Why is Sonic getting slower and slower with each game?
>>337817676
BLUE ARMS WTF
>>337817676
these guys can't make a good sonic game to save their lives, how fast he runs doesn't really matter at this point
BUT
DURING
THE
STONE
>>337817676
It's pretty simple actually: Only the first game on this list was a Sonic game. The other two were a Mario game with a Sonic skin and a Ratchet and Clank game with a Sonic skin. Let's see what they give us in a month, or so on Sonic's 25th and then we'll pass judgement. Sound good?
>>337817676
why tape his shoes?
>>337817984
>These guys
You are aware that a completely different studio comprised of Naughty Dog ex-janitors were in charge of Boom, right?
>>337817676
Honestly it would be an interesting plot point for a game or comic if sonic was losing his speed. Probably have a reason to have other character besides Tails, Knuckles or Amy in the game.
>>337818730
They did it in Sonic Labyrinth on the Game Gear. It wasn't fun.
>>337817676
People complained that Sonic was too fast.
>>337817676
>mario maker icons
kek
Sonic Lost World was an attempt to make Sonic control better, and also an attempt to attract Mario fans. Naturally that ended up meaning less focus on going fast.
Sonic Boom is an atrocity. "Speed" sections aren't fast, "combat" sections are absolute fucking shit, "platforming" sections are babby's first platformer, etc.
and that's not accounting for the shitty, cartoony designs, the glitches, etc
>>337819947
Nah. Here's how it went down:
>People complained that Sonic wasn't controllable enough.
>These were complaints that came around during the Shadow/06 days.
>Then The Boost Trilogy came out and everyone was just fine with how Sonic controlled.
>But Sonic Team somehow THEN gets the "people are having control issues" memo 6 years too late and thinks that it's a current issue
>Now the only way for Sonic to actually feel like Sonic is if you hold down 3 buttons in Lost World
Christ, SEGA. There's being out of touch and then there's you.
>>337817676
He's not slowing down, everything else is getting faster.
>>337817676
Because they can't keep shitting 500KM Maps/per level for each game
>>337820674
>everyone was just fine with how Sonic controlled.
Umm no
Sonic controlled like shit in the Boost Games
Only 3D Games with good controls were the Adventure Games(they still weren't satisfying controls like the Genesis games but at least you felt in control on those games)
>>337820674
>3 buttons
you mean 1 right?
you have one run button and the others are spindash/peel out
doesn't matter the game was shit anyway
>>337821146
>Meanwhile fans have been getting it right for years with little to no resources.
Anyone got that webm of that fangame guy showing off his Mach Boost mechanic? What happened to that guy anyway? Did he stop working on it?
>>337817676
The problem is SEGA Keeps farting around and trying to cater to the fanbase.
>A Sonic game plays really fast, lets say Unleashed
Group 1:"Loving the speed here a SEGA, keep it up"
Group 2:"Seriously Sonic is way too fast, slow him down a bit DAMN IT"
>Next game Sonic feels slower than the last game
Group 1: Is it me or do Sonic feels a bit slower like he did the last game? What the heck SEGA Why?
Group 2: Thank you SEGA for taking on our feedback.
It Never ends.
>>337817676
He's getting old, anon.
>>337822135
>>337820674
Boost has control issues, although they're more "Sonic handles like a flying brick" more than "this is unplayable," and at least the Unleashed style stages are fully designed around that fact.
In Shadow/06 days, Sega had toned down Sonic's movement from SA1/2 standards because he was really twitchy to control (and admittedly, SA-era Sonic is the best 3D Sonic has controlled -- wherever you pointed the stick, that's where Sonic went, the real issue is how the game tried to map everything onto two buttons for no good reason, so you'd bounce attack into the pit under the rings you tried to light dash through).
>>337820891
this is another reason, you're literally making several miles of level that will be beaten in less than 8 minutes at worst
>>337822135
I wonder whose fault that is for pumping out wildly different games over two decades trying to capture as many different audiences as possible, fracturing their fanbase to the point where every single person has a completely different idea of what a Sonic game should be.
>>337817676
He's knees aren't what they used to be.
>>337822135
Can't really blame 'em. Show me any Sonic fan and I'll show you a person who has a very different opinion of what a Sonic game is than the next person.
Finding a happy medium that will please the MOST Sonic fans is difficult to do, especially when you don't actually pay attention to what your fans are telling you.
>>337822651
Pretty much this, yeah.
In fact, many fans have resorted to playing fan games and ROM hacks exclusively because those fans can collaborate and work together to create a Sonic experience that caters to certain types of Sonic fans and advertise it as such. You've got ROM hacks and custom engines for 2D, UDK, Blitz and soon-to-be Unreal 4 for 3D. If you don't like how a fangame dev handled the engine? Change it to your liking and make your own interpretation!
>>337822651
Sonic Team really needs to sort themselves out.
>>337823048
>Can't really blame 'em
Your right I can't blame them, Because fuckers like him is what ruining the franchsie
>>337821614
>What happened to that guy anyway?
That guy was just posting the same webms over and over again in every Sonic-related thread, so people asked him to stop until he had something new to show off.
>>337817676
maybe your eyes just get faster
>>337823443
>Began the trend of throwing random garbage sidemodes into Sonic games to pad them out/try and attract more people
>Brought back NiGHTs just to kill it again.
>Generally ran his companies flagship franchise into the ground
I like to imagine his only contribution to the level design of S3&K was the barrel.
>>337817676
You can't move as fast with a high center of gravity
Because it took them 15 years to realise that speed was just a gimmick to sell the platforming.
It's taken them another 5 years to realise they're shit at making platfomers.
>>337824494
>only contribution to the level design of S3&K was the barrel.
It's like he is just there to troll the Sonic games in general.
>>337824964
Sega didn't even make Lost Worlds and Boom
They're licensed
>>337825105
Lost World on Wii U was made by Sega.
>>337823821
You rang?
I actually have a lot of new info to share, if you folks are interested, but moreover, I have a conundrum that my team and I have been going back and forth on:
So, our level will have many intertwining paths and, as it should, it will have lots of checkpoints at key locations.
Our question to you guys is this: would it, or would it not be cool to be able to warp between previously-activated checkpoints in order to promote exploration, or do you feel that it would harm the aspect of running around the environment on your own and backtracking in a more natural way if you so desired?
>>337826071
>do you feel that it would harm the aspect of running around the environment on your own and backtracking in a more natural way if you so desired?
if you don't like it, just don't use it. i don't think the existence of this feature would preclude people from exploring naturally if that's their preference
>>337817676
He's getting older. Look at the actual images of Sonic.
>Generations: Rounded torso, shorter
>Lost World: Has a definitive chest and stomach rather than just torso, slightly longer quills
>Boom: Even taller, longer quills, more quills, darker quills, clothes
He's just getting older. Can you run as fast as you could when you were 14?
>>337826071
That's fair, yeah. Good point. I'll talk to my associates and get their perspectives as well. In the meantime, feel free to ask me anything about the current state of the project! If you have requests to see certain aspects of the level, Sonic's techniques, or the overall goal of the project, just let me know and I'll elaborate as best I can.
Please forgive the lighting in some of these screenshots. We're in between builds.
>>337826894
And I responded to myself. Wait'a go, me. I meant the response for >>337826404
>>337826894
KNOCK KNOCK ITS KNUCKLES
Pic related possible?
>>337828234
Possible, but not our current goal. The current goal is Sonic and Sonic only. The core mechanics are already unlike any 3D Sonic before it, so we thought it best to focus on him before possibly expanding to new characters and play-styles for future releases.
One thing is for sure, though: your desire for momentum-based gameplay is more than covered with our game.
Our strict philosophy states that the player will never, ever have control taken away from them for as long as their feet touch the ground. There will be no automated running sections and no rail-roading splines. Ever.
