I am absolutely baffled by the fact that people literally "donate" hundreds of $$$ to youngsters sitting at home playing video games. By putting on a fake personality and feigning intimacy streamers manage to rein in countless followers over to their channel. Overtime the regular viewers start to develop a pseudo-relationship with the gamer and consider him/her to be their friend. Eventually this begins a cycle of steady cash flow in which the most loyal followers attempt to prove their devotion by sending in the most money so that their name might get listed in the top rankings. Keep in mind that this 'entertainment' is free for everyone. Yet numerous individuals can't help but hand over their hard earned cash to these entitled unemployed millennials .
How did we manage to come to this point?
Can this ever be stopped?
You don't actually contribute to this nefarious system do you /v/?
Kappa
It's legal you dumb faggot, whether or not it's stupid is irrelevant.
Did you give all your savings to a streamer or something
>>337691068
Ill follow a streamer if he is cool to watch/listen to while I play vidya
or if he is particularly good at the game
>>337691068
>youngsters
They let you use internet at retirement homes?
I don't know, but it's sickening and these donators are mentally ill
>>337691068
Its watever people are free to do wat they want with their money.
>>337691068
The principal is basically the same as going to a strip club if you're not getting sex from the strippers. You go there, give them money, they give you attention. If they aren't giving you attention then at least you're sitting back and enjoying the show. They might say something to you or something and that might be exciting but otherwise people are just donating because they enjoy the entertainment. Its not really a new concept. To say that its a scam is retarded because nobody is forcing them to give them money. Its just a newly discovered entertainment outlet and people are exploiting it.
Shit like this makes me lose faith in humanity and I dread for what is to come. One twitch user was exposed after having faked a disability to gain viewers, claiming to be paralyzed from the waist down. The guy just stood up during one of his sessions and forgot that the cam was running. Needless to say the fraud had earned thousands of dollars before twitch banned his account. It's funny how his gf notices his fuck up and immediately begins her pathetic damage control in an attempt to distract his viewers. Goes to show how retarded these streamers think their followers really are. Unfortunately this is not an isolated case. Link Provided.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbtdLKZJWVY
>>337691068
are you over 30?
if not you are also a millenial.
>>337691332
you are cancer and underage for sure
I dont watch gay lets plays, streams or fucking whatever
its fucking paying a camwhore to not show her your tits
its like paying a hooker to massage her
i dont know what the fuck is wrong with people
You hit the nail on the head really, they are exploiting the types of people who play games by offering them psuedo-friendship. I think it is similar to people who leave to TV on so that they don't feel alone.
Beware, a lot of those donations are fake. People see the fake donations, they assume that they are real, and think that it's a good idea for themselves to donate.
>>337691514
>he only watches things in a sexual way
so are movies bullshit too because you cant have sex with them?
i mean lets plays are cancer, yes, but your comparision is retarded
>>337691265
Just because something is legal doesn't mean it's right. Slavery is a good example.
>>337691708
>so are movies bullshit too because you cant have sex with them?
no but video game streams are synanonmous to watching someone watch a movie.
>>337691473
he streams on hitbox these days and instabans anyone who talks about it
The people who donate, do you ever felt the need to just hand out money to your irl friends when you hung around them.
You're sittin on the couch watchin your friend play a game and you just hand over 10 bucks every now and then to him. No?
why? because that would be fucking retarded and insane.
>>337691068
It's reality TV. Welcome to the entertainment of the 21st century.
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!?
>>337691332
What do you get out of this? Genuinely curious. Why not just play the game yourself? I'd understand if this was a pro gamer or something but this is not the case here.
>>337691876
lol this
>>337691068
there's that word again.
>>337691876
There's a group of people called ffstv, and their fans do infact pay them to watch a movie's
They're getting like 5000 a month to watch a movie every month
>>337691893
i dont know, when i see someone playing heavy rain its like watching a movie with directors comments
>>337691784
kill yourself
>>337691068
Deal with it commie.
>>337691068
Damn youngsters!
JUSTIN.TV WAS TOP TIER, funny streamers, alot movies and tv shows, twitch became jewish amazon pro feminism bullshit full with sellout retarded social outcasts
>>337691068
There's literally nothing wrong with giving 20 bux here and there to cute girls so you get a smile and a thank you for it. I'd rather give my money for a smile than to have it rot away in my wallet.
So there is this recurring theme of ex-pornstars turning to twitch to whore themselves out in a more modern way.
But why don't people just watch their old videos instead? Wouldn't that be immensely more gratifying?
>>337692652
Kill yourself
/v/ never uses the word "scam" correctly.
>>337691784
what's wrong with slavery?
>>337692636
Post dick
"A Fool and his money are soon parted" is a saying for a reason.
>>337691068
they ask and people decide to give. You are bitching because you are unable to do the same.
When you kill god you gotta replace it with something.
Any anons here that have actually subscribed to twitch steamers? Please shed some light into this strange phenomenon by providing us with your personal perspective on why it occurs and what you hope to gain.
>>337691068
>I don't like thing
>must be scam
Scam has a specific meaning
Use it properly
>>337692840
That's a really unncecessary comment. Am I hurting you for giving money to people to make them happy? Don't you ever give beggars money just to make them happy? Are you that much of a soulless monster?
>>337692652
Jesus, you fucking loser
I pay money to subscribe to streamers and get excited when they take 3 seconds to acknowledge and thank me while faking graditutde and then promptly forget about me. It makes me feel important when someone popular and well liked talks to me
Well, when you can't even get a job in fast food anymore, what else are you going to do?
http://www.investors.com/politics/policy/wendys-serves-up-kiosks-as-wages-rise-hits-fast-food-group/
People have been throwing money at human pets for centuries. We just broadened the skillset from "pretend to enjoy having sex with me" to "let me watch you play video games."
People tend to tip if they feel like they got a good entertainment value. It's a performance. It's like throwing a couple bucks in some street performers guitar case as you walk by. The people that tip also tend to get many hours of entertainment.
People get to do what they want with their hard earned money.
>>337693120
But giving beggars money is stupid. Give street beggars food or something, if you give them money they'll just spend it on booze.
Not him, but I think it's an opportunity cost thing. You COULD spend your $20 smile money on something for yourself (games, nice meal, save for better stuff, etc) or give it to someone who actually needs money and it would make them happy (charity). But you give it to people who don't really need it.
But whatever floats your boat. It's essentially entertainment, just a different version of it that I don't really understand.
>>337691068
Aren't streamers just entertainers but instead of being on stage, they sit at home and play games?
Not that I pay for that but it can be entertaining
>>337693490
>You COULD spend your $20 smile money on something for yourself
But I am. I give it to someone who gets happy and smiles for me, which in turn makes me happy. It's a win-win situation. Hell I don't even like to play video games, I'd rather watch cute girls play them so if I can donate money to streamers so THEY can play more games it gives ME more happiness at the same time. Again, win-win.
>>337693102
In my opinion the biggest scams are those which don't appear to be as such. Someone in this thread posted a guy who pretended to be disabled in order to get sympathy dosh.
>>337693743
A scam never appears to be a scam
That's the point of scams
>>337692636
LONDON
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SHOCKED by how many cancerous underage faggots infesting this place crawled out of the wood-work and called out on OP for bringing up a real issue that vidya is facing today.
This is an all-time new low even for you /v/.
>>337693894
Exactly. That's what I meant.
>>337693743
No shit.
>Git gud scrub
Not a troll
>You won 1 million dollars in the lotery enter credit card info for get money
Not a scam
>>337694215
Yeah but this isn't a scam because you get exactly what you expect
You donate 5 bucks fully knowing that you get nothing in return except shoutouts from some streamers
Now if you were promised a blowjob that never happened then it'd be a scam
>>337691068
fuck off moralfag
>>337692636
>>337693682
You're so fucking pathetic that I can't even make fun of you.
im the only non virgin in this thread
>>337693682
Like I said, whatever floats your boat.
The part about not liking games, but liking watching them, is just something I don't get.
>>337691068
it's not a scam
people are allowed to spend money on dumb shit
they know they're not getting anything in return
>>337692651
This
I miss the days of comfy anime streams on justin.tv
Fuck capitalism, it destroys everything
>>337692652
This is the most pathethic post I've ever read.
>>337691068
>How did we manage to come to this point?
Since the dawn of society. Have you ever heard of a court jester, or any carnival performers.
>Can this ever be stopped?
You should kill yourself for wanting to control what people spend their money on. Do everyone a favor and never vote because you'd likely go for some big government trash anyway.
>You don't actually contribute to this nefarious system do you /v/?
Of course not.
>>337691068
>young gamers create a whole new market and job system
>Gamers that have no personality get panties in a twist because they are unable to make money in this new field.
>instead of finding their own field they can make money off of they bitch and moan about twitch users.
"Yes. Everyone at Harvard is inventing
something. Harvard undergraduates believe that inventing a job is better than finding a job so I’ll suggest again that the two of you come up with a new new project."
>>337693682
Do you buy movie tickets for "cute girls" and then just sit there, staring at them as they watch the movie?
>>337694626
this
op is more retarded than the people who watch it
>>337692636
What's your PSN bitch?
>>337694826
>you can't critisize people for how they spend their money
Drink bleach redditor
>>337691068
it makes perfect sense to me since video games are entertaining. It was going to happen eventually
I'm more disgusted by cucks who give camwhores like $5000 at a time. I hope they're saudi billionaires or something
>mfw all those faggots itt are butthurt because they are mentally retarded since they donated somewhere
>>337695013
Go ask daddy government to make some more laws that prohibit it. Little liberal cuck.
>>337691068
fuck off grandpa
>>337694625
Before Twitch I used to play games on Easy just got the experience but I never actually liked playing, now with Twitch I can get the full experience without having to bother playing the games.
>>337694895
Not exactly, but my best friend is a girl and I sometimes give her money to go to the movie on dates. She's poor and I have plenty of money so why not? I see myself as a very generous person and I like to make people feel good without getting anything in return.
>>337695203
Fuck you. I am a liberal, but I think anyone should spend money on whatever they want.
Not all liberals are anti-capitalist idiots.
>>337695394
>but I think anyone should spend money on whatever they want
Try developing some reading comprehension then you braindead fuckwit. That's literally the point that you freaked out about
>>337695013
>>337694826
>You should kill yourself for wanting to control what people spend their money on.
Fuck off.
>>337695546
Maybe you should try developing a brain. That person you responded to isn't the same person you were talking to before.
t. a third person (in case you couldn't figure that out)
>>337691784
slavery is illegal dumbass
>>337694626
The thing is that no streamer in existence owns up to the fact that he/she doesn't give a single fuck about anyone watching. Instead when someone joins in they make it like some sort of a ritual in which a new member is being inducted into the community. It's the general facade overlaying everything that gives twitch a sort of devious aspect. Furthermore... twitchers... grill gamers especially have a 'wishlist' in which they mention things that they'd like for their followers to buy for them. The items range from plush toys to engagement rings worth thousands of dollars.
People pay money for stupid things. More news at 11.
>>337695546
see
>>337695638
/v/ is not one person and you.
OP are you a beta?
I am absolutely baffled by the fact that people literally spend hundreds of $$$ to minorities at fighting in a ring. And people pretending to be characters from stories. Overtime the regular viewers start to develop a pseudo-relationship with the actor and consider him/her to be their friend. Eventually this begins a cycle of steady cash flow in which the most loyal followers attempt to prove their devotion by sending in the most money so that their name might get listed in the top views. Keep in mind that this 'entertainment' is cheap for everyone. Yet numerous individuals can't help but hand over their hard earned cash to these entitled actors and pay per view stations.
How did we manage to come to this point?
Can this ever be stopped?
You don't actually contribute to this nefarious system do you /v/?
>>337695784
Thank you for not being able to make a counter argument.
>>337695638
Try replying with a little less ambiguity in the future.
>Wendy, streamers are just crooks. They are not your friend.
>>337695661
Perhaps you're just shitposting but understanding examples is not your strong suit I take it? Has slavery always been illegal? Who's to say that publicly soliciting "donations" over the internet won't be outlawed someday as well.
>>337691068
You sound like you're jealous.
Why the fuck do you care what others do with their time and money? It has absolutely no effect on your life, mind your own business retard.
>want to make that big twitch and youtube money
>too scared to actually try
>>337696041
Republicucks feel the need to involve themselves with others' lives to an unhealthy degree.
>>337695705
>>337695546
autists, try reading comprehension. you CAN spend your money on whatever you choose, but it doesn't mean you're not a fucking retard and beyond reproach for spending it on stupid shit like streamer donations
>>337695927
This analogy make absolutely zero sense. Try harder. Btw... who are you subscribed to anon?
It's just the online version of the street musician panhandling really. You can ignore it just like in real life. Whether other people wanna give their money or not is their business. The only issue is there is potential for money laundering with shit like this.
>>337696169
Okay
Now what
>>337696027
Yes, but "hey, watch me play games and donate if you like it" and the enslavement of a human being are two very different things you fucking idiot.
>>337695963
>a little less ambiguity
>4chan
>>337696027
smoking is legal and its life ruining
if you think donating to streamers will be outlawed in a world where smoking is legal then you're fucking delusional
neck yourself
>>337696297
>It's just the online version of the street musician panhandling really.
Now that's a pretty good comparison
>>337691068
>By putting on a fake personality and feigning intimacy streamers manage to rein in countless followers
literally most of "celebrities"
why would you care if some fags donate money because they are betas and they feel like its the only way they will ever get recognition
>an idiot and his money...
>>337696143
If you don't have tits then I hope you're the best player at a current, competitive online game, on the planet. That's the only way a man can make money.
>>337695337
Look, I love video games, but if you don't even like playing them what's the point of feeling the experience of the game? Your time could be utilized better watching a movie or reading a book. Not as if video game stories or experiences are amazingly deep.
>>337696307
You stop relying on axiomatic logic and accept that "it's their money they can spend it how they want" isn't a good arguement against bad decisions, ever.
>>337696345
>has never seen a post that contains "not who you're replying to"
People donate to be more known or to flex their money boners at people.
Twitch is nothing but people endlessly advertising and bloating their twitters with follow bots and automessaging.
I wish there was some criteria for being able to stream. A ton of shit is out there.
>>337696447
No, now what in the context of this thread
>>337696447
freedom means freedom to make bad decisions
How is it a scam to give money for your entertainment?
I mean, I'm too jewish to pay for something I can get for free, but what is the difference between paying for a movie or donating to a twitch streamer? Both times you're giving money to sit there and be entertained.
>>337696447
A part of having true freedom is that you're allowed to make bad decisions.
It IS their money and they can spend it in whatever way they want. You might disagree but guess what, nobody cares about your opinion.
>>337696589
>paying
>donating
Answered your own question
>>337691597
This happens in donation wars.
>>337696450
Ive also seen post with trip and names in them does mean i need to go tripfag it up moron.
>>337696684
But that's just a technicality. There are plenty of films or plays that show for free and then ask for donations at the end.
>>337691438
This
>>337696723
It means you shouldn't be surprised when you get a reply as if you're part of the fucking posts. Newfaggot.
>>337691494
I am 34 and im the definition of a millenial : someone that got 18 in the year 2000.
Try to get some education before trying to correct others...
>>337696849
Donations are entirely optional, otherwise they wouldn't be donations.
>People paying money to be entertained
I can't believe it either
>>337691068
>getting mad about how other people make money
>it's not even illegal
autism at its finest. quit being jelly that so many people are more talented than you
Who /enjoyplayingalone/ here?
I'm never going to sellout as a gamer by turning my hobby into something so despicable. No matter how much financial advantage I'd be able to attain I won't ever be able to get comfortable with the fact that there a bunch of old fat and most probably naked dudes watching me play Bloodborne. Fuck twitch. Fuck broadcasting. Fuck streaming. FUCK the gamers that don't have any sense of dignity. The actually do a dance when someone subscribes just like a monkey would.
>>337696998
>gaming
>dignity
alright this has to be bait
>ITT:/v/irgins are triggered some normies are getting money for playing vidya
topkeklullel you're just jealous noone wants to watch your fatass stream niche games, huh?
>>337691068
Are there any sites like JUSTIN TV?
>>337696998
Playing alone is objectively inferior to playing with an audience. It's fun to be able to talk to people about what you're doing.
>>337696998
who gives a shit
>all of these bernKEKS getting BTFO
we know you want to sit and do nothing to make money...
but that aint happening when the donald is president
MAGA
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get the fuck OUT YOU KEKS.
> top doom stream
> has a league of legends layout
> mutters a few words a minute that you can hardly understand
> donations rolling in
I dont get why people idolize some autistic LoL streamer so much that they donate. This guy clearly has brain problems because he can't speak like a normal human yet people dump cash on him.
Most of the LoL streamers are shit at communucation.
>>337696998
so brave
>>337697207
was it dyrus
>>337697130
>a Republicuck is an authoritarian anti-capitalist
Wew, whod've thought.
>>337697130
fuck off trumpfaggot
>>337697130
>all this projection and blanket generalization
I'd love to slaughter you in intellectual discourse but I'd rather you shove your half-brained opinions in places only your mother has seen and
>fuck off back to /pol/
you incredulous dumbass
I'm not fond of this trend either but calling it a scam makes no sense, that implies that donators are being tricked into doing something when they generally know exactly what their money is going toward
There are cases like the guy who pretended to be a cripple then got caught, but usually when people throw money at some streamer making her tits jiggle on camera they already know they're getting nothing more than a vague warm fuzzy feeling out of it so it doesn't make sense to call it a scam
>>337697262
I don't know. I just wanted to watch some top streamer play Doom and they were so bad at streaming I was looking for viewbots in chat.
95% of 0 viewer streams are better than that guy. The other 5% have no mic.
>>337697430
>I'd love to slaughter you in intellectual discourse
The confused anti-freedom trumpfag you're replying to is an idiot, but holy shit man.
>>337696143
>tfw started streaming regularly
>tfw having a blast while doing it
The whole donation aspect seems so weird to me right now, I'm having fun as fuck streaming, people enjoy watching and I live comfortably with the money I have, what else do I need?
>>337697694
I-i-increulous! INCREDULOUS
It's not really an issue. A fool and their purse are easily parted.
I don't donate, subscribe or any of that. It's very simple: There are many games that i don't buy because i'm very picky, and also i don't like to waste my money unless i'm 100% sure that it's a good investment. So i watch streams, that makes it much easier to evaluate a game. Also sometimes after a long day, when i'm too tired to do anything productive, i watch streams that have less viewers and you can have actual discussion in the chat.
>>337697726
Keep up entertaining others and yourself and don't be greedy to ruin everything.
>>337697130
>A republican president is going to stop a capitalist venture
I swear you trumpfags know about as much about him as the liberals who hate him
>>337697726
Same.
My problem is finding the time. 2 hour streams don't seem worth it.
>>337696427
Dangaming seems to be getting by with sucking dick at games.
>>337696998
There is a difference between being a spineless sellout and a gamer who likes to share his experiences with others.
A cuck and his dignity are easily departed
>>337697938
>i watch streams that have less viewers and you can have actual discussion in the chat.
This is another thing, if you're watching streams with a ton of viewers like AGDQ or Siglemic the chat tends to be pure noise but on a channel with only a couple dozen people watching it the atmosphere in the chat tends to be much more pleasant and easier to keep up with
>>337695307
I'm 21 familium :^)
Feels good knowing that no matter what I do in my life I'll never be as pathetic as the retards that fork over cash to their twitch pals just to have their name read out loud.
>>337697974
It really bugs me when I go into some small stream and see a big ass donation button with banners on stream stating top donors etchilarious if there's no name or just $1
As long as I have viewers and gain followers I'm happy
>>337698016
Yeah you really need to do over 4h+ streams for it to be a worth stream and stream consistently every week
>>337698059
He's not that bad. He finishes everything on the hardest difficulty.
>>337691068
Nope and I'm not some faggot who watches people play games vs actually playing games.
>>337691876
>no but video game streams are synanonmous to watching someone watch a movie.
You say this as if Mystery Science Theatre 3000 isn't a thing.
>>337691068
I don't donate or subscribe to anybody, but I watch a lot of streams because it's free, unadulterated looks at gameplay, which was incredibly rare before Twitch came around. No more bullshots or pre-rendered trailers to base a purchasing decision off. Twitch is as cringeworthy as every but if you stick to smaller channels it's tolerable, plus any revenue that doesn't go to some faggot SJW's blog is fine by me.
>>337691068
You know what else is weird? You can literally feed your chosen twitch streamer.
http://treatstream.com/
>>337697726
I do the same thing, anon, mostly older shit from my backlog. I have some IRL friends who will chat every now and then, along with a random or two. I mostly do it because it reminds me of my college years when I'd play games while shooting the shit with my roommates or friends. /v/ hates Twitch because most of them are NEET faggots who never had that and don't understand the appeal of being social and playing games.
>>337695675
Pretty much this.
>>337691068
I listen to\watch streamers at my work. I'm videogame artist and i like to listen to something on the background. Sometimes i like to listen to audiobooks of some history podcasts like Dan Carlin. I'm also subscribed to Vinesauce and i don't regret it.
Oh yeah i'm also 27 and you can fuck off with you opinion.
>>337698380
I think I can do 4.
I've never tried to budget time like money before.
Whats your stream?
>>337691937
Fucking this what the flying fuck is wrong with these pathetic faggots
>>337698796
Nice, free food for Tits McGee's melanin enriched boyfriend.
>>337691068
> wants to stop gamers from making money
Yep, you're a hater and a fucking pussy.
I bet if you had a successfull twitch account you wouldn't be complaining about it you bitch ho.
>>337695987
Congratulations Wendy! You are now smarter than millions and millions of 'adults'.
>>337698380
To me you're doing something right so far. Don't mind the salty retards like OP and be a good streamer. Twitch has more than enough streamers whoring themselves out.
>>337691937
>hes never bought pizza for his irl friend when playing games
whats it like being a poorfag
People in this day and age are far, far too easily convinced to give away their money. It's absolutely stupid. I know a girl who regularly complains about not having money for food, but just last week she donated her entire paycheck to some band she likes.
And a bit at work I know has issues paying rent, and didn't have the money to pay for an expedited passport when he needed it. Yet he talks about buying expensive watches and the Oculus.
My parents taught me the value of being frugal I suppose. I get worried I'm spending too much if my bank account drops below 20k.
Real fuckin tired of this e-begging bullshit people do as well, with Gofundme and shit. I've seen a girl beg for money for college, some mom beg for money for her kids bike, and a girl beg for money for a car. It's fucking disgusting. Even if I was dying in a ditch, I'd never stoop that low
>>337695675
I agree. The community thing is annoying.
I talk to my viewers like how people talk to people, which is sometimes hard because I'm talking and they are typing.
>>337696998
>sellout as a gamer
tru gamers 4 lyfe bruh
The fact that OP brought this issue up doesn't mean that he cares about those teenagers that waste their money like this. It's still an intriguing topic for discussion however. Yet /v/ proves once again that it is too underage to grasp grander societal ramifications. Never change /v/.
>>337698923
Which is fine, people do what they enjoy the most. Some people prefer to play a game and leave it like that, others play a game and then watch someone else play it and others just enjoy watching someone play a game. All three are very different experiences but should all be acknowledged as enjoyable, there is no winner since it's all preference.
>>337699000
It's definitively hard to minmax your time like that, I find it hard to stream if I haven't exercised earlier that day, which really affects my performance.akaijii
>>337699092
Honestly, doing streaming as a job would be amazing, but I don't think I'd be whoring myself out as much, as long as I could make enough to pay for my living expenses I'd be happyand since I can live without earning money from twitch I'm hella happy just doing what I enjoy doing
I should probably set up some charity donation system to the stream, or would that be pretentious?
>>337691068
How the fuck is Twitch relevant here? You're complaining about the behaviour of some streamers, not the site itself.
>>337699453
Because people without simple minds know how it happened. Modern friendships are shitty and over text messages and no one goes outside because Dominos and Netflix.
It a business of fake friendship and fiving kids a sense of belonging.
>>337699904
I love how much /v/ suffers from juvenoia. It's nothing but "THE CHILDREN ARE WRONG WHAT HAPPENED TO THE GENERATION MUH MILLENIALS THEY ARE BAD AND EVERYTHING IS WRONG THE WORLD IS ENDING".
>>337699645
>I find it hard to stream if I haven't exercised earlier that day
Are you me? I have to do some lifting beforehand or I don't have the energy.
I'll check you out.
>>337697726
Post twitch channel name so we can bump you up familia :^)
>>337698965
What do you feel like you get in return, or do you even care about that?
>>337700041
>/v/ is one person EleGiggle
>>337697726
You are the cancer that must be purged. You are the vulture that prey on corpses.
>I'M HAVING SO MUCH FUN GUISE
Justify it however you want but it doesn't change the fact that you are a part of this system. A cog in the machine.
>>337691937
No i dont hand him a ten dollar bill. Instead i hand him a packed bong with weed in it that i paid for. Because im not kike jew like you who invites his friends over to stAre at a wall because of "lol why would i spend money on you your just siting there not doing anything" no wonder your friends stopped calling you, you heeb
>>337691597
Am I a bad person for thinking the other way? If a guy is getting loads of donations then my donation won't matter/the guy doesn't need my money to survive so i'm less inclined to donate. If I were to ever donate it would be to relatively unknown guys, I don't think I would donate to a big streamer even if I liked one of them.
Obviously most people don't think this way but I wonder why.
I must admit that i've never got much out of let's play but clearly there are a lot of people who do and who are willing to spend (probably) their own hard earned money on that. Then again I will watch pro tournaments (not really pro player individual streams though) and speed runners, and I know there are people who think both of those are complete madness so who am I to judge.
>>337700260
edgy
>>337700041
I was more leading to technology being the problem. Technology is an art of convenience that leads to less social interaction.
>>337691068
Sheeple son sheeple
>>337700260
>eradicate vultures
>plague and diseases spread
WOW DUDE HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW?
>>337700069
Thanks dude, really appreciate it!
>>337700260
Sorry you feel this way, why does my enjoyment and happiness make you so upset?
>>337700282
I think like you. Once I realized a streamer I was subbed to was making 30 grand a month I unsubbed.
>>337691068
>How did we manage to come to this point?
autism
If you look at the chat on any big channel you'll see all the same people subscribed to them all it's really fucking sad
>>337700260
>>337700260
>Justify it however you want but it doesn't change the fact that you are a part of this system. A cog in the machine.
No, what changes that is adblock.
You can watch streams every hour of every day without ever paying anyone so much as a cent, and entirely without pressing the donation or subscription buttons, if you like - and that's what 90%+ of twitch viewers do.
They don't sub, they don't donate, they don't see your ads, they just spam Gray Face (no space) in the chat
>>337700690
People can perfectly hate twitch or the streamers. After all you're in fucking /v/.
Twitch is just an elaborately disguised fetish site dedicated to femdom and finedom.
Pretty ingenious if you think about it.
>>337692652
someone screencap this shit for a cringe thread
>>337700260
I wonder what system you're a part of. I'm guessing none besides the solar system which you're free to leave.
>>337693682
option 1: you are straight up autistic
option 2: you are depressed as fuck and going to kill yourself so you may as well give it to other people
which is it m8
>>337698796
Why did you have to post this anon?
Just when I thought it couldn't get any worse.
>Play D&D on Twitch
>Sometimes people give me and the channels I appear on money for being entertaining.
>There's no camwhoring involved, we're fucking playing a roleplaying game while people watch.
I don't see how it can be a "scam", no one's forcing anyone to pay money. We'd be doing exactly the same thing if no one donated, but they choose to because it's fun for them. Why? Fuck if I know, I don't have any money so I don't know what it's like to have disposable income like that.
>>337698965
You may be 27 but you still have the mentality of a 14 year old tbqh.
>>337693682
I don't agree with all the hate you're getting I understand your logic. I think you're crazy but I understand your logic.
>>337700991
>After all you're in fucking /v/.
Yeah okay, that makes sense actually
>>337698965
>tfw game programmers watch my stream
>tfw makers of chronicles runescape watch my stream where I play the game as they program the game
Feels pretty fantastic honestly
>>337701462
>I don't see how it can be a "scam", no one's forcing anyone to pay money
This is the most retarded sentence in the thread. "Pyramid schemes aren't scams, nobody's forcing you to take part in them"
>>337700271
DUDE WEED LMAO #420blazeitfagget
You getting the new COD bruh? ;^)
>>337691068
>mfw I'm streaming right this minute and there's nothing OP can do about it
>>337701784
A pyramid scheme is a scam because the money is not given by the person being ripped off for no reason, they're giving money because they think it's an investment. They are promised something in return, usually profit.
I'm sorry, do Twitch streamers have a banner saying "If you donate $5 to me, you'll get $20 back!"? There's no promise of anything in return, which is why it's a DONATION, and not an INVESTMENT or a PURCHASE.
Are you seriously arguing this, or are you just trolling?
>>337701784
>Twitch is a pyramid scheme
???????????????????????????
I try to stream Pokemon ROMs but no one will watch or talk in chat :(
>>337701784
>Twitch streams are now pyramid schemes
Holy shit, I know you're an edgy NEET but seriously get out more.
>>337699097
Yes I'm sure that Chad is glad someone's there to take care of his gf while he's off to work.
What's it like being a cuck?
>>337696916
35 here. Remember when we were too young to be considered GenX so they called us Gen Y? Then later, before the term millenial came around, we were considered Gen X for a little while?
Now we get lumped in with millenials, which is weird to me, because I'm old enough to be most millenial's dad.
It's ok tho, I can reclaim my Gen X status any time just by talking about how pure music was in the 90's, how great grunge rock was, and how the internet used to be a fantastical wild west show before corporate interests ruined it.
>>337701948
>TFW I stream tonight, and I'm writing stuff for my talk-show that streams on Tuesdays.
Yeah, it's fucking weird, but people actually tune in and watch live to listen to me talk about roleplaying games with my guests every week. It's like a podcast, only it's live. Go figure, I certainly didn't expect it.
>>337699131
Same here. Kudos to you mate. Being 100% genuine.
>>337702194
Also streaming tonight.
Lucky you for knowing what game to play.
>>337702194
Nice man, sounds fun. If you actually do it for enjoyment I'm sure people can tell and it's fun to watch.
>>337691980
Maybe a different insight, or just something to watch. There's more than one way to enjoy things. I usually watch lets plays of games I've played to see what the player thinks of it and what he does differently.
I also watch lets plays of games I don't own and probably don't want to buy, or games I played back when I was a kid that I simply can't get anymore without fucking around with emulators.
>>337691068
No one is putting a gun to their head and forcing them to donate. I'd probably never donate to a lets player. If you do, and complain about it afterwards you should be removed from the genepool, especially if the streamer is a woman playing a popular game poorly.
>>337702473
>Lucky you for knowing what game to play.
I don't really stream any games. I just play D&D with friends. I've tried doing other things, like video games or solo drawing streams and I realized that I'm horribly awkward and can't just talk to myself for hours on end (which is what you need to do for people to stick around when they come to check your channel out), so I don't do too many of those.
>>337691068
>By putting on a fake personality and feigning intimacy
literally everything
>paying for a friend simulator
welp our youth is doomed.
>>337700690
You dodged the anon asking for your channel name. I don't think you're the innocent streamer that you claim to be.
>>337703369
I must've missed it, I hid it in this post
>>337699645
>>337701914
Yea
How can i get people to stick around on my stream?
>>337703663
how big are your tits?
So is this the e-celeb/streamers thread?
Alright! Who you guys follow usually?
>>337703706
there are many popular male streamers
>>337701948
Post twitch name so we can get you that new headset you were looking to buy anon :^)
Don't pussy out on us now.
>>337703663
Viewers are fickle, if they don't like what they're watching they'll move on, so it goes for every stream. Just work on improving yourself to be more vocal and sociable and you'll get there
>>337703728
Too many to post
>>337702039
I'll join your chat senpai :3
>>337691068
>youngsters sitting at home playing video games
The Top10 of popular twitch streaming are adult people that are popular BEFORE OF TWITCH EXISTENCE but now play videogames.
Real youngsters never get more of five viewers in his streaming
>>337696378
>implying the government has a right to my body or longevity
I'll kill myself if I want you cunt
>>337703663
Honestly if you want to get big enough to make a living off of it you'll have to go full sellout mode and stream the extremely popular flavor of the week stuff. You can build up a following playing older or more obscure games but it's rare and will take much longer. You'll need to facecam most likely, and make sure you video and audio are top notch. That's probably the biggest deterrent, I'll watch a smaller streamer before some giant cuckold but not if he's running something on his toaster and it sounds like he's in a cave when he speaks.
>>337696998
Yeah, I'm sure you could just go a be a successful streamer
>>337691068
There's nothing wrong giving money to stranges that play videogames and always talk with weird nasal voice.
>>337702194
Mind if I tune in sometime?
>>337702039
Make sure you never have 0 viewers and you'll be fine. Starting out is hard so I recommend you to use your laptop/cellphone with your stream on just to have that one viewer.
The rest will come naturally and you need to learn to talk without talking to someone
>>337704175
So you mean just commentate everything as if I had viewers, if I don't have any? I guess then when people join they are more likely to stick.
>>337703663
It really depends what you stream.
I know a lot of people who just stream Hearthstone because it lets them technically have a video game up, but they just sit around and talk with their people in chat. Being engaging and entertaining is key, but it's hard to stand out in a lot of videogames because there's so many people streaming that standing out will be impossible.
You want people to stick around? Be funny, witty, fun to listen to, or talk to your chat. Involve them in some way, give them something to do. I wouldn't suggest getting into streaming to TRY and get popular, rather, get into it because you love the game(s) you play and want to entertain, and people will eventually come.
Promotion is key though.
>>337704339
Exactly! People don't want to watch some silent guy play a game, talking constantly is hard, but there's a constant chance someone will see your stream and enjoy what they're watching
>>337704339
>So you mean just commentate everything as if I had viewers, if I don't have any?
Yes, this is actually a pretty big thing. Even when you have no one in chat, you need to ACT like you do. It's weird and awkward, but when people join to see what's going on, if they see you just silently staring at the screen, they'll get bored and leave.
And don't say "Hi <person>" as soon as you see their name pop up in the viewer list. Calling them out when they join won't get them to stick around and talk.
Streaming is about putting on a show. You have to be willing and able to entertain people for them to give you their time.
>>337704405
I like playing Pokemon ROMs and Nuzlocke's, but that may be overdone.
I'm Diamond in League and Gladiator in WoW, so I guess both of those are viable but oh god that would get tedious. And WoW is ded.
>>337703663
This thread wasn't meant for degenerate streamers to discuss their dubious strategies amongst each other.
>>337691068
Its as much as a scam as giving money to the guy playing guitar on the street. Just because you don't like it does not make it a scam.
But shit like this is scamming >>337691473
>>337691068
donations made sense back when pro gamers had to pay for their trips to tournaments, because you were actually supporting the scene
everything today is just degenerate behaviour
>>337698965
He is pure and untouchable
>No Face cam
>ignores shilling
>outright refuses marketing devs
>bans memeposters
>shows new fanart every night like a bro
>willing to listen/comfort a bro
>Asks you not subscribe, doesn't need it
>asks you use adblock on his show
>listens to his people but doesn't pander
>Loves playing games
>Very Self-aware about quality
>sometimes will sing/play guitar
>Kazoo and slide whistle
>those glorious Sunday Shows, every Sunday
With Streamers like him, I don't miss TV
I only watch this group, so i NEVER see the shit people post
>>337704605
>I like playing Pokemon ROMs and Nuzlocke's, but that may be overdone.
Most likely, but check how many viewers are watching those games at peak times among all channels.
>I'm Diamond in League and Gladiator in WoW
League is the most saturated game on the planet, so getting anywhere doing that is literally impossible. WoW is probably long since dead so I doubt anyone would watch it, though I know a lot of popular streamers mix it in.
Again, I wouldn't really suggest video games at all. I stream live D&D, and I'm 10x as successful as if I were to ever try streaming video games, just because the market is not completely saturated yet.
I had to stop doing on-call video game testing gigs for more regular work, and I miss that level of interaction with people and video games. It's nice that I work regularly now and don't have to worry so much about money, but now life feels pretty empty without people to share my hobby with. Being a streamer gives me that back and on a more personal level. Since I don't have to worry about money, I don't have to take off my pants whenever someone follows, or kill time promoting my channel, etc.
>>337691068
Who gives a shit? Seriously. If some faggots find it more enjoyable to sit around and watch some jerk off play video games while pretending they're friends then let them. Nobody gets hurt.
>>337704118
While I'd love that, I really, really don't feel comfortable sharing my channel/youtube with /v/. All it takes is one asshole.
Just to give some input, I only watch a single LPer and some playthroughs of games difficult or impossible to emulate.
The LPer is chill, fun to watch without being cringy and plays mostly non-mainstream games. He doesn't accept donations, either, just Twitch subscriptions. He makes some great background noise for grinding or even just watching when I'm too tired to play my own vidya.
I have never subscribed to his Twitch, but I'm considering it just because I really enjoy his shit. He even tries to discourage his viewers from doing so, assuring them that they won't get shit for it. But I mean, I've spent way more on more worthless shit anyway.
it's not just the people forking over the dosh that are in denial about it. i have a friend that is into this streaming bullshit and she's in total denial that she is a camwhore, even though it's exactly the same. lonely men are paying her for special attention and so she will pretend to be their friend and add them to her discord chat. i don't really care, yeah it's disgusting and embarrassing but as long as men are easily manipulated into doing this shit it's not stopping.
>>337697130
praise kek
>>337691068
It's not a scam. No one holds a gun to their head and forces them to donate. People just like giving tips for entertainment.
You faggots need to stop getting mad just because people found an easy way to get cash.
>20 years old
>government job
>53k a year
>no education
>wish i was a streamer every day of my life
>will never become popular enough to out-wage my current job.
what do, sad as fuck
>>337691876
>watch people play sports on TV
>watch people play poker on TV
>watch people cook on TV
>watch people eat on TV
>watch people talk on TV
>watch people drive on TV
>watch people dance on TV
>watch people do mundane things constantly as entertainment
>but you can't watch people play games
I was thinking about making a video game youtube channel. Not for money but just because I want to talk about video games. Not sure if I should do that or just make some blog in wordpress ir something. I just want people to see what I have to say!
>>337705164
But tipping is also shit.
>>337703663
Talk to them.
>>337704805
So you fell for the twitch streamer specifically tailored to cater to hipsters like yourself. Are you proud or something?
>>337704938
I'm not an asshole ;_;
>>337704946
Legitimate question. Do you have any friends anon?
>>337705663
