337916913
>top tier bleeding edge GPU still can't break 60 fps without Crossfire/SLI
>actual shills in this thread saying 30fps is fine as long as it's rendered in 4k resolution
This is why I still use 1080p. I can barely tolerate sub 120fps let alone fucking 30. 4k performance is still years away from being tolerable.
>>337917273
4ms isn't noticeable at all
>>337909686
this. 1440p 144 hz > 4k 60hz
>>337917283
>I'm literally rendering a game at 4K and putting the image on a monitor that can't handle it
>"I don't see the point in resolutions over 1440p"
>>337917273
>ROG branded anything
just no
>>337917425
Downsampling is basically the highest quality AA possible, if your PC can handle the performance hit
>>337908850
1080P suits me just finemy pc is a toaster. 1176x664 masterrace
>>337917526
>AA
Do you know why AA exists at all? It's because your monitor's ppi is too low and you need something to compensate for it.
By downsampling, you are rendering a 4K image anyway. You just choose to display it on an inferior monitor after putting it through a crude resizing algorithm.
>>337917454
ROG monitors are accepted as the best though you twat
>>337917598
Nope
![5575c6c39f[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/G4F1Ako.png "5575c6c39f[1].png")
>Mfw going back to 60fps and realizing how absolutely disgusting it is compared to 144fps
4k/60fps is a meme, 1440p/144hz is what truly matters. 4k will indeed be the next thing years from now but 4k/60fps is trash, call me when 4k/144hz becomes the standard.
>>337916896
>Almost 2x difference between 1080 and 980 in DX12 RotR
That's pretty impressive. Guess the new async support is working after all
>>337917598
>IPS panel
Sit up straight while you play and you won't need one.
If I have a 4k monitor
Will VR run the same as it would if I used a 1080p monitor?
Or would it sap fps somehow
Yes I'm retarded
>>337918182
Why would your monitor affect the VR headset, it's basically a separate monitor.
>>337917737
Partially correct. AA uses various algorithms to avoid the need to re-render the whole image. This results in a performance gain compared to downsampling at the expense of image quality. Just look at the infamous FXAA blur to see what I'm talking about.
>>337918610
>970
lol
Sell your 970 to put money into the 1080.
>>337918582
I don't know
Wouldn't the GPU be running the 4k monitor AND the VR headset?
>>337918610
depends on the game. my friend has a 970 and a 1440p 144hz monitor, and he runs D44M on all Ultra at 60-80 frames. im sure other games run 1440p differently.
>>337918182
>>337918817
It depends on what resolution you're running the game at. Doesn't matter if your monitor is 4k.
4k TVs are expensive. I'm more than satified with my good old 1080p 44" TV for now. I mostly play console games and my PC isn't strong enough to render 4k.
Also I think the whole thing is a meme. 1080p gaming is good enough for now.
>>337921029
>everything is a meme
Shut the fuck up
I am so fucking sick of this 'meme' shit
>>337921258
>le i hate memes meme
