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Is he right /v/?

Should games be beatable by the mentally handicapped?
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>>337687676
But he's already playing WoW OP
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It's impossible to please everyone. If this guy is complaining about not being able to play Vanilla due to social issues, he should stick with the modern game instead.
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>>337687676
He is. A game for social outcasts shouldn't require you to deal with lazy assholes that only want players in the absolute top gear available.

I was a vanilla player, and a vast majority of the people on my server were too undergeared to raid. Most of us just roamed the world looking for content and hoping for epic drops.
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>>337687676
>I shouldn't be forced to communicate with people to play this massively multiplayer online game!!
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>>337687676
So he's saying modern wow is literally for retards?
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>>337687989
>MMOs shouldn't require you to talk to people
>defending pandering to literal retards
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>>337688176
pretty much
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>>337687676
No, he is wrong.
If he dislikes the game, or it flares up his mental illnesses, he should consider playing a different game.
Since he likes retail wow, he should stick to playing retail wow.
Trying to argue that Vanilla wow needs to be accessible for people with social anxiety is... I don't even know how to word it. Its wrong.
I have social anxiety. However, I strive to make sure that my social anxiety is not a problem, not for my peers or for myself.
The opinion that 'everyone else must step lightly around me because x" is just so fucking wrong. No matter if you have mental illnesses or not, you will know how annoying it is when people try to change your shit for them to feel like they can fit in, when in all actuality, it befalls the individual to change their shit so they can fit, and if they cannot, THEY CANNOT FIT.

Even an actual, psychiatrically analyzed autist like me knows this. Come the fuck on.
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>>337687676
I strongly dislike socializing with people in online games too.
I like MMOs, but I just avoid them because of this. It's whatever, there are plenty of other games to play.
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>let's se, I have hard time socialising but I like playing video games, what genre should I pick among all these focused on single player experience?

>I KNOW, MMORPG GAMES ARE BEST FOR ME
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>>337687676
Games shouldn't even be beatable by the mentally proficient. They should require thought and effort to beat
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>>337687676
I can see he is mentally challenged because literally the only thing people wanted was the ability/option to play Vanilla fi they didn't wanna play WoW as it is right now. THEY EVEN OFFERED TO FUCKING PAY TO PLAY VANILLA FUCK YOU RETARD
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>>337687873
first post best post
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>>337687676
They already are
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>>337687676
> Played fury Warrior in BC
> Wasn't top DPS in 5 mans

Oh right, he's retarded
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>have a mental illness
>instead of dealing with the issue, waste hours a day in fictional world's

Yeah, nothing can go wrong here.
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>>337690234
Mental illnesses aren't like regular illnesses. There is no cure for retardation. You're stuck that way for the rest of your life, anon, I'm sorry.
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>>337690234
Go outside, laughed at or taunted by "normal" people, choose to become a hermit and feel empowered by a fantasy world.

Videogames are modern day alcohol.
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>too mentally retarded to socialize
>play mmo

pick one
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>>337687676
>has mental/social issues
>plays a Blood Elf Hunter

Checks out.
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>>337687676
Yes and no.

It should take absolutely 0 effort to make an easy mode. An easy mode hurts no one at all. The only exceptions are games where the difficulty is the entire point, a la Souls games or Ninja Gaiden.

Should content be locked away from Easy mode? Sure. Otherwise there's no reason to play anything but easy mode for completion sake. But the idea that it's "super impossible to balance" between Easy and Hard modes is nothing but bullshit spewed by lazy devs and sycophant faggots.

As for socializing, WoW is perfectly capable of having LFD and LFR continue to exist. Just as long as using the Group Finder tool gives you more rewards and incites you to get out there and meet people over auto-queueing and silently burning a dungeon asocially, I literally do not see an issue with LFD and LFR.

The problem with LFD and LFR are rewards and xrealm queueing. That's literally it. Fix those, and LFD/LFR are good.
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>>337687873
First post best post also underrated
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>>337690826
Isn't that a female undead though?
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>>337691532
female undead tend to be smart at least
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They already are though, Americans can play and beat modern games just fine.
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>>337690234
I don't think you really know what mental illnesses are.
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>>337687676
i'm an autist and this cuckold doesn't speak for me
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>>337691742
No, not really.
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>>337691742
>Le race/class combinations have anything to do with intelligence or personality meme
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>>337687676
>muh mental illness
>muh forced socializing

i fucking HATE tumblr, why the fuck did tumblr have to shit up a whole generation with this stupid garbage nonsense
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>>337691437
ayy that catgirl ends up being his female teacher.
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>>337691352
That'd actually be pretty good. Bosses completed in groups formed with the group finder drops the additional rewards that used to be part of the random finders, fucking Valor gated behind LFR and LFD, and those that use that get their tourist mode with others who don't give a shit and therefore won't need those upgrade items anyway.

I can't wait to hear LFD/R tards complain about Surumar not having good rewards because it's just a level 110 story zone
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>>337687873
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>>337687676
most games are
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>>337691532
>post this
>go back and look at picture
>notice it says exactly what race it is underneath

Oh...

It looked a bit like they had a hunched over posture like female undead do but I guess the scoliosis stance of blood elves looks similar in a tiny portrait.
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>>337692296
Suramar WILL have good rewards. It just won't be tier shit, and they can't fully max out their artifacts without actually raiding. There's still going to be plenty of shit to What the fuck am I saying, no one wants to go out in the world to do shit, the casuals just want to queue for shit while AFKing in their order hall and get everything with zero effort. Fuck them and fuck anyone else who won't do world quests. The loot will work exactly like current Mythic Dungeon loot, which can easily get you into Mythic raiding.
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>>337692030
>>337692037
it's true
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>>337692086
>why the fuck did tumblr have to shit up a whole generation with this stupid garbage nonsense

Anon, I'm sorry to say but it's the other way around. Tumbler didn't do anything, it was a blank slate site in the beginning. This generation fucked Tumbler up, there was no saving them, the children were the enemies of the future.
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>>337691437
>mfw I cross play all the time in online games
>mfw thirsty ass dudes always give me presents and shit
>I don't even have to ask, they just do

Makes me wish I was a girl IRL
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>>337687676
>Plays a game all about social interaction
>Complains about social interaction in the game
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>>337692893
I always play as a little boy in games. Most people ignore me... most, but ocassionally I get that one guy who helps me with a quest or something and then starts following me around and asking me questions and shit before eventually trading me a bunch of stuff, sending a friend request and signing off. I know to ignore them now, but I use to accept the request. These guys were always on when I logged in and as soon as I logged in, they'd be all over me, asking how my day was and shit. I'd block them and sign out for a week.

It always makes me feel like shit, but they are just so creepy.
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>>337687676
Why play multiplayer games when you hate talking with other people?!
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I've always liked the idea of a socializing game when I was a kid, because of shows like .hack, but when I actually got to start playing MMO I was severally disappointed. Either nobody talks at all, only talks to ask for party members on world chat, or is an autistic fucking ERPfag.

I just wanted some in game friends to explore the world with me.
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>>337693994
That's the way MMOs used to be. What was your first one?
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>>337687676
What if I like both? Sometimes you want to party and sometimes you want to kill mobs alone.
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>>337692893
>play a female character
>never talk
>I'm always the one handing out mana potions to raid members
>people think I'm a girl anyway

Don't they realize I'm just autistic?
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>>337691437
>bazer

Heh
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>>337694096
Well, my first one was technically runescape.
Other ones I tried once I got my own computer were Champions online and DC universe, pplus random other free to play shit. The Best MMo I've played is FF14, but the cost of it was getting too high for how little I was playing it after a while. After that I didn't really play anything until about a week ago when I downloaded Aion just to fuck around in. I'm thinking about going back to FF, but I'm not sure. there just doesn't seem to be any MMO that satisfy me the way I want.
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>>337694274
Maybe they are autistic and can't read the signs?
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>>337687676
>I don't want to have to socialize with other people

Maybe don't play an MMO then. There are hundreds of single-player RPGs out there, and many of them are better than WoW.
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>be autistic faggot
>decide to play game of a genre that requires social skills
Epic... simply epic...
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>>337687676
arent they already?
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>>337694232
You could kill mobs alone in Vanilla.
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>>337687676

if you're so socially retarded that you can't even talk to people online, how do you even function in life?
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>>337687676
Games should only be for one group of people not everyone. When it's for everyone it lacks in content for all (see current WoW).
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>>337694964
Friend of mine has pretty significant social issues, but online he's pretty much free of them.

Guess it's a difference between those kids who take things online seriously enough to end their lives and those who see it really has zero effect on your well-being to get called a faggot.
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>>337694534
>Other ones I tried once I got my own computer were Champions online
You missed it, anon. By a mile. By the time champions online came out, that whole idea of actually interacting with people as if you were in a virtual world instead of ERPing, staying silent or only teaming up had long since passed.

If you're really that into the idea though, you could try a MUD. They're basically MMOs without the graphics, but a more niche playerbase. Hellmoo is one of the better ones available. The playerbase is very much into 'living' in the world without necessarily being creepy RPfags, more just actually having adventures in raping orphans and zombies together and getting interactive with the world.
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>>337687676
On one hand I think that 'social' games are a cancer and especially MMORPGs are utter shit. On the other hand, there's no point in getting whiny about not being able to play these shitty games.
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>>337695521
>I think that 'social' games are a cancer
go ahead and explain why bud
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>>337694964
Dotting parents.
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>>337687989
>a vast majority of the people on my server were too undergeared to raid.

>not just too fucking lazy

Gosh golly gee whiz anon, then I guess you should take those majorities, create a "guild" and get to gearing up.

How did those 'lazy assholes' get that gear to begin with?

Why do you need epic drops if you're not doing anything that requires them?

Just go play Diablo 2 or something that gets you loot. Christ, it's like playing Uncharted and bitching that the platforming isn't as good as Mario 64
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>>337695629
1. Because they're shitty games with shitty gameplay which generally depends on putting a lot of time into them in order to milk the userbase for their subscription money and reward them for spending time at the game rather than developing skill.
2. Multiplayer video games are supposed to be competitive, they're not about playing buddy with fags like yourself. When playing a multiplayer game you're not supposed to be friends with people. You're supposed to beat them and make fun of them for being shit.
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>>337687676
He should go play EVE Online. It will have lots of fun with him! Solid game, one of the only actual "massively" multiplayer games left in existence.
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>>337696295
*I meant, "He will have lots of fun with it." Shit, that didn't come out quite right at all.
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>>337695773

Dotting parents you say?
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>>337696210
>Because they're shitty games with shitty gameplay
Purely subjective. WoW had great gameplay imo.

>which generally depends on putting a lot of time into them in order to milk the userbase for their subscription money and reward them for spending time at the game rather than developing skill
WoW at the high end required a lot of skill. Any video game with an objective is just one giant colorful artificial time game.

>You do both in WoW. Make friends and compete.
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>>337687676
generally he's wrong, but because WoW is an institution he is right in this case, it should be accomodating
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>>337691437
>not doing it anyways
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>>337687989
>instead of going into dungeons and get ez gear you were "roaming the world"
what the fuck
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>>337687676
blood elf players literally mentaly ill
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>>337691437
sauce on webm?
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>>337687873
savage
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>>337697110
WoW has shitty gameplay and it's as competitive as professional pokemon cards. Literally CWC tier.
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>>337699104
>he's never gotten past 2k in arenas
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>>337699193
>he has actually played WoW at some point in his life
When Trump wins the elections your kind is the first who's going to be rounded up and sent to the camps.
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>>337698392
Netoge no Yome wa Onnanoko ja Nai to Omotta? Ep 1.
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this right there is what killed mmo's

the "but I still have to be able to beat EVERYTHING on my own" argument

and boom everyone just played alone like an autist
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>>337687676
>Hunter
>Literally retarded
well, that confirms all my suspicions
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>>337687676
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>>337698392
You don't want to watch this.
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>>337699907
I do now.
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>>337691352
>An easy mode hurts no one at all

This is panning out to be false in WoW. Many people are tired of raiding specifically because they raided on the easy mode (LFR) and then say "Well I finished all the raid content in the game. Why would I go to a higher mode just for a few more mechanics?"

This is why we only need two modes.
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>>337701489
>This is why we only need two modes
One mode. Questing serves as the easy mode, Dungeons serve as the medium difficult, raids are the hard difficulty. Everyone has content.
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>>337701775
Cant make raids that focus on the 1% anymore my man. That won't sell. The general population (but not complete morons or people like in OP) have to be able to do that primary content, but they need to be challenged. We don't need to take raiding away from many people, because most people CAN do normal mode raiding. They just have less reason to right now.
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>>337699907
I don't understand this image, what is with the expression in the last panel?
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>>337702416
"Gah fuck I might be drinking piss"
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>>337687676

It was the opposite for me, I had terrible social anxiety and paranoia during my high school years and I used Everquest 2 to supplement my social needs, I could actually socialize and talk to people in a game without as much issue.
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>>337702182
>Cant make raids that focus on the 1% anymore my man. That won't sell.
see pic

>The general population (but not complete morons or people like in OP) have to be able to do that primary content, but they need to be challenged
Questing and dungeons are primary content too, make them challenging again.

>We don't need to take raiding away from many people, because most people CAN do normal mode raiding. They just have less reason to right now.
Many people can complete raids like BWL or SSC if they're forced to in order to see the content.
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It sounds like he's just an anti social gamer and struggled finding people to play the game with. Vanilla wow was a fucking pain in the ass to solo through but if that's how people want to play then they should be able to.

I do think those nostalgic early WoW people that shit on the up to date version have a really narrow minded elitist opinions. You find people like that in every fanbase. They think its their creation
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>>337702416
Its insinuating that he picked up her piss bottle and started to drink from it. Which is stupid comedy in the first place because she obviously would have told him when she saw him pouring a glass from her fucking piss bottle. Low tier humor.
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>>337692893


>Makes me wish I was a girl IRL

>>>/wsg/998756
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>>337702656
WoW did not die because of its accessibility. Those stories you heard about "Oh man I remember seeing that guy in Naxx 40 gear and thinking how wondrous and powerful he is and how ill never get that stuff." VERY few people enjoyed that. Very few people were happy about not having general access to all the raiding content. Plenty of factors in and out of the game contributed to WoW's decline and the genre as a whole.
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>>337702768
>she obviously would have told him when she saw him pouring a glass from her fucking piss bottle
Except for the part where she's not exactly right in the head, so you're wrong there.
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>>337703012
Shes a neet not a literal retard.
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>>337703176
And she's dangerously attached to the MC to the point where she has yandere traits, so it's absolutely not out of question to assume that she gets something out of making him drink her urine.
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>>337687676
Our Vanila-Tbc semi hc raid guild had full blown assburger, he was good dps and know what to do had little anger problems but still core member until he quit wow to get he's real life act together. If person whit semi bad Asperger can ''beat the game'' it not that hard.
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>>337702969
>WoW did not die because of its accessibility
It's not dying due to accessibility, it's always been extremely accessible. It's dying because an extremely small portion of the game is still stimulating and challenging anymore. Leveling is mindless and easy, dungeons are mindless and easy, 3/4 raid difficulties are mindless and easy.

>Those stories you heard about "Oh man I remember seeing that guy in Naxx 40 gear and thinking how wondrous and powerful he is and how ill never get that stuff." VERY few people enjoyed that.
nigga it's not stories I heard, I played Vanilla and that's how it was for the vast majority of people. You saw someone showing off accolades earned by being a top tier player and your innate human narcissism made you want to be that guy too. You wanted to get attention and recognition from shitters in the same exact manner that you were giving it to that guy. The game was worth beating because it was difficult, when you make everyone able to beat it, it's no longer exclusive and no longer worth striving for.

>Plenty of factors in and out of the game contributed to WoW's decline and the genre as a whole.
Nah, the genre declined because the quality of the gameplay declined. You're one of those "le MMOs aren't good anymore because of le social media" memers aren't you?
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>>337699591
I have a better, more succinct image for you
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>>337703598
Vanila came down one thing, who had biggest virtual penis, me and my brother farmed knight-captain boomking and still our virtual penis was way smaller the that one arms tauren warrior who had sulfur hand of ragnaros. That one fucking warrior that every weekend came charging to Stable in AB can rekt our asses
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>>337702656
And PC gaming, social gaming and any form of non single playing in computer is WAY up from 2010. MMO should be more popular then ever but still they are on slow decline.
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>tfw just want a good MMO that isn't literally designed for literal retards
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>>337705845
FFXIV
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>>337706424
>FFXIV
>not designed for literal retards
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>>337703437
Asperger's are also called little professors because they get enthralled with very specific topics and research them intensely. One of my friends from wow has asperger's and he was a multi-time rank 1 gladiator. As long as you were talking about WoW he seemed somewhat normal, but anything else he would pretty much shutdown except for once a week or so he would go on a 3 hour tirade about magic the gathering.
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>>337687676
Why would you play a MMO if you don't want to socialize with others?
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>>337691437
>That esc at the end

Deep.
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>>337706424
>FFXIV
>even more of a 'sit in town waiting for queue' simulator than WoW
>Most Handicap Accessible MMO 2k14
>2.5 sec GCD
Anon.
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>>337706424
>WoW clone
Fuck off.
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>>337707224
mental retardation
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>waited ten years for a successor to Ragnarok
>Tree of Savior is shit
Pretty glad I never really got hype for it or this could have been close to a Spore repeat.
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>can't even talk to a group of WoW dorks
Now THAT'S autism.
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>>337706862
Yea but there is still social problems in Asperger, but that still didn't stop him to join guild and coming TS and play MMO!

Point is that if people whit real social affecting syndrome still can play MMO how it should be played, there is noting wrong whit game.
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>>337706424
>FFXIV
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>>337690635
>You're stuck that way for the rest of your life, anon, I'm sorry.
You can control mental illnesses with medication and therapy though, you aren't stuck that way at all

I've got the assburgers and my life is completely normal
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>>337687676
Of course not. The mentally handicapped don't deserve to live, let alone partake in cultural creations.
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I am sober from online gaming and an MMO addiction now for 2 months. Life is a lot better now. I suggest trying it out.
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>>337710576
I also quit smoking weed too. If you have ever had
a thought that you should quit either I suggest quitting both. Life is much better without the addicting games/lifestyle, and there is plenty of other vidya to play that wont 'ruin' your life.
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>>337710576
frick off normie
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>>337709982
You post on /v/ though.
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>>337710786
I still have a boyfriend, friends, a job, and my own apartment though
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>>337710769
Lold. Id say im far from that, but maybe im not. Just throwing in my 2 cents. Mental illness or not mental illness there are better things to do than join <CIRCLE JERK> one last time.
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>>337710965
damn anon quit bragging
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the community can also be a problem
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>>337691437
>count meow-t

10/10
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>>337712180
at first I read that as Meow-ty (Like twenty?)
Now I get the joke lol
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>>337711196
That is some vintage memes.
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>>337711328
this guy sounds really fun to be around
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>>337711328
>One of the players asked if it was my head that was amputated instead of my arm
Get that ass wrecked.
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