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Do people still make good dungeon crawlers for PC?
Pic related was good but I want something with more combat and less puzzles. Not that puzzles are a bad thing. I just want to go into a dungeon with my group of doodz and kill a bunch of monsters, and nothing really seems to deliver that experience.
>>337896345
There's Grimrock 2, but even that had quite a lot of buzzles
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Fine heres your overwatch picture. Now talk about DRPG's.
>>337896746
>There's Grimrock 2
Yea, still a good game, but not the monster masher I was hoping for. It feels like your choices are Grimrock, or all of the 20+ year old DRPG's.
>>337896345
If you want more combat and less puzzles, try Might & Magic X Legacy. It has turn-based combat though so it's not like Grimrock.
>>337896345
You can emulate the first three EO games on PC.
>>337896345
The Fall of the Dungeon Guardians.
tank/healer/dps, aggro system and with vanilla wow talent trees
Look into StarCrawlers OP.
>>337896345
there's eliminage gothic
it was originally for psp but got a PC port
seems mildly entertaining but the ui needs to be gotten used to since it was somewhat of a direct port but there is mouse support
great game to play with one hand though
>>337897768
>unfinished early access BUY NOW!!11
Yeah no, try again in 3 years when it's finished.
>>337896345
Is the original Dark Souls (and Demon's Soul) can be considered as dungeon crawler? I know DaS2 and DaS3 are basically boss fights after boss fights, but DaS and DeS have some pretty good and challenging dungeons where you can't just bail out of easily whenever you see a bonfire.
Are there any games of this type for the PS4? I actually really enjoyed that weird, weeb-Wizardry for the PS3 and was hoping for more of the same but cant seem to find anything.
>>337897886
no just because there is a dungeon doesnt mean it's a dungeon crawler
the word crawler is used intentionally to describe movement through the dungoen - it is deliberate and metered movement
look up gameplay for grimrock and youll see what i mean
I haven't played this, it might be as garbage as it looks.
It's bad I know, but all the good dungeon crawlers have moved to 3DS and Vita.
Too bad that also entails attaching weeaboo shit to it, but you'll find some gold in the pile of dirt,
play might and magic 6 mandate of heaven nigger
>>337896345
Etrian Odyssey 1 through 4. The game really found its footing in 2, but 1 was still good. The story comes up once maybe every couple of hours, and the puzzles are really only based around movement, not many buttons or switches.
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>>337897587
>Might & Magic
I'm looking for basically that, but in a dungeon, with more of a focus on the small party, with traps and puzzles sprinkled in to keep it interesting, maybe a story in the background told though books and notes.
this might be good, is coming out for PC
>>337899165
just make sure to equip appropriately
>>337897729
>tank/healer/dps, aggro system
Is the holy trinity mandatory? If not looks interesting.
>>337898283
Looks like The Legend or The Quest or whatever by those RedShift(?) guys.
I fucking love their style, reminds me of might and magic strongly.
>>337899228
It's a porn game isn't it...
>>337899345
Nah it's just another mindnumbingly shallow game by Experience with nice art.
>>337899454
>mindnumbingly shallow game
That's a shame. I like the look of the dungeon.
>>337899003
Might and magic 3 or 4 and 5 are literally that. they are old school but still very fun
>>337900205
I played them years and years ago. Looking for new stuff. Sad to see it's all anime for handhelds.
>>337900313
wizardry 8 maybe
Wizards and Warriors. Or was it Warriors and Wizards. Can't remember. Start in a tavern and create your party and the rest is dungeon crawling from memory.
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>>337900447
This?
>>337900352
>2001
Thanks but looking for 2010+. Can't really stand that early 3D look anymore. I'm sure it's probably a great game though.
>>337900795
was not as
>>337900447
described.
epic soundtrack though for an nes title
>>337896345
Back when i had an absolutely horrible case of craving tile-based dungeon crawlans few years ago i pretty much did my best lurking all over the internet for more. The situation is somewhat better now thanks to EO series revitalizing the genre somewhat, but there's almost no gems hiding from you in the rough.
Try Orcs and Elves, it's a mobile game yeah, but it's actually incredibly addictive and fun combat oriented one. Honestly give it a go. You can probably just gran a DS emulator and a rom and play, since it was ported to DS.
There's Grimrock, yeah, and a bunch of games seemingly made on it's engine, like >>337897729 this one and Dungeon Kingdom, they look to be somewhat meh to me
I really fucking loved Undercroft (another mobile game), plus you can try to find The Quest or The Legend (good fucking luck) if you like this old-school stuff
Mostly you have just old games like Wizardy, M&M, Anvil of Dawn and so on
>>337900313
yes unfortunately western developers are obsessed with making everything simple and easy to appeal to the masses, which doesn't really fit with the traditional dungeon crawler
they used to be kings of the genre but the best you can hope for nowadays is the next streamlined elder scrolls. the japanese are way better at doing european fantasy tropes (see dark souls) nowadays
>>337901060
>>337901440
That's both what I expected, and did not want to hear.
>>337898283
What game?
>>337896345
Pic related. Played this recently and was really good with only a few puzzles that aren't very hard. The tricky part is just to know where you need to go and what to do its semi straight forward.
>>337901775
The Quest
>>337897729
it's like one of my cantonese mmo!
>>337899003
M&M X has dungeons, and a small party, and traps, and puzzles.
>>337900795
>This?
I think he meant this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81UNBB3GVA4&list=PLF69B8A9CC7E0F074
My first dungeon crawler. Anyone else play it? I was too young to make it very far.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhQg-b4j5ZM
>>337902824
Yea that one. Thanks for the nostalgia.
>>337902394
Arx Fatalis is a crazy ass game.Did you encounter the black beast?
>>337898208
Theres king's field and the shadow tower series. Not grid movement but itsgreat exploration. Controls like a retarded tank since its so dated but if you can stomach it, the latest games of the series are king's field 4 and shadow tower abyss on the ps2. Shadow tower abyss was fan translated so thats also a thing
>>337903693
Yea that shit scared the hell out of me when i realised my weapons and spells had no effect. And when i found out that he had a running animation when it will catch up to you and kill you if when i was truly fucked.
>>337904149
haha, glad to hear that I'm not the only one that shat myself during that part.I'm not shamed to admit I had to look up how to defeat him. In my defence, that shit is absurd, especially given the situation.
>>337896345
Maybe try Ultima Underworld 1 and 2. There are some puzzles, but they're not that often.
>>337904149
Fuck the Black Beast. Shit was terrifying, but I still maintain to this day that it was a mistake to make just a 100% invincible enemy when you are supposed tobe this big bad ass guardian thing
Also, go pickpocket the key from the human kings inventory and open the big door near the tavern on level 1.
>>337896345
MMX was decent
>>337904310
Yea same most areas off that game are convoluted as hell in what you need to do but i guess it gives it that charm and doesn't hold ya hand.
>>337897768
looks nice, I hope they will finish it
>>337904537
It was a great little segment, but yeah I agree. Is it ever explained what the black beast was supposed to be?
>>337904632
I did like that aspect. I found myself getting lost in the world and loving it.I did find the dragon on my own, though that was 100% luck.
>>337904632
arcane cursed to make dishonored sequels to all eternity now, why live...
>>337904857
Some terrifying creature that is somehow immune to even the MAX cheat that ate all the dwarves.
>>337902394
i liked how some puzzles weren't stuff that just "happened" to be there but actually fit in the world, like when you have to "poison" the cake with wine to have the goblin king get a dysentery attack to have him get out of throne room and talk to him
>>337905198
I remember using no-clip at one point, and it sprinted through the walls to kill me.
Pants were s h a t
I'd love to know where it came from, and why it loved dwarves so much
>>337905648
The dwarves simplydug too deep
The entire game takes place in abandoned dwarven mines. The dwarves themselves went further down to make room for the other races. Its no accident that the dwarves realm is the lowest point in all the mines.
>>337898651
If you're gonna play them 4 might be a good place to start, it's the easiest and most babyish of the series but considering the kind of buttrape EO2 brings to the table not starting there would probably help get into it
>>337905823
Thatmakes perfect sense actually, thank you
>Download Grimrock to see what's up
>Play through few levels
>Find a secret button on a wall
>Backtrack to the start and hug every wall to find more
>Go down few levels
>Fall down a hole by accident
>Find secret area
>Backtrack to the start again and fall down every hole
>Repeat process with every single secret trigger
HOW DO I PLAY THIS WITHOUT LOSING MY MIND
Paper Sorcerer. It's pretty much exactly what you're asking for and it often drops to like $3 and it was in ah umble bundle a long time back so you can probably find keys floating around for it for pennies.
>>337896345
Divinity Original Sin. Lots of combat on demand, when you get tired, go questing. When you tire of questing, go fighting. Recently started playing to prepare for part 2.
>>337908181
>HOW DO I PLAY THIS WITHOUT LOSING MY MIND
By taking your pills and getting a hold of your autism.
>>337908181
Th...There's also secret doors that open when you remove\place torches and rarely due to torch placement combination if there's a bunch of those things on the wall in one room. And also placing items in some niches, though that's rare too
>>337908510
And that's why i stopped playing it
>>337908181
It's basically OCD the game. I also need to check out every fucking piece of wall, twice sometimes, if I feel like there hasn't been any secret buttons nearby. ...did one room 3 times though.
I love it though, but the problem is that most of the time the rewards are shit. But it's still FUN to discover secrets and solve weird ass puzzles.
>>337908581
>i hate secrets
Poor you.
>>337908720
More like i hate having to autistically check literally everything in a level
>>337908181
>Grimrock 2 added switches even to the walls with roots and grass on them which were switch-free in the first game
>>337908905
And a shovel
>>337908786
Since apparently something forces you to, because you don't really "have to", you already have severe autism, so just learn to live with it.
The guys who made Grimrock better make a third one whenever they're done with whatever they're working on currently
Grimrock 1 was good, 2 on the other hand was GOAT
>>337908956
That god damn shovel.
>>337909136
I want to see them try their hand at a sci-fi dungeon crawler.
>>337909136
>oh, there's a teleport on top of pyramid
>lets just jump into it, nothing can go wrong, right?
>>337909291
>Push a secret switch in some random corridor
>Get teleported into a small room with 3 mimics running around
>>337902985
Man... the hours I spent playing that shit as a kid. It was madness back then. I can't remember if I ever beat the game.
>>337909291
>those medusa archers that petrify your party
>>337909607
Heh, I still remember my first mimic.
I dont want to.
I'm playing The Quest at the moment. I'm a sucker for hand drawn graphics. Here's a video of gameplay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTfHWCQiFcA
>>337902394
>Cultist dungeon underneath the inn.
>Has a room with a flesh bridge you need to activate.
>Magic is banned in that room so the player can't just float over the gap.
>In a secret nearby room is a lich.
>If you clip the lever through the wall and activate him without being locked in, you can pull him into the no-magic room.
>Every spell he casts will fizzle so you can just spent 5 minutes whacking him until he eventually dies (again).
>>337909849
>Let's put mimics into our game!
>Let's also make them jump and screech at your face when you trigger them!
>Let's also make them randomized for each playthrough!
>>337909607
>item on a pedestal
>"i dare you" sign nearby
>>337909998
The best part is the loot animation for chests where your party sticks their heads into the chest, in first person view.
>>337910210
>tfw when you will get attacked by a mimic in VR one day
my heart
>all this grimrock appreciation
My niggas
Can we all agree that desert mummy fight was the best fight?
>>337910168
>Not putting some useless item like a rock on the pedestal and then snatching the book like Indiana fucking Jones
>>337909961
I don't get. Why does it looks like this? I've bought Quest few years ago and it doesn't look like this at all
>>337910952
>killing mummies left and right while dancing around them
>never take damage
>avoiding the golems and their fire like a champ
>suddenlyLeprechaun fucker
>>337911337
>thought i've beaten the fucking game already
>suddenlyLeprechaun's Lair
>>337911337
>running so low on stamina
>go to sleep in that corner with that op sword
>get woken up by mummy taps from time to time
>>337911337
>beat the final boss
>well I feel there is more to this shit I'm not leaving yet
>see that faggot on the first floor
>oh I'm going to tear you a new asshole you cheeky fuck stop running
>locked in a room with him
>beat him to death
>it is me! the island master in my true form
That was both funny and painful
Okay let's get this started
>He didn't save Toorum
>he didn't make the meteorite hammer
>>337904025
King's Field 4 is amazing, and should emulate well even on a toaster.
It's got cumbersome controls though, takes like 8 seconds to complete a 360 spin.
>he didnt think to carry a skull around in the first game
TOUGH LUCK MOTHERFUCKER
>>337896345
Shin Megami Tensei
>>337911829
>tfw minotaur archer with like four skulls in grimrock 1
Feels so fucking good man
>>337909291
>>337912748
I think we can all agree that the smug fucking rat portrait is the best portrait
>>337908956
Buried treasure will always, without exception, have some hints pointing to it. Digging everywhere is the brute force solution, and would make your characters starve to death very quickly.
>trying to dig out every spot inthe desert
Nobody is that autistic.
>>337912748
>Sir Chez feels weak
>>337912887
>nobody is that autistic
where do you think we are
>>337912887
>Nobody is that autistic.
GRIMROCK THREAD
>>337912887
You can always save at a crystal and then go full autism with the shovel until you die.
...AND THEN LOAD AND REPEAT! AAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAA!
>>337912748
This was one of my best gaming moments of the last 15 years. It's when Grimrock 2 was bumped to GOAT level for me.
>>337912831
Toorum reincarnated
>>337912952
>>337913052
>>337913128
No, seriously. I don't believe anyone here actually did that.
It even defeats the point- you should find all of the treasures without having to spam the shovel if you just solve the related puzzles. Spamming shovel just takes the fun out of solving the puzzle.
>>337896345
There's this thing in works.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UerZ7CwIUvQ
Exanima is a quality dungeon crawler, especially if you want more combat.
It's really different but beware, for it is early access
>>337913298
This looks like shit. If you're a weeb you should just play Etrian Odyssey.
>>337913348
I tried it but could not work out how to fight shit, my character always moved and swung like his limbs were made of jelly and he was piss drunk
>>337913290
You heavily underestimate the autism of some people on /v/
>>337913704
You don't need to fight at all in Exanima, it actually makes the game sheer impossible to finish unless you don't take a hit ever.
Try some Play Monsters' Den Chronicles
>>337914209
Godfall when?
>>337913704
Yeah it's difficult but once you get it down it is one of the most satisfying games to play
>MFW when I shoulder barge a skeleton up again a wall and sledgehammer his head in
>>337913745
>>337913290
I didn't do that, but I did collect every single item in the game and take it to my "homebase" at the air shrine.
I vividly remember one particular dungeon, because it was the dungeon I lost some throwables in. I was carrying around 13 shurikens at the time and always made sure I had the same amount when I left. A fight with some crabs later and I was down a shuriken. I spent a solid half an hour staring at floor textures in and around those rooms looking for my shuriken. In the end it was on the very outer rim/corner of an elevated platform. Far enough away to not auto-pick up. Thankfully I found it.
I'm not sure at what point I took this image, but you can see in the background my pile of torches. I had a pile for burnt out torches, fresh torches and partly used torches. Took the torch out of every sconce.
>>337914743
To beat that I really think I need to dig up entire Island.
>>337914743
But why?
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Heres a pretty good old fash dungeon crawler for anyone intrested.
Simple, but all the core concepts are there, and still manages to be lots of fun.
Wish I could find more of these.
http://www.kongregate.com/games/garin/monsters-den
>>337915404
Autism. It does things to people.
>>337915404
Because autism.If i'd known you got a master key at the end of the game, I wouldn't have used my golden keys. I COULD HAVE KEPT MY GOLDEN KEYS, WHY DID I WASTE THEM.
>West makes boring oversimplified m&m clones
>Japan makjes shallow anime half of which is porn
There is no hope left, isn't it?
>>337916186
Grimrock and Etrian Odyssey are all that's left.
Goddamn, my Grimrock 2 saves are gone because my hdd went kia. I was in the pyramid on my 4man run and in ratling boss on my solo run.
/v/ threads on grimrock 2 when it came out were amazing. People were constantly sharing secrets and figuring out puzzles together. I wish I Could remember where all the guides I made were.
>>337900795
>wants good dungeon crawlers
>only 2010+ because le bad graphics
you're out of luck m8 there are only a handful of decent ones and a bunch of jap wizardry clones
go play wizardry 8 and M&M6 and 7 or don't fucking bother
Ever since wiz8 I couldn't find anything more enticing. Maybe dungeon lords, but it also was so buggy, that it took a few years to patch a map in.
>>337899454
IMO it's not *mindnumbingly* shallow, but the game could definitely use a bit more complexity and variety. At least it's not that long. I hear people completing it in 40 hours or so. I'm still just 32 hours in, stuck at the underwater dungeon.
>>337917581
>Loving Wiz8.
>Find a steel bridge with broken controls.
>Find some computer terminals installed into stone walls of an ancient monastery.
>Get to the town.
>Their guards are walking around with maces yet they have a spaceport and a bank with steel vaults.
Fucking retarded and by extension, fucking dropped.
Fall of the dungeon guardians, nigga. Looks just like Grim Rock but os more of an rpg and less of a puzzle game
>>337918905
Is it a fully released game, as in not early access or whatever?
>>337919103
Why don't go fucking check it yourself, you lazy ass? You know that you can search for tags on Steam, so you dont have to be spoonfed by others? Fuck you
>>337919367
>>337918229
That's just the wizardry theme it's kinda weird but unique i guess
>>337918905
>>337897729
>>337919103
this game is pretty damn good, it seems like a grimrock clone but its heavily focused on combat which is similar to mmo systems with cooldowns it's also realtime but with a pause so there can be some strategy involved
it also has custom portraits which is always a plus
>>337896345
>more combat and less puzzles
This and more loot and less retarded movement system.
>>337919843
>custom portraits
Sign me up.
>>337920692
it's 12 bucks on humble store
>>337913298
>Kitsune Odyssey
How is this not out yet?
>>337896345
dark holes 3
Any day now
* [1.2] "M I C R O - I S S U E S" R E M A I N !!! *
=====================================
… TREMBLE NOW, ROBERT SIROTEK, AS THAT WHICH WAS THOUGHT TO BE EXTINCT LIVES AGAIN! THE DAY OF GLORY APPROACHES WHEN THE HEAVENS WILL PART WITH THE SOUND OF TRUMPETS AND THE GOLDEN BABY WILL DESCEND ON A CHARIOT BEARING THE FRUITS OF MASSIVE INCLINE! (SHOULD BE READ IN ZSASZ'S VOICE FROM ARKHAM CITY)
>>337902394
>kill chicken
>drops 2 chicken legs
What the fuck is this?
>>337898283
It's much better than you'd think, really good open world single character dungeon crawler with deep and impact full skill and crafting systems
>>337922019
Kill it with a fireball and it'll drop roast chicken legs instead.
>>337922392
You wouldn't lie to me on the internet, would you?
>>337898283
It's way better than it has any right to be for a phone game
it's also on steam now
>>337922498
it's true, works also for pigs
you can also bake bread (combine flour and water for dough, then drop it near a fire)
>alt-f4
>uninstall
>never actually finish the game
Worst final boss in the history of forever.
>>337922815
>being this casual
>>337913348
How much content does it have and how is the development going?
>>337922815
>fighter who can dual wield
>chug in bear potion
>chug in speed potion
>chug in defense potion
>chug in rage potion
>cast resistance with mage
>keep a stack of 10 health potions
>just attack with fighter and let the rest of the party die
>dual maul the faggot into pieces
Its not that hard
>>337922989
I could probably find some secluded corner and facetank him while chugging potions, but it was so fucking time consuming and unsatisfying that I gave up. 0% challenge 100% tedium.
>>337923218
it took me way too long to figure out you have to take it apart...
>>337923296
Honestly Exanima is better as an arena fighter than a dungeon crawler.
>>337900313
A good anime handheld game is SMT:Strange Journey on the DS.
Any of the SMT games are pretty good dungeon crawlers.
>>337923447
>allowing for uneven XP, even at the end of the game
>>337902394
I tried pirating this game twice and couldn't get it to work, I'll just pull the trigger and buy it, I'm actually curious since so many people are saying it's THAT good.
>>337902740
And a fucking huge update waiting for you if you buy retail like I did.
Never really committed to MMX, is it worth playing through? I liked how it gave melee classes something to do other than just attack.
>>337923668
got arx libertatis? it's the only way to play the game
>>337923736
I don't think I have, is it some kind of patcher?
>>337923736
libertatis is a sourceport you just need that and vsnyc on otherwise the gesture casting will fuck up a lot
who /ultimaunderworld/ here?
>>337913298
Jesus Christ another shitty vagina crawler for vita? God
>>337924749
Nah, this shitty vagina crawler is for Steam.
The company making it has, up to this point, only made porn VNsand a cookie clickers knock-off.
>>337924194
its like a big patch to make it run nice on modern systems, also fixes bugs'n'shit
arx-libertatis.org/
How are the etrian odyssey games?
>>337927059
yeah they are ok if a bit tedious like most japanese rpgs
