What does /v/ think of Sonic The Hedgehog?
Synonymous with autism
Definitely misogynistic.
he's got a nice fat ass
The only bad games are 06 and Boom: Rise of Lyric
The rest simply appeal to some and don't appeal to others
This is objective fact
>>337681306
>appeal
That's an incredibly vague and subjective term.
Best Sonic games are as follows
Sonic Megadrive games
Sonic CD
Sonic Adventure games
Sonic Advance games
Sonic Rush games
Sonic Unleashed
Sonic Colors
Sonic Generations
Honorable mentions towards Sonic 2 for Game Gear, Sonic Heroes, Knuckles Chaotix, and Sonic Pocket Adventure
>>337681565
That's the fucking point, I was saying that the perception of the other games is completely subjective
I think Lost World was a step in the right direction. If they could improve upon that, I'd think we could get a pretty great game. Also no more of this "boost" shit and bring back classic sonic.
>>337681808
Why not just have a Modern Sonic series and a Classic Sonic series? It appeals to both fans in the long term
>>337681859
Yeah because Sonic 4 wasn't a total flop
>>337681962
But it wasn't, commercially or critically
>>337680924
He's an ugly little fucker.
>>337682060
>First episode received an average 75 score by critics
>Only sold around one million across ALL platforms
>churned out a second episode then stopped the project completely
>not a flop
>>337683762
Try again I guess
>>337680924
Sonic was a mistake, it's nothing but trash.
>>337683949
Kill yourself reddit
>>337683874
"Trying again" isn't going to cut it. Generations saved their sorry asses by appealing to both. Sonic 4 tried the same thing and failed. Unless they make another Generations it's not going to work.
>How do you feel about Sonic?
Hating Sonic is a meme that all spawned around 2010 or so. Don't know why you'd ask the question.
>>337684085
Those who identify as Sonic fans, they sicken me deeply.
>>337684110
Just make a seperate series for Classic and one for Modern
Like each Sonic in generations gets their own game
>>337684237
>Those who identify as Sonic fans, they sicken me deeply.
>>337681962
Maybe if it had all the elements that made the classics good to begin with and was actually good it could've done better.
>>337684238
Nigga if you only appeal to one part of the fanbase each in two games, both will fail because one part won't want to play the other game
>>337684373
That would be Generations.
Sonic 5 is never going to work.
There's plenty of good Sonic games and there's plenty of shit Sonic games but there's always great music, at least in the ones developed by Sega/Sonic Team anyway
I had a dream about sonic passion last night
>>337680924
Eggman and him should be friends again.
>>337680924
stupid mario clone for edgy little fucks
>>337680924
that is some awesome art
>>337684715
>the youtube cuckritic opinion
Deep affection for the SMS games.
You'd think a company would want to treat its mascot a little better, but what do I know.
>>337684208
>Hating Sonic is a meme that all spawned around 2010 or so.
More like 2005 or so when they started pumping out absolute garbage like Shadow the Hedgehog, Sonic 06, and Secret Rings (which only got a pass at launch because it released close to 06).
I don't blame anyone for being cynical about the series considering Sonic Team tossed out the only formula people generally liked in years in favor of cluelessly throwing more garbage at the wall with Lost World.
>>337680924
cartoony sonic is better than modern sonic
Dead for about 20 years.
Good games: Sonic 1, 2, 3 (& Knuckles), CD.
>>337683762
>He thinks an average score and a million sales are a flop.
Yeah, if it doesn't sell as much as a COD or Fifa game, it's a total dip, right? Are you the same anon who just made a thread saying San Andreas was a flop?
I've noticed a lot if anons here using that word to describe games they simply don't like rather than commercial failures as well. Sure, the game isn't all that great, but come on.
>>337684527
This. Pretty much why the fanbase is as bad as it is now, they keep dividing it.
>>337685123
This x1000
>>337684697
I actually had this issue as a kid. The main story was about fighting medusa or something. Sonic Comics were always so weird with very few links between stories.
>>337681003
I'm angry that it turned out like this.
PSA: Sonic's Design hit it's climax with Sonic CD/OVA
>>337684958
I didn't even know there were mega drive versions growing up. I bought a mega drive collection for PS2 and was confused as to why the games on there weren't the games I had played.
>>337685580
Sonic Adventure*
>>337683949 >>337684237
>>337685580
The guys who did those animations _understood_ sonic. No-one's topped it.
Sonic speed!
Only /v/ would have contrarian faggots defend the sonic franchise which is now abysmal while simultaneously shitpost actual good games like uncharted and zelda.
I love sonic. I play it whenever I feel the need to play a really fast platformer. Donkey kong, mario and all of these are great, but they don't really feel the same or have the same rush as sonic.
sanic the hedgeheg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA-4B2d4L18
>>337688079
>stop defending Sonic! Fucking contrarians! Why aren't you agreeing with Arin! Cmon guys! Play Uncharted!
Fuck right off.
cancer
Who is Sonic Team at this point? I know that Sonic Boom was done by a different team, but outside of that, has it always been the same team within Sega pumping these games out?
>>337688158
>>337688079
>>337688564
Is this you?
A character that was part of many childhoods in lighthearted and fun games which now turned into a complete joke. Partially the companies fault.
Either hated by adults or made fun of by autists. And the other side of autists just ruin him and the entire franchise in and of itself which in turn just makes the entire franchise unable to take serious.
>>337688923
>Partially the companies fault.
It's fucking entirely the companies fault. Why do Sonic fans constantly try to shift the blame to everyone besides the people responsible for the games?
>>337688745
>CucoldCommunity
But why? I swear to god reddit is getting more degenerate than 4chins
3 great games that the team that created em failed to understand, and a fuckload of games with everything bad the first three had multiplied 100x and everything good removed.
>>337689136
Reddit sometimes is more degenerate than 4chins, but its hidden and only until the moderation figures out.
Why does every fucking 2D platformer except Sonic have a run button? He accelerates slow as shit.
>>337680924
Stop it with the Sonic threads
He's fucking dead get over it
>>337683126
heres your (you)
>>337688745
>>337681962
>>337684110
>>337683762
Sonic 4 wasn't a "classic" game. 2D doesn't automatically make it "classic", otherwise you might as well call Colors a "classic" game.
>>337690140
>STOP IT!!!
>>337691196
"Hey, let's remove the realistic physics, nobody will miss it if we stuff enough sonic friends!"
>>337691621
>complaining about shit that hasn't exist for almost ten years now
Stop being retarded.
>>337691413
Nobody wants yiik fuck off
>>337684110
> Wonders why Sonic 4 failed.
> Not realizing it wasn't a Classic Sonic game with Classic Sonic physics.
Fuck off. At least read what >>337681859 said in the first place, fucking dumbass. And he's right, btw. If S4 appealed to the right audience correctly, it would have been like this mod did for Episode 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIByy6SMDuc
>>337692012
I'm comparing you to the crying cuck
>>337691821
Sonic 1, 2 and 3 had it.
And they named it sonic 4 and failed at the most basic level.
>>337692238
>reading comprehension
>>337685660
Reminder that Miyazaki was responsible for Eggman
>>337681003
i came here to post this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A0Cx7lCT6E
>>337684958
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDLolaystog
The music was pretty good in those games. Makes me wish we would have gotten a pocket generations for 3DS. Those games were history too damnit.
>>337693243
>Makes me wish we would have gotten a pocket generations for 3DS.
Apparently that's what Generations 3DS was supposed to be, but Sega didn't give Dimps enough time/budget to work on it so we ended up with only 3 (if you're feeling generous, but really it was 1) of the 7 being handheld levels.
>>337684697
>Sonic wasn't always blue but was transformed to look that way by the TUBULARRR-matic that grants RADNESS upon blowing it up
Holy fuck these comics triggered my autism as a kid.
>>337693963
To be fair, that's what Sega of America came up with.
>>337684697
>friction REDUCING
what the fuck
>>337693441
Three? Rush, Colors, and what?
>>337695331
Sonic 1 because it was on GG
OFFICIAL MAIN SERIES TIER LIST
GOD TIER
>Sonic The Hedgehog 3
>Sonic & Knuckles
GREAT TIER
>Sonic The Hedgehog 2
>Sonic Adventure
>Sonic Generations
>Sonic CD
GOOD TIER
>Sonic Adventure 2
>Sonic The Hedgehog
>Shadow The Hedgehog
>Sonic Unleashed
>Sonic Colors
OK TIER
>Sonic Heroes
>Sonic Lost World
WHY TIER
>Sonic The Hedgehog 2006
What's your opinion on Sonic's BTS and ATS' fangames?
>>337689075
>entirely the companies fault
The company cannot be blamed for what happened.
No-one could have forseen what the sonic fandom was to become. No-one could gaze that deeply into the abysmal back then.
>>337688923
>>337689075
>>337697652
Three reasons
>series that is a bunch of colorful cartoon characters with one-sided personalities, it activates the imagination a lot so that leads to the same problem as the MLP fanbase: a bunch of autists loving the series more than anything else and praising it as "deep" and making their own characters and shit
>it's a japanese series trying to come off as something american, giving out very awkward results, which may be fine for the japanese but does not work in the occident, again it attracts autistards the most
>sonic '06 hurt the brand forever
>>337698168
>it's a japanese series trying to come off as something american, giving out very awkward results, which may be fine for the japanese but does not work in the occident
This point is fucking retarded considering Sonic has always been far more popular in American and Europe than Japan, to the extent that Sega curbstomped Nintendo in Europe and pulled roughly even in America. It was only Japan where Nintendo was still ahead of Sega.
BETTER LIST
GOD TIER
>Sonic The Hedgehog 3
>Sonic & Knuckles
GREAT TIER
>Sonic The Hedgehog 2
>Sonic Generations
>Sonic Colors
>Sonic Advance 1
>Sonic Rush
GOOD TIER
>Sonic Adventure
>Sonic The Hedgehog
>Sonic Unleashed
>Sonic CD
>Sonic Advance 2
BAD TIER
>Sonic Advance 3
>Sonic Adventure 2
>Sonic Lost World
>Sonic Heroes
WHY TIER
>Shadow The Hedgehog
URGHBHRHBHBG TIER
>Sonic 06
>Sonic Boom: Rise of my suicidal thoughts
>>337699401
>SA2
>Advance 3
>bad
Hey plebbit
>>337692801
ow thy edge
EVEN BETTER TIER LIST
GOD TIER
>Sonic 3 Complete
>Sonic CD
GREAT TIER
>Sonic 1
OKAY TIER
>Sonic 2
KYS TIER
>Everything else
>>337699515
SA2 took almost everything the first game did right and fucked it hard for no reason (with the exception of multiplayer and chao garden, those were GOAT). Advance 3 was almost good, but bad level design all around killed it.
>>337699737
>sonic CD is good
Where did this meme come from, anyway?
>>337680924
He used to be fast, now he's slow yet desperately tries pretending to be fast.
>>337684958
Just replayed them those last two days. They are actually more enjoyable experiences than the original Genesis game.
>>337699028
I was talking about Adventure & onwards.
Also you seem to have no reading comprehension. I never said that Sonic is more appreciated in Japan. I said that the buttrock radicoolness with cheesy song lyrics & ancient evils is par for the course for Japan but clearly weirder for the Occident.
>>337699401
How can you put Heroes above Shadow? Heroes was a glitchy mess with bad controls and fewer stages that would often be 10+ minutes long.
>>337680924
Why aren't his arms blue?
>>337700190
Atleast heroes sticks to sonic gameplay, Shadow is just a 3rd person shooter
>>337685625
>sonic adventure
get THE FUCK out
YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY:
>>337700019
It came from the fact that the game is actually beautiful and only plebs who want instant satisfaction hate.
>>337700190
Shadow is fucking terrible. Worst control I've experienced in a Sonic game (yes, worse than 06 and Heroes), that stupid fucking replaying mechanic that makes you do dull boring missions over and over to get the true ending, even attempting to have a DURR GRIMDARK PLOT XDDD that somehow ended up even worse than Adventure 2 instead of just avoiding plot altogether like Heroes. Heroes also has marginally better combat. They're both terrible games that you'd have to pay me to ever touch again, though.
>>337700190
>I said that the buttrock radicoolness with cheesy song lyrics & ancient evils is par for the course for Japan but clearly weirder for the Occident.
And yet, still popular in the west. Western fanbase tends to like that shit, while Japan keeps adding shit like human love interests (06) and human slice-of-life shit (X) that the West doesn't care about. So you're still full of shit.
>>337685580
yes, holy shit. sonic's design will never look as amazing as it did in that sonic CD opening. so good.
>>337695904
>>337699401
i'm always surprised at how harsh critics were about sonic unleashed. i know IGN doesn't mean shit, but 4.5 out of 10? come on, man. i think it got panned so much because people thought the werehog thing was stupid (it was silly but for whatever reason i liked it) and at that point they were just tired of the gimmicky sonic stuff at the time, but it's at LEAST a 6 or 7 out of 10. great visuals, great music, and at least half of the game was a lot of fun, while the other half was just okay. it was a polished & well put-together game, which was atypical of a sonic game at the time, really.
>>337700298
Shadow is a better platformer if you ask me.
I really don't see how it is a "shooter" at all. You get guns that work as long-distance attacks (and that make enemies easier to defeat) and that's it. There's the turrets in some levels too I guess. Everything else is pure platforming, except for the couple maze-like ARK levels where it's more about not getting lost.
My complaints about the game are:
>some endings are fucking shit, like Shadow deciding he hates Sonic because they couldn't be bothered to make sense out of the possible story paths leading there
>overall direction is not good, Shadow isn't cooler or edgier than Sonic, just more naive, and the guns & swearing don't work at all (although swearing started in the Japanese version of SA2)
>>337700307
Anon, look at the photo
>>337700936
yes, what is it?
>>337700823
>werehog is shallow as fuck and has no purpose: even if you like it, you have to accept that it's not good by action game standards
>bad performance; 30FPS locked on all platforms and dipped well below that quite frequently on next-gen
>stigma from the complete lack of anything redeemable since the first Adventure
>obnoxious level design on next-gen, and no one gave a shit about the arguably superior Wii/PS2 version (which had its own flaws, certainly)
A modern remake for PC and current gen with better Werehog mechanics would be GOAT, but that's not gonna happen.
>>337701050
Its the original sonic adventure design. A.k.a. Sonic CD sonic but in 3D
>>337701512
>in 3d
there's the problem
Sonic 2 was the first game I ever owned. In some ways, I looked up to Knuckles as a child. Deep down, I will always have a soft spot for this series.
But please Sega, please kill him. It hurts seeing him like this.
>>337701581
>hating classic sonic in 3D
>>337700614
>Worst control I've experienced in a Sonic game (yes, worse than 06 and Heroes),
How?
>that stupid fucking replaying mechanic that makes you do dull boring missions over and over to get the true ending
Start with why they're dull, first. Also, you're not expected to redo the exact same story path to get the second ending of a final level, hence why each level has 2-3 different missions.
>DURR GRIMDARK PLOT XDDD
Yeah it could've been avoided. The fact it led to Sonic '06 is a bigger problem.
>Heroes also has marginally better combat
Heroes combat: "SHIT ROCK EUNGH"
Shadow combat: shoot/homing attack a couple times
both are nothing special, overall combat has always been mediocre in sonic, why is that even a point
>>337700629
Sonic is only more popular in the Occident because of the Genesis games. It's from Adventure onwards that it got anime-tier of bad, and that's what the current OC-making, meme-spouting, porn-drawing fanbase is into.
>>337700823
Werehog was nothing too special.
Daytime stages were great, basically Rush 3D.
But Sonic became a joke after '06 and Unleashed wasn't the great savior that people hoped it would be. The Wii version was only rated better out of spite.
>>337701681
>liking shitty 3d of god like 2d
yeah, you're the problem
>>337701676
Hurts to see him like what? Every title since '06 was decent to great. Not Genesis level of great but certainly enough to keep the series alive & kicking.
Sonic Boom is an experiment that went wrong early on, no impact on the series as a whole.
>>337701408
>werehog is shallow as fuck and has no purpose: even if you like it, you have to accept that it's not good by action game standards
oh i didn't like the werehog levels, i meant that i liked the werehog itself. i thought it was a nice design. it was really out of the left field though, if they really wanted brawler levels they could have just had knuckles fill that role.
>obnoxious level design on next-gen, and no one gave a shit about the arguably superior Wii/PS2 version (which had its own flaws, certainly)
what is it that makes the wii/PS2 version superior? i'm always hearing that the 360/PS3 version is better. i've played the wii version to completion but only bits and pieces of the PS3 version.
>>337698168
mlp is suspect as it was post-internet. But the case can be argued as autism had not fully peaked by that stage.
But you cannot blame SEGA or Disney for the shit their "fandoms" are pulling off (to) these days. I don't accept that the people who made, for example, the Disney Robin Hood, could possibly have known what it would become. You can't plan for that. Pre-internet, most people would live and die without even knowing furries _could_ be a thing.
Same with SEGA. They deliberately set out to made Sonic "cool". But they didn't set out to make him a fetish for autistics and deviants. You can't pin that shit on normies who were just doing their job in 1992.
Nowadays we've got companies like Blizzard explicitly pushing autistic sex bait in games, but they've probably put in limiters and carefully considered the autistic menace before going overboard with the concept. Sega never had that luxury. They created sonic, but they've had to suffer as it becomes a warning for everyone else.
He is pretty cool.
>>337701682
>Sonic is only more popular in the Occident because of the Genesis games.
The fanbase that actually played the Genesis games as children is in their early 30s. You're delusional if you don't think there's a lot of nostalgia from adults who grew up with the Adventure-era games.
>>337701924
Wii has better level design (most apparent in Crimson Carnival, that level takes ten years on next-gen), simplified hubs, and better performance (it sticks to its lock much more consistently than the next-gen, slowdown is mostly limited to boss fights rather than almost constantly). I've played through the game on X360 and Wii(with a gamecube controller) within one year of each other, and I just preferred the Wii version despite its numerous flaws. The boost mechanics in the Wii version are awful though.
