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Is it good?
7/10
>>337681302
ehhh
it's "okay"
it's a bit generic and doesn't do anything new
>>337681426
It's not supposed to do anything new
It's supposed to be DOOM, which it is
9/10
>>337681302
yes
>>337681302
It'sfun
But it's not particularly challenging, innovative, rewarding, satisfying, or gripping
>>337681302
I'm loving the campaign. I'm about five hours in. Not big on the multiplayer.
Yes. If you have disposable income go buy it.
It's fun as hell. But I wouldn't play on a low difficulty. I've been playing on ultra violence and it's good fun, but I played a snap map of e1m2 and I guess it was a lower difficulty because I didn't get hit once and killed everything in like 2 machine gun shots.
>>337682108
FPS genre in a nutshell.
Surprisingly yes.
>>337681852
New-Doom's design philosophy is almost entirely different from an FPS 20 years ago. If it was old-doom, it would be something unusual and original in today's market, which it isn't.
It might stand well on it's own merits but it's not more of Doom 1 + 2.
>>337682496
I hear people saying that Imps are mostly harmless. That's a clear way to tell they aren't playing on ultraviolence. 1 imp fireball hits for 60 health. Watched the Polygon stream and imp fireballs hit for 5 health.
>>337681302
its fun
unless you are depending on a good pvp experience
>>337682515
sadly
>>337682616
>Watched the Polygon stream
But why?
>>337682835
To laugh at them. Say a webm of them shooting at a stationary health pack and missing. Saw them strafing to aim without using the mouse.
>>337682835
It's kind of cute.
>>337682835
For laughs. Have you not seen it? The guy takes like 8 shots at an enemy before hitting it even once. It's a entirely new level of being terrible
>>337681852
It's completely different than the original games, as in the design philosophy behind the game is on a whole other spectrum. For example something as intrinsic as ammo pick-ups are missing, and the way that you obtain ammo is in a very modern way, where ammo drops in a instantly gratifying way to the please the lazy player.
Do this mean it's bad? No, it just isn't Doom. At least Doom 3 didn't constantly try to claim that it harked back to its roots.
>>337683705
>For example something as intrinsic as ammo pick-ups are missing
Uhh... no, they're not. They're actually a very important part of the game, as you can't really carry all that much ammo (by default).
>>337683705
>something as intrinsic as ammo pick-ups are missing
You should try playing the game first.
>>337683705
nice try. play the game first
I really like it. Fast paced, frantic, good weapons...Doesn't really do a lot NEW which people are saying here, but it's a hell of a good shooter. Solid 9/10.
>>337683963
I also haven't gone into the multiplayer yet, but I might at some point after I complete the campaign. From what others have said though, it's not worth it.
>>337684171
The multiplayer is just kind of generic and uninteresting. It's not bad, it's just not very good either.
The campaign is the real meat of the game.
Anyone else having problems? I have a 980, 16gb ram, good cpu, etc. And yet, when I start up the game, it takes a while to load and starts minimized which is weird, and it's closed out on me while playing multiple times now. No warning, nothing wrong going on in the game, no slowdown... all of a sudden the program is just ended and I'm on my desktop again. What's the deal?
>>337684497
Shame, because DOOM has always been known for its multiplayer aspect. I'll give it a go at some point, anon.
>>337684171
Besides being generic as fuck, i'm having good fun with it.
It bothers me how much the game revolves around who gets the most demon runes though.
>>337684667
It does take a while to start up, but I haven't had any issues. I'm using a GTX 980M though, so not the same thing.
>>337684667
I dunno, I'm running a GTX660 and the game has played perfectly fine for me (though at minimum settings and 20fps). Waiting to pick up a 1070 soon.
>>337681302
Pretty good 8/10.
Would have given it a 9/10 if it didn't have the RPG mechanics and stupid forced cutscenes.
>>337684676
no, that's quake
>>337681302
it's .. fucking .... awesome xDDD..
go get it plus the season pass!! <3
>>337685301
>being this wrong
I hate kids
>>337685982
you are wrong. doom invented deathmatch, but it became big with quake.
>>337681302
>cuck wants the opinions of others to be his.
Welcome to neo/v/
>>337681302
>is it good
Meh
>is it fun
Yes absolutely
Pissed that you cant make custom rooms in snapmap so a remake of DOOM 1 and 2 is nigh impossible 7/10 because of that
>>337681302
Haven't played it. Looked pretty bad at E3 but that recent Nvidia video looks pretty fucking fast and I've been hearing loads of people who hated the multiplayer really like it.
I really enjoyed TNO so I'll probably pick it up when it drops in price.
It's more of an extension of BrutalDoom than Doom itself, which isn't surprising since BrutalDoom had a lot of popularity even from non-fans, so that was probably ID's way of playing it safe.
It's enjoyable though, if you can lower expectations a little, don't expect the same premeditated level design with dynamic shifting, it's closer to Serious Sam here in style with stages feeling like arenas with monsters gushing in.
Don't expect the same clever design of monster synergies either, there are definite high-priority targets but nothing in the designs combine or works as eloquently together as in the original Dooms.
There's fast though, movement speed isn't as speedy as in the original Doom but monsters actually assault you, if fast was what you enjoyed the most about Doom then you'll probably like this too.
Also if you enjoyed BrutalDoom you'll probably like this, if you're a diehard Doom fan though, probably not as much.
>>337685982
Most people played Doom 1 & 2 for single player. While it did invent deathmatch, it wasn't as common to play as quake and later. Also back in the day connecting to others to play was a pain in the ass.
I do not miss the days of manually entering IP addresses to play multiplayer with no server list.
I do miss the days of server lists however...
Overall I'm fucking loving doom 4's single player. Haven't touched multiplayer and don't care so much, may poke into snapmap to see how that works.
yes
>>337686603
I dunno about half the shit you're talking about in the original doom, man. I played that shit as a kid and watching my dad play it and all I remember it being about was shooting demons and shit, that's it.
I think I have to turn down the motion blur a bit.
>>337687212
why would you ever turn it on in the first place
>>337686845
It wasn't though, the level design had an important place, with differences in space and manuverability available, with walls, corners and floorspaces shifting, you could face the same mix of enemies as before in a new level setting and suddenly the challenge was completely different solely because of that, with secrets that each required their own tricks and memorization that converted directly into earlier weapons, ammo and health that allowed you to be more careless with ammo and tank damage.
The monster synergies were important too, with Doom II they introduced the chaingunner which was a threatening hitscan enemy, but then made a counter addition by introducing enemies like the Pain Elemental and Arch-vile that forced you out from behind cover as well as the Revenant which demanded loads of space to engage safely.
A lot of people who've played Doom less thinks it's just "fast", "metal music" and "blasting demons", but anyone who's played it for a considerable time, played the extensions (Final and Master Levels), played the other idTech1 games, MegaWADs and the like know that premeditated design had a big saying in the enjoyment of Doom.
>>337683054
>>337683194
>>337683585
Ah, schadenfreude, now I get it.
>>337682578
>Why can't Doom reinvent the wheel with every iteration?
Doom has a real bad case of "set the bar way too fucking high" the first time, but I'm perplexed by why you faggots think it's feasible for them to revolutionize video games with every game they produce.
They tried something new with Doom 3, and everyone bitched because it's not what they wanted.
I'm beginning to think that people are just shitting on the new one just because they think talking shit about the new one will give them faggot hipster cred as if literally everyone hasn't played the first two.
>>337687553
Great post anon. I completely agree.
People want to fit in, and it's become hip to shit on the new Doom.
>>337687337
Because it looks good in motion and I only have a 60hz monitor.
>>337687349
No, I'm pretty sure I enjoyed it as a kid just to shoot shit. And I'm pretty sure that's the only reason my dad did either.
I really think you're trying to make it seem more than it is to make the previous doom entries sound intellectual.
>>337687212
>not turning off upper parts of the hud
>>337687553
>Everyone who says they don't like it must be lying because of this pseudo-intellectual idea I came up with.
I'm sure that really wows people in 8th grade homeroom.
yup definitely doom
>>337682616
>there are people that aren't playing on nightmare
I seriously don't understand why you would buy this game- scratch that, I don't understand why the hell you would buy any game just to play it on easy mode.
What the fuck is the point if you aren't challenged?
You don't learn anything or or get better when you always think to yourself "Hmm, lowest common denominator retard mode? Sign me up, after all, it's 'normal' ;)"
Fucking hate it.
>>337687848
Naw, I'm trying to align expectations because depending on how people enjoyed the old games they may or may not like the new one.
For instance, the way you appreciated the old Doom games makes it sound like you'd quite enjoy the new one, however that doesn't neccesarily hold true for all Doom fans, some liked the going fast: The damage mitigation through evasion, others like monster synergies, a lot liked the premeditated level design, some liked infighting, there's a lot of different priorities going about here and depending on what your priorities are, you may or may not like the new Doom.
Not much to discuss here though as you aren't addressing key points, so I'm out.
>>337684667
Same card, half the RAM and I get 140+ fps on ultra with only the motion blur turned off. Loads fast too. Get the newest drivers.
>>337688153
>pseudo-intellectual
If anything about that seemed "intellectual" to you, you're a fucking retard, what's more, you're an insecure faggot for bringing it up because it offended you personally.
Quite being a defensive little cunt.
>>337688617
nah.
Are there any console commands that let me unlock all the perks/runes? I don't play Doom for fucking ability progression and I want to go fast from the get-go.
>>337683705
Wow.
Shitposters ladies and gentlemen. They don't even get the facts right when they're trying to pick a game apart.
>>337681302
best SP game ive played in over a decade, easily
>>337688405
Anon, is the way other people play video games making you mad?
Please reconsider your life.
>>337685982
Self-loathing is a terrible burden to live with, anon, you should seek outside help.
Any way to disable the ingame story cutscenes?
>>337683705
Proof that 90% of people who talk about this game haven't played it.
>>337681302
no
stripped out many things that made doom 1 and 2 good, replaced them with generic FPS tropes, and I'm still mad
Dumb fucks on /v/me included please fucking shoot mefalling for Bethesda's immense advertising campaigns, as usual
>>337682616
>should we add more enemies to make the player test his crowd control abilities?
>no let's just make an imp one-hit you
Bravo
>>337689308
i cant tell if this is a troll or serious
i've played it and its what I expected but you literally are just spewing buzzwords like a ponce and making no sense
HAHA BUZZWORDS
HAHA NO IDEA WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT
fuck off
>>337689517
Ive only gotten to like level 2 or 3 and I have to deal with 5+ imps and he'll knights already, so idk what you're talking about.
>>337689917
It's really lazy to just increase damage output, and it's complained about in every other game
>>337689517
Play the game before shitposting.
>>337688093
Yeah you're right. Turned off the compass and other shit and it's definitely better.
>>337685109
>minimum settings and 20fps
>perfectly fine for me
Dude, are you for real ?
>>337690647
He stated right there that a fireball does 60 damage. That's an outrageous amount
>>337681302
Campaign is decent fun, but generally feels more like Serious Sam and Painkiller.
Even with the keys, the level designs are generally straightforward and linear in how you progress them, with occasional secret sidepaths, Often get locked in rooms until you kill all the demons, too. So not really much options and exploration here.
Compare this to, say, E2M2 of the original, which is full of paths in virtually all directions, many completely optional stuff that isnt always a secret, and generally is designed with the expectation that the player has to figure out where the keys are by himself.
>>337681302
>You can't even have devils on cover because soccer mom fascist censorship
>>337689915
Hes 100% percent right and probably serious as well.
Pro tip: you are the one looking like an idiot.
Where's the crack?
fffuck
>>337691381
Is this Half-life refference?
>>337691012
>hes 100% right
Samefag detected.
hi i have a good pc but rubbish monitor atm
can it run in 1280x1024 ?!?
please answer like does it run in .ini change without looking all messed up
>>337691012
>100% right
>didn't explain
samefag detected
>>337681302
why are you asking /v/?
/v/ is shit and hates everything.
>>337691012
>'wow whoever this guy that totally isnt me is sure is smart!!!'
samefag detected
>>337681302
For a Bethesda-produced modern day FPS that's meant to be based on an older IP, they could have done a hell of a lot worse. There are modern mechanics spliced it that diehard Doom fans will moan about (forced ingame cutscenes, some dialogue, upgrades), but the shooting is still fun and the aesthetics feel like Doom.
I wouldn't pay the full $60, but I'd say pick it up if you can get it under $40.
>>337691443
That's what I thought when I saw it. I'm sure it's a nod at least.
>>337691534
Get fucked, it's one of those games that you should actually buy.
Vote with your dollar nigga
>>337691751
Ew, I'm not buying a bethesda game
>>337690135
Increasing damage values is a perfectly legitimate way to increase difficulty. Health measures potential mistakes. On a higher difficulty you get less mistakes.
>>337682578
Literally all they had to do was remake Doom 1 with better graphics, different levels, and some new shit added on and it would have stuck out like a golden ray of gods light in this abyss of shitty modern fps.
Instead it feels like they made Doom, then toned it back to feel closer to a modern shooter so kiddies won't feel too alienated before packaging it and selling it.
They don't have to reinvent the wheel because they perfected it the first time. Just bring classic DOOM gameplay, not bogged down with all this shit, to the modern fucking era, and show these kids what a real FPS is. But they didn't do it, at least not 100%. It's really disappointing how neo-id just doesn't get it.
>>337683705
Bahahahahaahaha faggot.
>>337691729
>ingame cutscenes
few and far between
>dialogue
wasn't that big of a deal, although I did enjoy Samuel complaining about you destroying stuff
>upgrades
which you don't have to use. Apparently some people have gone through the majority of the game without them.
>>337689134
Nice to see /v/ actually calling out shit rather than agreeing with hate because lol gaming sux.
>>337692050
I don't know why you are challenging me. My conclusion was that the game was worth money, surely there are more important posts to argue against since you support the game so much.
Unless you are a marketer who can't handle the idea of the game not being worth full price. Fuck off Bethesda.
>>337692050
The upgrades tend to work as new weapons rather than just upgrades which I like.
>>337689915
what a great response, anon
>>337690135
Changing damage you receive is not complained about nearly as much as you think. It actually encourages you to play more carefully.
Changing hp of enemies on the other hand is awful game design. It doesn't encourage extra skill at all, it just makes fights last longer.
Ammo pickups are plentiful throughout the entire map. It's the health pickups that are few and far between, which forced the use of glory kill to pick up health. I actually like getting health from glory kills because I actually have a fighting chance even if I have 1 hp. The glory kills are actually fast (1-2 seconds) and you're immediately back in action. Later in yhe game you get runes to speed up glory kills to SANIC speed.
Weapon upgrades tier list
HAR - Micro Missiles > Scope
Plasma Gun - Stun Grenade > Shockwave
Shotgun - Grenade Launcher > Charged Shot
Rocket Launcher - Homing Lockon > Remote Detenation
Chaingun - Mobile Turret > Rotating Barrel
Guass Rifle - Seige Mode > Advance Aiming
>>337692308
>Shotgun with grenade launcher
Literally the best weapon in the game.
Single player is a blast, takes nods from old games and infuses them with a lot of modern elements. Very much a throwback to the attitude of Doom in terms of your character and how he interacts with the story. Slow start that snowballs into frantic and intense combat where movement is life.
MP is pretty vanilla, it isn't terrible but it isn't really as satisfying as the core game.
Anyone in this thread giving actual responses will be called a shill and no evidence other than "it's fucking garbage" will be given otherwise, old players will tell you you don't know what Doom is and accuse you of being too young to play them, other 80% of /v/ will continue having fun, life goes on in the wasteland.
>>337692173
im not challenging you in the way you think I am. Im just saying the improvements aren't really that big of a deal
>>337691824
Why not?
It's a fun ass game with fairly little bullshit.
>>337691846
People like you will always complain. It's a Doom game and it's fairly true to the original while doing some new things. It's fun, it's polished and it's fun.
Get fucked, did you even play it or are you just complaining on an image board?
Has anyone played anything decent from Snapmap?
>>337692421
When you reduce the cooldown time, it becomes the best way to conserve ammo and do a lot of damage. Plus dat stagger on bigger enemies.
>That Dead Simple reference
I was hoping the walls would open up and I'd fight spider demons, but oh well, it was still a nice reference.
its okay
denuvo is shit tho
maps are pretty big and open
Its good but i wish my laptop would run it better, unless I have the rendering set to 75% my mouse movement is delayed.
did anyone crash at hell? can't get past the loading screen to it
>>337692482
>Anyone in this thread giving actual responses will be called a shill and no evidence other than "it's fucking garbage" will be given otherwise, old players will tell you you don't know what Doom is and accuse you of being too young to play them, other 80% of /v/ will continue having fun, life goes on in the wasteland.
pretty much this. The game is good, you can even get it for cheap on 3rd party sites. The only thing i can complain about is how shotguns destroy everything in MP. I've been killed across rooms by both shotguns.
>>337684667
>I have a 980
Found your problem. If you're still buying Nvidia you should know why everything runs like shit.
>>337690865
For like a decade I've never bothered to check requirements since I've always had a good rig, but I've neglected upgrading for a while and this caught me by surprise.
By "works fine" I mean its actually playable. 20fps fucking sucks but I'm honestly surprised the game is playable at all. I'm picking up a new video card ASAP since it's the weak link in my system.
>>337692482
I don't remember boring ass guns and finishers being in the original games, not sure what they were nodding at there.
>>337693152
>my dumb fucking opinions are based on absolutely no evidence please fuck my face
Man this thread really reminded me why I stopped coming to this place years ago.
Just one dumb post after another. No thoughts put into any of them.
See you fags never, hope you all get AIDS.
>>337681426
How in the fuck is this game generic?
It's a fast paced single player arena shooter set in hell. I can't remember the last one one of these was even released.
>>337693086
Update your display drivers. Worked for me, at least.
Is it worth $60? Worth doing multiple replays?
>Graphic to Ultra setting using the 970 memecard
>constant 60fps throughout the game
>get into 'cutscenes' with an NPC
>FPS crash down to 37 fps
Considering how smooth the gameplay is even with multiple enemies on. I can tolerant these shitty ass 'cutscenes'
>>337693585
So far I am up to Hell, which I wager is maybe half way, and I am missing secrets-a-plenty. I know at least for me I'll play through it again on the harder difficulty you unlock and if I feel compelled after that I might do a 100% secrets run.
It's pretty much Serious Sam, but with a DOOM skin and obvious Brutal DOOM inspirations for the gameplay.
It's pretty damn fun, but if you're an absolute DOOM purist, you're going to hate it.
It's not as good as the original games, but I don't think anyone expected it to be. I think it's pretty good though.
Not worth $60 though. Maybe $35, so either get it from a key reseller, or wait for a crack (lol Denuvo).
MP is pure shit. Avoid it until the classic mode comes out, which I hope doesn't have loadouts or a weapon limit. It'll also have DLC out the ass, so I don't recommend it anyway.
All in all, it's much better than I expected it to be, and I hope modding outside of SnapMap becomes a possibility (because it's so damn limited). I'd love to see a new age of DOOM modding.
>>337692245
It's a good thing difficulty does not scale higher for the demons. I can still run up and glory kill possessed without shooting them and imps GiB within a shotgun to the face.
>>337691475
Buy a new monitor dipshit
>>337691846
ARE YOU SO INCENSED BY THE LAST 20 YEARS OF VIDEO GAMING THAT YOU HONESTLY BELIEVE THERE HAVE BEEN NO BENEFICIAL ADVANCES IN GAME DESIGN AND THE THEORY SUPPORTING IT IN THAT TIME? SURELY NOT EVERY CHANGE HAS BEEN FOR THE WORSE, AND SHOULD THERE BE CHANGES IN TECHNOLOGY OR DESIGN MOTTO THEN IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO ADOPT THEM?
IS JUMPING UNNECESSARY BECAUSE DOOM 1 DID NOT HAVE IT? WOULD DOOM 4 HAVE BEEN SUBSTANTIALLY BETTER IF THERE WERE LESS AREAS BUT THOSE THAT DID EXIST WERE BACKTRACKED THROUGH AS THE LEVEL PROGRESSED? IS LEVEL DESIGN AS A CONCEPT LIMITED TO THE USE OF PLAYED SPACE OR CAN IT EXTEND TO ABSTRACTED GOALS LIKE A TOWER TO CLIMB THAT CAN BE SHOWN VIA SKYBOX?
>>337694043
This faggot has been posting this shit for two days now, ignore it for fuck sake.
>>337691751
>Get fucked, it's one of those games that you should actually buy.
No it isn't. Don't spend 60 bucks for an 8 hour campaign.
>>337692574
Wake me up.jpg
>>337693152
>If you're still buying Nvidia you should know why everything runs like shit.
But AMD cards are far more prone to problems.
>I can't pirate because I'm a poorfag or underage.
Basically people who haven't played the game or have no means to are shitting over it.
Get over it and learn to have fun with games again.
>>337694331
Doom is not about high replay, spoken straight from anon!
>>337694413
I have means to buy the game, but I don't know if it'll run on my PC. It also costs and arm and a leg in my country.
I've defended it since it was revealed, and I wanna fucking play it, but I need to pirate it first.
2bh from all the shit I read about it on here I was a little bit discouraged, but when i started mowing down enemies with the music ramped up I started having fun.
8/10 it's bretty fun, just don't expect anything REVOLUTIONARY
Soundtrack where?
>>337693152
Either you're baiting, or an AMD shill.
Either way you're a gigantic schlong-swallowing faggot
>>337694594
find it on a keysite. Denuvo means you won't be cracked (at least anytime soon). You can get it on g2a for $34, so it might be cheap for you on other sites.
Also it runs pretty well on most system, not sure what you have though.
>>337682578
>If it was old-doom, it would be something unusual and original in today's market,
It was literally wolf3d with better graphics and physics because hardware improved in that time.
>>337694816
i3 ivy bridge
8gb ram
HD 7800
Betas ran fine, but I'm not sure how the whole game will play out.
>G2A
It seems to be less pricey, but it's still high over here.
1 dollar is worth about $3.50 in our currency, plus some stupid ass taxes, so that racks up the price a lot, especially for new games.
>>337695181
>1 dollar is worth about $3.50 in our currency
jesus christ
Besides that, if you ran the beta well, then you should be fine. I had some frame issues during the beta on my 980, but i can run this at high-ultra fine at a constant 60 fps. Hopefully you can find it for cheap, because its definitely worth it.
>>337695181
You could buy it on Steam, then refund and buy from keysite
Surely Valve will not be pissed about your shenanigans
Timed demo mode when
>>337695878
They should release a demo of the E3 area. To show how much faster the game is compared to the initial reveal.
>>337681852
>It's supposed to be Doom.
>Which it is.
No.
