Why is this game so fucking good?
Good roleplaying.
Jesus, it came out 6 years ago. Why do you autists make constant threads about it? It's not that great.
it isn't
you must have brain damage
i'm sorry
>>337683128
>spurs
>they jingle
>they jangle
its shit
>>337683248
It's the only thing obsidian lovers have left to cling to.
but its not
It's alright. Story is shit and bugs are still present.
>>337683128
CAUSE I'VE GOT SPURS
it has a long scrub phase
guys does the DLC get better? I playing it through release order and honest hearts feels shit compared to dead money. do they get worse each dlc?
>>337683128
Because good times and revenge. although I have to say this game manages to be good despite Bethesda not because of them
>>337683854
Honest hearts and lonesome road are garbage.
Dead money and OWB are the better two
>>337683854
Honest Hearts was the most rushed DLC which might go some way toward explaining it. They're all very different though so it depends on your personal taste.
>>337683854
Old World Blues > Lonesome road > Dead Money > Honest Hearts
Stick with them, or at the very least play Old World Blues. It's probably my favourite DLC/expansion ever.
>>337683248
>it came out 6 years ago
Yes, and?
I enjoyed 3 more I'd say. Fight me.
>>337684269
Fallout 3 is garbage. It's one of the worst RPGs ever written, and the gameplay is inferior to New Vegas. There is literally no good reason to prefer it.
Its okay. Shooting is crap, writing is good, quests vary from abysmal to great. Map is tiny and there are too many dumbass dungeons packed with enemies.
I just installed Tales of Two Worlds since I decided to replay New Vegas this year and it's pretty legit. I can't believe I never got it. I'd recommend it to anyone.
>tfw you're a mod shill
Fallout 4 is better than this simulator of emptiness.
>>337683854
>>337684016
>>337684164
>>337684220
Pretty much this. Honest Hearts is way smaller due to time constraints, but OWB and Lonesome Road are fucking baller.
>>337684805
>Fallout 4
>Better than anything
>>337683128
>cowboy/post-apocalyptic theme
>real RPG mechanics instead of open world shooter with leveling system
>plenty of dialogue choices with every character
>different dialogue choices actually have different results
>no hollywood good guys
>different factions that all feel differently about you depending on your actions instead of red/blue slider
>actually acknowledges Fallout 1 and 2
Take your pick OP.
On the other hand the combat sucks, it's ugly as shit and it's filled with bugs. It would likely be one of the best games ever (if not the single best games of all time) if Bethesda let them use a real game engine and gave them more than 1 year to make it.
>>337684865
It's better than NV and your mom.
>>337684805
I'd rather have emptiness than hollow radiant quests
>>337684908
>>337684970
So you prefer doing nothing instead of doing something.
>>337685035
I prefer quality over quantity
>>337685108
There was no quality from the legion's pov.
>>337685108
Quality of nothingness is an interesting subject, cowboy. Go milk your NCR fuccbois on the brokeback mountain, obsidiodrone.
>>337685035
what do you mean with doing nothing? new vegas has a huge amount of sidequests and unmarked quests and you need a lot of time to discover them. you also can easily replay new vegas a couple of times because of all the choices you have to make in about every single quest. fallout 4 has nothing like that
>Vegas is three buildings and 2 hookers
>final mission is invariably a Call of Duty-style dam assualt
>>337685375
Keep lying to yourself.
>>337685170
>>337685220
how autistic can one single person be?
The fallout games are all unique to themselves. Only a fool would try to debate them to establish a ''best'' fallout.
>>337685559
>single person
The legion wasn't overly well written.
>>337685170
Because the legion got shafted by the schedule given to Obsidian by bethesda. It's well documented that they had planned to add areas in legion territory.
>>337685382
>final mission is invariably a Call of Duty-style dam assualt
True, but it's also a reflection of your actions throughout the game, with the different factions helping or hindering you.
>>337684601
>Shooting is crap
Goddamn fucking game engine is terrible for this. The game has so many nice looking firearms and they only looks good, nothing more.
>>337685590
I know rite, why debate when Fallout 2 is clearly the best
What kind of builds are y'all running through? I'm doing a 3 strength smarty-smarts build. Pretty much stuck with laser rifles and plasma but they got some good unique ones that'll get me through.
>>337685728
They've got good impact to the actual firing, especially the lever actions, but the impact on enemies is fucking terrible
>>337685795
Underrail is better than 2 and 1.
>>337685890
I always max smarts for the skill points and usually throw in some points to luck.
Currently doing an energy weapons, science, medicine character who supports house.
>>337686027
No shit huh? So am I my man.
>>337685890
wow is that image real wtf
>>337685692
I know but it doesn't change what's in the game itself.
The legion is absolutely barren with almost nothing to do and the fact you piss off the NCR means you have even less to do.
Was pretty disappointed nothing was added with the dlcs but that is asking for a lot.
>>337685890
Im doing a repair and science build' I just spend time crafting shit and using it when it comes to combat.
>>337683248
Because it was the last great AAA crpg, it marks the end of an era.
>>337685460
i have an example for you:
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Beyond_the_Beef
beyond the beef is a long, complicated quest with like 10 ways to end it. it even makes you question your morals and how far you would go to achieve your goals. there is not a single quest like this in fallout 4.
wanna see more?
>>337683248
This. I mean it's pretty good, but there are plenty of better games out there.
>>337685963
Hey, Underrail dev, will you ever fuck off from these threads?
>>337684805
bad bait son
>>337686318
I gotsa get my moneys worth.
>>337686134
pissing off other factions is part of the game at one point of the story. it doesnt matter who you choose, the other groups are going to hate you in the end. but this isnt even a bad thing, it makes the game fun to replay for about 5 times, always seeing the story from another point of view.
also, my legion-character had about 150 hours of gameplay. my ncr-character only had 80 until it got boring.
>>337686310
Also dealing with the Chef is the funniest thing I've ever done in a video game
>>337686349
that guy is actually right. a map full of stuff to explore means nothing if there's nothing to find but super mutants, raiders and repeating loot. thats emptiness in its core.
>>337686804
i personally really love the option to present them a companion to eat. mortimer even has a unique dialoque for every single companion. for example, he comments on the slight taste of whiskey when you choose cass, or how smooth boone's meat may be.
>>337687082
>tfw you finally learn what happened to Boone's wife
Because it's not the newest installment of a franchise anymore so even the most contrarian snowflakes are starting to admit they enjoy it.
>>337683128
>try this game
>shoot something
>clearly within the crosshairs
>still miss part of the time
>>337687649
Literally how it works in real life.
>>337687649
Only bad part about these games. You can user laser rifle to see how ''aiming'' truly works. It sometimes literally locks on to the target or alters it's course.
>>337687797
>It sometimes literally locks on to the target or alters it's course
Can be fixed by disabling autoaim
>>337687649
>low perception
>>337683527
I mean if you don't count Alpha Protocol, Stick of Truth, Pillars, KotOR 2 then yeah, maybe:^)
>>337687932
Has nothing to do with perception.
Actualyl perception has to be the second most worthless stat in the game after charisma. It's only good for checks and perk requirements, the increased range at which enemies are shown on the compass is pretty useless.
>do a fresh install of NV and TTW because last time I did it was an unstable mess
>make sure it works
>add in my chosen mods
>start new game
>missing music, voice and some textures and meshes
>mfw
Time to try again and not fuck it up this time.
>>337687649
Use this.
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/34723/?tab=1&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Fnewvegas%2Fajax%2Fmoddescription%2F%3Fid%3D34723%26preview%3D&pUp=1
>>337685963
>>337686318
>>337686375
>tfw we will never go back to the constant underrail threads we had at launch
they were comfyI still never beat that game
>>337687179
>>337685890
strength/guns cowboy named Courier Samson. what is most spaghetti western faction? thinking NCR or House
>>337683128
Feel like the moral ambiguity of the story lines made it real interesting, while the MC was enough of a blank slate to be melded into what ever you want.
> vs FO4
> Running around the wasteland yelling Ma SUUUUUNNNN
>>337683128
eh, the world felt less colorful than Fallout 3. Vegas was too grounded, even with the 'weird shit' turned on.
>>337688086
>RPG
>not maxing charisma
SUMMMEEEER!!
>>337686105
No you idiot. its from a Onion article
>>337688468
House
>>337688602
>not playing a 1 Charisma 1 Intelligence herp derp courier
>>337683128
Compare
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scqESZbRNkU
with
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr5olzm9jXg
There is your answer.
>>337688918
I want to finger her cleavage.
>>337688602
>arbitrary stats to max
>in a roleplaying game
You sure are dumb.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPArO-OI_3U
>>337689054
Oh you... stop it! *hihi*
;)
>>337688602
>RPG
>minmaxing of any kind
>>337688856
>>337689104
>>337689174
>playing an RPG with a character that doesn't know how to talk
You are the reason why Fallout 4 is a plain shooter.
Thanks, CoDkiddies.
>>337683854
I thought they were all terrible, but that's just me.
>>337685890
Blonde drug lord named Jack Wakoski, focusing on pistols and unarmed.
>>337684220
Dead Money > Lonesome Road
Lonesome Road is corridor shooting.
>>337683128
Fallout want good until 4.
>>337683128
loli mods
>>337684854
>Lonesome Road
>Baller
Lonesome Road is easily the worst one.
OWB > Dead Money > Honest Hearts > Lonesome Road
>>337689580
>talking
>arbitrary in every playthrough of an roleplaying game
First of all, CHA in NV doesn't affect anything except for CHa checks which are very few and far between, and many of them can be skipped with different checsk instead.
SEcond of all, roleplaying games by definition have to contain a wide variety of things that are entirely optional.
You are going from one extreme into another. I guess that if you were to make FAllout 4 it would end up as a visual novel.
So again, you sure are dumb.
>>337685890
I'm currently doing a plain old guns,repair, and sneak build but I'm using the realistic battle/dynamic combat mod, jsawyer mod, hard hardcore setting in project nevada and Increased Wasteland Spawns to make the game more survivalish and also hard as fuck. Explosives are also OP as fuck now pretty much always killing anything in their blast radius which makes lowly enemies like Viper gunslingers a real fucking hassle so they must be dealt with at a distance.
>>337683128
You have poor standards for video games?
It is an excellent Fallout game but a shitty video game.
>>337687179
i wasn't calm at all
>>337689580
Low int characters have access to special dialog options, as well as alternative courses of action for some quests. Hell, it even makes you talk like a moron.
>>337683128
What's a mod for more bandits and enemy spawns to make the game feel less empty
>>337683128
I GOT SPURS THAT JINGLE JINGLE JANGLE, AS I GO RIDING MERELY AONG. I GOT SPURS THAT JINGLE JINGLE JANGLE
>>337683128
>be me
>put all experience points into intelligence and and science
be to weak to combat anything stronger than a ghoul
>22 hours later
>still can't kill desert Scorpion
>>337691353
>still can't kill desert Scorpion
You mean the orange ones?
Because it's literally impossible to not be able to kill those no matter what.
>>337689580
This is definitely bait but fuck it I'll bite, Charisma has pretty much always been a dump stat in ALL of the fallout games and other CRPGs/D&D based RPGs. In the older fallout games CHA only gave skill points into speech and barter aswell as giving you more companions but the companion AI wasn't that great in the games so most would do without companions, The only other use would be to become a pornstar in Fallout 2. In the Newer ones except Fallout 4 CHA only made companions stronger and used for skills with maybe one or two skill checks in the game. In Fallout 4 CHA replaces speech in the game which sucks and even at 10 CHA you can still fail some speech checks since they are have a % of sucess according to your CHA instead of a specific stat requirement. You could also save during dialogue which overall makes a High CHA both an almost mandatory requirement for a speech oriented character and useless all at once.
Because it's great for casuals, because of the 3D and it can also work for old cRPG fans for it's RPG aspects.
It's like Rockstar games, both casual and non-casual players can enjoy them.
>>337683527
NV is the only Obsidian game I've played.
After playing NV, I can't even touch Fallout 3 anymore. Haven't played 4, nor do I want to, since Bethesda haven't released anything fun since Oblivion.
>>337685890
>3 strength
Have fun with your weapon penalties.
>>337684908
>your mom jokes
It's good to see your choice of video games has reflected your wit. Hang yourself, oxygen thief.
>>337691451
>be me
>make character
>go outside
>Talk to Easy Pete
>Kill Easy Pete
>Entire Town comes outside and starts shooting me
>respawn
>die
>respawn
>die
Quit Game
I was never good at New Vegas, 3 was Easier
>>337683128
Great Soundtrack
Immersion
Great Dialogue
A Story that involves around whoever you create and wherever you want to take the story to.
Gameplay is more or less okay, the gunplay sucks, but there are plenty of options make the most of Bethesda shitty Gamebryo salvaged engine, so even if the core of the engine is crap, there are plenty of RPG bells and Whistles to make it work.
In contrast FO4
The Soundtrack is actually okay.
No immersion, you honestly cannot give a fuck because the dialogue and story are truly dumb, and Boston is boring as all fuck.
Dialogue, enough was said already.
Story, press X to Shaun, you are super limited to a couple of bad choices.
Gameplay, actually less options than FO3 and Skyrim if that is to be believed leaving behind shitty gunplay which is shittier than ever.
>>337692029
>Kill Easy Pete
Why though?
>choice Confirmed Bachelor perk for more damage and just being friends with guys
>now my characters is a fag
Time to join the Legion. They are buttfuckers lorewise after all.
>>337691843
Hate to break it to you but Oblivion was shit too. Last good Elder Scrolls was Morrowind, and even that was bullshit compared to Daggerfall.
>>337692029
>outsider kills a resident
>other residents hear shots
>they come outside packing heat
>kill the outsider before he does anymore damage
Actions have consequences friendo.
>>337692320
I think you might want to have a conversation with Arcade about that
I only boot up FO4 for degenerate fetish mods. Please kill me
>>337692281
>talking to Easy Pee
>he ever shuts up
>think to myself Old man must have some heat packing
>shoot Easy Pete thinking he'll die instantly
>mfw Easy Pete doesn't die instantly
>Easy Pete retaliates with Entire Town of inbred ApocaHicks
>does half my health bar b4 dying
>mfw Easy Pete wasn't easy
>Bethesdawhy.jpeg
>Loot Easy Pete while being shot
>mfw he has nothing
>die
>respawn
>run away
>die
>>337693162
Natural selection in action.
>>337685795
You mean 1. Fallout 2 is the original meme game. Full of 90s memes before memes were a meme
>>337683128
Because Obsidian took Bethesda's shitty fucking engine and somehow saved Fallout with it.
That's it, that's all that has to be said.
>>337693162
>he ever shuts up
You literally started that conversation yourself.
If you don't want to listen to people then why the fuck do you talk to them?
>>337688602
>fallout
>maxing charisma
It literally does nothing. Just put skill points in to speech. You can still max it at 1 chr
>>337683128
A lot of the quests are complex, with different possible outcomes/resolutions and many different ways to achieve each outcome. Almost every character build you can come up with and any character concept you can roleplay in New Vegas is entirely viable from a gameplay standpoint.
>>337693534
>>337693338
>I keep telling yall im just bad at this game
>be me
>1st mission
>go kill retarded lizards
>go into first house
>Gamma all the way down for realism
I do this with all my games, old habits of mine, just like inverted mouse
>mfw I can't see anything
>get attacked by autistic hopping praying mantices
>mfw I'm about to die on the first mission
>run out of house in fear
>run change setting
>look down at autistic minimap
>follow yellow marker
>This seems further than usual
>mfw when I'm lost
>mfw sun goes down
>get attacked by scorpions
>die
>goddamit.gif
>Quit game for the second time
>Obshitdian
>Written by Chris "I can't write anything non-depressing" Avellone
>"Factions" make you literally do the same things 4 times
>Shit gunplay
>MUH SKILLS
It's shit
I'm about to reinstall recommend me some mods
>>337693875
90 ways to deal with Benny.
Major faction half assed.
Priorities Obsidian priorities.
>>337690952
The amount of low INT dialogue was embarassing tbqh.
>>337683854
Lonesome Road was a pretty bad ending to the background DLC storyline.
3's ambient music was the worst. it sounded like some pseudo oblivion stuff. new vegas's was far better, f4's was good too.
it's like they took their elder scrolls composer to make music for f3, obsidian said no fuck this, we're doing it like this and then beth was "they had a point, let's use that"
>>337685890
in all 3 i ended up with stealthy sniper rifle builds, sniping shit from far away and talking my way out of trouble.
>>337688239
>play new vegas several times on console and pc
>Spend several hours configuring over 100 mods to Fear And Loathing, plus extra ui mods in MO
>everything works adding them piecemeal
>go to bed, restart the game the next day
>NPCs have purple heads
>dialog boxes are unusable
>Enhanced Camera first person deaths break AGAIN
At this point, I don't know whether to just quit, download someone elses configuration, or spend YET ANOTHER FIVE HOURS configuring this fucking game
Does anyone have a premodded game folder hosted on mega or something? This modlist
http://pastebin.com/GgeawkL1 is killing me, and I haven't even touched quests or weapons
>>337694431
Here's some underrated QoL modz, I refuse to play without some of them:
Pip-Phone
SSS Ultimate Western UI Sound Overhaul
Tutorial Killer (merge them)
More Perks merged from NVEC
Pipboy Menu Tabbing Hotkeys
Quick Trade
Close Terminal Hotkey
And of course QUICK LOOT
>tfw I love both NV and fallout 4
I don't know why I just do, 4 isn't nearly as bad as people made it out to be. So I guess whenever it does something right I'm amazed because people were going on about how garbage it was.
>>337697008
My main problem is one that many here probably had:
I played the opening five hours, aside from the cinematic nonsense, it had potential. So I ran around looting, crafting, leveling up, thinking "this is alright, but I haven't found a single fun quest, character, or settlement". Around 50 hours in, I realized that this was all there was to it, got bored, and haven't played since. It's fun until you realize how empty the commonwealth really is, and then go back to new vegas
>>337697401
I give myself goals and that helps to keep me entertained, I enjoy seeing something slowly work up to a grand goal.
>>337697619
As do I, but I also like having smaller tasks and errands along the way. I liked that they readded survival needs for example, but I genuinely missed weapon repairing and jamming, they forced you to not rely solely on your two-shot sniper rifles and explosive tommy guns
>>337683128
despite the art fallout 3 was better
>>337693768
I always hated that shit. I think Specials need to help percentage wise the skills, not just 10 skill points in the beginning- you have 10 Charisma, you get 30-40% more for your Speech and Barter through the game, something like that.
>>337698028
I still had fun with it, especially in my brotherhood kill all nonhumans playthrough. Only time I felt I was actually roleplaying.
>>337683128
Perfect atmosphere, great companions and fun quests.
>>337683742
JINGLE JANGLE
Thanks for reminding me to start playing new vegas again OP
I never finished DUST and I'm sure there have been many updates in the past few months I've missed out on
That's right, I'm posting it
You've got no choice now niggas
>>337685890
high int high charisma merchant (jew) playthrough
currently doing busy work in outer vegas while I contemplate my next move for the future of vegas
God damn it, I can't get over it how /v/ is obsessed with this mediocre game, just because WOAH compared to Fallout 3 it doesn't look as shitty as it actually is.
>western cowboy setting for a post-apocalyptic game wtf
>country music that gives you headaches after 5 minutes of listening
>overall very ugly map, especially New Vegas and its Strip
>dozen of unnecessary and uninteresting factions like The Kings
>completely illogical plot because men in skirts, primarily equipped with machetes are conquering the wasteland, sure
>enemies from a neckbeard wet dream, like blue(?) super mutants that have giant swords and can cloak
>praised for having more endings that Fallout 3, but all of them are presented in a diashow with a voice over. talking about cheap and boring execution
The game is so meh. I don't even like Fallout as a whole that much, but Fallout 3 and 4 objectively nailed the post apocalyptic setting and atmosphere way better than New Vegas.>inb4 bait. Whatever you delusional fags. Keep circle jerking to feel like this game isn't shit.
Because it's not made by Bethesda
>>337699168
I'm not disagreeing with you, but pretty much all of that stuff fits with 1 and 2 more then 3 did. Also those supermutants were in the old games. And voiceover slideshows were the endings in one and 2 as well.
>>337699168
I had fun with it.
>>337699168
>subjective
>subjective
>granted, The Strip was pretty fucking shit but I don't think making it bigger and with more NPCs would have looked much better on gamebryo
>Caesar's Legion are well-trained and do have guns, they just prefer melee combat. Most NCR are reservists to bolster numbers and most wastelanders don't know how to do shit
>RPG-like enemy variation in an RPG is somehow bad
>subjective, at least the slideshows made it seem like your actions had impact
>>337699404
>And voiceover slideshows were the endings in one and 2 as well.
Obviously, because they are isometric old games.
>>337683248
I bet its the last good "Bethesdas" open world "RPG".
>>337699683
I would like to bring up how 3's ending was a slideshow as well, it was just the way the series does it.
>>337699620
There is mod that makes the strip to not have loading screens. Blame 10 month dev time, shitty engine, Bethesda not doing the QA as promised and consoles for it.
>>337683248
>it came out six years ago, so we must talk about something else
It's not /vr/, and there's not constant generals about it, fuck off back to Rebbit or IGN or Neogaf where you can talk about trendy shit all you want, regardless of actual game quality and amount of discussion.
>>337694431
DUST
>>337699168
none of these are actual criticisms
>>337699620
The last thing isn't subjective at all, it's genuinely cheap production.
After finishing the game you couldn't even keep walking around in the wasteland, it felt like you had no impact at all.
>>337699950
They wanted to have gameplay after the main story, but they didn't have enough time for it.
>>337685890
Butcher of Blaviken
High endurance
High perception
High strenght
Only melee weapons
I always ask for caps for errands, I always travel alone and I try to solve matters by choosing the lesser evil.
![aBG4bTZ[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/BowwfJZ.jpg "aBG4bTZ[1].jpg")
>>337684805
get out of here bethesda, your games are shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvwlt4FqmS0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLJ1gyIzg78
After 300 hours i finally bothered with caravan.
Also that 30 wins was my last achiement. Wew lad. I dont think I can find anymore in this game.
Rest in piece nv, loved u
>>337699146
If you want the ultimate challenge mode for Jewery, get the reworked economy mod. Shit's amazing.
>>337699942
Shit map design and illogical story seem like valid criticism to me.
>>337699168
Has bait gone too far?
>>337700368
>illogical story
he didn't tell us why the story is illogical
>Shit map design
he said nothing about the map and why it's design is bad, he just said it's ugly
>>337700328
is this it?
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/58762?
>>337694431
>https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=475068117 For graphics n shit.
>>337699168
>Fallout 3 and 4 objectively nailed the post apocalyptic setting and atmosphere way better than New Vegas.
if they were set like 20-30 years after the war, it'd be fine.
they're set over 200 years later, enough time passed for large factions to form, fight for supremacy and begin to rebuild, not still be stuck in "everything is broken to all fuck and people are dumb savage raiders who travel in packs".
the world wouldn't remain a blasted shithole wasteland indefinitely.
>>337700909
the east coast would definitely be targeted with more nukes if a war like that ever happened. i'm not saying Bethesda's writers thought of that, but it makes sense as head canon.
>>337700808
Yeah, that's it. I also recommend the instant headshot death mod, along with tweaking Project Nevada to be brutal as hell (getting shot with rifles crippling limbs in 2 hits, for example) for the ultimate fun experience.
>>337685890
Doing a Yoshikage Kira Run
High INT, High Cha, High PER mostly Explosives, Stealth and killing bitches and whores for their beautiful succulent hands.
>>337692573
Don't talk shit about my post-apocolyptic husbando
>tfw no Arcade irl to be cynical and do science with
>>337701068
That isn't necessarily true. Recall that, apparently, most of the US' military infrastructure was located in the West coast. Not to mention that California was hit hours before DC or Boston.
>>337701068
yeah, but after 200 years people would begin rebuilding already, not the presence/absence of radiation.
what i described was the fallout 3/4 where everyone still lives in ruins, in settlements cobbled together from trash, and everything is full of faceless raiders who also squat in ruins patched up with mismatching junk.
it's like everyone forgot how to fix things up, and instead of getting those masonry skills fired up to start rebuilding places they squat on top of rubble, patching holes up with plywood or pieces of cars.
>>337701518
washington is the seat of the US government, if you want to truly cripple a military you should cut off its head. there actually shouldn't be any buildings left in DC whatsoever.
>>337701684
uhh.
>yeah, but after 200 years people would begin rebuilding already. i didn't mean the presence/absence of radiation.
>>337685890
Female Junkie Great Khan is always fun, have to sneak, steal, and get high to solve problems.
>>337699168
>country music that gives you headaches after 5 minutes of listening
Just leave and take your shitty opinions with you.
>>337699168
What you saw in FONV was actually an shadow of what Van Buren should have been, FONV managed to put that Black Isle feel into game despite retarded outdated engine and despite forced open world+ mandatory oblivion with guns.
I get it, it was either this or some horrible destiny in hands of EA or Activision, yet , no matter how bad we consider Bethesda, they at least try to keep good old PC legacy(when games were not made exclusively for really,really ,really stupid people) somewhat alive.
Anyway, FONV is best 3d Fallout, problem with people who dont recognise that as an fact is that they played FO3 as an first Fallout and they measure all other Fallouts thru FO3.
And FO1,2 were serious rpgs, with dark humor, satire on cold war, they were games for matured audience, they didn't pretend that they are, you can feel that influence in FONV but not in fo3,4.
>>337685170
>being a legionary dog
>fallout 4 cucks are literal mongrels
it all makes sense now
>>337699168
>but Fallout 3 and 4 objectively nailed the post apocalyptic setting and atmosphere way better than New Vegas
How to spot a Fallout 3 baby.
>>337702280
fartdude123
>>337700092
>no int
then how are you goign to use signs
i installed fallout IV for 6 times, came around ~20 lvl. uninstall with saves to prevent myself to reinstall .
After a month, i forgot how shitty this game actually is, now they made survival interesting(what with drinking, eating, tiredness ,hypotermia or whatewer ) ill reinstall again.. but I know only build for this game, Idiot Savant, INT 1, melee and General Chao Revenge+ Spray'n'Pray
>>337683128
Because it is a Bethesda game, but actually good.
I feel like most people actually really like the structure of Bethesda games, but doesn't like what Bethesda makes out of them.
I seriously fucking hope we'll get another good "Bethesda" game somewhat soon.
Cyberpunk 2077 will probably be good, and I trust CDP to at least try to make a competent game, unlike Bethesda.
>>337686285
Haha the last good crpg was dragon age origins, fallout new bugs is shit, is crap, and overrated crap that obshitards try to make it good
>>337704220
what criticisms do you actually have?
>>337704151
Bethesda has the same problem iD does, they make a good engine, but not a good game.
Also, F:NV was more Obsidian then Bethesda.
>>337683248
It actually IS that great. Why do you think a new thread gets made every day?
>>337699168
Goddamn are you dumb.
>western cowboy setting for a post-apocalyptic game wtf
First of, it's post-post-apocalyptic, meaning that humanity is at the stage of rebuiling the society 200 years after the nukes, not struggle for survival.
Second of, it makes perfect sense. That cowboy setting goes perfectly with the fact that Mojave Wasteland is in the middle of colonization and used to be almost entirely desolate not so long ago. Go read a history book or something, this is literally what life was in America when cowboys were a thing.
>country music that gives you headaches after 5 minutes of listening
Sujbective and goes to prove you have terrible taste
>overall very ugly map, especially New Vegas and its Strip
Yeah no, pic related.
>dozen of unnecessary and uninteresting factions like The Kings
More content is never a bad thing, so "unnecessary" is wrong.
They are also hardly uninteresting given that each faction has its background and relevance to the story.
>completely illogical plot because men in skirts, primarily equipped with machetes are conquering the wasteland, sure
If your attention span was longer than that of a goldfish you probably would find out that only low ranking members use melee weapons.
>enemies from a neckbeard wet dream, like blue(?) super mutants that have giant swords and can cloak
What the fuck are you even trying to say here
>praised for having more endings that Fallout 3, but all of them are presented in a diashow with a voice over. talking about cheap and boring execution
It's the same kind of execution as in Fallout 1/2. It's cheap and easy to make which actualyl allows the game to have so much endings and choices and consequences.
I will take over Mass Effect "endings" any day.
>>337699950
>After finishing the game you couldn't even keep walking around in the wasteland
Continuing the game after the ending is a fucking retarded idea to begin with. It's called an "ending" for a reason.
The events that end NV would have so much impact on the whole game world that it would require huge changes to everything. It's not feasible, at all.
>>337683248
It is great but Bethesdadrones like you drove us who loved this game out of the Fallout general on /vg/.
Hence the constant threads.
>>337704417
Bethesda didn't make Gamebryo.
>>337704874
>The events that end NV would have so much impact on the whole game world that it would require huge changes to everything. It's not feasible, at all.
It isn't, but Obsidian actually planned to do exactly that at the beginning of development. There are even still securitron voice files in the game that reference all the different factions taking over the strip.
>>337704624
>the amount of grasping at straws just to have arguments
I will reply only to the one I found most retarded.
>If your attention span was longer than that of a goldfish you probably would find out that only low ranking members use melee weapons.
I see this argument way too often when you point it out to Obsidiaretards.
If you had two factions, one entirely uses fire arms and the other uses part fire arms and part melee weapons, obviously the faction using only fire arms is in an advantage.
>>337705189
it makes you wonder how the hell they thought they were going to finish that game in just a year and a half. talk about biting off more than you can chew. they should have concentrated on the bugs instead.
>>337683128
made with love
>>337704624
>>overall very ugly map, especially New Vegas and its Strip
>Yeah no, pic related.
Thanks for uploading. Now everyone can see how butt ugly the Strip is. It just doesn't fit at all for the setting.
>>337699038
>nobody replies to this post
Just finished all the main missions and the DLC
The last thing I have to do is the final battle
Something else I should do?
>>337705708
challenges?
>>337705708
you've only done the main quest? you know there are like 50 side quests right?
>>337705810
more like 150
>>337705708
>implying you've done absolutely everything
There's so many side quests and areas that I didn't come across until later playthroughs
>>337688468
Wild Card
>>337705393
>grasping at straws
Try to include some more merit and arguments in your posts next time.
> one entirely uses fire arms and the other uses part fire arms and part melee weapons, obviously the faction using only fire arms is in an advantage
Yeah, undoubtedly.
You don't seem to realize that one advatage is not what wins wars. Caesars Legion has superior morale and training, for one, both of which are also major advantages.
That's why the conflict still exist, both forces have their strong and weak points.
>>337688468
Anarchy if you want the whole personal justice thing. House if you are the sherrif.
>>337705708
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas_quests
unmarked quests
>>337705434
>it makes you wonder how the hell they thought they were going to finish that game in just a year and a half.
I think they said something that they had a lot of problems with the engine that they did not foresee.
>they should have concentrated on the bugs instead.
I think that it is actually fantastic that they didn't do that. We all know how much stuff they had to cut out to make their deadline. What else would they have had to cut out had they wanted to produce a bugfree game?
Sure, people can hate buggy games with fanpatches all they want, but if I had to choose between a good, but buggy game, and a bad, but bugfree game, I'd always choose the former.
>>337705610
>implying that pic is ugly
Get your eyes checked. Post something you consider to be pretty then.
>It just doesn't fit at all for the setting.
What, you think a town full of neons and tech doesn't fit in a desert?
Well bad news for you Anon, that's exactly how Vegas is in real life as well. Do you go around sperging that Las Vegas is a shitty town because it doesn't fit the setting?
>>337706148
>I think they said something that they had a lot of problems with the engine that they did not foresee
And it shows.
For example the ballistic fist was supposed to use shotgun ammo on each succesful strike (similarly to how power fist and other weapons required energy cells in F 1/2) but they couldn't figure out how to implent it in gamebryo.
>>337683128
cause you saw what it could've been with FO3
>>337684269
It's your opinion and glad you're one of the rational people who can't enjoy something unless it's preaproved by bunch of kissless virgins on /v/ but objectively FONV blows it out of the water.
>>337684805
Better empty desert connected by well thought out and designed quests, characters and storyline than a world filled with hollow set pieces and dumb quests made by people who don't care or understand their design.
>>337685649
It wasn't but they had their own objectives and goals and ideals.
The caesars motivations and goals were well defined and understandable and he was an interesting character.
Versus all the factions in FO3
>lol do this thing
>lol go after dad
>lol hurr I'm bad and I'm here to stop your dad achiving the goal that would benefit me
>"you're evil mr computer"
>lol ok I'll hero bye
LITERALLY
>"you're bad mr bad man"
>ok I'll just leave bye
LITERALLY
First of all I just want to clear some things up, this is the objective correct fallout teir list:
Fallout 4 > Fallout 3 > Fallout: New Vegas > The rest of the series with that stupid ass turn based top down bullshit.
The game, just like the series is fundementally flawed though, it lacks true role playing, the part there where they force your character to be a courier take away the players to decide a true origin/back story, dima is nick valentine's brother and the endings are either to replace the children of atom leader with a synth, nuke far harbor or the children of atom, or kill dima, red death is a mirelurk that does nothing. this is what happens in the fallout 4 far harbor dlc, this pervents a lot of true organic play, player/charcter growth, world building, charcter progression, charchter/story arcs, and dynamic events feo happening naturally. Its a broken game series made by a broken company in a broken series for broken brained people to play it.
Prove me wrong.
>>337708548
Bait/10
Way too obvious. Needs to be more subtle and lead us on. Make convincing arguments that people agree with and THEN hit us with the bait and switch. Then one day you too can be a successful troll.
>>337708904
thanks for attention loser hahaha
>>337708548
>the game, just like the series is fundementally flawed though, it lacks true role playing, the part there where they force your character to be a courier take away the players to decide a true origin/back story
The only thing the devs force on you is that you took a job to deliver a package.
Beyond that nothing is forced on you. You can make up your origin/back story all you want.
It's impossible to make PC a 100% blank slate because the game needs to start with something.
>>337709202
See, you will never become a troll master with that attitude. Because I was indeed trolling you all along.
>>337708904
>he doesn't agree
use your brain at least anon.
>>337709270
cmon now, then wouldn't fo4 be a true RPG then?
it doesn't force anything onto you and gives you a clear blank slate
Is there a guide on how to actually guide NV? I literally installed like 20 mods only 20 and nothing worked please help
>>337709597
>it doesn't force anything onto you
You're married and have a kid. You're either an ex-military man or a former lawyer.
>>337709597
>cmon now, then wouldn't fo4 be a true RPG then?
No, because Fallout 4 not only does actually force a whole background on you (ex-military/lawyer, hetero, with a kid, etc.) it also has a very few ways to actually roleplay, given that there is not many distinctive decisions to take and pretty much no skill checks at all. They also dumbed down the whole system of character progression.
From what I've seen they tried to fix that to a degree in Far Harbor, but it's still lacking and doesn't make up for the whole base game.
>>337709202
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>>337683248
kys
>>337710784
Top kek, holy fucking shit.
>>337710784
You ok anon?
>>337709630
Look up Gopher on Youtube. He has a lot of modding tutorials.
>>337710784
>preordering dlc
>ps4
>fallout 4
>all that fucking rage
I dont even know where to start with you.
Mods for New Vegas haven't really gotten much better, right?
I did end up finding a naked loli mod, it was extremely rare however.
>>337705393
You seem to have missed all the in-game references to the fact that:
The NCR's leadership is fucked, and focusing solely on the dam while ignoring the Legion encroaching elsewhere
>The majority of the NCR's soldiers are poorly trained and equipped before being deployed
>The NCR's morale is shit; plenty don't think they should even be in the Mojave, the rest think/know that they're fighting for a lost cause
>The Legion's soldiers are trained from birth to fight
>They have an incredibly complex network of spies and saboteurs (The Frumentarii) with fingers in almost everything going on around Vegas
>The Legion soldiers believe Caesar is a god and will eagerly fight to the death for him
'having more guns' doesn't count for shit if your enemy blows your troops out of the water in areas of logistics, training, morale, leadership and tactics. If not for the Courier's (possible) intervetion, it's pretty clear just from what people are saying in-game and what the player encounters that the Legion would have taken Hoover Dam
Alright you fucks time for a different opinion about DLCs
Honest Hearts = Lonesome Road > Dead Money > OWB
Here's why:
Honest Hearts has the most interesting region and I love the lower level focused gameplay it offers. It starts off strong and is an overall enjoyable package. The enemies are enjoyable to fight with.
Lonesome Road has amazing armors (Riot Gear), and supplies you with high tier ammunition and weaponry so you get to really show off endgame Courier versus some tough enemies. It is also the culmination of the DLC storyline and Ulysses is nice to listen to. The enemies are varied and fun.
Dead Money is utter shit in Villa section but thankfully you can easily speedrun it since the enemies are braindead and slow. The Casino part is actually really good and I enjoy every second of it.
OWB is just a dull place with shit enemies. The dialogue is great for the most part but too much of it was just moving down shitty roboscorpions and lobotomites in dull enviroment. It has Stealth Suit Mk2 and Elijah's LAER though which are fantastic.
Feel free to disagree and argue
>>337708548
Pretty gay of you to be honest, fag, I was gonna pirate that shit.
>>337712138
Honest Hearts>Dead Money>Lonesome Road>OWB
I think the same about Honest Hearts but would like to add that I like it mostly because of the survival focus it has. The setting is perfect if you like to play survivalist-type characters and introduces a lot of crafting for those like Gecko Leather Armor or tanned skins (I love the introduction of tanning the skins to boost their value- nothing better than hunting Golden Geckos near Novac, tanning their skins and selling them for profit to traveling merchants).
Not to mention Joshua and Randall are probably the best 2 pieces of wriring in the entire game.
I liked Dead Money because I like to manage scarce resources and deal with challanges even if they might seem tedious. It get a lot better with homemade weapons mod that lets you craft shitty firearms at a workbench.
It was basically Fallout:Survival Horror and since I lik survival horrors I like it as well.
Lonesome Road was mostly a corridor shooter but as you said it had a lot of cool items and enemies were fun to fight.
All OWB had going for it was a lot of sci-fi tech and quirky humor. I didn't like any of those really.
>>337699038
roooool
>>337699168
>post-apocalyptic
Fallout is supposed to be post-post apocalyptic,
>>337712417
>valuing your time this little
I'd really like to play Fallout NV.
I've picked it up in a Steam sale a few years ago, but never got around to play it.
Just recently I downloaded it together with around 80 mods and although I got it to start it crashed every couple of minutes and said something along the lines of "low memory".
Is there a way to increase the RAM New Vegas uses? I've got 16GB and New Vegas doesn't even use 4 gigs.
>>337716195
Use 4gb New Vegas. New Vegas is coded to limit its memory useage, but 4GBNV expands it to 4, better suiting large mod lists and texture packs.
>>337716195
>Using a million mods on your first playthrough
PC cancer race
>>337716195
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/53635
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/49319
also this may help. it fixed constant autosave-related crashes i had. by now i only get an odd crash or scripting engine lockup every few hours of play rather than a crash every 20-30 min.
>>337716331
Thanks for the help!
Yeah I think I've used a mod for that. It still crashed. I've already lowered the number of mods in my game to around 40. It also runs at barely 26-28 FPS though that's something I could get used to.
>>337716636
Thanks!
I already knew NVAC but I'm definetely gonna try the other one out!
>>337716663
I would also suggest using a background loader; they virtually run and load New Vegas + mods, and let you know if there's any conflicts or errors that would cause a crash. Usually, though, it's only useful for diagnosing what causes startup crashes.
Also, don't mod all at once. Introduce 2-3 mods at a time, play for a bit, see how it handles, then tack on more.
>>337717136
Thanks for all the help! Really appreciated!
Are there any graphics mods you'd recommend that aren't that intense. I've got an AMD R9 390 if that's of any help.
New vegas is overrated beyond belief, and it is mostly because you lot hate bethesda that you praise it so much
>>337717989
Check out NMC's texture packs, the weapon retexture pack, Fallout Character Overhaul. There's a mod I also downloaded for hi-res textures of most clothing/armors but I can't remember what it's called; just look for HD clothing retextures on Nexus and you'll find it.
>>337717989
In addition, check out either Nevada Skies, OR Realistic Wasteland Lighting (they aren't compatible)
NS is a weather mod that adds dust storms and rain, as well as some pretty beautiful sunrises/sunsets and a way better looking skybox.
RWL just does the latter, but is compatible with way more ENB's, if you ever decide to try using one.
The only advice I can offer for using ENB's is to set up an ENB *first*. It's infinitely easier to make them work the less mods you have in New Vegas' directory.
>>337717989
>>337719229
Fuck, bit of clarification with RWL: it also alters the lighting, makes it more bleached, washed out, natural looking; a way to fix the orange hue the game's default is set to.
>>337683128
It's not. It's bland, boring and buggy. Just because it's better than 3 doesn't mean it's anything special.
