>Night Dive Studios turns to crowdfunding for anticipated remake.
>A much requested remaster of System Shock is currently in development, and based on some early gameplay footage the Unity-powered revamp is coming along very nicely. It's likely we'll have to wait a while to play it though, because Night Dive Studios has announced that it intends to launch a Kickstarter campaign next month.
>In addition to looking much more fancy, the remake will stay very true to the original – though the user-interface will receive some much needed spit and polish.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okPLF9Ad9ns
You backing this right?
>>337841101
Nope.
Funny, I thought NDS has a shitton of money, that's why they do all this
>>337841391
Shotton of money from where, selling slightly updated versions of old games that barely anyone buy
>>337841483
He could've had money before that
>>337841483
this
where the fuck would they even get money from?
>>337841483
>Shotton of money from where, selling slightly updated versions of old games that barely anyone buy
You're right, it was only a cult classic where just the disc sold for $60+ because the IP was in limbo. Nobody would buy that old game.
>>337841880
Collector's items are always more desired
>>337842118
They weren't collectors items, they were bare discs.
>>337841101
Zombies looks like literal shit
>>337841101
> mild improvement
No
didn't this already come out on steam last year?
>>337842220
Which is basically a collector's item now since they are rare unlike a digital game
>>337842375
It was a port of original for new systems with slight fixes. This one is full remake
>that graphics engine
Please don't.
>>337842391
This was before the digital release. People paid that much for a game that old because it was the only legal way to play it. The demand really was that high.
>>337842570
Looks fine
>remaster
don't give a shit
>remake that actually allows you to do whatever build you like without getting fucked over, a less ridiculous weapon degrading system and redoing the entire Rickenbacker
mite b cool
>>337842746
This is a remake of SS1. It never had weapon degradation in the first place.
>>337841101
>Unity-powered
DROPPED
>>337842814
Oh shit I'm retarded.
This could be decent then.
>>337842970
>it's "Unity is bad" meme again
>When you "accidentally" destroy Earth with laser
>>337842970
Did you do this with Ori, too?
>>337843123
>it's a "requires modern high-end requirements for decade old visuals" engine
>though the user-interface will receive some much needed spit and polish.
Casualized? Casualized.
>>337843247
Dev's fault, not engine's.
>>337843174
YES
>>337843312
Nope just better
>>337843491
>>Nope just better
That's what Ken Lecuck thought when he made Bioshit
I hope we get timer on hardest difficulty like in orginal.
>>337841101
Of course not
>>337843312
>Honestly unironically thinking a shit UI makes a game "More hardcorez!"
Not to mention most everything you do can be done with key commands and you can almost forget about the shitty UI
>>337843564
Bioshock was good tho until Infinite destroyed everything
>>337841101
I don't give a fuck about the remake. I'm more interested in the Warren Spector directed SS3
I gotta say they've done a pretty good job with the interiors. The visuals were pretty out there so I always wondered how they would transition it into full 3d but it looks pretty nice
>>337843698
>>Honestly unironically thinking a shit UI makes a game "More hardcorez!"
A Bioshit fan would think the System Shock 2 UI is bad, when it's the least cumbersome and best made UI's I've ever used in an FPS RPG.
Spare me your excuses.
I hope SHODAN maintains the SS1 look, it was way creepier and fitting.
>>337843848
What does SS2 have to do with this SS1 remake
>>337843848
>I like the taste of shit! Don't tell me you're so casual you don't like the taste of shit too
>>337843564
why is ken levine a cuck
>>337843759
>Bioshock was good
No. I played Bioshit before I played SS2 and Bioshit was always bad
>>337843964
SS2 is also bad
>>337843953
>Le shit eating comparison
Next you're gonna compare games to food
>>337843247
Lots of crappy looking games are made on Unity because Unity is free.
Unity is not incapable of making good looking games, however.
>>337843848
>System Shock 2
HAHA! YOU WERE MERELY PRETENDING TO BE RETARDED!
>>337841101
They have updated the textures but not the geometry of the rooms, it looks stupid
Every room is a 4 polygon box with super highress textures and little thingys on the walls
>>337843964
SS2 is better than Bioshock but it isn't a bad game at all.
>>337844049
I don't think a game that has been ripped off as much as SS2 (Doom 3, Dead Space, Bioshock) could ever be called even remotely bad.
>>337844069
>>337844049
Remove yourself from this thread this instant, fag master.
>>337844209
Can you even call Bioshock a rip-off since it was designed by the same dude?
>>337844181
What should the rooms look like? I mean walls are usually straight. It looks good enough to me
>>337844181
I agree with you, it does look stupid. But their intentions are to create a faithful remake of the game. Nothing changed except the graphical fidelity.
fuck this. crowdfund for otherside and give it to them to make ss3 better.
Did anyone explain the actual storyline of System Shock to them yet?
>>337844209
Earthbound has like 50 rip offs and Earthbound was bad
They basically took the engine from that space cleaning sim, made everything much more shiny and added copious amounts of bloom before finishing it by smearing Vaseline across the screen
>>337844778
epic
>>337844767
That wasn't in the original game was it? Weren't the zombies just the normal crew but mutated. That's some pretty liberal retconning
>>337843848
>A Bioshit fan would think the System Shock 2 UI is bad
>the System Shock 2 UI
>System Shock 2
>>337845053
I think this is actual original concept art.
>>337844790
I'm not seeing it.
>>337844778
>Earthbound was bad
Don't you fucking start
>>337841101
>System shock 1-2 are my fav games of all time
>Replay both at least once every year
>Still think no other title who attempted to copy them nailed their game design.
And despite all the nostalgia i have for the game this looks kinda... wrong... I can't put my finger on it but all my nostalgia remembering those corridors can't bring me to like this.
>>337845053
The crew arent zombies, they're people with worms on them who grew into worm people. Their bodies are barely even recognizable as human.
>>337845037
Seriously the pacing of the game is awful, combat is basic turn based combat with zero depth, No party organization to give certain characters priority over others, no unique equipment builds that reward smarter thinking, not harder thinking
Only reason people like it is cause Smash Bros made Ness popular
If you don't think this looks amazing you are a bad person. They could have made it edgy dark blue grey but instead they kept the cartoony, surrealistic aesthetic of the interiors and enemies. If you don't think this looks incredible based on the trailer you are an edgelord contrarian--sorry!
>>337845424
People like it for everything that isn't the gameplay, and in terms of gameplay most RPGs are shit anyway.
>>337845053
>Weren't the zombies just the normal crew but mutated.
Yes. I think whoever drew that only looked at the sprites and tried to come up with an explanation for the bulbous eyes.
>>337845496
>sorry!
no problem mate
>When you first meet it
>>337843794
Out there
>the background looks super realistic and there is nothing that is modern that does that
>>337845424
more like only reason people like it is because
>muh nostalgia
>muh randumb XDDD
>muh 2deep4u story
>muh cult hit you gotta play it
I'm to replay it today and wouldn't have enough motivation in me to even play from start to finish
>>337845407
That's System Shock 2 you're talking about.
>>337845407
In SS1?
>>337845254
SS2 is like deus ex with less RPG and more shooty
>>337845424
EarthBound is only recognised because of the final boss. Thats it.
>>337845847
>>337845871
I thought this was supposed to be SS2 remastered because of the ss2 shodan image posted
>>337845496
Corporate shill the post
>>337845254
That's weird.
I'm also a big fan of SS and this game looks kind of ok to me.
>>337845703
I'm sorry I'm not really understanding what you're saying
>>337841101
>You backing this right?
Fuck off retard
>>337841101
>crowdfunding
lol
Nah.
>>337844778
agreed 100%
linear as fuck
shallow
gameplay choices made no difference
it was made for children who couldnt handle the complexity of the finalfantasy games at the time and some how has come to be hailed as "great"
i blame tumblr kiddies and their bullshit safespace nonsense
>>337846061
Ok every fucking game now a days has a super big world where ss1 feels like it was more of a corridor thing.
The rooms feel to big and not enough detail for me
>>337841101
>lets buy the bridge of brookryln
No thanks my good man
>>337846318
You dumb cunt people liked earthbound before the god damn internet existed
Why does everything look like plastic?
>... the Unity-powered revamp
ahaHAhaHAHAhahaHAHAHahah
>>337841101
>Unity
>Kickstarter
Why the fuck they turned SS into an indie game? Also the level design in 2d looked allright but it looks fucking retarded on 3d. They better not do this kind of shit on SS3.
>>337843848
>System Shock 2 UI
>System Shock 2
>2
why bother getting up your own ass so much if you don't even know what the thread is about?
>>337846483
Before the internet existed?
>>337845880
>SS2 is like deus ex
Yeah no... also a great game, also in big boy on my shelf but your statement is just wrong.
>>337846035
Well i think im just frustrated because i'm waiting for over 16 years for a game that could succeed SS1 + 2 (with the ocasional disappointments of other games with "shock" in the name) and this just looks like someone ported the SS1 maps into a unity engine
>>337845424
This might as well be copypasta--the same reasons that everyone gives, all of which are shitty or out-right wrong.
>No party organization to give certain characters priority over others
Why do you need party organization to give priority to characters when they all have equal priority?
Ness is the Knight/Tank class
Paula is Mage/Healer
Jeff is Rogue
Poo is the Battle Mage
The perfect composition
They are all used equally because they all have abilities that the other party members do not have.
>>337841101
>heading to kickstarter
I thought it was already kickstarted, no thanks
>>337845053
Nah they're in the original.
>>337846483
yea literal children who couldnt take the compexity of games like blue dragon or eye of thr beholder
>>337841101
It looks like a 1-1 recreation with better graphics and controls. As long as it preserves the features and gameplay of the original, it should be great. Looks nice.
>>337847131
>lol iam smartur then u Xd
>>337847407
>le eric "i have no argument but i want to keep quoting your posts for posterity" meme
never reply to me or my posts again fagnoid
>>337846347
>The rooms feel to big
Compared to the original game? Dunno, there might actually be some scale difference
>not enough detail
I'm kinda ok with it, it's a small scale project. And it's an utilitarian space station so I'm alright with the walls being bare and having simple geometry
>>337844209
Gears of War was ripped off by pretty much every single third person shooter in the last 10 years, and cover-based shooters are all terrible, Gears included.
Same goes for CoD4, which effectively created the no-level design-allowed linear scriptfest quagmire that the FPS genre is stuck in today.
>>337846582
System Shock 1 is 3d. I get what you're saying though, it looks a bit strange with high fidelity graphics
>>337847749
You do realise the originator can be good and the follow up clones can be bad for just rehashing the same concepts over and over, right?
Like I hate Resident Evil 4 with a passion, as it resulted in RE5, RE6, Dead Space, etc
>>337846985
Huh, I never realised. Or at least I didn't know the backstory, is it mentioned anywhere in the game?
Earthbound fans didn't like it for the gameplay, they liked it for the setting and the NPCs, the quirky humor and occasionally fucked up themes. I'm not even someone who likes Earthbound and even I know that shit.
>>337847749
Gears of War is a rip off of Kill.Switch, you'd know that if you weren't a fucking retard
>>337848014
>You do realise the originator can be good
Sure. Just giving examples for when the originator is also bad.
>>337848014
>I hate Resident Evil 4 with a passion, as it resulted in RE5, RE6, Dead Space, etc
That's not really fair towards RE4. Shinji Mikami made a great game and the rest of the world took turns dumping on it.
>>337848118
meant to reply to >>337846318
>>337845424
>Unity
>>337848197
And yet, nobody gave a shit about Killswitch, and cover-based shooting only became prevalent due to Gears. Just like mid-90s FPS games were called Doomclones despite it being nowhere close to the first FPS.
Please calm down, anon, we're all friends here.
>>337841101
I'm not a fan of the heavy use of Bloom instead of actual lightning but that enemy animations are great.
>>337848302
But then Mikami did a really weak ass RE4 clone with The Evil Within, neither fixing nor improving what RE4 broke
>>337846985
The point is they look the same but they changed the story behind them.
>>337848039
The manual entry for them explicitly states they couldn't control the mutation in humans, so they definitely weren't designed as workers.
>>337848530
Does that change the fact that RE4 was a good game tho and it's not really fair to hate it just because other games tried to copy its success?
>>337847728
Staryu was an objectively bad game. Kill yourself.
>>337848741
I think I can hate it because it shit on an established franchise I loved and sent the entire survival horror world into a down spiral that it never recovered from
>>337849121
>it shit on an established franchise I loved
How?
>>337849239
>How?
This is exactly what's wrong with RE4 fans and they act like RE2 wasn't one of the most successful and critically acclaimed games of its time
>>337849380
I know hoe successful RE2 was, you couldn't LIVE in the PS1/N46 era without knowing and seeing a whole shitload of RE2 clones.
Your logic for hating it is still retarded tho. That'd be like me saying I hate RE2 because Squaresoft tried to make Parasite Eve 2 an RE2 clone and fucked up the whole game as a result and buttfucked the franchise forever.
>>337849809
And that's probably a fair assessment - but I wanted closure or at least sensible continuation
RE5 gave that to me when they killed Wesker, so for that reason alone I prefer it to 4.
>>337848014
Dead Space 1 and 2 are pretty good as action games, though.
What's the problem?
>>337841101
Doesn't Otherside own the rights to the System Shock title?
>Kickstarting famous brands
Crowdfunding is acceptable, if some indie dev nobody ever heard of is trying to make a game. They have no other way of getting funding.
If an established company with a recognised brand needs to turn to Kickstarter for money, it means their project is bullshit and professional publishers already kicked them out the door because of it.
Do not fall for these fraudsters, /v/. They are only trying to sell you a product on Kickstarter because they know you wouldn't buy it after you've actually seen the final product.
>>337851135
Nah. Nightdive are giving them permission to develop SS3.
>>337851173
>If an established company
They aren't one
>with a recognised brand
This IP hasn't been relevant for over 20 years and most gamers don't know about it
>>337851173
>They are only trying to sell you a product on Kickstarter because they know you wouldn't buy it after you've actually seen the final product.
That's not true at all. Kickstarter is just a great way to get double the money. First you have free money to make a game, then you actually sell the game that was already financed with free money. It's like you made two games, and you didn't even have to suck Goldberg's cock once.
>>337850469
I can't fucking stand RE5. Yeah it brings some closure untill RE6 ripped its coffin right back open.
Yeah RE4 was kinda lacking in the scare department compared to the other games but at least there was a lot tension and shit. RE5 destroys even that with the co-op bullshit.
>>337851173
>if some indie dev nobody ever heard of is trying to make a game
No anon, it's the other way around. You should never pledge money to developers who haven't shipped a complete game before the kickstarter- they will just mismanage the funds because they have no idea how to run a project, as we've seen time and time again.
Kickstarter should be used for games with a niche appeal, by established developers who can't secure publisher funding due to a perceived lack of interest. That's exactly what this project is.
Why are blatant advertising threads like this allowed?
MODS
>>337843312
If you have played system shock, you would know the original interface was designed for singe kind of octopus. Half of your have time is fumbling with the interface, it's part of the reason I don't go back.
The other part is the cyberspace missions.
>>337851467
What is """free""" money
>>337844790
but that game uses unreal engine 3. if the game in the video would use unreal engine 4 you wouldn't see jaggies thanks to its flawless temporal aa
>>337851693
End yourself
>>337852510
Money you get for free without doing anything? Is this a serious question?
>>337841101
I won't back it but I really do hope it does get the funding it needs.
So is there any reason why the text and voice acting of logs don't match in SS1?
>>337854383
Voice acting was an afterthought, the game originally came out on floppy disks
a couple of titles to play while you wait for SS3 and SS1 remake
>>337841101
I don't even preorder games let alone buying day one so fuck off with this crowd funding bullshit.
>>337841101
Fuuuuuck yeah. SS1 is easily my favorite of the two games
IMAGINE THE FUCKING HACKING FUCKING HEEELL
>>337842970
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-zLx5JVMVE
>>337841101
No. It will probably will be a consolized piece of shit that won't live up to the hype so why bother.
![neuromancer-braid_com-hard645-400[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/yTWKaHk.jpg "neuromancer-braid_com-hard645-400[1].jpg")
Who ready for /cyberpunk/ here
>>337852693
How do you obtain such money
>>337841101
>Night Dive Studios turns to crowdfunding for anticipated remake.
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
god DAMN IT
>>337841101
>Horns in trailer
no
>>337842970
Take back your unity hate meme to 2012
>>337857364
On Kickstarter obviously.
>>337841101
>Kickstarter
>remake
>remake will stay very true to the original
>>337844049
Do you even vape bruh?
>>337858303
You don't want it to stay true?
I hate how shit like MN9 and Project Phoenix has soured people on Kickstarting when it's had so many successes but all people ever seeis the failures.
>>337859304
we talkin bout volgarr?
>>337859304
>so many successes
Most have been underwhelming at best
Then there's the shit ton that never made it out the gate
It's not just the failures, amny got burned in the processI'm still yet to back a damn thing, I have no qualms waiting for the final product and maybe paying alittle extra because of it. Backer rewards are bullshit anyway.
>>337841101
naw, this doesn't need it. SS and SS2 are easily replayable the way they are. It should have gotten a black mesa type remake, where it's basically the original with a new coat of paint. This looks dumb
>>337859725
Replayable, but not playable first time
>>337859459
Volgarr, Shovel Knight, The Banner Saga, FTL, Shadowrun Returns, Shadowgate, Pillars of Eternity, Divinity: OS, And Hyper Light Drifter to an extent.
Path of Exile was crowdunded too, just not by KS if I'm remrmbering correctly
>>337859652
see
>>337860147
Bloodstained, the only game I ever actually helped fund is coming along nicely as well so.
>>337841101
>You backing this right?
Nope.
>>337859725
>basically the original with a new coat of paint
That's exactly what this is.
>>337860743
naw, unity is different. black mesa is still using source, it translated better. Unity and source engine are nothing alike.
>>337841101
>Kickstarter
Yeah, surely this wont wind up like Mighty Number Nine, Clang, Yoggsquest, the ultimate cooler, Ouya, the $100 3D printer, The Stomping Land, Code Hero, Double Fine Adventure...
>Kickstarter
>>337860941
Yes it will end up like Volgarr, Shovel Knight, The Banner Saga, FTL, Shadowrun Returns, Shadowgate, Pillars of Eternity, Divinity: OS, And Hyper Light Drifter, Chivalry
>>337841101
JUST GIVE ME TUROK 2 ALREADY FOR FUCKS SAKE.
>>337860147
All of those are shit, what are you on about? And FTL would have been ok if they didn't stop development instead of developing it fully, but when you get money before you make a game, you tend to run off with it.
>>337860147
9 success stories and how many failures?
Now look, I don't have anything against crowdfunding, but you can't deny the sheer amount of projects that fail completely or just put out a poor product.
Many of those games listed were funded in the early waves of crowdfunded games before you had every hack after free funds. Since then we've seen the real success rate of the platform/model and it doesn't look so great.
>>337861246
*tips*
>>337861263
There's a lot more success stories you know
>>337861350
FTL had a budget of 10k dude. The entire game realistically cost 10k. They got 200k, they could have made a game that was 20 (T W E N T Y) times bigger. But they just rushed to finish it and went to fuck Thai whores or whatever.
Feel free to explain to me why they wouldn't return the 190k if their budget was 10k, and where exactly did 190k go?
Oh and guess what, even though the game was made with TWENTY TIMES as much free money as was needed, THEY'RE STILL SELLING IT FOR MORE MONEY.
>>337861246
Here's your (You)
>>337861552
I'm sure there are but it pales in comparison to the failures.
That is not in question.
>>337861069
yeah but those are all different games, this is a game tryign to live up to the hype of an old game. You cant blame people for being wary of giving their money away to a remake, on top of being a crowdfunded remake by the people that didn't make the original game.
>>337841101
Awesome that they're keeping the level layout very similar. I'll definitely consider backing. I just hope the performance isn't shit because of Unity.
>>337861696
This is true for basically anything in the vidya industry or most industries in general, shit falls through the floor all the damn time.
>>337861925
Didn't they make the enhanced version of the original game? ANd they're working with people from Looking Glass studios apparently.
>>337862005
And those failures will have a net effect on the willingness of future backers.
That's why you're retarded. You're annoyed about people being justifiably cautious.
>>337843161
I fucking did it. "whops"
>>337861589
>THEY'RE STILL SELLING IT FOR MORE MONEY.
Its a product retard, and none of your points says the game is bad just you think it should have more content
>>337862302
No, people here just shit on anything kickstarter-related even if it has gameplay or has a solid foundation cuz they got burned by Inafune.
>>337857008
Oh you mean cyberspace?
>>337861069
If that's the case I'll save my money until it's ready for a commercial release.
>>337862536
My point is that you could have had 20 games like that for the price. Why is this acceptable in your opinion?
What does it mean that it's a product? You're a product.
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>>337847747
Until you get to the officers level. Red carpets and plants. Fuckem.
>>337862598
No, they shit on anything kikestarter because so much of it goes nowhere.
Most heavily shilled kickstarters end up overfunded, too large in scope due to the overfunding, understaffed, DELAYS DELAYS DELAYS, rushed, buggy and unfinished. The ones that do make it to the end, you've got worse odds than 50/50 on whether it'll actualy be a good game.
Again, nothing wrong with the overall model it's just the position it is currently in.
What kind of music do you think they'll be going for? Faithful to the original style or something different?
>>337863445
At a guess I'm going to say they'll want to do something more like SS2.
>>337863445
since the remake looks very similar to the original, im guessing original style
>there are people who have never played the original system shock
>>337843312
yes casualized it will be on consoles so the UI and menus will be completely overhauled
>>337851173
Putting investment risk on the consumer is never acceptable.
>>337863980
wasnt that biometer totally useless?
>>337857008
I hope they flesh that out better, make it play like Descent or some shit
>>337864397
I wouldnt mind if they take it out completely, buuut we'll see.
>>337863980
dude I fuckin loved System Shock. I found a button under some stairs, and bad things happened.
>>337864267
it's just additional information but the bioware implant shows more detail on health and stamina
>>337863980
Honestly though is there really that much point to having all that on screen at all times. The weapons they can just move to a weapon wheel, on PC you could just use the numbers to switch. Tab to bring up items and data, and I guess access to full map. On xbox that would be the start menu. Function buttons for the augs similar to Deus Ex, on console something like press LT to bring up a menu and pick one of them. There really only needs to be the energy bars and a minimap as static hud elements. Though I saw the biometer in the trailer too
Jokes on you I have dosbox and a crt.
>>337865095
Why not just pirate the Enhansed Edition???
>>337865934
crashes on 7x64 and dont think even works on anything x64
>>337841101
>kickstarting games that are already made
What the fuck
>>337866259
works fine for me with 7 x64
there isn't much different besides not lagging at higher resolutions due to dosbox
>>337866361
not finished tard
>>337842235
>Zombies
>>337843161
That never made sense to me.
>"let's install a powerful laser that has no purpose and connect to the network while outsourcing our cybersecurity to random NEET neckbeards who are able to crack our existing system from Earth"
>>337858448
Not the OP but I would rather the game be something more than the original with a makeover.
