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Why do some people still play at 1080p when 2k & 4k are available?
>>337870171
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
rent>pixels
>>337870171
The human eye can't detect anything above 1080p
>>337870171
>being 4k pleb
>not glorious 8k master race.
Why do you autists obsess over stupid numbers and shitpost about the numbers instead of playing games
Because there isn't a single GPU on the market that can be max 4k 60 FPS.
Will everybody switch over to 4k? Eventually. Right now? Fucking idiotic.
Because games aren't made for 2 and 4k cocksucker
>>337870171
I play most games that I play at 4k, some at 1600p, some at 1440p, some at 1080p.
I play DMC4 and Valkyria Chronicles at 5k.
>>337870483
lol
>>337870714
how bic is ur dic tho
>>337870171
no games are making 4k textures
>>337870714
1440p or 4k?
Which is better
>>337870714
Whoa dude, those are some hard-hitting games you've got there; a PS3 port and quite possibly the greatest PC port of all time.
Call me when you can run all the latest games at 4k 60FPS and it doesn't cost an arm and a leg and we'll talk.
>>337871041
4k.
>>337871191
Cam you even read man? My PC is 4 years old by the way.
>>337871592
Is there a noticeable difference between 4k and 2k at monitor size?
>>337871682
yes
>>337872061
I have a choice between an ultrawide curved 1440p monitor and a 4k 27 inch monitor
They're both the same price
I should buy the 4k?
>>337872254
I would yeah. ultrawide should be higher than 1440p though?
>>337870171
because monitors are expensive and so are GPUs that can reliably output at those resolutions.
I'll get there eventually.
>>337870270
This that shit isn't even on consumer level yet.
>>337873158
Yes it is
>>337873263
Sure if you work 60+ hours a week with a steady job
I like to live my life thanks .
>>337873346
You can play 4k with the gtx 1080
>>337870171
I just bought a 1080p tv last year, fuck off
>>337870383
Tell that to a women looking at a 4k pic
>of your tiny dick
>>337873465
Are you homeless?
>>337873626
>pay like 1500 for a new tv
>or pay 200 and wait a couple years
>>337873881
You can get a 4k 65 inch curved tv for 1000 now
>>337873971
Why the fuck does it need to be curved? Why would I ever need a tv that oversized?
>>337870171
I'm skeptical that the image fidelity improvement is worth the cost
you need to have top of the line hardware to get 60 fps at resolutions above 1080p
>>337870353
Who the fuck rents? You just giving your money away?
![tv+lcd+de+bolso+casio+tv+970+c+nota+fiscal+sao+paulo+sp+brasil__663C19_1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/2mlpPAT.jpg "tv+lcd+de+bolso+casio+tv+970+c+nota+fiscal+sao+paulo+sp+brasil__663C19_1[1].jpg")
>>337874216
Alright
have fun with your 360p portable tv my friend
I prefer more 1080p at 144Hz to 4k at 60.
If I wanted 4k at 144 I'd be out of a lot of money
>>337874314
>60 fps
do you live in the stone age where 60 fps is still acceptable?
>>337874465
4k at 144 doesn't exist
Why the FUCK is 1440p so expensive still? 1440p is ~77% more pixels than 1080p, yet you can get 1080p monitors for $100 new, while the cheapest 1440p monitor I could find is $260. That's 160% more cost for 77% more pixels.
>>337874406
>oy vey, get with the times goy, fork over your paycheck for a bigger tv, wouldn't want your friends to call you out now would we?
>>337874504
my monitors are only 60 hz unfortunately
no job and no $ can't upgrade to a 144 hz monitor
>>337870171
Diminishing returns you nigger.
The difference between resolutions becomes more subtle to the human eye.
I wish people would stop bitching about 2K and 4K so devs could but resources into more important things like detail and map sizes.
>>337874567
Yeah that seems like it would be a real issue for throughput possibly.
I'm already using a power booster just to have 3 1080p monitors at 144
>>337870171
>UHD is 3840 × 2160
>4K is 4096 × 2160
It's fucking called 4K because it's vertical resolution is over 4 thousand.
FUCK. Why does everyone keep fucking using the terms interchangeably like a bunch of retards?
>>337874587
the more complex the panel the lower the manufacturing yield will be
>tfw 4k IPS monitor with g-sync
>>337875151
>It's fucking called 4K because it's vertical resolution is over 4 thousand.
No, it's called 4k because it's horizontal resolution is over 4000 pixels
5K > anyway
>>337874743
>The difference between resolutions becomes more subtle to the human eye.
A) higher resolutions enable you to use bigger screens at the same pixel density
B) 1080p on 20"+ screens is still nowhere near having a pixel density so high that the human eye can't distinguish increases in pixel density for normal viewing distances for a 20"-30" monitor. Once you get used to really high pixel densities, 1080p starts to look pretty bad.
That said, the great thing about PC gaming is that you can choose between higher resolutions or more detail on a lower resolution so we can both get what we want.
>>337870171
If it ain't broke, don't throw it out and pay thousands of dollars
>>337875151
becuase nobody gives a shit just like how nobody cares about differences between KiB vs KB vs Kb
it's close enough
>>337873429
>paying for a 1080 ($580) and a 4k monitor
that's like the price of a fucking singular pc. There aren't even good consumer-tier 4k monitors yet.
>last gen defined by vertical resolution
>next gen defined by horizontal resolution
literally fucking retarded
>>337875415
But devs have to design games around performance, so they may have to end up cutting/downgrading things just so they can get good performance.
> higher resolutions enable you to use bigger screens at the same pixel density
That's a good point
>1080p on 20"+ screens is still nowhere near having a pixel density so high that the human eye can't distinguish increases in pixel density for normal viewing distances for a 20"-30" monitor
It's not that they can't distinguish it, it's that the amount of difference they see isn't enough to justify the cost of having to jump up to that resolution.
I won't upgrade until they day it's less than 200 to get a decent 4k monitor and a gpu that can run 4k is less than 400 bucs
Or until I get to sit down with a 1080p and a 4k monitor, the same size, running the same game at the same fps
Because it sure as hell doesn't matter for 90% of content on tv's right now
>>337870171
because i talked shit to the games genie once and he cursed me to forever use a crt moniter from 1996 for anything computing related.
>>337870171
Waiting for Polaris cards
>all these plebs that think 4k is something special
>tfw play at 150k
>>337875936
>amd
>>337870171
I am a graphics and performance retard
I can't tell differences between FPS and resolutions. I just know bigger resolution means bigger image, which i don't give a shit about. My brain can't bring itself to appreciate any of that shit so I just play the games.
I'm poor and I already have 2 1080p monitors
1440/144 seems like the real godmode desu anyway
>>337875873
>I won't upgrade until they day it's less than 200 to get a decent 4k monitor and a gpu that can run 4k is less than 400 bucs
Most 1440p and 144hz are still well-over $200. 4k ain't going under 200 for a long time. On top of that there aren't any GPUs that can handle 4k well at high settings.
because I have a 770
>>337874567
4k at 120 exists
>>337875936
Polaris isn't even intended for 4k. It's intended to give the performance of AMD's current cards for a lot cheaper and more power efficient.
>>337876067
>I just know bigger resolution means bigger image
RETARD ALERT
i play at 900p, 2007 monitor here
at least i get more fps
>>337870171
Why do some people play at less than 1080p when 1080p is available?
>>337870171
I play all my games at 4k30fps
Nothing good enough has come out to warrant upgrading to cards with HDMI 2.0
>tfw bought an $80 didgerydollar cable for no reason
>>337870171
I play 1440p right now and it's pretty good. I kinda want to upgrade to 4k in 2 years or so but I've heard the scaling on a lot of games is really shitty so if you play 4k all the UI elements will be small as fuck.
>>337876234
Isn't that how it works? Tell me cause I literally don't comprehend that shit. People will dish out hundreds of dollaridoos to play something on a bigger screen, fuck that.
Whenever I see new graphics i go "wow" for 3 seconds and then the novelty is gone and the game is always shit. brb playing need for speed undeground on a small screen again
>>337876453
Is 4k worth it
>>337876067
As a console fag I can notice the difference between 720 and 1080. The fact you're posting a pic of that retard makes it clear your brain isn't firing on a cylinders.
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/dell-up3017q-ultrasharp-30-inch-ultra-hd-monitor-that-has-an-an-oled-panel.html
best part is I make this every two weeks (4k) so I'm not wasting my money buying the nicest shit you retards can't afford.
>>337870171
Because a monitor that makes proper use of 4K would be the size of your fucking wall.
1080p is where LCD and plasma TVs begin to plateau. Going further than that is basically dick-wagging.
>>337870487
I have a 1080p monitor because my current GPU has lasted me 6 years and when I buy the 1080 or whatever AMD is calling theirs, my next GPU will last another 6 years.
>>337876478
no, that's not what it fucking means. kill yourself.
>>337876478
It's resoution, idiot. Resolution = image size, not screen size.
It's more PPI, which means a clearer image when rendered.
It's still not worth it, but the size of your screen and the size of your resolution are entirely different things.
>>337876569
>OLED on a computer monitor
Enjoy having your task bar burnt in.
Why do some people play at 16:9 when 21:9 is available?
>>337876768
pretty sure every monitor nowadays has pixel shift. so burn in never happens.
>>337876806
gimmick
>>337876632
this, 4k is only good on 50 inch plus tvs
I'm perfectly content with 21 inch monitors for gaming, and why spend extra to get almost nothing out of extra unnecessary pixels that also requires a lot more power to produce
>>337876291
Actually thinking about getting a 900p monitor. I'm building a computer and don't know if I should get a low end card (like GTX 950 or AMD equivalent) and a 900p monitor to hold me over until 4k is more affordable, or if I should just spend the money on a 1440p monitor now and upgrade to 4k at a much later date. Is 900p really that bad? I know that 1600x900 at 19" is roughly the same pixel density as 1920x1080 at 23".
>People this assblasted that someone doesn't lick their screens in pleasure and dish out thousands of dollars just to get le latest meme graphics
Aight famalams, i'll be over here playing videogames in my whatever pixel whatever DPI resolution bullshit small screen
>>337873971
$1000 isn't $200.
>>337876531
I have no idea where this chart comes from but It's been entirely accurate in my experience. I have a 50inch TV that sits around 5ft away from my sofa, and the difference between 1080p and 2160p is night and day. That said, the difference between 1440p and 2160 is more subtle but does still add a lot of detail.
It also depends entirely on your living situation. Presuming you're not scraping form paycheck to paycheck it's bretty cool.
Because my amd card is too incapable of running even 1080p.
>>337876632
I feel the opposite. I can barely notice the difference between a 4k and 1080p 50" TV at a normal viewing distance, but sitting up close like you would to a monitor you can easily notice the increase in pixel density from 1080p to 4k.
>>337876531
>>337877056
Meant to attach this
>>337876760
>Resolution = image size, not screen size.
>I just know bigger resolution means bigger image
?
>Expected to spend months worth of work money on a fucking screen or graphics card
How about no
Can't honestly give two shits about FPS either unless it dips under 20 or something
>>337877105
Woops, meant for >>337876926
>>337870171
because i cant tell the fucking difference nor do i give a flying fuck
>>337876945
900p is lower-resolution than most monitors of the last 15 years.
>>337876945
1440x900 here, heres a screenshot of dark souls with internal resolution raised to 3000x2000 without any mods other than dsfix
>>337877090
I wish AMD wasn't getting their ass kicked so badly.
I was forced to switch away from their CPUs, and now I might have to switch away from their GPUs as well just avoid wasting my money.
It's a bleak future we're headed towards.
4K still doesn't have 144Hz monitors so 1440p is the best right now.
Doesn't seem worthwhile honestly.
Only time i'd go 4k is if VR gets competent enough to buy into and then i'd build a PC that could do 4k as well.
>>337877167
SCREEN SIZE IS THE SIZE OF THE PIXELS, WHICH IS NOT RELATIVE TO THE SIZE OF THE SCREEN.
IF YOU HAVE A 1080P SCREEN THAT IS 27", AND A 20" 4K SCREEN, THE 4K HAS THE SUPERIOR IMAGE, BUT THE 1080P IS A BIGGER SCREEN.
DIFFERENT THINGS
>>337877149
Is this backwards? The optimal viewing distance for 480p on a 20" monitor is at least 8 feet away but up to 20 feet?
>>337877231
Which is why I'm tempted to get it to hold me over until 4k is more affordable. A refurbished 900p monitor is $70 at Newegg. $70 for 2-3 years of use while monitors and graphics cards get more affordable for higher resolutions sounds like a good deal to me IMO. But I might just spend the extra $30 for a 1080p one for now.
>>337877350
>using both an AMD cpu and gpu
shit nigger what are you doing
>>337877350
I thought those R9 cards were supposed to be shitting on Nvidia?
>>337877504
That was a long time ago. Now it's just an AMD GPU.
I don't know what I'm gonna do when it comes time to swap out my 280X.
>>337877483
Just get a 1080p monitor. 900p is obsolete, not just lousy.
>>337877518
They do shit on everything but the 980Ti for a fraction of the price.
>>337877428
>B-BUT GUYS! SCREEN SIZE IS NOT PIXEL SIZE WHICH IS DPI PER SIZE PER 29" 1080P WHICH IS RELATIVE TO THE SIZE OF YOUR DICK PER INCH PER PIXELS
Graphicfags, everyone
>>337877453
You're reading it wrong, it's saying that 8 feet away on a 20" TV you can't can't tell the difference from 480p to 720p and at the far end from 20 feet away you can't tell the difference between a 55" 480p and 720p TV
>>337877453
That is the optimal viewing distance for the level of detail to not look like trash i.e. you'd have to be at least 8ft away for the image quality to be acceptable.
>>337877726
I already said it's not worth it, but whatever your agenda is bro.
A bigger monitor doesn't necessarily mean a bigger resolution. That's literally all I'm saying.
>>337877576
buy a 1070 ;)))
Very simple. I value the frames I can get at 1080p more than the extra resolution.
A setup strong enough to display both 120 FPS and 4k resolution is ridiculously expensive, and I don't th inke ven the top tier consumer hardware can run some games at 4k/120 FPS.
So I pick playable over shiny
>>337877350
They were doing very well competitively until we started seeing more and more gameworks stuff from Nvidia.
Every other game these days seems to have physX or some other Nvidia nonsense, which is eventually going to put AMD out of business unless they find a way to compete outside of performance, because software is gimping them right now.
>>337874371
>Actually making enough money for a bank to give you a loan for a mortage
I wish I was in your shoes.
I make about $2400 a month and doubt I could pay for a mortgage, comfy renting though.
only pay $750 rent
Any 2k monitors in oled for under $300?
>>337877518
Nope. The original 290(x) that were going up again the gtx 900 series cards when they released were so shit amd were forced to release a rebrand of those same cards with much higher clock speeds to compete with a stock 900 series card. They still get destroyed by a measly 200mhz overclock to the 900 series cards though.
The 970 is also cheaper where I live than the 390. I only know one person who owns a 390 and he hates it because it doesn't work with Maya lmao.
>>337877851
My agenda is shitting down your mothers throat
LOL
>Any 2k monitors in oled for under $300?
>>337878042
I review mortgages for a living and you make at least the median for the avg. FHA mortgage
you just have to live in an inexpensive area
>>337877740
Nevermind, that's a different image that guy posted. This is the image most people pass around when it comes to viewing different resolution at different screen sizes at different distances. What one of these 2 images are more accurate I don't know.
>>337878075
>OLED anything
>under 300
good fucking luck bub.
I play my games at 1920*1080 on a 1366*768 TV
come at me
because everything runs like shit regardless
>>337878317
They look about the same the other one is just worded incorrectly.
>>337870270
Fpbp
>>337877968
Yeah. They were making good cards, but between CUDA, PhysX and later Gameworks whatever Nvidia may have lost in comparative hardware performance they made up for in software advantages.
And now it seems like they're winning in hardware performance, too.
>>337870171
My games run faster at 1080p. But now I have a 980Ti I think I might upgrade. I've started using Nvidia's dynamic super resolution on everything anyway.
>>337870171
cause there's no space in my house to put those big ass TVs
I can barely put a 1080p tv on my wall, I can't imagine where the hell would I put a 4K tv
>>337870171
Do u have a 4k monitor?
>>337878557
4k monitor
>>337878265
I live in Maryland and would sooner die than live in a non semi modern coastal suburb
So I doubt I could afford a mortage on my current income.
>2016
>not buying a broken retina Macbook that has an intact screen and turning the screen into a stand alone monitor
I wonder if that's actually easy to do. It's probably the cheapest way to get a high pixel density monitor.
>>337877190
>months of work
Are you Mexican?
>>337877907
This, i have a 980ti and play on 1080p tv because i like having minimum 150fps
>>337879737
human eye can't even see above 24 fps you fucking idiot
>>337879448
>Wanting to play shit on a 12" screen
Is 4k/60hz still the max? From what I've seen bandwidth is still too much of an issue, hell, until fairly recent 4k/24hz was the norm, which is basically unplayable for vidya.
>>337879807
Kek i know its bait but even if you can't seethe difference you can feel it, aim or move a camera in 60fps and below and do the same above 100, feels laggy same as when using vsync
Why cant you fucks realize that not everyone has a high paying OR good paying job or obligations they must commit to?
Buy a luxury or buy a necessity gee I dont fucking know?
>>337879934
15" at 2880x1800 isn't that bad. If you could find a broken 15" rMBP with an intact screen for cheap I'd totally jump on the opportunity to try and turn it into a monitor.
>>337870487
But you're wrong, very very wrong
1440p 144hz monitors are expensive unless you play the lotto on Korean monitors
>>337879528
Maybe he's someone who saves money for important things instead of spending all of it on anime figures and bleeding edge hardware that will be obsolete in 2 years
>>337879957
For monitors 4K / 60Hz is the max, not sure if it's a panel problem or a cable bandwidth problem. Some 4K TVs call themselves 120Hz but it's not it real 120Hz, it's motion interpolation and black frame insertion.
>>337880685
4k monitor obsolete in 3 years
1440p 144/165Hz is the best stuff for games on the market right nowand I have one
When I'm playing a game I don't stop every second, take a screen shot, and post it on reddit. It's a waste of money.
>>337877264
I'm sorry son but whatever you used to do that isn't working, the aliasing gives it away.
>>337881806
You can do this via downscaling anyway. Taking a screenshot at 4k in DSR will produce a 4k image.
Daily reminder to not use the phrase "4k"
>horizontal resolution
>rounding to the nearest thousand
>There are 4K monitors on the market that are shitty TN
Why would someone buy that shit? If you're going to spent all that money you might as well get the good colors and contrast of IPS. It's not like you're going over 60Hz at 4K.
>>337870461
Because /v/ hates games.
>>337870461
Because you can't play games when the numbers are fucking terrible >>337877090
>>337870714
Wow...playing old ass games with 4K
>>337873971
>>337874406
enjoy frying your eyeballs out
