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daily reminder to blah blah blah

thinly disguised DS pvp thread

come complain, come git gud
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I for one enjoy fighting a host getting escorted by 3 phantoms and having a seed of giants activated
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>>337835665
Seed of a Tree of Giants? More like Seed from my Peenus Weanus cause the seed is my jizz and the tree is, of course my Peenus Weanus and giant being how big my Peenus Weanus is.

so in short my Peenus Weenus is pretty big.
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>>337835665
>we_want_the_mlp_audience.png
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>spawning phantoms to help you in a 1v1
>sippy in a 3v1
>using the seed ever
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Seed of a Giant Tree more like Seed of Fucking Stupid
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>>337835932
hahaha!
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Anyone else a red in disguise?
>drop white sign at the beginning of areas
>host gets invaded
>sit my ass down and watch the invader fight the hose
>battles sometimes last several minutes
>more often then not the host black cystals me out afterward for not helping them

>join darkmoon
>get summoned into other peoples worlds randomly
>run up on red phantom and wave
>sit ass down as he fights the host
>clap if he kills the host

Some people claim this is time wasted, but personally I can't consider a good laugh time spent wasted.
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>>337835665
I want to fertilize that seed.
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Phantom invasion priority + sippies being incredibly hard to punish + seed being usable every 3 invasions + hosts having 20% more health + mad phantoms siding with the stronger side
= invasions are a clusterfuck and mostly not fun
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>invade a really shit host with 3 phantoms
>eventually kill all his phantoms
>he just runs back to the bonfire and summons again while rolling around like an idiot waiting for them to summon in.
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I'm 200% fucking terrible at PvP in this game, the only invasion I've won legitimately was against a guy in too much armor using a really shitty dagger vs my loincloth and sharp katana. Even then I only had the tiniest sliver of health left at the end. At least neither of us sipped.
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>Invade host with max phantoms
>Somehow no other invaders
>Well I can just lead them back through mobs I gue- Oh he just popped a seed.
>Fuck this shit. I have an obscuring ring.
>Cast hidden body so mobs are easier to lose too
>Dash back through the level so they lose sight of me.
>Chameleon in a good spot
>Having to track through the level with no way to refresh estus slowly brings them down
>Accidentally run in to the host later on his way to try opening some short cuts, probably. His phantoms left him alone to look for me, clearly
>Murder the solo host.
>Phantoms probably don't even know what happened.

Never give up, friends. There's always a way.
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>>337836651
>literally can't do anything as the host continues to roll 50 times in a row and pressing summon on every sign he sees
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Imagine you could parry the estus flask out of people's hands, disabling it until they died/left the world/ rest at a bonfire.
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>do co-op for Wolnir
>Host dies in fog immediately
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>>337836361
>>337836651

as much as i love antics like this, things are getting out of hand

>be invading as red
>nothing but ganksquads
>git gud and learn to fight back
>finally get tired of fight 4v1s with seed activated, decide to be join the fun police
>nothing but hosts made of paper-mache or groups of red/purple anti-ganksquad ganksquads

FUCK
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>get the blue sentinels covenant
>"oh cool I wonder if they changed it at all"
>they didn't
>get the blade of the darkmoon covenant
>"oh cool now I can invade people as a bluecop"
>it's functionally the same as blue sentinels
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>>337835665
What's that wide bladed straight sword i see everyone using?
It always seems to hit me even whilst im rolling, or after rolls
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>>337836887
>doing wolnir at SL18
>oh sweet a summon, this will make things easier
>summon sunbro
>immediately runs into cursefog swinging at wolnirs body

how do you even get so far so underleveled and be so stupid
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>>337836778

One tip is to always cash in on when an invader/host is following behind you. Like, walk/run away a bit from them, but as they follow you, try to throw them off with a sudden attack. This must be the absolute easiest way to connect a hit in this game's PVP, and has actually let me overcome hosts with a couple of phantoms helping them.

I feel like your biggest struggle will be finishing off enemies, but your cleverness will be more rewarded. An offhand spear is a cool idea for taking down anyone on the run.
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>>337837142
This thing?
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>>337836361
Better than white in disguise

>invade as watchdog
>Red invades a second later
>find the host, smack him around for a bit
>hear something behind me, roll to the side as a FUGS comes slamming down on where I was 2 seconds ago
>niggerwhat
>this dumbass proceeds to fight me while the host watches, using up all of his estus in the process
>he finally kills me, only to be back stabbed by the host a second later

Am I just salty because I got killed, or is that red a fucking retard? It makes sense for mad spirit to act like that, but no one else gets rewarded for phantom kills so it's just wasted effort
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>>337837142
wide and short, kinda stubby looking? dark sword.

you'll hear a lot about it if you stick around
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>>337835932

Epic win, my good sir. Have an internet.
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>>337837298
i've done this, but only for the lols

>invade into fight club
>pretend to watch
>great chaos fire orb into middle of brawl, killing both contestants
>sacred flame host and proceed to chug my way to victory
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>make character called R1 King
>start as assassin
>Get orb as early as possible and invade the settlement
>Get weapon to +2 just to stay within low peoples range
>R1 spam everyone and every phantom to death
>except defeat if someone parries me(it happens like once every ten fights)
>hate mail for days
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>>337837298
I have so many pale tongues I don't care. As an invader I will sometimes kill Aldrich Faithful that a double teaming a lone host who is clearly a newbie or out of their depth.

If a host has phantoms in any context though kid gloves are off.
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>>337837701
fuck I meant to say accept not except. I hate english.
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>>337837746
>invade some poor chump who doesn't know what he's doing
>has like three phantoms, who are also clearly nubs
>blow them out of the fucking water
>10 minutes later, get a message
>Hey can you help me with the level please?
>Get connected, walk him through the level
>Kill Vordt with four great chaos fire orbs
>"OMG"
>"that was awesome!"
>"thx alot"

where ever you are, you're welcome. scrub.
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>Fighting the Yellowfinger Heysel phantom
>Breaking a sweat because of his constant soul arrow spam
>*Summoning Sound*
>"You where invaded by Watchdog dude"
>Oh Fu-
>*Summoning Sound*
>"You where invaded by Watchdog another dude"
>Giant crab noises get suddenly lowder

Things have never escalated so bad to me in a Souls game like this one time.

Are there a lot of Watchdog players by the way? fucking hell.
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Who are these people ganksquadding? I swear everyone's complaining about them, but the number of them doesn't seem to be going down.
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>>337838150
Show them that pyromancy is good anon, you have done a good job at that.
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>>337838449
Casuls, the kind of people won't post on Chinese cartoon boards
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>>337838449
of course it doesn't, because the ganksquads only do it to piss people off. They're this games twinks, just less skilled.

Which I think is stupid, because at least with twinking there was always some measure of sport to it.
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>>337838449
Because gank squads can be really fun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf3Wj_d-aOE
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>>337835665
>Never summon
>Invader invades
>Get the upper hand
>Invader runs away and stands next to the biggest enemy in the area
>Pop a seed, watch the motherfuckers drop
Be a shitter, get shit on
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>invade some dumb fuck with 2 phantoms
>host doesn't pop a seed but does run all the way back to the bonfire while I fight his body guards
>cut down one and see host instantly start summoning another
>fight through 5 phantoms before I reach host at the bonfire
>starts rolling around like a moron trying to summon more help
>hit him once and then the lag switching starts
>host abuses it so much he disconnects as he's summoning his 6th protector

I really wish reds got a tongue for killing phantoms since almost every host I run in to does this shit
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So how many actually know that you're able to capitalize on another player's parry/guard break? i was co-oping with a friend in irythll and we got invaded and he gaurd broke an invader and missed his riposte and got a counter instead and i capitalized in HIS guard break.

man you think you know pretty much everything, and then discover something new
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>>337835932

I've seen that pasta as well.
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>>337839046
I miss guard breaks all the time because I'm shocked at people who don't put even a basic amount in stamina. I've been hit by my own weapons through the same shields so I usually base my idea of guard breaks on an average amount of stamina unless proven otherwise.
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>>337836881
Holy shit this is a great idea. Actually getting the estus to your mouth was slower in DaS1, and healing was slower in 2, but it's difficult to punish now because it's so fast.

This would definitely keep all parties much more involved in their fights.
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They need to patch in an animation for summoning Phantoms, like you do when your summon the Firekeeper in the Dark ending. You put your hand over the sign like you're lighting a Bonfire. Invading is just beyond fucked at this point, it's not even worth doing unless you're trying fuck with people with no intention of winning.

The main factor is the prioritization of Hosts with Phantoms. I'd be completely fine with Hosts half more Health and nearly double Estus if most situations were just 1v1. But no, the game prioritizes hosts with Phantoms, hosts can summon as many Phantoms as they want if one dies it can easily be replaced. There is no risk at all for summoning Phantoms, you just stand still for a second and mash X.

This shit is retarded, it needs to be changed. Have some sort of Phantom cool down where you can summon 2 but after that you need to rest a Bonfire to reset your Summon cooldown
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>>337838262
Heysel is a girl.
Also
>lowder
louder
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>>337839775
DS2 had farmable healing stones though. Which were fast to use and reasonably easy to play defensively enough to get use out of them.
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>>337839508
i can relate to that, i don't know if it's lots of people having sub 30 stamina or upgraded shields. it throws me off. people either insanely high stability or basically none at all
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>>337839046
of course? a guard break is just something that happens when you have a guard up and your stamina breaks, it's not a special animation for anyone but the person who got their guard broke
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>Finally find another Grape who isn't a complete fucking moron and we team up on the host and his 2 Phantoms
>We kill the Phantoms
>We're both running after the Host
>CONNECTION ERROR HAS OCCURRED

What does it feel like to be this big of a scared little bitch.
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The only way to win invasions at the moment is one shotting people with broken R1 into weapon art combos. Once that is patched all that will remain is parry fishing.
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>>337840054
Yeah, either you can only kick the shield in cause they boosted their shield/stamina, or the player guard breaks IMMEDIATELY in your combo so you hit them one too many times.. Thus hitting them out of the exploitable animation.

Anything short of a tower shield is a death sentence in PVP anyway, though.
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>>337840054
people who understand what stability is and use shields don't get guard broken

people who don't understand what stability is and use shields get guard broken

pretty self explanatory, especially the part about people who don't use shields not getting guard broken
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>>337840175
https://youtu.be/ylIXhcVAP08

I will post this video every day in every thread until you lot git gud
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>>337840295
>not expecting a guard break and they git hit with your last planned blow

JUST
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>>337840141
That happened to me yesterday when I teamed up with a cherry to kill the faggot host and his bitch buddy. They had no problem trying to sneak up on me and go 2 on 1 but the second red showed up and his phantom fag died, he suddenly couldn't handle the reversal and promptly disconnected.
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>>337840509
At that point I accept they are a shitter and just r1 spam through it more to get something out of the wasted break. Fuck it. They won't know how to deal with it if they let their guard break like that anyway.
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>>337838682
Honestly, I don't think it would be possible to get mad at this kind of gank. That kind of organized effort and cosplay is great.

Holy shit solo players that play rolling kirk and never attack are annoying, though.
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>>337839810
Definitely should be a max amount of summoning you could do instead of just spamming more help when you kill them off

you should have only the phantoms you summoned and thats it, they die you lose one, cant summon another
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>>337840413
Does the video have any fights against someone not retarded enough to get hit by a fireball that moves at the speed of a slug?
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>>337838262
Wait until you get to Aldrich's Front Porch
>invaded by rosaria's fingers
>invaded by multiple aldrich faithfuls
>giants stomping around
>zombie faggots shooting fireballs from high safety
>two dual wielding NPCs who enchant their weapons
>after all of this, silver knights shooting dragonslayer arrows on narrow ledges

I really wonder how much the designers were giggling to themselves when they came up with this shit
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>>337838449
The reasons I think are

1) because it's a popular new game and so there are a lot of new people unfamiliar with how the series works
2) now you get fuck-all for defeating helping anyone beat a boss and you get like a gorillion souls just from helping a host kill enemies and stomp invaders
3) people really want wacky pvp but the blue covenants can be a bit slow so it's faster to just get summoned and wait for the fingers to arrive
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>>337841195
>not seeing how he aims at where they roll into
>or how he takes advantage of distractions
>or blind spots
>or when he hits them from 50 character lengths away

he has like 10 videos of him spanking ganks, sounds like you just can't git gud
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>invade as farron
>1vs4 gank squad with seed
>kill 3 phantoms
>red invade and try to kill me because hurr no double teaming the host muh hunur
So sick of this shitty game and retards.
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>>337835932
that was epic!
epic for the win!
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>>337842001
not to mention
>find secret area in all this shit
>what's down here?
>2croc lol
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>>337842840
oh man, that was a blast

>see one croc
>fight croc
>second croc eats my whole asshole

thanks from
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>>337835665
>invade guy killing the winded knights on top of the Archives
>he has a sunbro with him
>pops a seed
>run away and wait for them to kill the knights
>come back up and kill phantom
>host runs back to bonfire, starts to summon another phantom
>we fight and I kill him before the phantom is summoned
>host disconnects mid death animation

Why
What was the point of doing all of that if you're just going to disconnect as soon as the fight doesn't go your way
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>mfw poise-shitters show their true colours as retards who can't learn basic game mechanics and can't do anything besides spam R1 and trade swings, failing to understand something as simple as hyper-armor
>mfw shitters complain about straight sword users show their true colours as people who are unable to read their enemy and simply attack before they do to outrange or out-hyper-armour them
DS3 is my favourite because it's actually very balanced and every build has an easy counter but it's bringing out all the idiots who can't learn

The only build that is legit cancer is great shield+straight sword but that's only an issue if you play at SL120 like an idiot
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Sometimes people aren't total assholes and you get cool moments.
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>>337843965
Sometimes you have really cool moments.
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>>337844490
It's nice when things like this happen. Although eventually a dark spirit invaded and started attacking people with the dragon's tooth.
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>It's a "other Invading phantoms attack you instead of the Host" episode
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>>337835665
Speaking of this shit, some faggot invaded me and just ran away into enemeis every time I tried to 1 v 1 him. I was willing to have a good duel with him, no estus, etc. He was a little BITCH. So I summoned two phantoms. one was a noob, the other was really good. I ended up chasing him into dragon breath and he died lol. Unfortunately I got caught in it too. I tried rolling away but ran into a fucking corner by mistake. I didn't die till like 20 seconds later and was laughing my ass off that I died but still cucked that little faggot bitch out of an ember.
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>>337844629
I mean how could you attack us after we were running and dancing around you. What an asshole.
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>>337844818
Reds are really getting bad about that.
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>>337844905
You just denied him the possibility of getting an ember, nothing was lost for him. Whereas you lost an actual ember.
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>>337842512
Why would the red be shocked or unhappy?

This edit is retarded.
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>>337845263
Ya but I'm not completely shit. It took my five seconds to get summoned in PvP and kill the summoner in a fair duel.
>ember restored

Meanwhile this little shitter I swear was running around for like 20 minutes doing nothing except failing to hit us with weak ass lightning bolts.
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sacred flame fix when
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>>337845836
Fucking hyper armor man. It probably won't get fixed cause then mages will bitch about being underpowered and waaah wahh not fair
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>>337845836
>actually getting hit by that in a duel
jesus christ
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>>337845836
When they fix poise.
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>>337845985
To be fair he used an R2 weapon art. I would expect that to at least disrupt his attack too.
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>>337835961
i don't get it
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>>337845836
Your sword goes right over his head, there's nothing wrong here except great hotboxes.
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>>337846132
He gets damaged though.
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>>337835665
>try to enjoy game's PvP
>devs permit and encourage hosts to be gigantic faggots and summon a full gank squad on you
>PvP in this game still gets revered
>Games that don't encourage deck-stacking faggotry are coming out soon
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>>337846217
Oh, so he does.

Good ol' hyperarmour, he's probably got the wolf ring on too.
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People who play dark souls for the pvp and not everything about it AND the pvp are the same type of kids who smurf in csgo.

They just want to play it only if they have a huge advantage on the other person.
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>>337846609
I really don't like this new poise system honestly. It seems like it's waaaaay too weapon dependent. I understand a little bit of dependency on that but it seems like the game just determines frames where HYPER armor activates. I say tone down that shit to just super for most attacks and grant a slight passive poise too depending on its value.
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>>337846861
I like the PvP for the unexpected, when I ran into giantdad in DaS it was always tedious as shit, because I'd seen it all before.

The same thing applies to 3, but instead of meme builds, it's endless gank squads. Why invade when I know what I'm going to find?
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>>337847176
But they're not gank squads. You're the one invading a co-op group, they're not ganging up on your world.

Also you can estus so stop crying. Although I'm surprised how few people are using Undead Hunter Charms now that they actually have a use.
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>>337847525
>you can estus
that means fuck all when the host has twice the estus you do and all of his phantoms can heal as well so they'll just rotate out in turns while the rest of them hit you
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>>337846052
>>337846132
>>337846217
>>337845985
the standard combo is glitch-flame and iron flesh
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>>337846609
he's using a spell called ironflesh that makes you basically immune to stagger and then a sacred flame exploit that 1-shots you no matter what. Best thing to do in this situation is just get close, wait for them to do the animation and then casually stroll away because ironflesh makes you walk like you have over 100% equip load (can't run). That or whip out a bow/crossbow and just pew at him while he slowly walks toward you. Eventually they will stop trying and pull out a weapon and actually try to fight you. Be careful though because they also like to switch back to the exploit mid-fight to take you off guard
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the pvp is shit the hit detection is just to bad
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>>337847708
>>337847525
Well then see my other point - Undead hunter charms. I've found them mighty useful in invasions so far and I'm sure you can do to.
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>tfw invading in Catacombs
Skeletalball best ally
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>>337847525
You're delusional if you think that just because you have HALF OF YOUR ESTUS it means that invasions are balanced.

The whole point of being embered (or in human form) is that the tradeoff for being able to summon phantoms to trivialize the game for you is to leave yourself vulnerable to invasions. As it stands there's essentially no downside whatsoever to being embered with two or three phantoms.
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>>337847937
Stopping three people from taking a sippy doesn't really even the odds up much.
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>>337848037
BROTHER
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>>337848098
>essentially no downside whatsoever to being embered with two or three phantoms.
duh, it's easymode. people wanted an easymode, fromsoft made an easy mode. what did you expect?
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>first character
>want to make str/faith
>finally find a blessed gem
>would decrease my weapons damage by 60

Should I just go heavy or no infuse and wait until I find a buffing miracle?
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>>337848138
Too bad about the retarded arrow limitations. Boy do I love having to go back to Firelink to fill up on arrows because you can barely hold any.
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>>337843365
Because a lot of people are really sore losers. I remember in DaS how many people would literally pull their PS3 out of the wall in order to disconnect at a moment's notice. there is literally nothing to gain from it, seeing as you will still have died when you turn it back on.
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>>337846118
horse vagina
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>>337848393
could just use blessed weapon spell

or put the blessed gem on your shield
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>>337844945
Because that's the point. I appreciate goofiness and funny invasions, but don't pretend that that is what people are explicitly looking to do.
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>>337848403
you can hold hundreds. Just switch arrow types if you run out of one type. I guess it's more limited for greatbows but that's how they decided to "balance" it. Still plenty of arrows.
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>>337837142
Everytime you are "hit" during your i-frames you lose i-frames on subsequent rolls. Fast weapons landing hits will basically make your rolls useless.
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Fucking hell.
Is AGermanSpy the most pretencious, beta, fedorafaggot of the whole souls community?
Is he actually a meme?

>knows he sucks at live playthroughs
>continues to do them
>gets butthurt when people tell him to stop doing it.
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>>337845836
How? just how does anyone get hit by that? you just roll around them til they use all their FP and if they use blue estus do the same thing over. you then have a useless pyromancer to fight after they run out of FP.
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>>337835665
Dam I love it when the host pops one of these with 2 phantoms.
>tfw pulling hordes towards host
>second invader comes in and kills everything
Fucking idiot.
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>>337848403
It's not that bad. I had to mule my first 100 to get started, but after that, killing enough passworded phantoms, and selling the excess embers funds my arrow addiction.
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>>337848403
This. but then again, if you can't kill a host with 100 arrows then you are doing something wrong. Also your arrows also go straight to your Bottomless Box so you can just go to a bonfire, I believe.
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For those of you complaining about gank squads and estus drinking and disconnecting , I have a novel idea
Pontiff duels and fight clubs
No seed, no gank squad (unless you're unlucky), no estus

Only real downside is softban chance but you can fix that with a bit of effort
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>>337848885
I'm saying that even when you refill at the bonfire the bottomless box only holds 99 for regular arrows and something retarded like 50 for great arrows.
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>>337848737
why were you watching that retard in the first place?
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>>337848613
>try doing greatbow obscure ring invasion in aldrich land
>still either get gangbanged by longsword spam
>or host still cowers away

you know how hard it is to aim that shit

>>337848737
the whole hardcore community is fuckin retarded
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Is there any way to farm Seeds of Giants?
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I started a co-op run with my friend and I think 9/10 of the invaders just spam parries. It's pretty funny just to run at someone though and they hit that L2 for the parry and you just go behind them and backstab them.
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>>337849010
i've managed to have two in my inventory at once so there must be a way. i guess get invaded and check the tree three times you're invaded
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>>337849010
Let yourself keep getting invaded and losing
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>>337848970
>obscure ring invasion
>host still cowers

who is cowering again?
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>>337836158
pff why did I laugh
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>>337843365
Better than people that disconnect the second their summons die and then they have the nerve to send you messages bragging about they won since they disconnected when all you were doing was hiding with a white branch waiting for them to die
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>>337848957
I'm tired of honorfags thinking that their shit don't stink. Yáll can have your gay orgy club, but don't shit on people who want to invade people a la DaS and DeS. The best invasions I've had in any games were the ones where you were facing a host and phantoms, but in 3 it's so common random invasions are difficult to get ANY enjoyment out without a lot more effort. There is nothing explicitly wrong with that in and of itself. But as far as I'm concerned DaS3 PVP is almost as bad as BB PvP.
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>>337849139
I see, thanks
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>>337837561

hahaha so funny redditor xd such troll many mess
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>>337836127
this will literally never happen if you stopped invading
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>>337848962
That is really retarded, then.
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>>337835923
They could balance it like they do with bosses. For each sprit the invader gets stronger.
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>>337849215
whoops wrong image
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>>337835665
watch?v=Ckm0Phwp35o
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>>337849483
>Assassins Creed Icon
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>>337849215
>>337849483
Passwords are the cancer killing Souls.

Glad that it's a dead series after this. I'll always remember the good times I had with DaS1.
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>>337835665
Don't get the hate for this thing

I always keep one on me if the guy invading me tries to run behind enemies and camp it out
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>>337849435
Oh man, this idea is so fucking cool. This would be the best thing.
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>>337836127
seed is fucking hilarious mate, I just want to grab the dragonchaser ashes. endure my speedrun with me.
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>>337848803
lupin thrall axe is that you
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>>337835665
I make fair builds for fightclubs and cheaper builds for invasions

I mostly do invasions and you kind of need to be a little cheap in order to deal with ganks
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>>337849716
Invaders forget that the only way to reliably get these is to lose to invaders, they think it's just some item everyone gets dozens of for free.
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>minding my own business trying to clear archdragon peak
>some fag invades me
>beat him down to 10% hp and accidentally aggro an NPC
>he chases me with the NPC to try for the doubleteam kill
fuck you honorless faggot why not just drink estus
you'd best believe I alt+F4'd my way out of that one
>mfw he invades me again
>mfw I alt+f4 again
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>>337849941
This is what bombs are for bud, if he wants to hug the NPC just chuck grenades at the NPC and kill the invader with the splash damage.
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>>337849230
>don't want estus spam
>doesn't want gank squads (?)

So you want a varied arena (?), pontif duels with occasional gank squads? And no estus spam?

How could your desires be implemented?

Also what is wrong with fight clubs aside from same arena?
(Keep in mind fight clubs exist FOR quick duels, and FOR NO estus chugging)
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>>337849941
Enjoy your Soft buns babby.
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>>337848771
I wasn't expecting to get 1 hit by some faggot using a glitch

I know better now
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>>337850103
black firebombs work so well in pvp, the tracking is so good and it has such a good lock-on range
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>>337849941
Not only are you utter shit, but you really believe that there is some secret honor code to any souls game outside of designated duel areas.

Everyone laugh at this retard who can't even play the game.
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>>337850148
whats the glitch?
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>invade guy with 2 phantoms
>kill them both
>host runs off to the bonfire to summon more phantoms
>host rolls around waiting for the phantoms, healing as needed
>3 more phantoms show up over the course of 10 minutes
>kill them all
>host eventually runs out of estus
>Connection Error

200% platinum mad.
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>>337836361
I help them all the way to the boss and either start clapping or sit down right after going through the fog.

Then when they die I spam the "Sorry" carving
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>>337849928
actually you get them for killing invaders
not one every immediate invader kill, but 2-4 will usually earn you a seed
so gank squads are well rewarded
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>>337845836
I would just like to point out that dual charms actually work against the rock flesh buff on havel's greatshield. So I'm fairly certain that they will work against iron flesh.
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>doin aldrich invasions
>everyones a fuckin red phantom
is this some sort of glitch? the mobs were even ignoring them and i got gangbanged

also anyone experience this other glitch
>die while aldrich invading
>UNTENDED GRAVES
>lose all my souls
>while i died in aldrich area
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>>337849941
nigga don't be an honorfag
and don't accidentally aggro NPCs
you're the host, move your ass somewhere else. you can just walk to the boss door and he'll be sitting around scratching his balls, wasting his own time.
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>>337850136
I don't want quick duels, I want the cat-and-mouse style invasions that DaS and DeS had. "Honorable" duels are filled with people who are optimized for PvP. and I can see why people like that, but I find it pretty uninteresting. The real fun is in specialized random invasion builds geared toward the area you are invading. Invading a person going through PVE is a totally different experience. Duels are not the true nature of Souls multiplayer, random invasions to impede the progress of others IS the primary function of invasions. Not a bad fighting game, which duel are.
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>Summoned by a tarkus cosplayer
>Barrage his shit with magic
>He just jumps off a cliff when he was 1 hit away from dying
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>>337850136
>>337850669
Also I don't care about estus spam, anyone can do it so it is what it is.
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>>337836127
>le mad invader because no friends
lmao stay mad faggot ahahahaha
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>autoaim qte combat
>gitgud

lol
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>>337850892
>not playing unlocked
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>>337836361
>join darkmoon
>get summoned into other peoples worlds randomly
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>>337846556
fight clubs are a thing retard
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Get a few friends, camp bridge, git gud.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4k9PXB6qkbE
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Alright, admit it. Which of you kiddies are running through levels with phantoms? It's bad enough summoning 3 phantoms for bosses, but just for running through a level?
I don't believe no one here isn't doing it, it's entirely too common unless all of /v/ is going through the entire game unembered.
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>>337851264
garbage island
baby
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>>337851423
>go non embered mode
>get to the boss door
>use ember

thats me. areas are easier to clear knowing you cant be invaded, especially the fucking dungeon
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>>337851504
Lisa is love, Lisa is life
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>>337851423
I help people through levels (mostly after the pontiff because of the faithful chaos) but I don't summon people at all. It's pretty shit waiting for an invader if you're solo though
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>Get summoned for PVP at High Wall
>Roflstomp
>Summoned again by same guy
>Just as I'm about to beat him again he rolls away, takes a sippy, pops a seed, and runs away
>Look for him, quit and wait by Pus of Man
>Eventually runs from outta nowhere past me and the Pus
>Just wait at the top of the ladder for a while
>Eventually go look for him after like 10 minutes
>See prism stone near the shortcut
>Approach lift and pull lever
>Dude comes outta nowhere and backstabs me
>Take fight outside
>Beat him again anyway
>Point down
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>>337851423
During my first playthrough I went through almost the enter game unembered, sans the fews times I didn't die after beating bosses. I summon for other characters with different builds because I just want to kill the boss faster. I only summon before the boss though, going through the areas don't take long.
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>>337850669
Can't help you there

Want to impede pvers, you can't expect them to not attempt to stop you at all costs
Had you invaded me you'd have had exactly what you wanted aside from possibly winning

Your desires are primarily luck based, I see no particular difference between this game and the two previous near release

Nothing can be done to consistantly give you what you want
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>>337835665
>Host thinks I'll die from trash mobs
>Just run through the area dragging the biggest guys I can find towards them
This game is the easiest of the 3 when it comes to just running without killing anybody. The last thing I'm gonna do is stop and collect souls for the host.
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>>337851423
I've only summoned like twice for bosses.
I had a friend offer to help me with the game and I summoned him early on and it just made the game a cakewalk, so I stopped summoning.

It's just not fun getting carried like that.
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>>337836127
>invader sits there and runs throughout the level hiding behind enemies waiting for you to deplete your resources or die
>huuurrr us can't use seed
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>invade lothric castle
>spawn near the dragon barracks bonfire
>notice a giant seed active
>3 phantoms and the host running towards the spawn to greet me
>black crystal out
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Pvp is the only thing this game has to offer anymore for me. Been stuck for over a week on Prince Lothric, Nameless King and Champion Gundyr. Dozens of tries combined. I'm too shit but I refuse to summon. Been exclusively pvping since and it's more fun than PvE. I wish they'd make some sort of arena fighting game without the insufferable lag and design choices but keeping the core souls gameplay.
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>>337851827
Except this game aciveley encourages plyers to summon phantoms, and because it is early in the game's life there are a lot of them. The issue is that there is practicaly no challenge to the person who summons 2-3 phantoms. I had made all manner of invasion builds in all previous games, and only in this game am I constantly met with gankers and cheesers. That happened in the old games, too, but here it is out of control. If you never got to enjoy the way invading was, then I'm sorry, but the way multiplayer is in 3 is a weird mutation of what it was and what it represented.

Invading was also much harder in DaS, so it felt earned.
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>>337848037
>mfw finding out you can roll through it without getting flung
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How does the obscuring ring work anyway? Can you take it off and put it on during an invasion and still have it work?
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>>337849941
>embered
>"minding my own business"

You pay a price for that extra health, bucko.
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>boreal valley before 2nd bonfire
>usual 3v1 bs
>let them chase me towards the little plaza with the flame witch
>they all stop short of going through the archway afraid of fighting some trash enemies with me there
>spam applause and pointing emotes while all 3 stand there staring at me doing nothing
>eventually charge them out of boredom, took down one phantom but the other two got me

You guys notice a lot of the squads run around with great swords while a lot of the 1v1 guys use straight swords or estocs
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>>337849010
One spawns each time you banish an invader, only one will be under the tree at a time though so be sure to pick it up.

Either be a man and face a finger alone, or be a scrub and set up your own gank squad to farm seeds
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>>337852713
>game automatically embers you right next to that area for beating the dragon
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>>337852649
what? it works all the time in pvp. you just turn invisible after a certain range approximate to the player
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>fight le epin camera angle boss
>breathes fire
>move to side of head
>get hit by fire anyways

nice hitboxes from

i also love that you have no depth perception on this area because of the le edgy dark clouds
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>>337851264
terrible

where's the sport in it
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>>337851423
first playthrough i didn't summon unless i was struggling, like in that fucking bottleneck in dragon barracks with four dudes trying to rape your asshole.

subsequent playthroughs when i just needed to get through areas to get items for pvp, you best believe i summoned every goddamn phantom i could and ganked every red along the way
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>>337837142

Straight Swords have phantom range. Depending on how far you can roll, you'll most likely get hit once more by a straight sword even if you roll away.
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>>337851734
Does anyone know what episode of Bugs Bunny this is from?
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>>337851423
>"I can't deal with 3 people" the post
Literally git literally good
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>big pvp battles being a selling point for DaS3
>how they actually play out
>host, three whites/sunbros, blues, reds, purples
>they all passive-agressively walk in circles around each other
>suddenly someone throws a blow
>all hell breaks loose and everyone ninja flips all over the fucking place
I don't get this game
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I have no idea where to park twinks at.
I've tried +4/SL80 and it doesn't seem to get much action. Even +10/SL80 was pretty slow compared to +10/SL120.

I made a twink at +2/SL50, seems to work out decently in the swamp. Kind of bored of SL120 when people just run around 1 shotting each other with hornet ring or cheesy 100-0%/100-20% deathcombo weapons like Spiked Mace. I like longer engagements, especially with a friend.

Twin Princes Greatsword is so fun to stun with from across the world while you coordinate with a friend.
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>>337848393
>>337848597
Pretty sure you can still buff a weapon with blessed infusion, so there's that.
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>>337853275
Are you having fun playing a game being carried like a little baby, anon?
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>>337853247
Looks like Wabbit Trouble (1942)

Fat Elmer Best Elmer

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2fboe9
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>>337853640
>337853640
Man this post made me release just how shitty dark souls pvp is in general.
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>>337852291
How can anybody be stuck on the twin princes? He telegraphs for 10 minutes and the only tricky part is avoiding the barrage of birdshit the younger brother throws up.

you do realise the only way to defeat the second stage is by killing the younger brother hanging on his back? Strafe around, get a few hits in, avoid next attack, repeat
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>>337852908
Its more about comedy then sport
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>>337853640
try SL20/+2. there's a surprising amount of variety if you're creative and skilled enough to get to whatever you need.

running a chaos orb/sacred flame pyro right now and shit is cash.
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i keep invading only to end up having to deal with a fucker and his gank squad

jesus christ it happened 5 times today, 3 of them used that fucking giant seed too
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>>337853719
true, theres also a blessed red n white shield near the rats by eigor, need a bow and its above in a hanging body
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>>337853750
I enjoy shitting on little faggots that like to grieve other players, not so fun when you're the one being grieved huh?
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>>337853910
i don't see the humor in it, either

also, than*
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In case if you guys didn't know.
The rolling attack slash of the Astora Greatsword actually count as a trusting attack, so you can buff it with the Leo ring to get 1k3 damage counters on people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Pb--6cDbpY
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>>337854280
The difference is that the people who are invaded are given tools to deal with griefers

Invaders are not
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>>337853943
I'll give it a try. I guess the most active places would be wall/settlement/swamp?
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>>337854280
>game mechanics are griefing
I don't mind gankers at all personally, but don't be a retard
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>New Gravelord covenant in DLC
>New Gravelords allow you to invade worlds that already have friendly phantoms
>When you spawn you spawn alongside NPC invaders to help you out
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>>337853873
I had the same trouble with Aldrich in thr first few tries: bad luck. The AI fucked me over. Constantly having 4 attacks active at the same time, getting hit by ine is guaranteed and then it's pretty much over. Tried summoning Orbeck but he dies pretty much immediately, can't take aggro away from him.
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I'm pretty new at souls game I played ds 1 a bit I only needed to gedt Notos soul, but stopped at the tomb of giants and I played bloodborne blind once.
Ds3 is the first time I actually participated in PvP, but I was suprised at how much I got invaded in this game.
Sometimes I got invaded while I was fighting an invade and after killing those 2 invaders I got invaded by another invader.
How does this happen I never summon phantoms or anything.
I never even met an invader when I was playing bloodborne or ds1.
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Best weapons to twink with?
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>>337854478
>its ANOTHER invasion/PvP covenant
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>>337851423

I only embered for bosses that killed me one or two times. Then I'd go through the next area and if I died, I wouldn't ember up.

Only boss I summoned for was Hawthorne for Oceiros because I thought this was like DaS2 where I'd need to summon him and have him survive the fight to complete his quest. I only saw his sign because I was still embered from the Dancer Fight
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>>337854303
Of course you don't, you must be the type of scrub we kill everyday for lols
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>>337854715
What kind of covenant do you want?
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>>337837295
What weapon is that it looks cool?
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>>337854841
>implying i don't bc out
>implying i don't find a nice comfy place to chameleon in

i don't play games i can't win, homie
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>>337854471
3 summons is literally game mechanics also, bitch nigga
>>337854409
cry about it
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>>337855124
The darksword
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>>337854964
Something new, creative and refreshing senpai.
They also need to bring back sin.
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>>337855152
Well no shit hence me saying I don't mind gankers at all. I was just pointing out the stupidity in your statement when you call them griefers.
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>>337855143
Oh I see plenty of bc, I just assume those people are 12 and afraid of any challenge in life.
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>>337854364
Love how estocs/straight swords have the length of ultra greatswords except 5x faster and can actually punish rolls.

So many imbalance issues and technical issues with Dark Souls 3. It's obvious they skipped balancing and optimization. I bet they're going pull a scholar "fixed up" edition and charge full price.
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>>337855152
>acting hard over the internet because he and his three lovers can press buttons when they see the color red

anybody else have that one kid in gradeschool who thought he was a gangster?
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>>337854478
Honestly, I'd be fine with the old gravelording. That is, if they fix perma-gravelording and don't limit it to NG+, and make it a bit more meaningful. Maybe make it so it'll give priority to worlds with phantoms
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>>337836361
>join darkmoon
>get summoned into other peoples worlds randomly
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>>337855208
>bring back sin
This, I don't know why both Blue Sentinels AND Blade of the Dorkmoons exist. Not a lot of people have way of the blue equipped, sin would help Darkmoons get those succulent ears.
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>>337853640

>twink
>SL50

you're doing it wrong.

after my first game, I made a second file and there were a fuckton of purple signs at the first bonfire on the highwall. the people usually had names like "A Friend" and then had the white phantom ring on to trick dumb noobies who summoned them. I summoned one of them for giggles and he waved at me. I immediately backstabbed him and he pulled out the spear from Nameless King and kicked my shit in.
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>>337855359
>b8
do you feel smug imagining someone else being mad or do you only get off when they actually get mad
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>>337854483
Aldrich is fun
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>>337835932
whoa bro sweet i loved 2007 too so funny
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>>337835665
Besides Sunbros, what is the most active covenant to get summoned in? I wanted to be a blue but I heard they are dead. At the moment I'm leaning towards aldritch faithful as I hear it's pretty active.
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>Invade at Cathedral
>Blue phantom so-and-so has died
>Immediately get a pale forked tongue just for showing up
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>>337854691
Demon GA is great with tsorigs ring, it's doable at sl 20 with 23 str plus stat rings
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>>337855860
Aldrich Faithful at Sl40-60 with +6 weapon was very active for me. I'd have to unequip the covenant item if I wanted to do something else.
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>>337855526
People made a discovery about Darkmoon / Blue Sentinel summoning. Apparently From being the coding masters that they are made it so "new" accounts are prioritized for being summoned. In other words, your place in the queue is determined by how old your account ( Steam / PS4 / Xbox One ) is. There is a Family Share workaround on Steam that you can't do on the other platforms that works, people get summoned non-stop.
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>>337855647
He is, but like with Lothric it often happens that the magic orbs and soul spear are active at the same time. Dodging is RNG for at that point and one of the attacks will get me cause I'm a shitter. To give an example: Dragonslayer Armor took me ten tries before I beat him.
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>>337856041
Tell me more

or at least where I can get a straight answer on what it is you're speaking of
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>>337835923
That'd be literally retarded. I'm invading someone's game and attempting to halt their progress and fucking their shit up. Each side has an unfair advantage, I get the advantage of popping up and forcing you to retake an ember, and summonfags get the advantage of having backup to balance out the invasion.
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>>337855998
I'm Sl 102 with a +10 wep but meh might as well give it a try. It was probably a bad idea to wait until right before the final boss to join a covenant but too late to change that now.
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>INVADING NEEDS TO BE EQUAL THE HOST SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SUMMON AS MANY PHANTOM AS HE WANTS

Maybe you shouldn't invade MY world then, Rosaria's Cucks. Go join a fight club or lay down a red summon sign if you want equal fights.
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>>337845265
How's this?
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>be a sunbro in the area just after pontiff's
>get summoned constantly
>just want to farm the Sullyvahn's beasts and co-op
>it's always shitters summoning me for PvP
>sit down and watch, refuse to engage
>clap at host after they get slain

Man, I just want the co-operation and not shitter bodyguard duty.
If I'm summoned, then I co-op and defend accordingly. If I'm summoned DURING an invasion, I'm watching them get the shit kicked out of them.
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>>337856626
Maybe you shouldn't use embers and play ONLINE, shitter
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>>337856781
what'd you expect, that area is the pvp hotspot
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>>337853797
Wow. Thanks for the quick response.
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>>337856626
Both the thingw you're replying to and complaining about are dumb. Invasions were made to rebalance the game if you summon help. Introduce a human element to help out the AI. Demon's Souls was the only game that got it right. Blue phantoms and especially seeds are stupid because they introduce another element against the invader. Which is dumb because this defeats the entire purpose of invasions in the first place. The moment counteracting invasions started was the moment invasions should have been taken out completely. They clearly don't fit the paradigm anymore.
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>>337835665
Why do people get mad when i attack them when start to do buff ups the moment they get into the ring.

Im not goku. Im not going to let you power up. Why would I. This is a duel sure but if you wana buff up take the risks of being punished

And then after i hit them they chug estus flasks. Why?
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>>337856821
Don't be upset when I alt+f4 all over your face
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>>337857148
alt-f4 and black crystal are the last refuge of the weak and feeble
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>Invade some faggot in cathedral
>Has a friend with him
>Summons 2 more phantoms
>Standing on Giant's walkway next to sleeping giant
>These niggers are actually killing the giant with bows because they cant just walk past him
>Sit there for 20 minutes white branched as that statue of a woman being raped by a raccoon.

People that play this game are actual fucking retards. Dark Souls 3 was built to hand hold these fucking assholes.

It actually pisses me off that I can't invade without them summoning 18 people before I can even reach them.
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>>337855435
but its okay to act hard for ganking someone trying to do pve content?
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