Stellaris has been out for a week now. What do you guys think of it?
I think it's an okay game right now, potential is there but it's lacking basic features
>Construction ships can't auto build
>Science ships can't auto survey
>Can't upgrade every single building on a planet
>Too much irrelevant micromanaging in early game
>No map modes
>Religion isn't really important
>Corvettes are OP
>No way to see the casualties in a battle
>Blobbing is easy because the AI isn't smart enough to band together to stop the player
>Mid-late game is pretty boring because of the snowball effect
>Food doesn't do anything
>No slavery
>What happens to your leaders has almost zero impact on the game
>Your type of government doesn't really mean anything
>Your empire will always have perfect internal stability
>>337841238
>No slavery
I meant, "no slave trade"
Game is only good with human multiplayer.
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vgstellaris
This asshole has been insulting me every 5 or so years all because he's butthurt that I'm literally all around him but I can't kill him because he's allied to like 5 god damned nations. Fuck this asshole.
Bad combat system
Bad diplomacy
Bad, cheating A.I.
Gets boring fast
Sucks ass
>>337842940
Forgot pic.
>Stellaris has been out for a week now. What do you guys think of it?
No endgame content. Stellaris has the exact same problem as Endless Space; once the initial exploration phase wears off and borders get set up you might as well throw all you think about your race out of the window because there's nothing to do in the game apart from military conquest, even if you're playing a xenophile pacifist. This wouldn't be so bad if the game had actual diplomacy and domestic politics that weren't shallow as fuck.
Militaristic expansion itself is extremely slow due to limits of warscore system, not to mention integration of whole empires takes 50 fucking in-game years and you can only do it to one empire at a time even if you had extra influence to spare. After the exploration phase is over and you've become a local major power (all your neighbors are Inferior / Pathetic and possibly vassalized) most of your game time will be spent doing nothing but inflating your deathstack and waiting for researches to complete, hoping that at some point a galactic crisis triggers so there's actually something to do.
Compared to previous Paradox games there aren't that many roleplaying opportunities either, because events disappear almost completely after the exploration phase is over.
What comes to actual battles, empire management and other gameplay mechanics; it's basically just a more accessible, more shallow Distant Worlds.
>>337841238
It's pretty good now, and will only get better in due time like most Paradox games.
I'm in a bit of a pickle on my current game though..
>game beginning, see tech to upgrade from tier 1 fission cores on spacecraft.
>meh, I need Torpedoes first.
500 years later
>have defeated 2 other Empires and now The Scourge is invading my backside
>everything is still powered by tier 1 Fission cores
>the entire Battleship lower fittings is Fission cores and one small advanced shield.
>no armor technology has appeared either.
>my Admirals face when we keep sending the Fleet shit to get the heavy lifting done.
They need to remove sectors and add different methods of automation if they want this game to succeed in the long run.
How do I uplift a race? Found another Sol and the earth is swarmed with roaches, I want to integrate them.
Need super science shit like dyson spheres and planet destruction devices (coming as DLC), and yeah having auto survey and auto building would be great.
>>337843835
that or make sectors not fucking shitty
>>337844105
you need to research the technology that allows you to uplift
>fotm as fuck
>constant viral marketing on front page of /v/
>mods still havent banned these shills
>/vg/ made specifically for this reason
>shills still feel the direct need to viral their shitty fotm strategy game on front page every hour on the hour
>>337843027
Update.
Took out my anger on another small empire that has no alliances.
It's k though because he didn't like me either. Motherfucker shouldn't have been talkin' shit.
Is there any reason to play a pacifist empire if the only victory conditions are conquest and domination?
It makes sense in Civ because that game has science and culture victories but this game doesn't.
>>337844464
Yes I have it, but how do I use it?
>>337844732
Not really. I'm struggling to finish my pacifist game currently, you just run out of stuff to do when everything is colonized. I'm just bored.
>>337844732
>Is there any reason to play a pacifist empire
No, and it's not just because of victory conditions. After all free space gets colonized there is literally nothing to do in Stellaris apart from military conquest, unless you like twiddling you thumbs around while waiting for research to finish. After exploration is over even the empire roleplay events dry to nothingness.
Warp, Hyperspace or Wormhole travel?
>>337845805
Wormhole because warp is versatile but fucking slown and hypersoace is along lanes and fast.
>>337843668
Having research alternatives is a godsend, I never have trouble getting the options to get techs I want. My only complaint is that eventually my tech clogs up with obsolete stuff, like when I'm getting T4 advanced plasma and industry is still telling me I need to discover the wonders of T1 nuclear missiles.
It's not so bad because by that time T1 techs are cheap enough to complete in a few months, but they seem to clog up space on my tech lists.
>>337844580
>talking about new video games is shilling
>>337845805
Wormhole > Warp. Never use Hyperspace Lanes unless you force everyone to use it, then its okay/fun.
>>337841238
>Corvettes are OP
I must be doing something wrong because mine drop like flies and so does the enemy's. After a while only the big boys are left.
Did anyone get the Nova version? Have you made your glorious spider overlords yet?
>>337845805
Warp is the easiest and best, imo. Might require an expensive module, but you have a pretty wide range of planets to jump from and and chase targets pretty easy too.
Wormhole is ok too, it does tie you to wormhole stations which need defense, but it's pretty quick and great for defensive play. Also, your ships get a little extra power for not needing an upgraded drive.
Hyperlane is pretty bad for being inflexible, a lot of times you'll find your fleet outmaneuvered by opponents and be forced to split into smaller ones to engage them. Works fine on the offensive though since it's pretty quick to leave the system and most of the times you're going to hop to all of them sequentially anyway.
>>337846616
Go to the general on >>>/vg/ and download the portraits yourself friend
>>337841238
>What do you guys think of it?
It's a standard Paradox release: beta version at full price. It'll be okay in two years when we have $300 worth of DLC to make the game actually playable.
I have given up on this game until they fix warscore. I will not go to war with the same nation 6 times to get control of their planets, and I will not wait 100 fucking years to integrate a vassal state.
>>337847996
>100 fucking years
Jesus, it goes even higher than 50 years with bigger vassals? Bravo Paradox, you created a game where there's nothing to do but military expansion while actively making it as slow as possible.
>>337845805
Hyperspace. Gotta explore entire galaxy before engine even settles their first colony.
>>337848847
>autocorrecting "anyone" into "engine"
Sasuga, android-chan.
I like the random tech idea, but it can fuck you.
I've got tech 3 torpedoes, the highest level shields, crystal armor, psi-computers
And the game refuses to give me tech 2 reactors, so I can't fit jack shit on my ships.
The whole game is filled with so many little broken bits that I think I'm just going to go back to Distant Worlds
>>337846274
That's the thing, I think the game is punishing me for not doing it the first time it popped up.. I have a 5 on the research alternatives, but power core & armor techs haven't reappeared since their first pass.
So many casualties just because I didn't say yes...
>>337841238
Uplifting and Technological Enlightment are my favourite features right now. My technocratic space penguins rule those primitives like gods.
>play as a fanatic materialist
>get robot tech later than battleships
Should I kill fallen empires before starting a robot uprising or after? I'm so fucking bored.
>>337844925
uplift only works on primitive races BEFORE a certain point of development. If they are already into the iron age or whatever, they are too far developed for it.
The game is barebones as can be. I think its funny they don't let you automate the science and construction vessels because otherwise the game would be very boring. This game needs 300 dollars worth of dlc to save it or cool mods like star wars, star trek, unversal gundam stuff
Literally what the fuck am I supposed to do now though?
Both of the nations right of me are my vassals soon-to-be-intergrated states and
On the top right and top left of my boarders I have two fucking fallen empires breathing down my neck so I can't expand that way.
The people in front of me have joined a massive alliance/federation so if I go to war with even one of them I'm effectively fighting half of the god damned galaxy at once and the best part is that if you look to the opposite side of the galaxy I'm on you can see a massive nation forming and it's destroying anything it touches. I don't know how i'm going to stop that shit if it starts warring with the alliance.
>>337846346
>>337846346
>talking about video games
>on /v/
Fucking shills get off my board, reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>337851184
Really dropping the ball on those pics today.
>>337841238
It feels like a third of a game
>>337851240
The cancer of /v/ is all the waifu fags that make threads to jerk off 2.
>>337850214
I'm pretty sure it is bugged. I'm having the same problem as you. I used the techweights phys console command and tech 2 reactors are BY FAR the highest weighted, but after using techupdate 100+ times I haven't gotten it to pop up a single time.
It's broken.
>>337841238
Jesus that is nuts.
What do you mean corvettes are OP?
>>337850994
>Gundam stuff
That would be really fun to play with. Customizable giant mech units in space vs other similar units, energy/crystal beings, etc.
Maybe it'd be a good mod idea.
>>337851527
he's talking about how small ships have more evasion, and stacking evasion with good engines makes them nearly impossible to hit.
Too easy right now
How do you feel about the upcoming patch changes?
Serious question, how similar is this to Sins of a solar empire? That's one of my favorite games.
>>337851927
Could be pretty good. Let's just hope they actually pull through
>>337852107
it's like a terrible economy oriented saucer with hardcounters everywhere
>>337851514
Damn... just goes to show, don't say no to the necessities.
Now.. do I restart or just keep throwing under prepared fleets to their doom for my glorious underpowered Empire?
>>337851772
Huh, I have only gotten to my third engine upgrade so I haven't been able to test them on corvettes so much.
>>337851927
Almost everything mentioned should of been in the base game. This is my first Paradox game so I didn't think that it would be lacking so much.
>>337852598
I'm restarting
Luckily the first 10 or so hours of the game are the most fun, so I'm alright with that
I feel retarded, but how do i install mods in a pirated version?
>>337853152
Yup.
May the RNG gods smile upon you.
>>337853320
documents/paradox/stellaris make a mods folder and put them there
nice "game"
>>337841238
>>Religion isn't really important
That's an odd way of saying that there is no religion feature in the game.
>>337853452
I already did that and only white names and potraits mods seem to work, any other refuses to appear in the list.
>>337853760
do they have a .mod file?
>>337853812
descriptor.mod
What can I do if the only way out of my arm of the galaxy is blocked by an empire that hates me for "border tension"? I tried declaring war but the AI wipes me out with much less fleet power, I don't know what to do.
> Made fleet of 50 chevies, 20 DD's, 10 CA's and 3 BB's
> Concentrating on evasion and armour
> Unbidden spawned, the fleet arrived first
> First month of battle
> 48, 20, 0, 3
Why are cruisers made out of shit?
>>337854117
This is why you don't use hyperlanes
>>337854201
Too big to dodge, too weak to tank
>>337854348
Is there any reason to make them? Like anti rocket platforms or something?
>>337854247
I'm no using hyperlanes, I use warp but it's a spiral galaxy. I took over my entire arm of the galaxy, created stations in every system, etc. so there's nothing left for me to do in that part of space.
does it make any sense to attack early in the game? Some times I come against pacifist races early on and usually I have a military backround, is it possible to crush someone early so they don't expand near you?
Since my last civ was a complete failure I started from scratch and made sure to expand slowly this time.
I wanted to crush and enslave the surrounding races before they got big but my neighbor keeps staying just barely ahead of me in military tech.
I still don't really understand how weaponry works.
>>337854665
Alliance is the key.
>>337854614
Stop bein a bitch nigga and shank him then
>>337854665
They don't expand when they're the dirt. They get expanded on.
Do it.
>>337854907
I sent in a 12K fleet, got rekt by his 7K. And he had more coming to destroy my shipyards. I don't know what to do, I can either spend another hour waiting for all my shipyards to upgrade so I can build another fleet or I can start a new game and do all the boring shit all over again to get to late game tech.
The randomized tech is pissing me off, they need to do something about that. I have 27 planets to manage and have only gotten two tile block removers researched.
Also my last race foundthe tree of life and got immortalitywithin the first couple of years. This time I haven't seen anything even remotely like it, so they just keep dying at 60+.
>>337854851
Tech doesn't matter. Just build shitton of corvette and destroyers and make them nimble. Add an healing BB if you can. Then counter their type of defense. If they use shields, spam torpedoes, if they are armoured, spam plasma.
>>337854870
why? what if im a xenophobe?
>decadent
>collectivist
>still upset over slaves
por que?
What do I do to make a federation? I have a relatively happy alliance of four, but all of them absolutely refuse to become federation.
>>337841238
>everyone hates me cause am a xenphobic bigot
>but they are totally cool with me having slaves
>not a single race that is xenophobe like me
>relgion is not important
>type of goverment isnt either
>>337852607
>should of been
>should of
This is how I know you're American.
>>337854665
Yeah, corvette rushes are very easy to execute if you have the right tech. Shields are gods in the early game and point defences let you beat a rocket using fleet twice your size.
>>337855756
>xenophobes don't like xenos
wew lad
>>337855498
I consumed first few empires by merging two alliances in confederation (I left original alliance and joined another, then my xenon companions followed my lead). Confederation kicks ass and makes game boring.
If you are nazi, just invade them while they are weak and then enslave them, they won't make any factions if you do it fast. Purging is an option when you get stronger.
>>337855657
Ethics divergence is a bit weird, even if you try to keep your pops from diverging, there's always a bunch of assholes who lose the collectivist ethos.
And if they're merely collectivists, not fanatics, they still get a bit upset, unless they're also xenophobic and you're enslaving aliens.
>>337855318
How?
>>337856226
Ok
What advantages does this game have over say, distant worlds and gal civ 2 and 3? Why play this over those three?
>>337855318
What weaponry does he have? Learn what each weapon does and learn to counter them, it isn't just about having bigger numbers on your fleet.
Also learn to manage your fleet composition, a well structured fleet needs loads of corvettes to soak up fire and brawl while big dick ships dish out damage from the back. Also pay attention to the combat AIs you install on them, having your entire fleet on defensive makes them go full retard.
QUESTION FOR PROS
I'm trying to make a really diverse empire full of different races. That way I can settle on all kinds of planets without terraforming which takes millions of fucking years.
So far I have a tundra race, a desert race, a tropical race (my own) and an ice race. However some of them are pissed that they can't be leaders despite being free members of my empire. I have xeno leadership, everything from policies to my research tells me I should be able to have any of the races in my empire lead.
Yet it just doesn't happen. The only choice of leaders I get is from my own race, and when there's an election (indirect democracy) only ONE only other race makes a bid, and those are the desert dwelling fuckers who are in different political factions than mine.
Over a hundred years later and those shitheads are still begging for independence and keep trying to get elected on that promise.
Why can't I get governors, scientists and similar from any of the other races I have? They even have entire planets dedicated only to them.
>>337855334
Every pop you have increases the time you need to research something, so be aware of that while spamming colonies.
>>337841238
PLS BUY STELLARIS
>tfw space opera is my favorite shit ever
>this game is crack cocaine for me
>there is no good space opera tabletop
FUCK. I JUST WANT TO PLAY A TABLETOP RPG ABOUT EXPLORING SPACE WITH MY FRIENDS.
>Oh boy great start
>Mass Extinction
Fucking
>>337854582
They're generally my "supporting" ships, give them only the longest range weapons so they stay out of the heavy fight.. like mini Battleships.
>>337855657
The key is to get the Transcendent Empire government
>>337856775
Make your dudes happy nigga, collectivism deals with factions by eliminating ethnic divergence and individualists need to build supermarkets and zoos and shit. If your dudes are happy then they won't give a fuck about factions even if their ethics are different.
>>337856775
Elect that xeno. Everybody becomes happier, his faction is reduced rapidly. Right now I have xeno president and scientist, which is 2/15 leaders.
>>337856775
It's mostly random, as far as I could tell. I once uplifted and integrated a race.. And they supplanted my primary race in every leader role I tried to recruit. Everything.
In the end, if you want a solution for that, propaganda campaigns and social welfare programs are the only way, I think.
>>337856976
i dont know how good it really is but have you checked out traveler 5?
I feel like Sins of a Solar Empire is just better
>>337857306
Heard of it. I've looked into it before but I forgot my verdict. Looking at it again, it seems Traveler 5 is hot trash, but Mongoose Traveler is good. I'll look into that again, thanks anon.
I've also looked into Rogue Trader, but 40k is not the type of setting I'd be looking for. Mechanically I found it alright.
>>337857496
They're trying to do different things, bro
>>337857165
I'm thinking about adding them shields and point defense so they act like a meatshield for BB's. For some reason enemy attacks cruisers first, even when they are far from swarm-fight.
>>337857171
Btw how to change government type?
>>337857732
You didn't have shields on your cruisers before that?
>>337857871
The icon on your government page is clickable
It took me a long time to figure this out
>>337857496
Completely different games.
Sins is an RTS that borrows a 4X framework
Stellaris is a 4X that borrows the Grand Strategy framework.
Both devolve into smushing giant ship bobs into each other and hoping you picked the right fleet composition.
Plus Sins uses archaic architecture that only uses 1 CPU core, so is guaranteed to turn into a slideshow by mid-game, not matter how strong your PC.
I say this as a big Sins fan.
>>337857226
>>337857203
>>337857197
It's like this:
I have all these guys in my empire
Big yak fucks
Bird men (my race)
Hovering gas bladders
Lizard men
Sentient robots in servitude
And two other races that have only just been uplifted and now have their own empires as my vassals.
But the gas bladder assholes, I fought them bitterly for years and finally took their shit. Three of their planets are in my possession and I had to beat down a violent rebellion. These days roughly half of them are deeply unhappy, the rest are fine. The ones that are pissed off are all xenophobes while the rest have lost that trait somehow.
All three planets they live on have these rebels, and they each have a party demanding freedom. And they are the ONLY ONES who try to become president. Not the yaks, not the lizards, not even the robots. Only the fuckers who want to leave. I have xeno leadership, I changed my policy so anyone can become a leader and none of them even try. I feel like I've done something wrong somewhere.
The lizard men should be all rights be right up there with me, they came from the inside of the planet I started on. They thought the world above was a myth and when they bored through the crust into what they believed was nothingness was there, I accepted them and made them my equals but they still don't give a fuck about my politics.
Don't get it.
>>337857871
Click on the top left button, then on the icon of your government type. You can spend 250 influence and switch to any government type your ethics allow. After researching a mid-game tech with a name that I forgot you can choose an improved version of your initial government choice.
>>337857998
Stellaris has a pretty shit diplomacy compared to SoaSE
>>337857732
>point defense
Based on fleet formation, your cruisers will be stuck in back for most of the fight and never get a chance to get close enough to use the PD.
You should have dedicated PD Corvettes to take out missiles and torpedoes on the front lines.
If you use cruisers at all, give them Large, long-range weapons so they can fire from the back and attack the other larger ship classes that are giving the other fleet buffs
>>337857918
No, they had like 2500 hp (red crystal plating) and 40% armor. Haven't installed them on any ship, cause they are waste of energy and space when you want big guns. And in former models of cruisers, where I had my shields on, the result was just the same, if not worse.
>>337858069
Then get to work comrade, those reactionary elements of primitive societies won't purge themselves.
>>337851927
>More war goals: Humiliate
>>337858141
Diplomacy features that came out of a $10-15 DLC.
When you compare both games at launch, Stellaris is much more robust with vassals/protectorates and the Federation system.
>>337858249
Not the guy who you are replying to, but that is pretty good info.
>>337858069
That sounds odd,out of all of your xeno races which one has the highest population?
>>337858625
And that's kinda my main gripe. It feels lacking and unfinished when compared to existing stuff. Maybe i'll check it out again when they release an exp pack or whatever
>>337858069
I had lizards that I fought tree times. Their original government has -668 relations with me. I possess two of their planets. The are xenophobic too. Then I made one of them a president and their faction wore off.
>>337858637
My birds have the most, the gas bladders the second most, then the reptiles, then the yaks. The robots are on most planets doing menial tasks.
I wish I could remove the gas bladders who are unhappy, just let the fucks migrate anywhere else, but my policies forbid me to purge and I try to be a good guy.
>>337850994
I could see space colonies
Build them with a construction ship, come out with like a small 1x3 tile world with no inherent resources
You can drop them on planets and it gives an event like the asteroid where if they aren't destroyed before collides it creates blocker tiles and kills pops on the planet also any pops living on the colony are killed as well.
>>337843835
Or just remove the core planet limit for fuck sake, I can easily micro 30 planets and more.
Also anyone has found any doomsday weapons? Or it's just bs when you get these events? mine led to nothing in 30 hours of playing.
>found a size 25 world
>it's arctic
>>337859009
>later when 75% of the system's population has been eradicated ....
>>337858637
One other thing to note is that you're supposed to be able to counteract this by using the Aggressive ship AI in your large ships, vs. the Defensive AI which actually is supposed to make them hang back, but in my experience it doesn't help.
I've had the best luck turning my Cruisers and Battleships into snipers that take out the buff-giving Battleships, with very large mixed groups of corvettes and destroyers using various specialized loadouts (30 laser-focus, 15 torpedo-focus, 15 PD-focus, etc.). Then I just adjust the ratios to counter whatever my enemy's using, rather than fiddling with the designs.
OK how the fuck do you beat frigate spam without doing it yourself. I want a nice fleet composition but every time I try doing that i get plowed by frigate blobs.
>>337858970
But purging them is a good thing, you are doing it prserve you society and empire. Enemy acting from within your border deserves no more mercy than an enemy outside of them.
>>337859140
>not being an arctic race
>>337859209
So it can be smart to make torpedo boats and other extremely specialized ships. I wasn't sure if it would be as useful as it is in MOO2.
>>337859343
>not tundra masterrace
Extremely underwhelming species creation system. I can't be blue space elves for example because the only human model allows you to be black, white or azn. I normally mod my games to suit my needs but not sure how much a pain in the ass these portraits are to mod since they are animated. So far not seeing a reason to play this over Distant Worlds except for the fact that its in 3d.
Working on a mod.
The idea is that it will let you send a colony ship of your choosing off into deep space and reappear randomly on the map near a suitable planet, it no longer under your control and you will have no idea where it went to. It will colonize and grow or be defeated, there's no telling.
If you ever manage to interact with the empire it spawned, you will get the option to ally with them regardless of your ethos and policies.
I probably won't finish it but that's the idea behind it. Someone else is just going to do it better anyway I bet.
>>337859250
> swarm missiles
> arc discharge or something like that
There are some AoD weps in game, u know?
>>337850994
I want more types of FTL travel
>>337859462
Good news for you anon, animated portraits are piss easy to make. Check the dev diary about it.
>make race using human portrait
>don't actually want to play as humans, just something that looks like them
>can't change skin color
>start up game, different characters in empire are black or asian or shit
Shit game.
>invited join alliance with big faction
>they immediately go to war with alliance of the next three biggest factions
Th-thanks for the invite, Molark.
>>337859517
well you see its a bit hard getting that far when you steamroll me with a 2k power fleet vs my 2.5k power fleet EVERY FUCKING TIME.
and its not like i bring large weapons to the fights. A few mediums at most, the rest rapid fire and or small weapons which theoretically should be effective vs this shit.
>>337859569
It would be cool to have full that kicks your science ship into random system, like in hitchhikers guide.
>>337859654
>play as human
>why am I human?
>>337859462
You can easily create your own races, and use humans as the basis.
I wish there was an option to create new races by combining DNA of ones in your empire.
For example, take a bestial mammalian and a human. The result could be a large, strong and hairy human suited to live on tundra planets.
DNA tailoring. It would mean having to morph portraits though and nobody would ever make that much effort.
>>337859140
>>337859343
>>337859419
Honestly the whole habitability thing becomes pointless once you get gene modding.
Just drop one of your pops on a planet with 20% habitability or what not doesn't matter if it's by a colony ship or just resetting them to it just so long as it's like 1 or 2 pops. Then you gene mod them and don't fuck with anything else and limit the modification to just that planet, should take like a month and bam suddenly you have people adapted to that planet.
In less than a year you can have specialized versions of your race for each planet type rendering the whole terraforming system and everything else regarding habitability pointless.
>>337859654
>not modding all the blacks out
>>337859250
Autocannons brrrting everything in your way. Faster a weapon shoots the better it is against corvettes. So many people get rekt by them because their logic when making ships is bigger gun = better gun, even though it isn't the case.
>>337841238
It's shit but i keep playing it.
It will be good eventually.
Then shit again once it has so much dlc it's a bloated mess
>>337859693
Practically they miss. You gonna evade if you don't have big guns. Also, healer BB best BB.
>start as a human faction
>leader is a black woman named N'bongo-something
>all my scientists are black
>recruit a general
>black or asian woman to choose from
>finally see a white man under available admirals
>his name is Vladimir Hussein
What the fuck.
>>337860005
BB?
>>337859907
And with randomized tech, you can play for hundreds of years and never get gene tailoring!
>>337859927
>modding them out
>Not making them a different race so you can trully go full /pol/
>>337859686
>be bored in mid game
>randomly notice that a guy on the other side of the galaxy is up for an alliance
>another dude instantly asks for a membership, he's pretty far away too
>they constantly vote to start wars with their neighbours and don't mind helping me out when I wanna conquer mine
At least I got something to do.
>>337859806
I want to play as a race that looks similiar to humans, but with a different skin tone. Instead I have to be earthling humans, or fucking furry shit like bat or cat people, or retarded shit like walking mushrooms.
>>337859907
>In less than a year you can have specialized versions of your race for each planet type rendering the whole terraforming system and everything else regarding habitability pointless.
Gene modding your own race is *supposed* to cause all kinds of friction, including the formation of factions and various colony events. However, those mechanics are too passive right now or just plain missing, so you can get away with it without consequences.
Expect this to get nerfed eventually.
>>337859009
Kinetic kill weapons when
>build with a construction ship (high construction cost)
>target at a planet
>variable damage to a planet ranging from eliminating population and creating a desert/tundra to shattering the worlds mantle and creating a lava world or completely shattering it and creating asteroids (low chance of sending them off to another world in the galaxy when this happens)
>wipes out civilization influence in the area
>can be sent secretly without a declaration of war
>if ships of any empire stumble upon you building one you get a massive diplomatic penalty with every race you've met (using weapons of mass destruction for terrorist purposes doesn't go down well)
>can be researched from debris (of the planet or the shot down weapon) to work out the point of origin; in some cases allowing false flag operations on another empire
>low chance based on empire with ethic change modifier for the construction ship to rebel and rat you out
>>337860110
Battleship. You will get there eventually.
>>337860083
>Vladimir Hussein
my sides
>>337859654
I just broke humans off from mammalian and separated out the phenotypes as well as keeping the default with them all mixed together in there.
>>337860419
downloadfor pirateswhen?
>>337860313
>have cruisers
>haven't seen any level 2 weapons or shielding tech yet
>getting non-stop phyrric victories in a war I started because the AI has level 3 shields and level 2 weapons
>only barely keeping up because my mineral stockpile and income is insane
>>337860083
Svierge
Ja
>>337859250
The biggest problem you're probably having is you're using large guns. Large guns come with an accuracy penalty and corvettes have naturally high evade rates meaning you're accuracy rate is probably somewhere in the 20% range.
Just pump out battleships loaded to the brim with small guns and you'll crush them every time.
So, on a colonisable world I got an event saying there was a vast intelligent lifeform living in the ocean. I contacted it and through telepathy it invited me to colonise the world. Is this a good idea? Apparently it's called "The Ancient One" which is more than a little ominous
>>337841238
Food isn't useless you fuck, your people will starve without it
>>337860462
How do I upload my mods?
>>337860606
Seems like you are having fun paradox style.
>>337859798
>FTL than works similar to warp, with less energy cost but can have malfunctions with random results (warped to the other side of the galaxy, blow up, ship taken out by demons, ship duplicated, etc)
And also
>Stargate system: have to send slow ships first, but once you deploy the gate is instant movement between connected system
>>337860742
Exterminatus that shit
>>337860742
Purge it.
>>337860897
>>Stargate system: have to send slow ships first, but once you deploy the gate is instant movement between connected system
almost as broken as wormholes
depending on how easy to break stargates, possibly garbage
>technology taking hundreds of months to research
Am I doing something wrong or is this just bad luck with the RNG not giving me enough research resources?
>>337860742
Going to die
But do it anyways.
>>337861097
You could make some labs to improve physics
>create a hutt race
>among the pre-ftl early space age is these two
>>337861097
The more pops you have the longer it takes for tech to research. Have fun going wide.
Is there any way to limit the amount of women that come up when playing as the humans? It feels like 70% or more in vanilla.
I'm not a misogynist or a racist but it really does fuck up the immersion to have a fleet commanded by five black women.
I'm trying to run a serious military empire.
>>337861353
that literally makes no sense.
Shouldn't it be faster considering you have a wider pool of talent to chose from?
>>337859465
pretty cool idea anon, sounds like an expanded version of the private colony ships
finish it!
>>337861090
Just give me migrant fleets already
>>337861415
>not wanting a sassy BBW running your naval fleets
>>337861472
I want a full-on migrant species
>no planets
>giant ships that are practically moving planets
>can break planets for a massive resource gain temporarily
>borders move with you
>larger ships and anything in the system can jump to beacons you build
>smaller ships can't beacon jump without larger ships, limited to a slower warp
or something like this
>>337861435
If you mouse over the tech in the screen where you choose it you can even see how much time your pops add to it. I played a tall 5 world empire and had around 116% extra time.
Ummm, anyone got their science ship copied?
> Be commonwealth of man
> surveying systems
> suddenly my ship hops into a wormhole, and there's nothing but a huge army of spectral ships (event)
>teleport back into original system
> half of crew gone missing
Some time later
> the crew reappears
> on a science ship, same as mine
> almost
> it is transparent, prototype class and cannot upgrade it
> autonamed "the other ship"
You can choose to keep it or destroy it, and I think that I got myself a free science ship.
>>337861857
Don't trust that shit for a second
>>337861857
DESTROY THAT FUCKING SHIT YOU IDIOT
come get your MP! Getchur MP intergalactic ass pounding here!
ID: 90101329449206787
no password
First come first serve.
>>337861857
Anon it's not to fucking late
I started a universe with 1000 stars and 25 empires. Went for the diplomatic, expanding-by-embracing tactic, everything starting at 0.
Now I can see the entire galaxy and every faction in it, not sure how it happened. I may have traded star charts a couple of times, no idea if that did it.
It fucking sucks, the mystery is gone. I know where everything is and there's no surprises, doesn't even look like there's any fallen empires on the map either. Makes me look at the map and think "great, now I need to deal with all these assholes" instead of "I can't wait to get out there and see what I'll run into".
Is this unavoidable? Will you eventually just know where everything and everyone is?
I almost feel like making a new 1000 star map and having only 10 or 5 enemies but vastly ramped up in difficulty. So space is less crowded.
Is this a good idea? Will there be more mystery and exploring? Can I still uplift or enslave primitives to "make" more alien life?
I really, really want more planets that are inhabited by life in different stages, and for those life forms to become empires on their own as well.
>>337861857
No good can come from shit like that, haven't you seen Star Trek, motherfucker?
>>337860742
Sounds like a nice guy, what could possible go wrong?
>>337861648
Sororitas or Khornate berserker
all other options are shit taste
>>337861740
And your capital is a space banana?
>he didn't put enhanced warp drives and thrusters on his science ships
>>337862396
Yes.
>>337862086
what year are you in? there is some kind of automatic spread mechanic, but it shouldn't happen to that extent too early in the game. maybe it's a bug
>>337862452
>mfw i just now realized you can upgrade those ships
HOLY FUCK I JUST OVERLOOKED THEM EVERY SINGLE TIME.
>>337844925
Species screen, find the race, hit UPLIFT.
>>337862452
>neither of them have popped up in research
>>337862452
>he uses warp drives
I always cringe when I see those slow fucking shit moving in my sensor range.
Also
>it's impossble to upgrade warp drives on transports
Paradox does it again.
>>337862759
The other two are gay as fuck.
>>337861967
>>337861991
>>337862083
>>337862173
Why, it looks neat! I reamed it into CMS Other and I'm keeping it as far away from my territory as possible.
>>337849003
dumb phoneposter
>>337862759
You can. Just enable auto-designs in the ship designer and land your troops on a planet, when they pop back up the transports will have best drives/reactors on them. Fills your ship designer with a bunch of shitty auto-designed trash but they're quick to delete and it only has to happen twice in any given game.
>>337863037
No bully pls. I only browse from a phone while trying to fall asleep.
FINALLY I've gotten the research for sentient AI, now my massive robot slave army will be able to work the tech buildings too.
This is going to be great!
Good:
>Designing your own race
>Vangelis/Bladerunner-esque soundtrack
>Science system
>Ship designing
The Bad:
>Combat (better than CK2/EU4 but still basic)
>Lacks depth
>Repetitive
>Large periods of time where nothing really happens
I'd rate it a 6.5/10. It's not the worst game in the world, but definitely doesn't live up to the hype. People say that it might be a good game with 10+ DLCs, but I doubt I'll ever buy them.
I would overhaul the entire pop/economy/politics/diplomacy system. I've posted my thoughts before but basically I think the game would be much better modeled after Victoria 2. Here's a few of what I have so far.
First, change the pops so it isn't one pop per grid. Rather, the grid fills up with pops over time which affects its output. Pops are split into different socioeconomic classes. There are lower classes which make up slaves, soldiers and laborers, middle class which are scientists, clergy (along with a religion overhaul), officers, and upper class which are elite. Based on economic class, pops have different wants and motivations. The upper class have the slowest ethics divergence, with the middle class having a moderate one, and the lower class being happiness dependent. Pops having different ethics will make them join factions that will try to change the ethics of the empire.
There are now economic policies: privatization, state intervention and state control. Each grid on a planet has an owner, the empire or private individuals. Any grid the empire controls can be sold to private individuals. This allows raising of instant funds, but decreases the amount of resources owned per month from that grid. Privately owned grids will experience faster pop growth and attract immigration. This allows the player to colonize planets and sell land to expedite growth while raising funds.
Rename "Influence" to "Soft Power", or not, that really isn't important but I think it would better represent what that resource does. Soft Power represents the influence of both domestic and foreign affairs. Soft Power is gained through winning wars, economic trade agreements, expanding your sphere of influence, and by producing culture. This all requires new mechanics to work, like SOI. Players can use SP to influence domestic affairs like they currently can, but can also use it to influence other empire's policies, if the empire accepts.
I have more ideas but running out of room.
I asked this in the /vg/ thread, but I haven't gotten a response yet, so I'll ask here in case anyone knows:
I downloaded a bunch of weeb portrait mods, but they're all dumped into the mammalian category. Is there any way to scroll it/expand the interface, or should would it be easier to just change the mods?
>>337863486
>soft power
Diplomatic power.
Post it on the paradox forums instead.
First time I've gotten salty
>>337863285
>sentient AI
>slaves
Enjoy your time, John Connor
>>337862759
what is hyperspace like?
I've only used Warp and Wormhole
Wormholes are a lot nicer than Warp when you have the minerals to throw around but jesus christ are they awful when you dont
still mad cause no good modern space sim
>>337860229
>I want to play as a race that looks similiar to humans, but with a different skin tone.
Are you retarded by any chance?
>>337860419
>3840x2160
Jesus christ
It's pretty mediocre and just a DLC trap. Doubt Paradox will introduce all the vital missing features without asking people to pay a lot for it.
Hearts of Iron 4 looks far more complete in that regard but then again it doesn't do anything HoI3 didn't do.
>>337862891
wormholes rape everything
>>337861857
you gonna get spooked
>it's mediocre
Dammit. It'll probably get better with DLC but fuck buying all that. I got the base game and I might buy the big DLC but I'll just wait on /gsg/ for the tiny nickel and dime shit.
I guess next up is Hearts of Iron 4 then.
>>337863642
Diplomatic power makes it seem that it only has foreign use only. I imagine the resource as representing the governments ability to influence different things without using direct force thus "soft power".
I was under the impression that you needed to legally own the game to post there, but I guess that's just to access the mod forums.
>>337857590
Mongoose Traveller player here, Traveller is great. Easily best scifi tabletop on the market.
Traveller 5 is a hellish mess of charts, avoid. Mongoose Traveller is great, classic traveller is okay if you're super grognard.
>>337863736
Hyperspace is the fastest, and you can use it from any location in the system, but you're restricted to the lanes. Forcing it for every empire can add interesting strategy of blocking off expansion at key points
>empire is huge
>fighting a lot of wars
>using warp drives
JUST
>>337863736
Ever played Endless Space? It's like that. Allows you to move much faster than warp, but only along hyperspace lanes, which can get wonky sometimes. I still prefer it to other types because it's so fucking fast and far reaching.
Lemme tell you about this anomaly event.
My researchers found a low, almost indistinguishable heat signature over an ice planet. When investigating they find a lab built into a cliff. It appears hastily assembled, but readings say it is several thousand years old.
Even more puzzling, the markings and signs are all in our language, as is the designs and tech. It could just as easily have built by us. Upon entering, we are met by a solitary scientist. He is the same race as us, and claims he was exiled, in fact he refuses to refer to himself as anything but "the exile". The government has no record of him, nor of ever exiling anyone. And if the readings are correct, he would have been on the planet from before we mastered space travel.
The exile discourages our investigation and tells us that he is willing to join our empire if we leave the base and never return.
I choose to ignore him, the base must be searched.
After days of searching, the investigation team comes up empty handed. Though the base has many readings and scientific info, nothing of it is of any particular note and only deals with regular planetary activity. Whatever the station was once monitoring is impossible to know from this info, but the only hint at something more is seismic readings that suggest the core of the planet might be hollow, and that the mass and gravitational field of the planet has changed recently.
The scientist who called himself the exile has vanished without a trace, neither leaving on our ship or by any other means. As if he never existed in the first place, our team could find no traces of him.
>>337864697
sounds like you fucked up the Space Jesus social link
>>337856976
>get space rpg/setting
>hey gm can we have a game about exploration?
Tada.
>>337860807
I think you would know how to do that if you separated the races and species. Also, throw in one if someone still wants to play as all the races.
>>337864973
too bad it's star wars and star wars is fucking stupid
The game needs more option when it comes to dealing aliens on inhabited planets.
I tried to colonize one with pre-sentient fish people on it so I could use them as slaves. Of course they just vanished the second my ship touched down.
And why can you only uplift races into vassalage? Why not give the player a choice between making them allies, part of your empire or simply free from the start?
Even better, how about the option to help them in secret by giving them tech and help from afar, making them responsible for their own uplifting with only a gentle guiding hand?
Right now uplifting a race is so unceremonious and dull.
>>337864839
I listened to his warnings and he joined my empire. He's 200 years old now, even got elected president a couple of times.
>>337865201
Man it's fucking space adventures they're all fucking stupid. The point is there's plenty of options, it's all really down to having someone prepared to run it.
what do?
>>337865781
Activate and the planet will become colonisable.
Stellaris just reminds me of how much I played Sword of the Stars and how fucking godawful the sequel was
SotS 2 is fucking irredeemable garbage.
Would it be hard to customize the UI depending on race? Or at least give the player some color choices?
Getting sick of the green.
It's disappointingly shallow and bland, but that's modern Paradox for you. Gotta attract that Civ audience somehow.
I was hoping against hope for more serious and realistic pop systems and an ethics/government system with some actual meaning and depth behind it (seriously? 6 questions dictate the entire range of ethics and ideology ever? and you can't even scale them back and forth, only being stuck on 4 pre-determined states?). I'm not gonna lie, I sank probably a good 20+ hours into it already, but I'm glad I didn't buy it. It's so painfully unimaginative.
The inevitable DLC deluge COULD potentially make it more decent, but I don't see how can some very fundamental mechanics could ever be fixed. Paradox aren't getting rid of nonsensical mana shit anytime soon.
Tell me this, can species that are in the early stages of civilization ever reach space faring and become empires on their own?
I fell for the Codex meme.
Am I fucked?
>>337863486
You are asking for too much. This game is designed for retarded reddit shit who just came in fresh from CK2 and EU4. They'll find it too confusing and write a bunch of negative reviews on the Steam™ store page. And we wouldn't want that, now would we?
>>337865781
ACTIVATE THE ROBOTS
WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG
>>337865781
DO IT
Looking at these threads really tells you what Paradox's target demographic with this game was. It's not for people interested in strategy or even 4X, it's just a meme game for epik memesters who want to roleplay as their favorite Game of Thrones memempire in space.
>>337866952
what do you mean?
>>337867243
Fucking kill yourself /gsg/
>>337867287
Something something botnets and bitcoin miners
>>337867297
>WAH someone pointed out I am behaving like the stupid retard that I am!
>g-g-go back to s-someplace else! this thread is for POSITIVE feedback ONLY!
>>337867243
the irony of your memepost is stifling.
Also half the shit OP said is just flat-out wrong. It's a really good game.
>>337866973
If the game was basically Vick2 in space that was more of a sandbox than historical simulation then this game would be perfect. Some of the mechanics I like, such as ethics as they can represent diverging culture in a dynamic way that other Paradox games don't really do. But almost every other mechanic falls flat and lacks anywhere near the depth of Paradox's previous games.
I really hope that mods can fix some of the issues I have. I might even look into it myself one day. I'm afraid that some things just can' be fixed due to the 4x design, and I worry that my ideas for the pop overhaul would break the game. It already runs pretty slow as it is now, I imagine having to simulate a lot more pop details during gameplay would slow it down more.
>boot up some SOTS while waiting for Stellaris to come down in price, go on sale or just be properly finished
>empire building going well
>suddenly herald of fuck-you-we-don't-explain-who-anyone-is-in-this-game appears
>blows up a couple ships and lowers colony morale to 0
>colony rebels
>breaks away from empire
>try to get them back
>no option to negotiate
>invade
>warning: stellar peacekeeper is coming for you
>stellar peacekeeper teleports to homeworld
>destroys all ships
>rebuild fleet
>peacekeeper appears again and blows up ships
>homeworld is rendered useless and defenseless
SOTS is crazy.
>>337841238
>No map modes
This part really bothered me.
>>337863285
ah, to be young and naive again
>>337866918
Yes or they nuke themselves when the get to the atomic age
>>337867556
>really good game
>literally no content
>broken mechanics out the ass
>nonfunctional UI
>>337867810
i keep seeing people say this
i am relatively new to GS/4x games, what are map modes?
