Which is the king of FPS?
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Did OP just watch RetroAhoy's video?
>>337748630
I prefer Quake if you're comparing Doom 1 to Quake 1. Quake was better in every way.
>>337748630
Doom 1 vs Quake 1? Quake 1
Doom 2 vs Quake 2? Doom 2.
>>337748701
not OP but I did watch it and it was pretty good
UT
>>337748814
It is pretty good. l love his DOOM retrospective as well. lt's always nice to sit back, watch, and have those fond memories flood back.
>>337748630
Quake multiplayer and Doom single player.
>>337748708
>>337748756
>less enemies on screen
>shotgun is terrible that takes 10 shots to kill
>"""""bosses""""" are worse
yeah ok
Doom is superior to Quake in single player.
Quake is superior to doom in multiplayer.
Doom
Quake was technowank with no sense of design.
I'd say that Quake was the better game but I still prefer Doom over Quake 1 in certain aspects.
I just think that Reznor's dark ambient soundtrack and the vastly changer atmosphere of Quake 1 could compete with Doom's heavy metal inspired hell fest.
Had fun playing both games though and they still excell modern shooters' gameplay in every possible way.
>>337749081
>he doesn't like shooting a fucking dragon
Ok
Is Quake 1 really that good? I've played the shit out of all the Doom games, but I never even played Quake as a kid because my computer couldn't run it. I even had the shareware episode on a demo disc but I was SOL.
What's the best way to play it?
>>337748630
MW2
>>337749081
>actually requires more thoughtful movement then mindlessly circlestrafing around imps
>>337749356
DO IT
JUST
DO ITJUST DO IT
>>337749081
Quake 1's verticality and enemy placements are more interesting to me than Doom 1's mate sorry. I still love Doom 1.
>>337749389
This. Doom has raw speed but quake makes you play more frenetically.
>>337749356
Play Quake. Glquake runs on pretty much anything. You may need to use dosbox to install if you have an old version of Quake. Otherwise I'd say pick it up and play it and the two mission packs too.
Doom. Hands down. Ask anyone who worked at id and they'll tell you the same thing. Quake is good but Doom just never stops being fun.
>>337748630
Half-Life.
>>337749356
quakespasm
>>337749356
>Is Quake 1 really that good?
Yes and I'm glad it's catching on on /v/ that it's damn well worth revisiting.
>>337749710
Me too, I've been pushing this shit for years. Unreal too.
>>337749598
Quake changed more and is about 70% of source engine. I feel there's too many people who think doom was more ground breaking. It wasn't. Simply the most popular at the time. Quake innovated more and laid the framework and foundation for more. Which one you like more is up to taste.
>>337748756
I 100% agree with this.
>>337749668
Half life's engine, like many of valves games, is mostly Quakeworld. Doom 1 and 2 are honored dead heroes. Quake lives.
>>337749949
>70%
na
source 1 barely had any quake source code
goldsrc on the other hand had a lot
>>337750107
You caught me red handed.
>>337750091
>Doom 1 and 2 are honored dead heroes
Whoa there slick it is far from dead.
More influential and important to game history? Quake. I want to say Doom, but it wasn't even the first FPS, and games would be ripping off Quake way more than Doom for years to come.Doom is still the better game overall though.
>>337749912
I just got done talking about Unreal in another thread, it's such a masterpiece of scope in a video game. It's like an epic in video game format: Traversing a planet that used to house an ancient civilization that has fallen to decay, their numbers splintering while fighting off an alien menace.
>>337750276
The engine is
Quake 1 > Doom > Doom 2 > Quake 2 > Unreal
>>337750771
Oh right.
>>337750592
You seem to forget that Doom was the game that made modding a viable thing.
Before Doom, the most people would do was modify stat files and attempt to jury-rig things in Wolf3D that almost broke the game. With Doom, the user could more or less remake the entire game in their vision, which hadn't really been done before.
Sure, Quake may have pioneered true 3D FPS, but Doom had a larger influence than just being popular.
>>337751002
Team Fortress began as a Quake mod.
Quake had no soul theres more to a game than gfx. Doom 1
>>337748630
Anyone else enjoyed Quake 4? I actually liked the whole strogg vs human feel and no time travel shit
>Mfw you cringe out of impulse from this scene
>>337751113
True, but if Doom modding hadn't proven as successful as it had, there wouldn't have been a modding scene to provide us with Team Fortress.
>>337751149
It felt way too similar to doom 3 and was released too close next to it.
>>337751270
It was one of the first 360 titles so it had more time to be polished. Pls it had pretty fun vehicles.
>>337750832
>Unreal below Quake 2
No.
>>337751460
Unreal is better than all of those and equal to Q1.
>>337751207
Modding with doom was stupid easy. Made a couple of my own with my brother when I was 13. We replaced the sounds of the guns with various toys. Had one of those electronic toy guns that cycled through different sounds when you pulled the trigger. Modded the bfg to make the sound when you get a Tetris. Made some custom maps too, but I was too dumb and young to do that. My older brother made a Shakespear play or model of the stage in doom.... Pardon me for going down memory lane.
>>337749081
The shotgun in Quake fires much faster than Doom's, and it's pretty damn accurate assuming you have the aim. If you're using it on the more dangerous enemies, no shit it's going to take ten shots, that's why you pull out a more powerful weapon, Doom isn't an exception to that either.
I also don't see how Doom has any prestige to talk in terms of bosses.
>>337748756
/thread
>>337748630
Doom by far. Although Quake's multiplayer is perfect.
>tfw there will never be another Quake game set in medieval castles and futuristic military bases all in one game
Quake 1 setting was such a clusterfuck and yet so unique
>>337751939
There can be anon.You have to make it.
>>337748630
doom was literally a top-down shooter in first person
>>337748630
Quake, if we're considering multiplayer.
>>337751939
I think Carmack said he was getting tired of the Strogg storyline of Quake and would like to see it return to the setting of the first game.This was before he left id a few years ago though. So, fuck.
Fighting shit in Quake feels less satisfying than in Doom, which is a shame because the Rocket Launcher and the Shper Nailgun are fucking great weapons.
>>337750674
holy shit dude GOAT fucking game , such good music, a immersive world with perfect maps and beatiful concept, remarkable
>>337749231
thread should've ended here
Quake 1 is worth playing for the rocket launcher alone.
Literally the most perfect weapon ever designed.
>>337749560
what minecraft mod is this? it looks cool
>>337754583
They don't make 'em like they used to that's for sure.
>>337749062
I think this is the correct answer.
>>337748630
Doom.
Quake is unfinished garbage, the animations are fucking terrible, flinches work on a threshold system, the levels are tiny and all the weapons feel like shit.
>>337755175
yes anon, its true
