>start trying to get into JRPGs because I feel like I'm missing out on the stories
>realize they're all just shitty cliched stories that have been told and told better at least hundreds of times in anime and manga
>the only reason to play these games is for the story because the actual "gameplay" is an autism simulator
>they fail in the one thing they should be good at
Why the fuck would I force myself through hours of this shit if I could read the same story with different characters in a manga? JRPGs are fucking garbage, holy shit.
Did you really take the time out of your day to write all of that? Really?
>>337676427
>that have been told and told better at least hundreds of times in anime and manga
That's what weebs like you actually believe.
I too never really got why JRPGs are popular.
Turn based combat really just does not have that many options open to it. I find myself just using "Best Attack" 95% of the time.
It's basically a really slowed down version of a beat em up game. I just mash the same attack move over and over til the health bars are gone. But I have to do it one turn at a time.
The few games that have those special type of moves they still don't come into play much. Bosses, the only strong foes you'd need to use those special moves on, are either unaffected by them or it's easier to just brute force your way through them.
gooks no know how make good rpg
>>337676725
>just using "Best Attack" 95% of the time
>slowed down version of a beat em up game
>I just mash the same attack move over and over til the health bars are gone
Well done. You just described most games you fucking pleb
>>337676605
It's fact, not opinion. These generic ass stories can be, and have been told in 12 episodes of an anime totalling 5 hours of doing nothing but watching, vs the average JRPG where you have to spend 50 hours doing autistic shit just to see the story.
>>337677134
It isn't just about the story anon. That's why most of /v/ hates games like Uncharted 4. If JRP's are so generic and shit why don't you enlighten us with a "good game" that has a "good story".
>>337677134
Oh yeah, just watch the Danganronpa anime and see what a masterpiece that was
>>337677285
he is just going to recommend W/CRPG which have worst and more garbage and simplistic gameplay and stories by far.
>>337676725
Play SMT you cunt
>>337676964
>You just described most gamesthat's the point. video games are bland trash as a whole. no one genre sucks, they all do.
except puzzle and arcade games dough, those will always be great
>>337677542
You could say that about any medium as they all follow the same tropes. If you dislike games so much then why the fuck are you even here?
>>337677134
Japanese storytelling is modern Greek drama. The Greeks did not care much for original stories. The enjoyment was really out of experiencing how the playwright interpreted one story differently from other playwrights.
>>337677750
>If you dislike games so much then why the fuck are you even here?
this is /v/ - video games right? I thought this was the place to shit on trashy games
>>337677803
>mfw there are no good places to discuss games
-without autists foaming at the mouth and shitting everywhere...
>>337677753
Yes because being McPerfect the guy who can literally talk badguys into killing themselves in a WRPG is so original.
>>337677897
>>mfw there are no good places to discuss games
have you tried talking to your close friends about the various games that interest you?
>>337677753
This
It's all in the presentation and style and Japs are absolutely unrivaled
>>337677942
Exactly his point
>>337677285
But it is about the story, what's the fun in a turn-based autistic numbers simulator?
I think the Metal Gear Solid franchise has a good story, and it's only made better by having a game that's fun to play to go along with it. JRPGs are fucking boring menu-selecting grindfests. At least when I play visual novels I know I'm just going to be reading a story, JRPGs have you doing the same thing except they try to trick you into playing the game longer by adding in the autistic """""gameplay""""
>>337677418
Are you implying Danganronpa is a JRPG?
>>337678093
No it's not but it clearly shows how games are often better suited for some stories simply because they have a longer runtime
>>337678093
I enjoy MGS as much as the next guy, but its gameplay is fucking atrocious.
Every game gets you to do the same shit over and over, some are just better at fooling you into thinking you're not.
>>337677961
>talking to friends about video games
Even sucking their dicks and taking their cum on your face would be less gay
>>337677508
This
>>337678445
Except it wouldn't be less gay though would it. At all...
>>337678219
That was never in debate, though. Of course you're going to get more out of a story with a 50 hour visual novel than a 10 hour anime. The problem is with JRPGs there's only about 5 hours or less of actual story and the rest is autistic gameplay
>>337678439
At least it's an actual game instead of a menu simulator.
>>337677134
What are you gonna say next, that Evangelion is a deep and meaningful cartoon?
These neckbeards, I swear.
>>337678620
>At least it's an actual game instead of a menu simulator
>menu simulator
Where the fuck do you think games started?
That's why you ignore most of them since they are pretty shit and just play the actually good ones that are more than mindless fights and over the top plots.
The first step is playing SMT, SaGa and some Ys (though that's more action-adventure), maybe the Tales Of games if you want some real time fun.
>>337678620
No
There are JRPGs with well over 10 hours of cutscenes alone
Let's say you wanna translate that into an anime, you'd need all the cutscenes, important battles and some more side stuff to show and you have a 50 episodes long production on your hands already
I mean if for example someone or even better SE themselves were to do a 50 episode CG anime of FFX I'd be incredibly happy but anything less than that would probably ruin it
>>337676427
Name 10 good swords and sorcery anime/manga that aren't:
A) Trapped in the game/mmo
B) Not trapped in the game/mmo but the world operates off "mechanics" that are similar to game/mmo (danmachi, grimgar)
C) Parody
That's one niche the JRPG fills.
Now before we get to the combat aspect, keep in mind most (good) post-Chrono Trigger games have engaging gameplay outside of combat.
This isn't limited to minigames but includes skill development, and exploration. It's kind of like a collectable card-game like YGO in terms of the customization aspect; lots of fun in the game comes from building the deck even though you can wipe the floor with enemies in combat.
Now as far as the combat is concerned it's dependent upon the game that you're playing. The design decision here is that the first 3 hours is built around the story and difficulty is such that they're assuming you've never played a game before. The first 5 hours is almost always built around the idea that you're familiar with games, but not the genre.
And some are smart enough to keep adding gameplay elements up to 40 hours in.
Anyway, I've seen my 22 year old casual GF die in FFX before hitting the first save. That's who the beginning of these games are catered to. That's unfortunately who they have to be catered to.
But dig deeper. Usually towards the end of the game shit gets more in-depth and the glory of the JRPG are the endgame sidequests and superbosses.
And ofc that only covers turn-based (traditional at that)
Give me a list of JRPGs you've played and hated and a list of non-JRPGs you've played and loved OP and I'll see if I can throw some suggestions your way.
gendo did nothing wrong
Cute grills
>>337679230
Don't forget about Neptunia.
JRPGs are garbage because in every fucking game you have to play as some faggot who makes retarded decisions.
>>337676558
>Triggered
