Anyone else here play Flight sims?
i sure do
doesn't mean i'm good at them though
>>337710885
One of the most rewarding genres in my opinion. Once you have your first successful flight, you feel like a real pilot.
>>337711171
yep, and it gets even better if you can do it while people are shooting at you
>>337711393
How is that game? never played it
>>337711578
it's really good. you can play it for free, too. you get two of the planes to try out, iirc
>>337710885
Basically this. I've loved them since before I had a computer. I remember going to my cousins and playing FS 4 or 5 with a joystick and experiencing 3d flight for the first time. I've been hooked ever since.
>>337710767
Which is better?
X-plane, FSX or Pr3pared?
Has anyone played Flight School?
>>337713286
idk, i only play combat flight sims
original IL-2 is still really great, and only ten bux
>>337710767
Not really. But it's on my to-do list.
Feels like a comfy way to stimulate my fauxtism.
>>337713378
I used to play the crap out of IL2 Forgotten Battles. I was pretty good on the Ubi servers but I never tried the Hyperlobby ones. I keep trying to convince my brothers and friends to play so I can have a LAN match but it seems people are more into action games for some reason.
>>337712352
Wait, which game is this? I swear I've played this a long time ago.
>>337713859
i think all the multiplayer's through hyperlobby these days. it's worth the effort, though
>>337713994
A-10 Cuba! It was pretty impressive for 1996. I still enjoy playing it and it still has charm even though it has obviously been surpassed by DCS.
It easily had the best ground handling physics of the time and even surpassed most racing sims.
>>337714086
I need to get a decent control setup going. Part of what helped me do well in dogfights was force feedback. I could really feel where the plane was in a turn based on the flutter effects. Now that there's nothing with force feedback I feel handicapped.
>>337715141
but force feedback works fine in IL-2
>>337715949
My Force Feedback Pro doesn't work with my system and I don't like paying several hundred dollars for a discontinued g940.
I'd love to know if there are any quality alternatives.
>>337716161
nope, i think the G940 was the last of the force feedback joysticks. i was lucky enough to get a working one just before they were discontinued
wish someone would make another FF stick, because it's like trackIR: once you've played with it you don't want to do without
>>337711865
three planes, one of which is one of the better planes in the game
>>337713378
>says original IL2
>posts IL2 1946
>>337716653
i meant "not clod or bos" you fucking moron
>>337716501
>i think the G940 was the last of the force feedback joysticks
That's depressing. Flight sims used to be the most popular genre for PC. Now it's a just a tiny niche with little mainstream support.
>>337717018
its basically impossible to produce a mainstream flight sim, because flying is hard. you can go the il2 route and include an arcadey option to snag wart hunter players, but ultimately it will always be a niche hobby
really the only difference is that PCs used to also be a niche hobby
>twitch
>watch some guy play a flight sim
>only like 25 viewers
>ask him if he's ever crashed the plane on purpose
>gets offended and says no
>do this for every flight sim stream
>they all say no and get buttmad
Are people who play simulators all autistic or what?
>>337717249
no, your joke just wasn't funny
>>337717310
it wasn't a joke
i legitimately wanted to know if he ever gets bored and just crashes for fun
>>337717249
Considering I already posted a webm of me flying like an idiot and crashing for fun I'd say no.
>>337716501
I wonder if trackIR will be obsolete with VR or is VR to low res for cockpit use?
>>337717458
>I wonder if trackIR will be obsolete with VR or is VR to low res for cockpit use?
According to that one guy on /simg/ that played DCS with the Occulus, it's actually perfect for cockpit use. It's everything outside the cockpit that's the problem.
>>337717458
i see VR working out like trackIR--a niche product for sim spergs
i don't see it as the future of gaming, but the future of sims? maybe
>>337717681
Ahh right, it would probably really mess with your head if you tried zooming in for a gun run.
>>337718002
Mainly the resolution is just too low to see planes without setting model enlargment to maximum.
>>337717905
It seems perfect for a low fidelity sim cockpit game like Elite.
>>337718198
i hear elite is amazing in VR
even if you can't quite read shit on your displays
>>337717905
The military might also have use for it.
>>337718523
If the cheap-ass military can't even afford to buy a proper A-10 hotas setup I doubt they're going to buy VR.
>>337718860
The military has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on setups that can run VBS, it's not an issue of funding.
Has anyone played the Flight Unlimited games? Best looking pc game of 1995 and a really good flight model too. Not even my 300mhz K6-2 with 64 megs of ram could max it.
>>337719076
Then whoever is in charge of procurement for that was a bit of an idiot for not buying a hotas that was literally designed for the a-10c
>>337719261
It doesn't really matter to be perfectly honest, these are guys that are literally going to be using the real thing. They're not dumb enough that the buttons being slightly different is going to be an issue. If you want an a-10 hotas for your simulation roleplay accuracy then go for it bud, but it serves very little training functionality.
>>337710767
What I'd the best Flight Simulator?
>>337719552
sounds like the excuse of the idiot responsible for not getting the correct hotas
>>337720350
Yeah it was totally me. It's not like it's completely logical because the joystick is probably used for multiple simulations.
>>337720081
Falcon BMS if you actually care about realism and don't care if there's only one plane to fly.
DCS if you want aircraft variety and don't mind some pretty borked mechanics or are simply new to the genre.
IL2 Battle of Stalingrad if you want WW2.
Rise of Flight if you want WW1
>>337720081
Combat or civilian?
DCS is the best for modern combat. Il2 1946 is a good for old-school dogfighting. The newer ones take some modding to be acceptable simulators and they never seem to go below 30 bucks on sale.
I guess it would be either X-Plane or FSX for civilian but I'm not sure which.
>>337720523
I haven't tried Falcon yet and Rise of Flight is the only game in town for a ww1 sim but I think WW2 is more interesting and has more variety if you're starting out in flight sims.
>>337720523
il2 BoS has shitty reviews, is it actually any good?
>>337720523
What's borked about DCS?
>>337720753
It was pretty broken on release. I think it's ok with mods. CoD was the same story and with mods pretty much everything was fixed, other than the shitty, jerky control animations.
>>337719261
I used to play Flight Unlimited 3 all the time, trying to fly by Bill Gates house
>>337720871
Quite a bit, especially if you count Flaming Cliffs with its simplified flight models. Other than that, Missiles are modeled poorly, the distance scaling for plane models isn't great, comms aren't modeled realistically and the single-player content is abysmal.
Falcom BMS does all of those things a lot better, albeit only with the F-16, so it's the go-to sim if you actually care about realism.
>>337718860
They had me use a A-10 HOTAS for the ASTB when I applied for the Navy. Most sims are done in full visual cockpit sims or instrument trainer cockpits. No idea what these guys are doing in this picture.>>337718523
>>337721321
do you have any mod recommendations?
>>337721494
I've really got to install BMS already.
>>337721618
This: >>337720685
Handy guide if anyone needs it
http://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/content.php?12277-How-ToFly-Jetliners
I have 20000 flight hours in Falcon 4.0
>>337721975
Do they even use VOR anymore? You'd think it would be all GPS by now.
>>337721751
the post you linked doesn't even list specific mods let alone ones for il2 bos
>>337722401
Oh right. The Team Fusion mod for CoD. I'm not sure which is best for BoS.
>>337720685
>I haven't tried Falcon yet and Rise of Flight is the only game in town for a ww1 sim but I think WW2 is more interesting and has more variety if you're starting out in flight sims.
Rise of Flight has one of the largest rosters of any combat flight sim I've seen, and the difference between planes is sometimes pretty phenomenal.
Comparatively, by WW2 planes were far more standardized in terms of cockpit layout and handling and feel a lot more similar on a case by case basis. The difference between an Eindecker, a Dr. 1, and say a Spad-XIII is far greater than the difference between a P51 and a FockeWulf imo!
>>337721478
Flight Unlimited 2 had great rain effects. Most games still don't animate raindrops on the windshield that well.
I remember playing one called Warbird.
Don't know if I can find it or if it's still around.
Took ages to learn how to get a plane from the ground. And when I finnaly managed to actually hit a ship with one of the bombs on board, it was an allied ship.
>>337723232
flying an eindecker in RoF was really something else
just looking over the wing, moving the joystick and seeing all the wires move and the wing actually warping, oh wow
>>337723583
the weird control surfaces and power to weight ratios are unlike any other flight sim i've played, you can do some really wacky stuff in those old planes. the Dr. 1 can prophang like a helicopter for what feels like ages and if you're slick on the rudder and blipswitch you can practically spin it around like a top
>>337723583
>>337723232
It's a fine sim and I enjoy playing it occasionally. I just think they are all pretty slow and underpowered compared to ww2 so the dogfights aren't as exciting. Your options are also pretty limited in ground attack and there is obviously no naval carrier action. It's all pretty much limited to the northern European theatre.
I only play hardcore flight sims like Kerbal and War Thunder.
>>337723991
that's up to you. imo it just makes the tactics different, opens up some new possibilities while closing others.
it's also a great learner sim imo, partially because the planes are fairly slow and some of them are pretty forgiving.
>>337724230
>KSP airplanes
Unless you disable all gyro control, you're a filthy casual.
>>337723991
>I just think they are all pretty slow and underpowered compared to ww2 so the dogfights aren't as exciting.
once you realize that altitude is energy your dogfights are as exciting as you want them to be
more so, in fact, because you can throw WWI planes around a lot more than WWII planes. shit that would just make you spin and die in a spitfire just makes your camel go "so what?"
>>337724593
To be fair to the devs, that webm was with the old stock aero model. It wouldn't be able to keep flying like that in the newer version.
>>337724879
My hotol micro-SSTO doesn't work well with the new flight model either.
>>337713286
FSX for mods, X-Plane for realistic road/airport layout
FlightGear/Google Earth if you don't want to spend a dime
>>337725328
Which has the best physics?
>>337725469
Prepar3d
>>337724593
thisalthough all my planes end up looking the same
>>337724230
is IVA usable for spaceplanes?
>>337720753
The sim itself is great, but the campaign mode is basically non existent. Focus is on multiplayer.
Devs are making more planes and maps instead of making a campaign mode. Pretty sure they are waiting for the community to come up with a campaign generator.
>>337726481
I like it best for approaches.
What's a good stick for a beginner? I tried playing DCS with an Xbox controller, but that didn't really work out too well.
Is the Thrustmaster Flight Hotas Stick X any good? It's around 50 bucks, which is an amount I won't feel bad about spending even if it turns out I don't like flying after all. I know that you need to spend a lot of cash for a proper setup, but I just want something that works to gauge if flying is fun for me.
Would I still have to use the mouse or keyboard if I had a flight stick with throttle controls?
>>337728474
i got along fine with this thing for several years, but i hear saitek's kind of shitty now
>>337728474
Hotas X is good but doesn't have enough buttons. I had one and I liked it though I'm using X52 now.
>>337728474
I've heard the x-52 is pretty good. I haven't really liked any of the cheaper Logitechs I've tried.
I'm using the Fly 5 right now and the response is good but the spring was too stiff and broke tension unevenly for a long time. It's a little more worn in now. Some of the buttons snapped off because they were attached by 2 tiny points of plastic.
I really liked the old Microsoft joysticks but support for them is long gone.
>>337728942
How do you like the x52?
>>337724593
>>337724230
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moGrLkBaOl0
I would love to get comfy by playing some realistic flight sim with some VR headset while listening to classic rock.
>>337730514
>classic rock
This is the only acceptable soundtrack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IC-fUPeBBw
>>337730954
DCS needs to release f-14 and f-5e modules. I want to fight Russian F-5s over the Nevada desert.
>>337730954
if you're not flying jets you need to play https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZO6giM9UAv0
>>337729643
I had centering issues when I first had it but the recent driver fixed it.I think
How is War Thunder? I've been pretty burned on F2P games lately.
>>337731812
Not a flight sim for starters.
>>337731812
it's not good if you're expecting a sim
it's good if you're looking for some ace combat kind of shit
Do any of you play with Flight Sticks?
What's the best value for money in terms of flight sticks?
>>337718523
I have the even cheaper thrustmaster stick without the separate thrust controller. (Thrustmaster Joystick T-Flight Stick X)
Also, playing a sim developed by Russians, lel.
Now that's cuckoldry at its best!
>>337733557
Logitech extreme 3d Pro
>>337710767
War Thunder is pretty good.
>>337712352
HOLY SHIT
this game
this fucking game
>play the shit out of this
>love it
>cousin comes over one day
>show him the basic controls
>watch him play for a bit
>go to the bathroom
>come back
>he somehow managed to eject from the plane AND got his parachute stuck on the plane's wing
>hes just stuck there while the plane keeps going on and on for a long time before it crashes
I never found out how he did it, the absolute madman
>>337734684
I usually just parked in the hangar at the end of the mission before I hit eject.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ii7RtviO1vM
>>337734108
How is Wings of Prey?
>>337726481
Yea, the stock IVA functionality leaves a lot to be desired, but there are some nice mods that enhance it.
>>337736068
It's literally Warhunder before it went f2p.
>>337716653
>doesn't realize IL-2 1946 is literally IL-2 Forgotten Battles + all the patches and expansions
>>337736408
>doesn't realize that Forgotten Battles is literally a standalone expansion to the original IL2
>>337721607
They're using the version of DCS:A-10C that was developed for the ANG/USAF A-10 pilots, to help transition from the A model to the C model
>>337712352
Hell yeah this was great. Played a lot of IL-2 as well but haven't really been able to get into any other flight sims, perhaps because these were relatively simple.
>>337736569
The DCS Flaming Cliffs airplanes are almost as simple.
>>337736526
>doesn't realize IL-2 Forgotten Battles is literally the original IL-2, with new maps and planes, and that Oleg decided that the series could grow to new depths with the idea of implementing expansions every few months
>>337736684
There's no such thing as "DCS' Flaming Cliffs. All the original Lock On planes that are in DCS have updated AFM/PFM flight models, and new 6DoF cockpits, and functioning switches and buttons, just without the option of click-ability yet
used to play combat flight simulator 2 but not played in years its all about silent hunter and world of tanks anyway.
>>337730514
>Flight simulator with a VRheadset
only if the Headset is shaped like a flight helmet
>>337736946
Sure but they are simple enough to operate compared to the full modules. The flight model shouldn't be a problem if you're using a joystick like you should.
>>337737008
Silent Hunter's great. I really need to figure out how to properly do bearings and fixes and shit.
>>337737265
>Ace Combat
>'flight sim'...
>Just started a short flight
>Find this thread
Neat.
>>337737395
Its a real shame the series went to shit after 4. But yeah its fucking great. the worst moment was when all my torpedoes missed the rodney and then went on to sink the fucking bismark instead.
>>337737704
What game bro dawg? I love games with good interior view and shit. Can you free look around ala Arma?
War thunder, il2 1946, cliffs of Dover, and battle of Stalingrad.
>>337737907
P3D with an asston of addons.
Yeah, you can look around, most of the switches and shit function too.
>>337737765
My best moment was trying to catch sight of a convoy in about the worst storm I'd been in when a destroyer suddenly appeared across my path out of the mist at barely over a thousand meters. I quickly whipped up a 3 torpedo salvo but didn't have time to do a proper ranging or speed reading so I just gave it a quick guess. I fired away and managed to hit it with all 3 torpedoes for a near instant sinking.
I never thought I would get into a game that slow paced but it is seriously addicting.
>>337737704
How do you guys enjoy 2+hour flights?
>>337738283
Shit man its exam season and you are making me wanna re install good job I don't have the disk with me.
>>337738112
My nigga
>>337738318
I typically avoid long flights, only time I do them is if Vatsim has some event going on, since you get all the neat radio chatter to keep things interesting. But, you don't need to pay that much attention to the plane in cruise so you can just browse the web or whatever and just keep an eye on things.
>>337738430
>good job I don't have the disk with me.Only 10 bucks on Steam...
>>337738176
Thanks. Any addons that is a must?
>>337738656
NOOOOOO!
>>337738762
Most important is planes, stuff that comes with the sim isn't that great (Aerosoft A320 is what I'm flying)
After that, Active Sky for weather, REX for better textures/clouds, any airports that you fly from often, Orbx stuff for nicer scenery.Most of this stuff is pirateable too, if you're not comfortable spending literally hundreds on it
