I didn't think Street Fighter V flopped THAT hard. Jeez.
>>337787407
literally who the fuck is that
>>337787407
According to Capcoms financial reports from a week or so ago SF V sold abou 1.4 million.
It's sold about 150k on PC.
>>337787628
ZhugeEX is the nigga you go to for real fighting game news.
>>337787407
You know, if it was any other fighter, I'd probably believe it, but I highly doubt such a bare-bones, slow, complete joke of an arena fighter like Pokken could outsell Street Fighter.
Nothing against Wii U, I'm just not a fan of shovelware.
>>337787815
>real fighting game news
is this supposed to be a thing
>>337787849
Wii U users have a higher install base since they have nothing else to play.
lol
As someone who has played both games I can't believe this.
Pokken has a tiny roster and no planned DLC characters.
>at retail
that's because no one buys physical on non-nintendo system anymore
>>337787849
>shovelware
It's anything but. What makes you think it's shovelware
I think it's hilarious that sf5 is worthless, but I also think saying shit like this is super childish.
HAHA THIS GAME SOLD MORE THAN THIS ONE THAT MUST MEAN ITS SUPERIOR IN EVERY WAY IMAGINABLE AND IF YOU HAVE THE BAD ONE AND NOT THE GOOD ONE YOU ARE THE WORST EVER LOL XD
Has a big company ever done that sorta shit or is it just weebs?
On twitter I mean.
>>337787940
It is.
>>337787912
>giving your soul to the digital jew unless there's a heavy discount
No
Doesn't account for digital sales, which are always large for FG's.
>>337787849
>such a bare-bones, slow, complete joke
You're describing Street Fighter V here, buddy. I seriously hope the irony of your own post wasn't lost on you.
>>337787972
like it or not, doesn't change it's slowly taking over
>>337787971
>built from ground up
>fresh ideas
>fleshed out single player mode
>characters that are balanced
Meanwhile SFV is USFIV with new character models and changed just enough to warrant £50.
>>337787849
If anything Street Fighter V is the shovelware in that comparison.
>>337788071
>he never played SFV
Okay.
>>337788071
except gameplay wise it's very different and much better than SF4
>>337788146
>he never played Pokken
Okay.
>>337787407
it was selling for 10$ in the first month
>>337788159
>very different
Its tweaked, if anything.
>>337787940
>style change brings the pace of the game to a fucking halt, swapping from 2D to 3D
>balance comes down to "pick Gengar and win"
>30 fps offline multiplayer
>fanservice is almost nonexistant
If the game were something more like JoJo All-Star Battle, a fanservice game that prioritizes fanbase reaction over competitve play, or straight-up Tekken, highly competive play that sticks to one style of gameplay, then I'd be fine with it, but the feeling I get from playing Pokken is that it's a watered-down DBZ Zenkai Battle Royale with no stage variation, less depth, and no fanservice whatsoever.
Like I'd rather just whip out Smash or Tekken Tag 2 if I was bringing some fighters to a hangout. Everyone I play fightan with on campus dropped that garbage in a week, literally after saying it was going to bury SFV too.
>>337788159
It's the same old street fighter at its core, don't overstate it
>>337787407
>at retail
That's because nobody buys physical anymore.
>>337787407
You don't quite get how big Pokemon is, do you?
>>337788409
You didn't describe anything that makes it shovelware. You described a game that isn't for the FGC, which it isn't.
Do you know what shovelware is?
>>337788537
Shovelware is a garbage game, and that's what Pokken is.
>>337788563
You don't know what shovelware is, gotcha.
>well advertised party game with Pokemon in it outsells the poorly advertised first version of a niche game that will likely see a million standalone expansions
The only newsworthy thing here is that a Wii U game is selling.
>there are people in this thread who haven't played SFV
>these same people think it's garbage without having played it
You're no different than a kid who watches e-celebs for his "gamer facts".
>>337788480
sure wish we'd get some numbers for digital, unless the publisher themselves release the numbers nobody knows
people just keep going "lol FLOP" at pretty much any sales number lately because it just counts retail
>>337788637
>>there are people in this thread who haven't played Pokken
>>these same people think it's garbage without having played it
It's weird how Pokken was in arcades for like a year and was still released extremely unbalanced.
meanwhile SF5 was rushed but somehow is very well balanced
>>337788610
>SFV is poorly advertised
Absolutely untrue. It had TV spots, advertising fucking everywhere, and was the only game out for PS4 that month
>>337788409
I agree with your post but Gengar isn't even that amazing. Pikachu (+/- Libre) or Shadow Mewtwo would better fit this post.
>>337788537
>a game that isn't for the FGC, which it isn't.
Hasn't Nintendo/Bandai hosted various tournaments for this, both pre- and post-release? And they moneyhatted it in to EVO before it even released. Sounds like "for the FGC" angled to me. They just failed at it.
>>337787407
>At retail
Well no shit. It's the Wii U. They don't even really have the option to get it any other way than retail. You think you're gonna download games on your 32gb system?
>>337788637
>there are people in this thread who haven't played SFV
Of course there are when Capcom refuses to unfuck the servers.
>buying a game you can't even play
Literally a reverse PS4.
>>337788674
>if I copy what he's saying, maybe he'll leave my opinion alone!
Go ahead skippy, tell me what makes Pokken so good for you, and then I'll tell you what I love about SFV. We'll have a think-tank on this.
>>337788637
I haven't played it and I think it's garbage.
Not because of the game itself. I just don't play well with fighting games that have 6 attack buttons. I don't use sticks, so being forced to rely on L1 and L2 is kinda off. I need a Saturn controller.
>>337788815
>if I post generalised comments without engaging, I'll appear superior
>better add an anime girl just in case
>>337788637
I've played it extensively, it's a shitty game based around fraudulent rushdowns. This is why the competitive SF scene has turned into a farce of nobodies beating the previous top players and record numbers of EVO entries because now everyone is in with a chance to beat anyone.
SFV is going to get shit on HARD as soon as the next SF is out, people will just play whatever Capcom wants them to.
>>337788652
Publishers will never release that information because it doesn't really matter.
Here's how this stupid sales tracking thing developed. Consumers and industry analysts fooled themselves into thinking that individual unit sales mattered more than profits, so they started collecting data on retailers. Units sold matters for internal use in supply chain management, but it's relatively useless to everyone otherwise. Fanboys started tracking these things because they think it's indicative of relative success. "My favorite thing is more popular than yours!" and so forth. However, unlike retail sales, trackers have no means of determining how many digital copies were sold because they don't have access to xbl/psn/nintendo network. The best guess thus far has been steamspy, and even that is grossly inaccurate for a multitude of reasons such as free weekends and bundled sales.
If developers make money from their games, you will notice this via games. For instance, you can tell that a lot of steam ports are bombs, regardless of units sold, because only a few developers port specific western oriented series on a delayed timetable with generally few changes made. People can feel free to cite any sort of statistic they like from these stupid tracker sites, but in reality, the proof is always in the pudding.
>>337787407
That's probably because Pokken Tournament is targeted at kids, and that rubs /v/ the wrong way.
>>337789190
Publishers release digital sales every quarterly report and will do so any time they want to brag about sales.
Don't talk shit.
>>337789168
>PS4 version
That's like someone saying that Bayonetta is a shitty game and showing your PS3 version.
>>337787407
That is pretty fucking sad. A dead system's fighting game has managed to outsell a multiplat on the PS4. SF must be dead
>>337789361
Most don't because they know a million copies sold that doesn't make any money is a flop no matter how you spin it. $ > popularity, always.
Don't talk shit.
>>337789430
I mean, Wii U owners don't really have much choice. Pokken is one of the only games the system had going for it this year, along with Star Fox.
Not to mention, the Pokemon brand is kinda huge, bigger than Street Fighter, and it appeals to both kids and adults. Like damn, it isn't THAT shocking to see it outsell Street Fighter.
>>337789501
>Most don't because
They all do.
They HAVE to if they're a publicly traded company which almost all are.
>>337789334
Did she win at the Pokken Tournament?
>>337787890
>Wii U users have a higher install base since they have nothing else to play.
>install base
god you are su stupid you cant even use the right word for the joke
>>337789601
She beat both Justin and Diego.
>>337788426
I'd rather play same old tweaked SF than arena Tekken with Pokemons and gimmicks desu. And to play Pokken offline you need two Wii Us which seems silly, but whatever
I wanted to get Pokken as well, but no one on 4chan ever answered me if matchmaking locked to your console region or your actual location.
>>337788426
SFIV wasn't "the same olld street fighter at it's core" hence why they are different
>>337787997
>Doesn't account for digital sales, which are always large for FG's.
this is based on..what?
>>337789392
Yes, the tournament standard on the primary platform which the vast majority of owns have.
The game mechanics are the same or they wouldn't be able to have cross platform play.
>>337788610
>of a niche game
>Street Fighter
>Niche
>>337789704
>>337789901
It's not the 90s anymore, fighting games are niche now.
>>337787407
>in the US at retail
Yeah well Gravity Rush has outsold Pikmin 3 in Finland in digital sales.
PIKMIN BTFO
>>337789760
The nature of fighting games, and my locals. Most people buy fighters so they have 24/7 access to them while at home (aka no disc swapping), and you can bring a whole setup full of games if they're all digital. Just simpler, especially if you play different games.
>>337789392
>PS4 version is literally the standard in tournaments
US PC GAMERS THOUGH AM I RIGHT?
Stupid cunt.
>>337788740
it's pathetic to see the gymnastic of history rewrites people can invent to defend literally facts that go against their delusions.
>>337790554
>Finland is a larger country than USA
>>337790483
Dating sims are a niche.
Fighting games are a genre people want to buy into but keep getting disappointed.
>>337787940
>>337790716
I was pointing out the stupidity of comparing two different games while narrowing it down to a specific country and limiting to retail sales only.
>>337789168
> nobodies beating top players
You're a fucking retard if you think one 18 year old being good at Kumite means shit. It's been nothing but Infiltration and Tokido dominating everything. The nobodies that did well at Final Round are already dying off.
>>337787407
>street fighter V was available digitally
>not just retail
>also available on PC
The desperation nintenyearolds have resorted to in goal post moving to make their console feel relevant, a console Nintendo is actively abandoning, is parhetic.
>>337788725
>Hasn't Nintendo/Bandai hosted various tournaments for this, both pre- and post-release?
https://www.pokkentournament.com/en-us/championship-series
How many times a day do you make this thread?
>>337791557
They make these threads by the hour and the Nintendrone janitor remains passive. Nintentoddlers are pathetic.
>>337792531
>muh nintendo bogeyman
wew lad
SFV sold like shit because they rushed the game out the door for the competitive scene.
I don't understand how they don't realise that most of a game's sales comes from casuals - and they failed to add in anything that casuals would want in a game (i.e. worthwhile single player content).
MKX is a bit of a mess but I have to say they did a pretty decent job on the single player comtent and story mode at least. SFV doesn't even have an arcade mode and the current 'story' mode is a fucking joke. Let's also not mention R O L L B A C K netcode. Why can't can't they get some good netcode like KI has or something?
>>337787407
Think of it like this
-unfinished game
-"pro" gamers are the main input on how
It should feel
-casualized worse than 4 was at release
SF5 fags can deny it all they want but sf5 was a mistake
>>337793457
they still haven't fixed the major issues for SFV on pc
it's shit and steam gave me a refund even though I had 10 hours
>>337792456
how butthurt are you?
>>337792531
>>337791557
good ol' "b.b.b.ut ninteo" boogeyman. As expected from something bad said about a Sony exclusive*
*also available on PC
>people are surprised that a Pokemon game sells well
>>337787407
Most people who bought Street fighter 4 realized that they were duped into buying a shit game. That's why SFV flopped.
Splatoon outsold Bloodborne and Pokken outsold SFV. This is proof that most people are buying PS4s to use as blu ray players.
>>337795651
They're buying them for sports 'n' shooters.
>>337795714
Nope, they are buying them for Winter Soldier, Batman vs Superman, Captain America Civil War, etc.
street fighter 5 is the exact same game it was 20 years ago.
that shit is boring and for black people.
>>337796458
and nips since they're the only ones that win tournaments
>>337787407
Shouldnt have released your game only on the 2 platforms that consist of tards that never buy games, aka sonyggers and PirateCucks
>>337787407
A game that is bashed by both fans and marketers vs a game for a console that doesn't have that much game to begin with and have “Pokemon” on it.
>>337787968
>SF5
>Not weeb
>>337787849
Triggered, street faggot?
You FGCfags are the fucking worst. Stop taking Capcom's cock up the ass you pathetic waste of space.
