http://techraptor.net/content/tokyo-mirage-sessions-fe-censorship-roundup
>With the Western release of Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE rapidly approaching, and new findings of censorship continuing to be discovered, here’s a special roundup of all of the localization changes from the original Japanese version found so far.
It already sold terribly in Japan, what are they thinking!?
>those clothes
HOL UP SENPAI
>>337729672
So you saying we were Japs and shieeet.
>>337729520
The whole point of that scene was Tsubasa finally feeling comfortable wearing a bikini. And they ruined it.
>>337730932
Fucking saved. Kek.
>>337729520
I just wanted a crossover of mainline SMT + Strange Journey and Pre-Awakening FE
I just wanted to see what would happen if Sigurd had Reflect:Fire
>>337729520
>what are they thinking!?
My guess is that they have some kind of office betting pool on how many copies will sell after they cut the game to pieces.
>>337730932
beautiful
>>337729520
I like the outfit on the left.
Shame it was only added because swimsuits are haram.
tsubasa is cute.
>>337730932
they didn't ACTUALLY change her belly, right?
right?
>>337731526
she really is
i just wish there was more__r34__of her
>>337731574
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2QRlnLNYbs#t=3m35s
yes
>>337731029
Who gives a fuck?
>>337729672
We wuz idols an shit
>>337731574
Yes.
No more vagina bones
>>337731698
wow.
Looking forward to playing a pirated uncensored version, personally.
>>337730932
Nice
>ANOTHER thread with manbabies crying about a video game being more welcoming to female players
Sigh....
>>337730932
Those fucking faggots!
>>337731742
People who care about what's happening in the game?
>>337732402
I know this is bait but...
>females wanting to play a game where the female is restricted in how she can express herself, not to mention apparently doesn't have hipbones and needed a boob job
>>337729520
Keep on trucking NoA, keep on trucking...
Good thing I'm currently playing it in Japanese.
All that time studying paid off.
>>337731574
Yes. But it's okay when NoA does it
>>337733419
>They really took away an anatomical detail because someone might find it sexy
Who are these people
What kind of lives do they live
>>337733754
They're the new men. You are the last man.
>>337733754
its treehouse, they are made up of a bunch of freaks, swj's, dog fuckers, and further on.
>Lyn aged up from 15 to 18 in western version
>no one gives a shit
>characters in this game aged up
>OMG CENSORSHIP REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Kill yourselves
If I buy a WiiU right now can I fully hack/cfw it like I did to my 3ds?
>>337734404
What's the point of changing the age to legal if you're going to remove the vagina bones and the lewd?
>>337729520
Where is the Tsubasa r34?
>>337734404
The fuck are you talking about?
People were shitting on X near constantly because of the bullshit with Lyn
>>337734404
I'd have no problems with that if they didn't remove anatomical details along with it just because they can
>>337734625
Nowhere, because the game flopped in Japan harder than a comically fat dude at a public swimming pool
>>337734404
Lyn wasn't aged up but had most costumes edited.
>>337734404
The fuck are you babbling about? It was impossible to talk about X leading up to the NA release because of censorship shitposting.
>>337734673
>>337734815
>>337734825
Hello, underages
>>337733419
I like the top of the right one better.
Removal of vagina bone is fucking retarded.
>>337735054
Yeah we know you are but what are we?
>>337729520
Nintendo really wants to end up this console cycle with huge failures, the seem adamant about it.
>>337735054
>being an FE7fag
kys
honestly, i don't even care that much. there are still plenty of games where i can fan service and anime grills
>>337730932
The anatomy of a female drawing must be quite triggering to americans.
>>337729520
Maybe they are just trying to top 4kidz in the censorship Olympics
>>337734404
>lyn is aged up
>but keeps that sweet tiddy bounce
kys dumb dangeromper poster
>>337735272
>The anatomy of a female drawing must be quite triggering to americans.
Of course it is. Here's from Civlization VI.
>>337730932
Did they make her fatter too? What the fuck.
>tfw they're just completely fucking this up trying to make it bomb so they have an excuse to never localize a game ever again
>>337736134
I sure hope so.
>>337736134
good then maybe they will make games only for ps4 then.
>>337733419
>>337730932
>>337729520
Can we sue NOA for vandalism at this point? The amount of censorship they did for this game is pretty much vandalism.
I don't get it.
Why would Nintendo go out of their way to sensor this shit when something like Bayonetta is already on the WiiU? Is it because it involves a Nintendo IP?
Sometimes I get this feeling it has something to do with the FE crowd. At least the new "post awakening" crowd. Even still, those games are inuendo-y as fuck.
>>337738394
They didn't get their hooks into Bayo, Platinum does their own localization, and it was vetted most likely by Japanese. Meanwhile, these games are being domestically localized and domestically vetted.
>>337738394
#FE is produced by Nintendo. Bayo wasnt.
I'm not sure who Nintendo thinks is the target audience of a JP audio only JRPG based off Japanese culture but censoring it won't attract people who weren't interested in the first place.
>>337738658
They're afraid of SJW backlash. There are always more prude eyes turned towards Nintendo than any other company. It has always been that way, though I'd like to see them stick to their guns on this one, mainly because it's a very "specific" kinda game and also a spin-off.
>“It was a priority to ensure the game feels familiar and appeals to longtime Atlus fans. Any changes made to the in-game content were due to varying requirements and regulations in the many different territories Nintendo distributes its products.”
What did they mean by this?
>>337729520
Does it even matter?
Censorship or no censorship, this game is going to go down in flames in the market. This game managed to be too weeb even for actual Japanese.
>>337738658
Treehouse is full of SJWs and SJWs are dumb as fuck.
>>337738658
>niche as fuck game already
>clearly only will be bought by the weebs
>censor the weeb game of any sort of fanservice
They may as well not have localized it at all and saved themselves the money.
>>337738658
Nintendo is basically Mozilla at this point.
>>337729520
i used to be interested about it, but nintendo killed it. Why would they make changes to a game that won't sell more than 100k units anyway?
>>337739219
It means that when it comes to idol-themed Atlus games, Dancing All Night on a Sony console is fine but #FE is 'problematic' to the Nintendo audience.
Good news: they can't censor what made the game good in the first place.Because it never existed to begin with.
>>337739709
For money.
For the localizers, I mean, not the company.
Is it possible for the fan made uncensored edition? Wii U has loadiine now.
I'd like to hear what bullshit they've used to justify all the censorship, which way do I contact them?
Is european version the same?
>>337740446
>implying they'll answer you
You gotta suck a lot of cocks and lick unwashed pussy to get answers in this industry.
>>337740446
>“It was a priority to ensure the game feels familiar and appeals to longtime Atlus fans. Any changes made to the in-game content were due to varying requirements and regulations in the many different territories Nintendo distributes its products.”
>>337740010
Generally companies frown upon divisions or contractors who invent additional expenses. It's much easier to argue that it's simply down to the specific production supervisors, especially since they recently put out a different game with far racier things generally left alone.
>>337740446
>any company ever justifying its decisions to random individuals making accusations
>It was a priority to ensure the game feels familiar and appeals to longtime Atlus fans.
Atlus fans confirmed for not liking anime titties.
>>337740546
yes
>>337740789
>Atlus fans love Mara
>Atlus fans confirmed for faggots.
>>337729520
>not pirating and modding the lewdness back in
buyfags lose again
It is clear NoA wished this game never existed and is only bringing it to the West due their desperate need to fill up the Wii U's lineup for the year.
Why did Nintendo even fund this game if they are so embarrassed by it?
![827990-rise[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/OY003Ax.jpg "827990-rise[1].jpg")
>>337740789
Literally the first thing you see when you start Persona 4 is anime titties.
Dancing All Night was all about the idol business like this is, but was pretty much untouched content-wise by the localisers.
Daily reminder that if your Wii U is on 5.5.1 or lower (AKA any firmware currently available), you can hack it. Loadiine allows for modified games, so you can play it completely uncensored. One such example is the "fixed" version of XCX, which is undubbed, uncensored, and you can use features such as the boob size slider.
Just block the Nintendo servers with the appropriate DNS and go nuts.
>>337741006
>Why did Nintendo even fund this game if they are so embarrassed by it?
The Japanese staff are into this kind of thing. And they wanted to make a game like it.
It's NoA who are embarrassed by it. Just like they were embarrassed by head patting in FE. Or bikinis in FF. Or fundoshi in XB.
Japan doesn't have anything against pandering to otaku. It's just NoA who can't deal with it.
>>337729520
This honestly looks really good. I'll probably pick up a copy soon.
>>337729520
isn't this game rated M in the west? How can they justify that M rating with all of these changes?
>>337741592
No it's only T
Who else cancelled their pre-order? Don't update your Wii U because homebrew is back and someone will probably mod the English text into the Japanese version.
>>337741703
If I don't bother to install loadline until later and Nintendo sends out an update an I screwed? I turned off my Wii U internet connection.
>>337740584
>>337740589
>>337740681
Wow, none of the categories even lets me address them about localization and NoJ doesn't take questions about localization
>Meanwhile in T-rated nintendo game Hyrule Warriors
>>337740825
prove
>>337741859
As long as your Wii U is on a compatible firmware (AKA 5.5.1 or lower), you're perfectly safe. Just turn off the internet for your Wii U until you're ready.
Once you want to pirate, all you do is use the proper DNS to block updates, and then visit Loadiine's exploit site (with a bunch of files on an SD card in the Wii U, which you get from said site). Once you do that, it boots into the homebrew menu, and you can play pirated games or whatever else you want to do.
It's that simple.
>>337741859
if your internet is off on your Wii U, you should be fine.
>>337742082
Am i screwed if my version is "5.5.1 E"?
Maybe the game didn't sell because of the things they're making changes to. Ever think of that?
FE Fates was changed because of all the Japanese forums going "WTF is this WEEBSHIT?"
>>337735536
>censor her nipple
>don't shave her armpit
>>337734183
Why do people still let them touch videogames? Who stands for this?
>>337742207
That just means you have a European model. You're perfectly fine.
>>337742279
Do you know anything about this game?
It's 100% unfiltered "weebshit". If you wanted to censor it all out, you'd be better just not even localizing the game.
I'd also like a source on your claim that the changes were made due to the Japanese response.
>>337741703
I cancelled mine. I'm glad to finally be off this ride of going between disappointment and hype. What a clusterfuck of a game.
Didn't know about homebrew so my Wii U has already auto-updated past it. Not skin off my sack though, I already own most of the Wii U games I wanted to play, and I'll be able to live with myself just fine for never playing TMS in a non-censored state.
Meanwhile books with nipples and sexually provocative covers are allowed to be put up on every shelf in my thrift store.
Since nipples are bad, I think they should be surgically removed from birth from every human being, that would eliminate all trouble.
>>337742342
Because the vast, vast majority of consumers don't give the tiniest shit.
>>337741703
even the jap version was censored. you're cucked no matter what you do.
>>337741986
That was when Iwata was around, Kimishima is a fucking traditionalist with a fucking T. The kind that basically is deathly scared of bad reviews and news
>>337741703
Still buying the CE the gameplay looks fun and i enjoy atlus games
>>337742617
>deathly scared of bad reviews
So why isn't he dead yet?
>>337741703
It's useless if Nintendo thinks the game failed because people didn't enjoy the theme and aesthetic.
Unless they realise people are boycotting for censorship reasons, this could actually backfire. If it doesn't sell with mild weebshit in it god knows how badly it would sell with heavy weebshit instead, right?
But that's implying there will be a boycot in the first place, which in itself implies there would be significantly more units sold in case there was no censorship. Both of those implications are probably false.
The only solution would be try to reach to Nintendo and voice their complaint, but then again, were we a significant number of people to begin with?
>>337742795
It's not like voicing your opinion does anything. I've sent emails to voice my displeasure and all I get are copy pasted bullshit.
Thank god Sony does not give a fuck and let Atlus do what they want with Persona.
>>337742795
Considering Fates sales were completely undented, I don't think our numbers matter.
>>337742736
Because that would be a good thing.
>>337743212
Fates received active advertising and was released for a mainstream system.
Comparing it to #FE isn't really a good idea. #FE itself relies heavily on the fanservice concept at a core level. I mean it's a game about idols.
I genuinely don't understand who the market is for this game, other than those absolutely desperate for any sort of content on the Wii U, because otherwise the mainstream audience is just gonna look up a video like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTl8gDQiKiE
and completely mock it, while the core weebs will avoid it cause it's had its content gutted.
>>337743096
>and let Atlus do what they want
or any other company, for that matter
>mfw this is a sony approved T-rated game
>It also has nudes with modeled 3D nipples and people have been banned on /v/ for posting screenshots of that
>>337743635
I want to fuck Metallica
>>337743635
>It also has nudes with modeled 3D nipples and people have been banned on /v/ for posting screenshots of that
post it
>>337743212
>>337743060
As I said, it's pointless unless there are a significant number of people in choir.
Fates would sell even if it was 60 bucks each piece and Nintendo knew that so they promptly ignored people's complaints.
TMS looks like will sell much less, which is a plus in this case, but we would still need a significant portion of the player base to change their behaviour.
Even if the game sells 50k copies, when only 15 anons voice their opinions it's safe to assume we would be ignored imediately too.
>>337743635
Really? But it was localized by NIS. I thought they were terrible about stuff like that?
>>337743557
Sure, but I mean the censorship issue, which was quite widely documented by the press, didn't have any visible negative effect. Obviously the scale for a game like this would be very different. It's probably closer to Xenoblade, but that's a bad example too because the censorship there is comparatively trivial.
I agree that what they're doing is baffling. This obviously isn't a mass-market game.
>>337731029
Is anybody surprised? I mean you remember Fatal Frame V right? It was a much, much smaller case of this shit but it actively affected the story and fucked it up so I'd argue it was far more egregious and offensive in that regard that they changed it.
>>337743557
I don't know dude. It has FE on the name and people are pretty hyped about FE atm. I think it could find its way into those people's homes, but I agree that it would have to be properly marketed first.
Maybe that's what they're shooting for with the censorship. To get the not-degenerate weeb market.
And yes, they exist. They're just chilling on their own, watching their mainstream anime casualy and playing dumbed down RPGs like FF and FE.
>>337743878
What needs to happen is one significant review site has to post a negative review, with a big - symbol talking about how the censorship made the game lose points.
Plaster a headline upfront like "#FE is a terribly confused censored mess, that doesn't know whose audience it's aiming for". That's the kind of shit that would get Nintendo's attention.
>>337744064
Speaking about Fatal Frame
Does anybody know if a uncensored version exist to play on loadiine?
>>337743792
like I said... don't want to get banned
Get some moreliteralbuttplug puppy girl instead
>>337743905
Depends, I guess. Maybe they are iffy with loli content, but to be fair NIS does localize riskier content than any other non-H console publisher, AFAIK. So I don't blame them too much. Some of the stuff they alter I understand but they did do some stupid shit also
>>337744358
I think that's an even more niche audience than just pandering to weebs in general.
At the end of the day, are those casual ones going to be actively offended by the content in this game? I highly doubt it. Your Narutos and your One Pieces, the mainstream bread and butter of your standard Crunchyroll watchers, have worse stuff. You're only alienating your most core of demos.
>>337744382
It would, but at the same time no review outlet would do that, because they'd be crucified for it.
In fact, it's probably out of fear of releasing another Dragon's Crown that this shit happens. Clickbait sites are always on the lookout for a stereotypical weeb game to lash onto.
>>337744858
Dragon's Crown sold really well though, probably BECAUSE of the aforementioned outcry.
Didn't hurt that it was a great game with gorgeous graphics.
>>337732901
Is that how fancy Loadiine is now? Is it worth going through the trouble of setting it up if I'm on 5.3.2?Why aren't there launchers this fancy for PC games?
>>337744858
I don't know, those negative reviews can generate clicks just as well. Look at the Washington Post outcry due to Uncharted 4.
You get someone who really chews into the censorship, and you could get some people talking, and more importantly, looking at your article.
>>337744468
The inherent issue is that Japan is fine with naked sexualized teenagers and pre-teens. That shit doesn't fly in the west so they make the changes. Most of the games targeted at Japanese men feature girls of said ages so that's where the issue arises.
The changes aren't just for the USA. Germany, Sweden, and plenty of other European countries are harsher about that stuff, and they only want to make one western version. If anyone wants to make changes, they're going to have to start from the ground up and change what family friendly means.
>>337744709
You know what? I don't have a clue.
Maybe the anime casuals wouldn't mind it, but it's also possible that they would find it offensive. They're awefully selective about their degeneracy.
My powerlevel in anime is mild, but just following drama like the Dance in the Vampire Bund controversy makes me come to the conclusion that even when people are perfectly fine watching panties galore in Ikkitousen or don't give a shit about nipplefest Queen's Blade or Koihime Musou (which had loli nipples in them), they'll lose their shit over a 1000yo loli nipples on screen.
In the end, I can't say if they'd be fine with it or not. I'd like to belive they'd not, but it's still Nintendo and they're probably scared shitless about that happening.
>>337745328
>That shit doesn't fly in the west so they make the changes.
except when it's 3D
>>337741430
Is there a spoonfeeding guide for this yet
There's only like three games I'd like to play
On a scale of PSP to 3DS how hard is it to set up?
>>337745328
But they aged Tsubasa to 18
>>337745328
Making "one" western version is retarded though, and nobody has ever done that before. We've never been saddled with Germany's violence laws for example.
Also that's just not true at all, it's always been dependent on the localizers. There's many examples of say, lolis in swimsuits or naked flat chests in SK games,, and it's never forced higher ratings or anything.
>>337744406
I think someone patched the costumes back in. Check GBA Temp.
>>337745743
Said reason is why people think the blood is toned down on the western release of God Eater, due to German laws.
>Overwatch porn searches went up by 817% during the beta
>Game developers seriously think SJWs are the majority and that gamers don't want sexy female characters
>>337745328
>He completely ignores the stuff in the previous fire emblem game being censored in different countries
Why do you spread misinformation, anyway?
>tease a badass action crossover between two games
>turn it into waifu-shit
>censor the waifu-shit to hell and back
For what purpose?
>>337745686
The problem is the stereotype of anime culture being overly sexual.
As >>337745582 said, it's just fine when it's 3D.
>>337745560
>muh liberals
Fuck off.
>>337729520
The hat looks really fucking stupid
>>337746136
republican detected
get the fuck out nigger
>>337745930
People will sexualize ANYTHING.
If a character is well realized, no matter if it's sexualized originally or not, that character will be more sexualized by the fans than a character that is originally sexualized but is otherwise bland as fuck.
>>337746063
Until 18 the parents can file rape charges against the guy. Fuck whatever consent laws are there.
>>337746025
>Show off idol stuff. Fans complain about how stupid the clothes looked.
>Made the clothes less provocative after the backlash
>People who like the idol stuff are now crying fowl
Can't win them all in the end.
>>337742592
Bot is honestly better in this one. Vagina bones are god tier, but pantsu zipper is garbage.
![wildzero[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/WStJ1fE.jpg "wildzero[1].jpg")
>>337746353
>My love transcends gender and dimensions.
DO IT!!!!
ROCK AND ROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>337746353
If they made a decision based on the majority of the consumer base, I'd understand it. I'd be mad as fuck, but I'd understand it from a marketing standpoint.
The issue many people have here is that it makes no fucking sense because the vast majority of people who will actually buy the game preffer uncensored. Why appeal to the complaints of people who will probably not even buy the game.
>>337746353
Fans didn't want an idol game, but they could have at least made something decent with what they had.
Now both action fans and idolshit fans are pissed.
![Ann_Takamaki_Combat[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/b71vHYR.jpg "Ann_Takamaki_Combat[1].jpg")
>>337746696
>pantsu zipper is garbage
What are your feelings on nipple zippers?
They are not even being consistent.
>>337746767
the thing is the people who like it are being overshadowed by the people who cry fowl before.
Negativity is louder than the positives.
So what're you left with from a marketing standpoint is listening to the loud negativity rather than the quiet positive.
>>337729520
Must be sanitized for NAkiddies, anon.
>>337746884
Slightly less garbage, forgiven by the fact that I'm more triggered by that neck zipper being non-functional.
>>337746884
those zippers go all the way down the body if you cant actually see.
Seriously, why would anyone buy this game, whether it was censored or not? KOWASHITTY
>>337747123
People who want SMT/Persona and none of the challenge.
>>337744468
>>337743635
Post more giant puppy girls.
>>337741430
can i play an imported disc?
>>337732901
Can I use USB or do I need to get another big SD card or whatever
>>337747645
As long as you buy it from Play Asia. Gamergate's approved retailer.
>>337746996
I don't usually trust big compannies to show common sense, but when it comes to making money, you'd think they'd stick with whoever would buy more copies, no?
Even the argument of "protecting the brand" is kinda iffy when you take into account Nintendo is already associated with Bayonetta and Hyrule Warriors.
Ultimately, the censoring is fucking ridiculous. Not the act of sensoring, which kinda is too, but the specific things they're censoring in this game are so petty it's not even worth the outcry.
I get the age thing. Pedophilia is a stuídly overblown boogyman. I'd even kinda see why they'd hide some skin here and there, but fucking vagina bones? Seriously?
What are they going to take out next? Lipstick? Earings? Who complains about this stuff?
>>337741703
I really hope there is an English text mod for it but do we know if anyone is going to spend the time to do that?
>>337747502
no
>>337747947
I can't believe she's a virgin
>>337733419
>Changed top
Well she looks less like a hooker, it's an improvement-
>Remove vagina bones
WAT
THE
FUCK
WAT WAT what play does NoA live on? Like really? Going to remove armpit creases because some people out there are aroused at that? Maybe remove fingers, because people could become aroused by that too. I cannot understand.
THIS IS A FUCKING TURBO WEEB GAME. SO much so that I think even Persona 4 babies wouldn't touch it. Who is the target audiance outside weebs? It doesn't even have english dub. What is going on? I feel like I'm in bizzaroo world.
I want off ride now.
>>337747935
>>337748081
Nintendo is hoping any new game could appeal to normies. They don't understand why the Wii was a success and so they want any game they put out to be potentially open to normie sales, no matter how ridiculously unlikely that would be. Who knows, maybe The Big Bang Theory will have an anime ep and all the normies will run out and buy #FE, right?
>>337747947
But why not?
So this is where all the 4kids editors ended up.
>>337747935
>change age from 17 to 18
>17 age
>pedophilia
haha eat shit american
>>337729520
I have to imagine that they were thinking it can't sell any worse.
At the end of the day, this game was a huge waste of time and resources for both Nintendo and Atlus.
Nintendo probably regret ever funding this in the first place.
>>337746696
you're retarded. the original version had balance and a well presented theme. the censored version ruined all of that.
Preorder cancelled. I'm done with NoA.
>>337748673
>>337748662
what
Apparently they talked about making a sequel during the concert
If they do make a sequel can it not be on a nintendo platform/ localized by literally any other company please + thank you
>>337748662
Was the theme turbo hooker?
I hope it goes cheap fast because I'm still very interested to play it.
>>337748413
I don't even know what her age was. I was just talking about it in general. This is not the first time that that happens.
Also, where I live you're free to bang anything above and including the age of 14, and I think that's perfectly sensible. Speak for yourself.
>>337748870
He may be right about that. We may think it's kitsch but for the audience it was aimed at, #FE was a well oiled machine. Idol garbage with scantily clad women and tacky outfits that let otaku dress up their waifu. NoA generally took that feel and shat on it.
>>337747935
don't blame the company for doing stupid shit, blame the consumers who let them get away with it. fe if sold more than awakening even though it had more censoring. why would nintendo stop doing something that made them more money? until people uncuck themselves and actually boycott games enough to make sales numbers tank nintendo isn't going to change shit.
>>337729520
>It already sold terribly in Japan, what are they thinking!?
That a MAJORITY of those bitching were not going to buy this shitty game anyway?
>87 posters
Samefag is going all out.
>>337748217
But with this one? They'd have to be fucking dense to think that.
>inb4 smug greentext ">They'd have to be fucking dense to think that."
Still, as I said, I understand why they'd do it with boobs and panties. But bones is a new low for me. That doesn't make any sense.
>>337749198
Who is going to buy it?
Like, what is the target audience?
>>337748081
NOA doesn't want to trigger fat girls my fellow anon.
You still haven't sent a message to Nintendo in Japan that NoA is exploiting the system of receiving more localization budget funds for the more changes they decide to make. Until you do this, you will keep getting censored games. Find a Japanese guy, translate a message, send it to Nintendo Co Ltd
>>337748870
>>337748931
the outfit was obviously inspired by bdsm, but it had the white and pink parts to make it seem lighter and more feminine. the exposed skin draws attention to her hips and creates an alternating light and dark pattern. in the censored version her entire lower body is a solid color, making it harder to distinguish her features, especially since the concert she was wearing it in was at night and the stage was floating above the audience, meaning that she would be framed against the dark sky.
come on senpaitachi, this is basic stuff
>>337748673
what about Pokemon sun & moon?
>>337749510
The game has no target audience. It was supposed to be otakus but Nintendo has no idea how to actually make a game that panders to them so it failed. Why it is being localized is a mystery.
>>337739334
Wait, what happened to Mozilla? What did Mozilla do? Tell me.
>>337749082
Boycots don't do shit. I'm dissatisfied with the censorship but I'll probably still buy it because boycots are innefective and because I wasn't getting the game solely for what's now missing anyway.
I still think the only way is reaching to Nintendo in some way, but if only 3 people do it then there was absolutely no hope to change this. It's better to reevaluate the value of the product and make a new decision based on the updated cost-benefit relationship.
Or don't buy it on principle, but do it on your own morals, not expecting to make a grain of difference.
>>337749709
Not that anon, but I'll be using homebrew for those, even though they feature some of the worst Pokemon designs.
Are you guys shocked? When has NoA ever NOT censored a game? This is just average for them.
I'm just so oddly fascinated about this game I most likely will actually get it.
>>337750009
>We want the Google Chrome audience!
>>337750009
Fired their CEO because he voted against gay marriage, replaced him with a marketing guy, and completely ruined their browser by chasing after a market that had zero interest.
They went from 50+% marketshare to single-digit % because they are fucking morons.
>>337750075
The Game-Cube and Wii era didn't have these issues.
>>337749510
The audience is either the general public (if Nintendo is crazy) or the casual otakus, the core otakus are out at this point.
I think they're aiming the Persona market, which is comprised of many, maaaaany casual otakus.
>>337750387
Name me times with Nintendo games with girls in clothes like that during the Gamecube and Wii era. The one and only game I can think of is Xenoblade.
>>337750467
And I doubt that market even owns a Wii U.
>>337750015
>I'm dissatisfied with the censorship but I'll probably still buy it because boycots are innefective and because I wasn't getting the game solely for what's now missing anyway.
this is exactly why they don't do shit. congrats on being part of the problem.
>>337746353
>People who like the idol stuff are now crying fowl
Nigger pls
>Nintendo will never censor my precious 2B
feels good.
Nintendo is thinking of all the children who might get traumatized by the sight of breasts
This game looks really funand much better than Personabut I'm not buying it because way too much censorship. A little I can live with, but this is 4kids tier shit. I'll wait for someone to put english text onto the japanese game and play that on loadiine or whatever.
I'd rather support the game, but fucking NoA man
>>337750387
What do you mean?
>>337750370
>They went from 50+% marketshare to single-digit % because they are fucking morons
I just checked, it's true. Sweet Jesus, what a colossal fuck up.
>>337749625
This.
>>337750387
>What is Smash Bros Melee, OoT port, F Zero GX, Xenoblade, Mario Party 8, Madworld, No more heroes, and Metroid PRime 3
>>337729520
>ITT: sonyggers "censorship" central in full force once again
Well shit, whatever. At least we know that today's concert rocked in Japan. After succesful US sales (which we can be sure of, since censorship doesn't affect the sales one bit look up Fates) sequel will be inevitable. Feels so fucking good.
>>337729520
So seductive! And without being direct or explicit!
>>337750515
tales of symphonia 1-2, phantom brave, fragile dreams, lost kingdom 1-2, phantasy star online 1-3, murasame demon blade, pandora's tower, the last story, resident evil the umbrella/dark-side chronicles do i need to list anymore?
>>337750910
>sequel will be inevitable.
It'll be japan only this time because NoA is sabotaging the first one.
>>337750895
No More heroes was censored just in Japan.
>>337751017
Do you know how many games you listed was published by Nintendo?
>>337750556
Don't blame me for not jumping into a sinking boat. If I saw viability in it, I'd do it. If people like me were the majority, we'd do it.
I'd be part of the problem if I dissuaded people from participating in the boycot, which I'm not doing. I'm just explaining the mindset that determines my individual action.
And it's not like I needed to do that. It's simply an utopia my friend.
As I said, it's not impossible to do something about it. It's just that a boycot is not the best way to do it, not to mention the potential of abuse that a boycot culture might cause.
In fact, it's a good thing that boycots don't work. Can you imagine what it would be like if every jerk out there decided to push a boycot aganist, I don't know, games with overly sexualized girls in them? Now that would be aweful, wouldn't it?
>>337751096
Doesn't matter. Censorship is still censorship no matter who's doing it
>>337750574
I HAVE BEEN LET DOWN BY SO MANY GAMES THAT I HAVE BEEN HYPED FOR IN THE PAST BUT GOD DAMN I DIDN'T THINK I'D WANT A GAME THIS BAD EVER AGAIN
>watch video of sidequest for Kiria
>she's cute as fuck
>clearly has interest in Itsuki's D
>can't romance her
>>337751407
L-link?
>>337751096
It was censored in Europe.
Only America got the uncut version.
>>337750015
I'm not buying it simply because I no longer wish to support nintendo. You can call it useless if you want.
THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
>>337749625
Changes are done externally by the original development studio. All NoA does is tell NCL what needs changing. They do not get more funds for that.
>>337751339
:3c ????
>/v/ sent them a card after their 2014 E3
>almost sent them a censored hate card full of /v/ memes to try and 'protest' censorship
I'm going to buy TMS and may even havefunwith it.
>>337751762
It's not useless if it upholds your morals, anon. That's as good a use as any other for you or someone like you. By all means, do what your heart tells you to do.
What I wanted to say is that it's innefective in getting a point across and changing the reality of the situation.
>>337752323
buy me a copy as well.
>idol outfit censored
>combat outfit completely unchanged
I don't even. It's even far more revealing and risque than the idol outfit.
>>337752158
That'd probably be a decent way of reaching to them with actually very few people involved.
>>337747935
>Even the argument of "protecting the brand" is kinda iffy when you take into account Nintendo is already associated with Bayonetta and Hyrule Warriors.
what does that have to do with them?
Nintendo of america did not localize either of those games, they only censor what they work on because they want to protect the brand
stop using bayonetta as a "why didn't this get censored" example, NoA had nothing to do with it
>>337733419
As dumb as it is, I get the censoring of naked tits. But why cleavage? What the fuck is so bad about it? Did a localizer get triggered by some chick with D cups at the supermarket?
>>337752158
I almost wish they sent it.
Before long, it would have popped up on every corner of the Internet, complete with clickbait articles. I can just see it in my mind's eye.
"Misogynistic Gamers of /v/ Protest the Removal of Petting Minigame by Sending Hate-Filled Card"
It would have found its way to TV, with live interviews by Zoe Quinn, Brian(na) Wu, and Allison Rapp, decrying the sexism, pedophile, and hysteria of modern gamers.
The core issue would have been completely lost in the circus. It would have been the best thing ever.
>>337738658
>>337739201
>>337739227
It's probably less "SJW" influence and more Nintendo blindly adhering to their family friendly image in America no matter how badly they sink their company.
They should just come up with a Touchstone to Nintendo's Disney if they want to preserve MUH PRECIOUS FAMILY FRIENDLY IMAGE! so badly.
>>337752639
It just refutes the protecting the brand argument. Bayonetta 2 is exclusive to Nintendo it is tied with Nintendo's image and part of the Nintendo brand even though they didn't localize it. It's not about the brand, it's more likely that NoA is full of SJWs who are in charge of localization.
>>337752158
They were so fucking good at that E3.
>>337734404
>raise the age so merikans won't be shocked
>change body features anyway
for what purpose
>>337752884
exactly, its specifically NoA no one else in nintendo seems to care about protecting that child safe image
>>337752895
>2014 Nintendo was GOAT
>2015 was meh
>2016 is looking to be garbage/nonexistent
Nintendo is really fucking up lately.
>>337751218
you have no excuse, especially now that you can hack your shit. pirate or buy used if you still want to play a ruined game. if you pay for a product you aren't happy with you're a cuck.
>>337752096
I've never played Nier or a Drakengaard game but this looks fucking sweet.
>>337750569
It IS a really nice outfit. It's just the reason WHY it's there that's making people mad.
>>337752096
This. Nier Automata is looking really solid, and we know what to expect from Platinum games. Even with no-budget cash-ins like Transformers and Korra, they still manage to make a satisfying combat system.
And Persona 5 is looking better and better with each new piece of information we get, so even people burned by how #FE turned out can have something to wash the taste out.
>>337750910
I wish I was there.
>>337754086
That's bullshit rationalizing towards your own interests.
As I said, I'd preffer no censorship over censoring, but I wasn't buying the game excusively for the content that was cut out. The game might still hold value, but I'll wait to see what people who actually played the game think of it before comitting, like I do with almost everything.
First of all, you have to make an assessment whether or not the product is still worth the price. If it's not just don't buy it. If it's worth the time but not the price then sure pirate it, but if that's the case there's probably better things to do with your time.
If the game still holds value though, then it's better to buy it, not only for the game itself but for the sake of showing interest in the product and then voice your opinion on how to improve it.
Not giving any sort of feedback (cash or opinion, but preferibly both) is useless for them to figure out what the fuck you want. Or even if you cry about it but not show enough interest in the rest of the game, then you just want a lewd/porn game, which is fine, but Nintendo specifically probably don't want to make that.
>>337754657
Problem with Platinum games is every game is like 3 hours long at most.
