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Do consoles hold graphics back?
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>>337780807
Yes. Those aren't even the same games. Doom 3 was gimped as fuck for xbox.
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>>337780879
Also, nice wall textures, consolefags.
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>>337780807
No. There's a reason why MOBAS and Diablo shit require toasters to run. They want as many as possible people to enjoy their games.
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>>337780807
Yes, while the PC has a lot of games with poor graphics (indie shit, free to play shit, etc.), consoles boast 60$ AAA games which are inherently focussed on making graphics their selling point.
These games with a graphical focus are made with consoles in mind and then ported to the PC, where they will not reach the same quality they'd have in the utopia where consoles do not exist and these games were made with the PC in mind.
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PCucks are the biggest graphix whores on the planet. PCucks don't actually play games, they just spend their entire month's paycheck optimizing their "gaming rig" and then when they finally install the game (which takes anywhere from 45 min to 10 hours) they only "play" their precious games in 50 second intervals because they're too busy going back into the graphix menu to change resolution/antianalingusing/3dshadows/nvdia to make sure their game is running at a perfect 60 fps with graphix maxed out. They then take a video proving that their rig can handle their shit game at 60fps with graphix maxed out and post it onto youtube to gloat about it with their fellow PCucks. They then abandon said game and move onto repeat the process with the next "masterpeice" pc game.

They're the most pathetic people on the planet
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yes. and it was literlly proven that devs even disable certain features just so peasants dont feel bad, liek in Watch Dogs
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>>337781175
>consolefags actually think this way
This is why no one likes you.
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>>337781265

>think this way

you mean accepting reality?
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>>337780807
Technically, yes. PC games that are also on consoles are developed on with certain limiters so that they can just rewrite some code instead of making an entirely new game.

But the console market is literally keeping gaming alive as a medium, so it's kinda worth it.
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>>337781175

Eating shit is good and cheap mkay?
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>>337780807
>graphics
Yes
>Art style
No

Art style makes a game much more impressive to me. I don't see PC games as aesthetically pleasing most of the time, but that's just a nitpick.
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>>337781202
>disable certain features
you're referring to the horrid DoF effect that was present in the E3 video?
It makes the game nice to watch but it's disgusting to actually play with it, it makes everything further away than 30 feet completely blurry
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>>337781359
This.
Consoles hold back video game technology but they also sell like fucking hotcakes since the average consumer doesnt want to research about hardware and building a PC, they just want to play their video games.
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Shit developers and publishers hold graphics back. Nothing should stop them from, you know, making all the bells and whistles they created available to the PC version and limiting it in the console versions. Generally, people call this "taking advantage of a platform's capabilities".

Instead, we get "system parity", which is dumb because it's common fucking sense that different systems have different capabilities. In the process, everyone gets fucked.
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>>337781202
if consoles didn't make vidya mainstream then it would still be a niche hobby and not a billion dollar industry.

Without consoles Gone Home would be considered a AAA game and there quite simply wouldn't be enough money in the industry to make games like the witcher.
You should be glad consoles exist.
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>>337781175
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>>337781202
no
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>>337781730
>31st frame
I get what they're saying, but it's wrong
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>>337780807
>left
game made for fun by ten loser cuck swedes in a year achieving masteful graphics and gameplay just for pure love of video games
>right
multi mullion dollar AAA-company made by a famous studio with years of game crafting experience and the latest technologies, game is shit and looks decent at best
This feels like CD Projekt Red just 10 years earlier
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>>337781730
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Consoles are the only thing holding back gaming from "evolving" into a F2P casual shitfest known as PC and mobile gaming.
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>>337780807
Riddick looked very very differently on xbox and pc. Both engine and assets were nearly made from scratch.
And I'm not talking about Dark Athena / HD, I mean the 2004 originals.
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>>337782156
>those shitty blurry textures in several places
wew lad

sure it looks pretty, but that's mostly down to good design rather than any technological advantages
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>>337781730
>Consoles hold back video game technology
That's not what that dev was implying at all. Read >>337781359 carefully again, and you'll notice this gem:

>Developing only for the PC: yes, probably we could get more [in terms of graphics] as there would be nothing else - they would be so focused, like if we could develop only on Xbox One or PlayStation 4.

What he's saying is that if they were developing an exclusive, PC or console, doesn't matter, they could invest in just that platform to get the maximum optimization out of it and make it look good. Porting is the main issue here, since it limits them in terms of time investment in any one platform, and the only way to make deadlines is to create one version that any platform can run, and will never take advantage of the hardware quirks of any one platform.
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>>337782334
stay mad
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>>337782217
They just used higher res textures on PC and a newer shader model. Not sure about the polycount.
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When are you pcucks not spazzing out and getting butthurt?

Hey, there's a new early access survival game out on Steam. Get in on that now lmao
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>>337781330
You have a very warped and poisoned view of reality, bruh.
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>>337782449
>>337782149
>>337780807


Pic very related
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>>337782546
>When are you pcucks not spazzing out and getting butthurt?
>thread clearly started by a butthurt consoletard
Please stop posting
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>>337780807
Yes, undeniably.
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>>337782613
>Tfw someone saved my WebM
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>>337781202
Crysis is still one of the nicest looking games for trees and other foliage, I wish other devs put that much effort in.
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>>337781780
You're right in principle, but in practice devs put 0 effort in porting because they could be working on a new game instead of optimizing the different versions of the one they just put out. Sometimes I wish they would go back to the old days, where devs would make a game for one platform and then other teams would individually port them and optimize them. That would solve a whole lot of issues with PC version getting gimped / console hardware not fully being taken advantage of.
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>>337780879
>Doom 3 was gimped as fuck for xbox.
No wonder it was so shit

Doesnt make sense considering EFBB looks and plays better on xbox than D3 ever did AND its the same engine.

RAGE hasnt aged well either
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>>337782636
>rwarblar f2p moba rararwar
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>>337782613
man those medbays were so retarded, who the hell thought gigantic spikes shooting out of a wall was a good idea for first aid!?
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>>337782156
>>337782418
>12 fps
turn off photo mode and repost
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>>337782546
Well don't know which game you're talking but I'm having fun with Stellaris
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>>337782815
wow this mad
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>>337780807
these threads are fucking ethereal
I can't tell what's a real opinion and what's not
There's actual normies on /v/ who honestly believe PC is bad and consoles don't hold back graphics
And then there's trolls from a bygone era that want to stir some shit with the autists who don't know any better
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>>337781812
>niche hobby
>gone homo
pick one
gone home literally exists because the medium is popular and attracting developers too shitty to clean an indian toilet with.
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>>337780879
no picture shows Doom 3 Xbox. The left is Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay and the right is PC
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>>337783013
i meant right is doom 3 pc
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I'd actually push for more powerful consoles with good graphics than for more powerful pc hardware given how pcs are treated as leftover consumers that don't deserve any care.

Btw, been playing on console lately, controllers aren't as horrible, you can do precision stuff with them actually and this is learned and you adapt to it soon enough.
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>>337782815
>b-bullshot mode!
>It doesn't really look like that!!1!

stay mad
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>>337780807
Here's the thing: It doesn't matter. PC was the go to platform, the primary platform, the platform driving development. Then torrenting and other forms of piracy got seriously rampant and people on /v/ and everywhere else joked about how devs couldn't do shit.

Devs then moved to consoles, their exclusives went to consoles, they made more money off consoles, and now consoles come first and PC is an afterthought for most devs and a testing ground for indie titles.

It doesn't matter because that's how it is now. We made the choice, and no matter how much people want to talk about how piracy isn't exclusive to pc and had no impact, here we are.
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The only 30 FPS game I can enjoy is FFXI, probably because of a combo of nostalgia and no 60 FPS option.
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>>337782418
>>337782156
The screenshots really don't do Uncharted 4 justice. I don't know what it is, if the PS4 screenshot feature compresses them badly or what, but the game looks so much better in motion.
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>>337783425
ok whats the problem here
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Consoles could hold graphics back, but for the fact that devs can hardly do any better already without making budgets impossible and games cost way too much.
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Consoles force devs to try and make games look better on lower end hardware, which carries over to PC versions of the game most of the time. So there's that. But then again, shitty devs design their games for consoles first because that's where they get the most money so they make shitty PC ports. So it goes both ways.
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>>337783481
yea it sucks that happens
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>>337783559
An emotional screenshot
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>>337783425
I thought that was a real imagine with a photoshopped dog for a second.
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>>337783654
nope
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>>337783675
so
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>>337783481
ps4's share button compresses the fuck out of images, it's ok if they're simple images with a small palette of colors but more complicated images end up losing loads of detail.
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>>337783315

kek. dat 24 fps.
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>I can't enjoy games with 30fps and gamepads ;_;
>Consoles are evil
>Why doesn't pc get those juicy looking console games!
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>make it big through PC gayming.
>CEO hates PC gayming for some reason.
>we will NEVER again do a PC gaym!
>MOBAS and xbone exclusives from here on out, boys.
>let's launch our own pretend steam while we're at it.
>and a russian F2P call of duty.
>oh no, we're bankrupt. I even have to sell some of my expensive cars, and shit.
>this was all the fault of the PC master race.
>but now I have to take out the kinect trash from Ryse and make it a 4k native game.
>oh shit, it sold so many copies.
>damn, I hate the master race.
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>>337783843
this mad
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>>337781449
>But the console market is literally keeping gaming alive as a medium, so it's kinda worth it.

This should be common sense and should occur to anyone before they decide to argue about PCs vs Consoles.

Like are you actually imagining an idealized world where all big budget video games are developed on and for PC?
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>>337783843

He's certainly playing it with the better machine at a higher framerate and resolution than you.

Pic related, I play this game on the better machine, at a higher framerate and resolution that you do on your pc.
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>>337783843
>lower framerate makes a game less fun

I bet my pc is beefier than yours but I still enjoyed the fuck out of uncharted 4. The shooting sections anyway, the first hour of the game is boring as fuck.
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>>337783425
Dog, aquarium, chest,remote, and blanket look like shit everything else is fine.
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>>337783934

i have both a PC and a PS4, i really don't care for your petty console wars, but i like seeing how people just straight up lie to themselves to feel better.
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You get that pinion thing a few hours before the end of the game and it makes the platforming so much better, it made those last few climbing sections actually feel like a puzzle platformer instead of it just being filler. Why the fuck don't you get it at the start of the game?
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>>337783651
This. It's not consumers hardware it's the manufacturer's production.

The cost of current graphics has shot up exponentially in the last 10 years. You need significant investment in cost and time to get marginally better visual results.
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>>337780807
No capitalism does.
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>>337784060
you're the one telling straight up lies here bub.
The framerate in U4 only buckles in one or two places in the whole game and it's not even during proper gameplay, just a shitty prologue setpiece
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>>337784060
i have a pc and ps4 too so
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>>337783934
>>337783946
>>337783953

>console players
>literally 14 year olds
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>>337783837
>>337783481
>ps4's share button compresses the fuck out of images, it's ok if they're simple images with a small palette of colors but more complicated images end up losing loads of detail.

PS4 jpg compression is terrible and makes the screenshots blurry. If you want good quality screenshots you have to change the setting so they're save as png. You can then copy them over to PC and convert them to jpg.
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>>337784178
stay upset
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Shitty developers/publishers hold games back more than consoles. If anything, consoles expanded the market for gamers so that AAA games can have bigger budgets because they have more customers. If those console gamers couldn't buy consoles, they either wouldn't be gamers, or they would have pretty low end PCs and developers would tailor their games to that.
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>>337783941
Let's take PC out of the equation: the traditional console model causes kikery such as exclusivity deals and arbitrary online fees, in addition to locking games onto systems that simply cannot play them because of their poor hardware. The world would be better off if they were entirely replaced with open standards so monopolizing companies wouldn't be able to do those things. The actual details of those open standards are irrelevant.
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>>337784118
I hate this image so much. More triangles mean you can do more detail. That's just the same model that they upped and lowered the tris.
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>>337782156
>>337782418
>>337782902
I haven't seen one sharp screenshot of this game.
Everything is blurry as fuck just so you can't make out the shit looking details.
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>>337784183
how do i do that
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>>337784178
>I have no argument so I'll just call them 14

again, stay mad
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>>337784118

You know what's shot up in cost even more? Telling a fucking story about werewolves, vampires, and undying knights.

Somehow, this basic task can no longer be accomplished unless you've got a college degree, but it also means you need at least 200 people employed, and miserable 'cutting-edge' full silky smooth cinematic FPS, with an attached letterbox and 4 hours of gameplay.
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>>337781812
>consoles made vidya mainstream

Maybe in the 70s till early 90s

After that PC gaming has been the leading platform for games.

PC has had more games made(even excluding indie and kikestarter) than Xbox and Sony combined.
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>>337784118
This image is fucking retarded.
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>>337784183
Damn no shit? Wish I had known this earlier. Oh well, cheers anyway
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>>337784118
This is the same reason that graphics haven't advanced since the year 1990.
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>>337780807

Yes and the irony is that console devs care way more about graphics than gameplay and so does the audience.
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>>337784118
I agree with you but don't ever post that fucking gay image again.
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>>337784214
>Shitty developers/publishers hold games back more than consoles

This. It blows my mind people here don't realize this. Even though we get ugly and poorly optimized PC games constantly.

Fuck, look at XCOM2. That isn't even remotely a great looking game nor is it well optimized and it's a PC exclusive.

It baffles me how people here can be so fucking stupid.
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>>337784253
see
>>337784183
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>>337784253
the fucking ps4 screenshot compression makes me so fucking mad
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>>337782156

Is this low res stretched out shit a clip from Youtube or is the game naturally just blurry as fuck?

I'm assuming the latter since obviously a piece of trash like a PS4 would struggle with something like a decent resolution.
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>>337780807
Consoles open the market up to the technologically illiterate crowd that's too poor and unfocused to understand and manage the devices they operate.

Consoles appeal to the type of person who buys Apple because it's "intuitive," and thus are a big source of revenue for the industry.
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>>337781812
>if consoles didn't make vidya mainstream then it would still be a niche hobby and not a billion dollar industry.
The sheer amount of ignorance in your post is astoundingly hilarious.

Thanks for the laugh, you retard.
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>>337784227
Sure, I totally agree but you're dreaming baby.
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>>337784373
That's ripped from the movie anon.
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>>337784337
people choose to be stupid on /v/ just for the sake to keep their dumb arguing going.

If people were honest, /v/ would be a dead board.
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I dunno,dota lol tf2 and counterstrike look pretty good

And all those greenlight games
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>>337780807
Technically, yes. They must develop for the bottom demoninator.

Actually, no. Most gamers are extremely casual and don't care about the quality of the graphics. Mobile games and other styles of cheap, addictive, easy-to-develop games with micro-transactions are the most played games in the industry.
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>>337784276
>PC gaming has been the leading platform for games
yeah, nah

console games still rake in the vast majority of video game profits, even if pc has more games.
Not even accounting for the fact that a huge amount of today's PC gamers got into games by playing on consoles.
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>>337784267
Can't remember right now, but I think you go into the "share gallery" or whatever from the XMB and at the bottom it should say to press the "options" button for share options or something, you can then change various settings like file format, being able to take screencaps by holding the share button down, etc.
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>>337784178

Jokes on you, I have both pc and several consoles.

Can't wait for your anal tribulations.
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>>337784417
>I have no argument but my autism still makes me reply

Thanks for the laugh, you retard.
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>>337784458
nope the game has scenes from the movie
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>>337784373
> ratchet and clank the movie selling point was literally how they used the same graphics as the in game models.

Wow, consoles are even starting to the whole back CGI movies now.
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>>337784401

>>337784183
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>>337784496

The actual numbers disagree with this. There are more active, buying people on steam than there are total owners of all current gen consoles.

That's just on steam, and only the people who buy videogames there. Not all the people running only F2P games, playing on origin, or what have you.
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>>337781812
>if consoles didn't make vidya mainstream then it would still be a niche hobby and not a billion dollar industry.

So it would still be good if consoles fucked off and stopped turning games into cinematic experiences for plebs and generic shooters for dudebros?
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>>337784496
Are we talking net profits for the developers?
Or sales count?

Because they lose on both.

They may seem to get more money because they cost way more but PC games have a higher return for the developer.
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>>337784647
There's also GOG, as small as it is. And people that buy physical copies.
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>>337781812
Do you know why the North American Video Games Crash of 1983 has "North American" in its name?
Because every other developed country played games on fucking home computers
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>>337784567

Ratchet and Clank is gorgeous I'm not surprised. The fucking screenshots I take do not make it justice.
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>>337781359

>Quote from Sonys latest bought out fucktoy

Funny, there was a Witcher 1 and 2 without them (the xbox port was an afterthought after release of 2, and was funded using PC sales)
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>>337784337
>>337784470
>get ignored to oblivion because they're right

every time /v/
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>>337780807
Apparently not.
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>>337784557
You stated that consoles made video games mainstream. You are demonstrably, objectively wrong.

Pong made video games mainstream in fucking 1972. It was an arcade game. Subsequent ARCADE games continued the trend of video games being mainstream. Space Invaders, Pac-Man, Donkey Kong.

You are longing for days when video games were played on oscilloscopes and monochrome monitors in university settings only.

You are fucking retarded thinking that consoles made gaming mainstream. Consoles were riding the wave that arcade machines started.

Again, I laugh at your immense stupidity.
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>>337784562

that's his point
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>Having to dig your old console out of the closet to play other games.
>Having to endure switching resolutions, framerates, and controller designs just to play older games
>Letting physical copies pile up because barely any digital storage space while claiming that shitty cover art and cheap plastic "feels better"
>Not having all your games on one device
>Actually paying for full price rereleases just so you have a semblance of backwards compatibility

Glad I'm not poor, being a console user must suck.
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No, in reality they push it forward because it lowers the risk for developers to invest in graphics. Despite what you homo's think, 99,9% of pc's out there are toasters, and it makes zero sense to develop for 0,01% of the market.
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>>337780807
>Do consoles hold graphics back?
sure, look at most praised game here, like undertale and dirt rally.
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>>337781175
are we doing funny pastas now?
I love memes!
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I only own a PC, but I'll admit that Uncharted 4 is a very nice looking game. These console wars are just a fucking retarded waste of time, you guys should stop throwing a tantrum when people don't agree with you, when they are clearly disagreeing with you out of spite.
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>>337784647
>There are more active, buying people on steam than there are total owners of all current gen consoles

I'd like a source on this and see what's selling what.
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>>337784118
>The cost of current graphics has shot up exponentially in the last 10 years.

The majority of todays inflated budgets are spent on marketing, not making the game.

Studios are also way more wasteful. Great source books or behind the scenes documentaries on games made in the late 90s then do the same for ones made post-2010.

You'll see a huge increase in budgets spent on long projects which get scrapped. You see games going through 20 prototypes for features before scrapping.

You look back at older designs and studios were more efficiency minded, they made damn sure their concepts were sound before developing them.
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>>337780807
Doom 3 was on the Xbox as well.
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>>337780807
DO NIGGERS HOLD SOCIETY BACK?
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the markets getting bigger because of consoles, but it's stagnetting because of how big it's getting and how money driven it is.
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Yes. We have this thread everyday.
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>>337785039
>but I'll admit that Uncharted 4 is a very nice looking game

Yeah, mind boggling realism

>>337783425
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>>337785039

Some people are just unable to cope with the fact that you may need to buy additional gaming platforms to get all the games you might want.

Try console games for yourself and decide, I myself am liking consoles more and more the more I've started playing them and ignoring master-racities. Gears of War multiplayer was a total eye opener for me along with halo, better Cave game ports, games that are gr8 and you WILL NOT SEE ON PC (Like Red Dead Redemption).
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>>337784647
I couldn't find any numbers on the total numbers of 'active accounts' that actually regularly spend money, but here are some numbers I found;

Total number of steam accounts:
>~130,000,000 (Feb 2015)

Total number of PSN accounts:
>~150,000,000 (2013)

Number of active Xbox Live subscribers
>50,000,000

These numbers don't even really mean anything because it's free to make an account and people often make multiple accounts.

Number of PS+ subscribers (So they actually pay a subscription)
>10,500,000 (Jan 2015)

(No official numbers for the amount of people who pay for gold membership, estimated at around 7 million)

Steam active users (48 hour peak)
>12,300,000
No indication that these 12m users are actually spending money or just playing games they have.

So consoles definitely have more users actually spending money.
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>>337785229
>to get all the games you might want.

No, the problem is you consoleniggers pretend every game you get is something every wants and if they don't they're just salty never ever
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This is a silly thread.

Devs are always going to put consoles first since that's the bigger market.
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>>337781812
Yet games used to be generally better back then.

Mobile games would be big regardless.
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Does the bear shit in the forest?
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>>337785348
>No, the problem is

I'll tell you what the problem is.

The problem is my first gaming machine ever was a pc.
The problem is my main gaming machine has usually been a pc.
The problem is I'm currently typing this on a gaming pc that only has 115GB hd space left and has nothing installed but games.

And I'm using this gaming pc to defend that consoles are pretty gud.

This should be a red flag for everyone you're preaching master-racehood to.
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>>337784118
>>337784241
>>337784290
>>337784303
>>337784274
Wasn't expecting that reaction.

It's correct but is it not? You get diminishing returns to the amount of polygons on screen. It takes significantly more time and money to get a minimal noticeable improvement of graphics.
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>>337785068
>The majority of todays inflated budgets are spent on marketing, not making the game.

Dude, there are far more factors involved now than back then.

For example compare FF7 to the remake.
>remake will have mocap, voiceacting, way more animations, more advanced animations, physics, lighting, etc etc etc

Making big games now is VERY expensive.
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>>337785181

We've had better looking hallway simulators for years though, thats not even mind boggling realism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf045VYP3z4

It's a tech demo but hey it has as much gameplay as that shit you posted from Uncharted
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>>337782102
She looked like a woman in earlier games. Now she looks like a frog.

What happened?
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Why Crysis 1 looks so good ?
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>>337780807
Doom 3 had shitty character models for it's time. The thing it did well for the time was shadows.
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>>337785580
The point of having more powerful systems that can push more triangles isn't so you can make the same models more detailed, its so that you can have bigger, more complicated environments with more stuff inside.
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>>337785181
>Yeah, mind boggling realism

I also enjoy people being so selective with their shitposting and fallacies.

See the other images that are also not using the innate poor jpg compression like >>337784183

Or how about this image I just posted? See the tower in the top right in the image? That is the goal to where you're supposed to drive, basically. There are no loading screens inbetween it and the goal either. So both the scale and graphics are good.
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>>337785229
Oh I did play consoles for years, I loved games like Gears and RDR, and I wish I could buy a console, but I just don't have the money to support multiple platforms, and messing around with computers is a hobby of mine. I'll never understand why people think that they need to commit their entire life to one platform, and spend all of their time defending it on chat boards. They all have something to offer.
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>>337784118
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>>337785181

>bad graphics

Seems to have better graphics than pc version
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>>337785870
You overdid the vignette a bit
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>>337782102
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>>337785791
But that's isn't graphics is it? I mean better hardware would improve frame rate and low times for sure but won't see much of a graphical improvement.
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>>337785870
Thats hardly anything new or amazing. Games have been doing that for a while.
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>>337784865
fucking fact.
Mortal kombat arcade got me into gaming not the N64. i remember going to a pizza store that had it and spamming noob and Shiva moves to win.

fun fact Mortal kombat trilogy was my first game
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>>337781359
>as it is
Wait, so you mean we would have gotten another comfy hub-based game rather than batman: arkham witcher find the smugglers cache edition?
Sign me up.
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I wonder if consolewars shitposting would die down if economics was a mandatory part of education.

Opportunity cost, marginal benefits/cost, diminishing returns, etc.

Hardware limits how pretty games can be. On the other end, developer effort determines how pretty they make the game in the first place. Some devs bother to push the limit, many others don't even close and on top of it optimize like crap(this is especially prevalent in PC games).

Unless it becomes extremely apparent that the large majority of the population prefers graphics that push the limit of cutting-edge hardware constantly most devs probably won't bother. The costs in terms of whatever(time, money, effort) simply don't outweigh the little gain they'd get for marginally better graphics. Coding, bug-testing, optimization, gameplay, and other things require effort as well and probably contribute far more. There simply isn't enough time or money to do everything perfectly.
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>>337782418
ignorance
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>>337786509
it's graphics as well.
If you have a higher polygon budget you can have much more detailed environments and you don't have to repeat the same elements to stay within memory limits.
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>>337785870
Yeah, you could see the other end of the island in Far Cry 1 too, provided you got up high enough, so what?
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>>337782156
>>337782418
>>337782902
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>>337786675
that looks worse than that fucking uncharted 4 screenshot and needs a more expensive pc to run at those settings to boot.
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>>337786675
delete this
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>>337786791
HAHAHAHA
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>>337786778
>takes a bunch of super compressed images
>wow they look blurry!
also almost all the cutscenes in the game are real time.

take a look at this (and notice the file size difference)
>>337784183
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>>337780807
doesn't company use PC to make shit look great before saying thy had to dumb it down in e3
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>>337780807
No but x86 does
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>>337786675
>not using superior ReShade
wew fucking lad
delete that screen shot
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>>337786924
>literally this buttblasted
>literally this much buyer's remorse

keep cryin and blowin them boogers kid
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>>337782902
jesus christ, you again

can you be anymore pathetic?
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>>337781175
10 minutes to install a game here
Graphics are nice but a stable framerate is why i built mine.

enjoy hovering at 22fps lol
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>>337787015
its vanilla for a reason
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>>337787015

That looks worse than his screenshot mate. The only good graphic injectors are DXHR's and GTA4's.

I bet you use filtering on 2d games and tv filters.
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>>337783913
>consolecuck grasping at straws

go back to your movie
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>>337781175
fuck ye bb, stay mad 4ever, b sad and be alon 4ever
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>>337787015

Looks like a badly done STALKER blow-out effect or drinking alcohol in a videogame with dumb screen filters.

Got an urge to play Wasteland or co-op vs AI. Any good campaigns yet?
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>>337787326
Jesus christ anon, have you ever heard of this neat technology called Anti-Aliasing?
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>>337787246
I see your point, but mine is that Arma 3 has some ugly fuck ass shaders by itself.
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>>337787429
not my screenshot
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>>337787326

His post was laughing at the blunders of Crytek ever since Crysis 2. Also, where is your anti-aliasing?
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>>337784801
Witcher 3 was a lot bigger than the other 2.
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>>337786791
consolecucks always with those excuses
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>>337787438
sure i don't disagree
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>>337780807
/thread
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>>337780807
Why do PC faggots bitch about graphics and optimise the fuck out of their rigs all the time just to then go and play hours on games like FTL, Civ and Cities: Skylines that don't even try to push the graphical boundaries? This has never made sense to me.
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Fuck off, consoleplebs. Master Race is the only platform that matters. Japs even realized this and are starting to port their games to PC since consoles are dying. They'll go extinct soon.
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>>337787632
Thank you for showing me the way reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace!
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>>337787585

Nice reddit image.

Also if you knew anything this board was ruined with the 7th gen's bickering over Xbox 360 vs PS3 vs Wii vs PC before Orange box (that was basically DEAD from 2005-2007 until Crysis and Orange Box.) A lot of us bought consoles during that time.

t;ldr the reasont his board's culture is really insulting and angry is because of /b/tards with consoles cross-boarding.
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>>337787694
No problem, friend.
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>>337787713

>t;ldr
>the reasont

whoops
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>>337780807
Riddick has pretty long loading screens between small areas.
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>>337787713
That reads like you grabbed your info off of knowyourmeme.com

Embarassing
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ITT
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>>337787310
>>337787413
lol

whatever suits your taste
this suits mine
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>>337787804

Nah I was a tripcode user who had a 360 and a DS around that time. I was 18 at the time and now I'm 27.

>>337787836

Ya it's all about taste but left looks more like real life. Both are poor in art graphic fidelity.
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the pcuck graffix argument no longer holds any water in 2016. You used to be able to use it last generation but now the difference is mostly just in framerate and AA
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>>337780807
the difference between a console and a pc is a plastic/metal box with circuits in it
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>>337787818

CLASSIC
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>>337787115
>buyers remorse

is that what you are feeling now because you bought an Xboner?
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>>337787585
The irony is that most PC games these days have worse graphics than console games.
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>>337781730
frames dont work that way you fucking moron
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>>337787970
>being a CA, 4k and 30/60 fps peasant in the age of 120hz and 140hz

This generation and last generation are suffering from focus of art assets over performance which is a stupid shame. PC, N64, Gamecube and PlayStation 1/2 were the best generations.

>>337788126

Most PC games have always had worse art assets than console games because of budget. It was only until the 7th generation that Western developers cared about art style (albeit some older devs forgeting about art style i.e. Morrowind to Oblivion and so forth.)

GAMEPLAY = Performance > Art style > technical graphics > sound effects > music > platform = pricetag to me.
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>>337788029
>meta critic
>implying i play on xbone
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i usually just assume console players are being ironic because most of what they say i cant take seriously

not saying anything in specific about whats the best hardware but seriously stop being so childish, youre acting like fucking shills defending their marketing
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>>337788253

And to add since 7th generation good PC ports are coming and you can really see how much the 7th and 8th consoles are being pushed back. MGSV looks great.
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>>337783481

The problem is a lot of people take screen shots with the jpeg selection on and then upload those pics to imgur which get compressed further, then they post them here
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>>337788303
open that totally not porn drive
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>>337788029
The remorse is going to be equal on both sides when sony announces ps4.5 this E3.
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I'm just sad that the quality of original titles on the PC has dropped off so badly. You get indie garbage, "alpha access" or an awfully optimized port now.
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>>337788303
>totally not porn
Is that dolphin porn?
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>>337785014
I thought that was IGN who said that.
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>>337788463
>>337788547
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>>337788253
Can I ask how much your PC costs if you add up the total parts?
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>>337788572
then open the folder where you keep your porn

obey
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>>337788435
Yeah that JPG compression really does it. I had no idea you can change it to PNG so all my screenshots looks blurry and lame while in-game the locations looked amazing.
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>>337787525
>the world, as seen through the eyes of western video game publishers
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>>337788636
>he has porn of a poor asian girl reaching her breaking point after being brutally raped

jesus christ you sick fuck

dont even show us the other folders
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>>337786675
Enjoy your frame every few minutes. Apparently the new visual overhaul should actually improve performance in places, so that's going to be nice.
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>>337788775
Breaking point is a game>>337788303
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>>337788679
ask and ye will receive

>>337788775
the steam is pumped into the vagoo
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>>337788435
Yep, snf I like the depth of field option in photomode so much
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>>337788884
>whooshed this hard
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>>337781359
If there were no consoles everybody would have a pc. Thus the market would be the same.

What a retarded man
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>>337788897
>jiff

open that folder now you sissy cunt

im getting horny
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>>337788897
where is the porn
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>>337788985

>Thus the market would be the same.

No, hardware manufactures like Sony/Nintendo have a big part in the industry. Nvidia doesn't just pick up or somehow become what Sony/Nintendo have done for the last two decades nor is the industry even remotely the same without them.
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>>337789067
>being mean to machine doing their works properly
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>>337789067

pls no
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>>337786791
>that looks worse than that fucking uncharted 4
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>>337789162
>its getting interesting
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>>337789186
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>>337789186
>ungarted 4 distant land looks like shit from a gamecube title

wtf
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>>337789247
>low settings
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>>337789162
post the /b/trd gets laid webm, now faggot
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>>337786592
Indian simulator
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>>337789292
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>>337789292
>Playable settings
Anon, Arma 3 can look pretty but it can't run well while doing it. I'm running a 970 and can't consistently achieve more than maybe 30 frames in an actual usage scenario and that's on a good day with setting prioritizing playability over pretties.
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>>337789213
>>337789356
gonna be safe with this one, crossing it over to /gif/

http://i.4cdn.org/gif/1463396659698.webm
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>>337782769
Gotta administer the nanites somehow.
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>>337788474
>believing a rumor

The only remorse would be on Sony's side after they realized that fucking their customers is bad business, which is why they won't do it. NEO is probably something to do with their VR device and not a new console, if it even exists (doubtful).
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why are you guys arguing about the system people prefer to play on
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>>337789583
the woes of the 32 bit engine
dropping the settings doesn't change the fps for me
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>>337788303
That is some awful taste in vidya
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>>337787949
Holy shit, try living somewhere sunny for a change. Real life has glorious saturation and bold colours everywhere.
The desaturation fad needs to end.
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>>337789879
Because this is /v/. They actually hate video games, just like they hate everything. They especially hate that some normie with a console is enjoying video games more than they are even capable of.
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>>337790069
lol
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>>337783913
Crytek is so fucked up.
Why couldn't they keep it simple?
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>>337790186
You can't deny it
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>>337780807
I think they hold the market overall back. One cant deny that in the current state of the industry without consoles extremely high end graphics and high budget games wouldnt exist but if all consumers werent retarded and we lived in an alternate reality where everyone had PCs it would be better overall both in terms of graphics and gameplay. A well done developed for PC game like Serious Sam 3 could still be ported to PS4 and probably not be able to run maxed out.
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>>337790282
Can they keep it simple when EA is their boss?
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>>337781175
Forgot pic. This is a PC exclusive with good reviews.
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>>337790317
>frogposting
your insecurity is showinf senpai~
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>>337789186
more games should take place in greece
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>>337788303
>Dolphin 2
u wot m8
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