>it came out exactly 10 years ago
>>337661598
>4 releases in 10 years
>all on separate hardware
>only 1 failed to bring new things to the table, and was panned for it properly
>last entry was absolutely fantastic with the visual design, level design, powerup balance, and cool as fuck overworld map
>/v/ cries rehash
TIME, STOP GOING FORWARD
>>337661841
While they could have always been better, they it was always a solid competent series. Both NSMBW and NSMBU (and NSLU by extension) especially are very top notch, and when played in multiplayer especially. I always liked them adding in the moves like wall jumping and ground pounds to the 2D moveset.
>>337661598
I don't believe this bullshit
fucking stop
If it's been that long it means children have forgotten about Super Mario Galaxy
FEEL OLD YET
>DS Lite and this game got me back into vidya 10 years ago
And I'm no longer a b&as of today. Time flies, huh?
Children born in the year 2000 are 16.They've likely already have engaged in sexual intercourse before you have.
>>337661598
It was terrible, the nostalgiafags gushed, and there hasn't been a good Mario game since.
>>337663461
>and there hasn't been a good Mario game since.
Galaxy was just next year after NSMB anon.
>>337663675
Yes, it was.
>>337661598
What a coincidence. Mario went to shit 10 years ago.
>>337663915
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOGcdKXbvH0
>mfw an underage b& deleted his post
>>337661598
I'm not sure if this caused the increase of autism or is a consecuence Ninendo made because of it.
2D mario died the moment they added wall clings/ wall jumps. There are plenty of other problems, but this mechanic destroys the series for what it was
>>337663915
You're one of those faggots that thinks sunshine was the pinnacle of the series aren't you
>>337664067
How?
And little did we know this game would come out every year for the next 10 years.
>>337663376
I'm 22 and I'm pretty sure my brother is doing exactly that and he's 16, feels bad.
old super mario bros
>>337664635
Are you kidding?
Because it makes falling down pits almost impossible. which was half the difficulty of 2D Mario before NSMB
>>337661841
>>last entry was absolutely fantastic with the visual design, level design, powerup balance, and cool as fuck overworld map
________ can do nothing wrong
>>337661598
>NSMB can now officially be called nostalgic
I don't like this ride!
>>337664943
>can do no wrong
>>"only 1 failed to bring new things to the table, and was panned for it properly"
dumb frogposter
>>337665209
A new power up does not equal a new and good game
Crap tier Mario btw
>>337664919
>SMB3's Tanooki
>SMW'S FUCKING CAPE
>>337665307
No, but completely new levels, world design and layout, and a new artstyle do. NSMBU has those things, frogposter.
>>337664067
thats not possible
it stole that mechanic from a superior platformer series
>>337664919
also this is irrelevant because if you actually play any of the NSMB games any area where bottomless pits are a threat very rarely have any walls you can cling to easily to save yourself and even then Mario's jump always has relatively weak horizontal force and not enough control once you're in the air in 2D games so unless its a small gap the walls generally won't even matter
also a lot of 2D marios have powerups that just let you fly or float anyway
>>337663017
same here. Had major depression, started curing it, got my ds fixed, got an R4 card for it (this year), started enjoyed the shit out of that, realized I have to buy a 3ds. Spent more hours and money on the games there than on pc or any other console.
>>337665381
2 powerups that you dont always have and require you to build up speed are nothing like wall clings that you can always do.
you might be retarded
>>337665384
>No, but completely new levels, world design and layout, and a new artstyle do
So might as well just talk about rom hacks if that's the only thing that needs to be changed
>NSMBU has those things
Okay, I see now that I'm not just spouting memes. Actually buyer's remorse. Nothing rational comes from people like that.
bowser's skin melting off always seemed really macabre for a mario game
>>337661841
>NSMB - DS (rehash of old games)
>SMG - Wii (fresh concept)
>NSMBW - Wii (rehash of NSMB)
>SMG2 - Wii (rehash of SMG with worse level design)
>SM3DL - 3DS (fresh concept)
>NSMB2 - 3DS (barely improved sequel)
>NSMBU - Wii U (rehash of NSMB2)
>NSLU - Wii U (rehash of NSMBU with no innovations)
>SM3DW -Wii U (vastly improved rehash of SM3DL)
>SMM - WII U (just an official romhack toolset, so not a fresh concept)
Yeah, what an innovative series. It's not stagnant at all!
Huh, neat.BAH BAH
>>337665884
>>NSMB - DS (rehash of old games)
Wrong, has more new stuff in it than SMB3 and World combined.
>>NSMBU - Wii U (rehash of NSMB2)
Also wrong. I doubt you've so much as seen screenshots of NSMBU, let alone ever played it.
>>337665541
>that you don't always have
I should've just stopped and told you were a cretin to begin with if you seriously think pitfalls are "half the difficult of 2D Mario" but now you're really pushing being a moron especially when those two games shit those out the ass for you.
the worst thing is how this bland shit started infecting the 3d series
>and for fans of 3d mario we have three green stars to collect in every level!!!
>most of them require you to do the exact same shit you did to get medals in NSMB
>>337665884
They're pretty obviously just talking about New Super Mario Bros. And wasn't Luigi U a DLC add-on originally, that they just decided to let you purchase stand-alone?
>loli you fapped to 11 years ago are all grown up now
>>337661598
>I haven't even 100% it yet
>>337666076
Possibly, I only got it recently so I don't know it's history.
>>337666027
>Wrong, has more new stuff in it than SMB3 and World combined.
It's still just a nostalgia-targeting rehash of 'em mate. Like, I enjoyed the fuck out of it and appreciate the multiplayer (it's only real innovation), but it is what it is.
>Also wrong. I doubt you've so much as seen screenshots of NSMBU, let alone ever played it.
I've 100% it m8
>>337666032
even if you always have them, they don't save you from falling down pits like wall jumping would
I dont know how dense you have to be to not understand how different they are from wall jumping
>>337666182
Cartoons don't age you spastic fag
>>337666063
3D World is better than literally all of the other 3D Mario games, keep your memes and shit taste to yourself.
>>337664832
Are you me?
>>337666063
Also don't forget that they are the only form of challenge in that game, and even then 99% of that game was a fucking cake walk.
I really hope that if Nintendo does another 3D world styled game or really any new Mario game they do what happened with DK:TF make the first two worlds relatively easy, and then actually make decent jumps in difficulty throughout the entire game, instead of making the last bonus world the only semi challenging part of your game.
>this entire thread
where did it all go wrong bros ;_;
>>337665884
>>SMG2 - Wii (rehash of SMG with worse level design)
>remember getting that as a birthday gift on releaseI'm finally old enough to post here, where the fuck does the time go?
>>337666938
It's the truth m8
It barely innovated mechanically, and had far less enoyable or memorable levels.
>>337666581
How sort of easy it is to make a 2D mario game for Nintendo. The sales for each mainline Mario game probably being the most per console. Mario being arguably the largest video game IP.
There are changes here and there but ever since it went polygonal it stayed in a set path, and since it makes Nintendo the most money it is a super lucrative incentive to put one on every console and if they can, more than one.
I really wish that SMM had more, I understand Nintendo didn't want to overwhelm people, but including the ability to string levels together into worlds, and then including enemies like chargin chucks, the sun, etc. on launch would've probably made me never stop playing that game.
Maybe with SMM2 they'll be able to include everything that was in those games, hell maybe even a SM2 palette so you could get phanto's or some crazy shit.
>>337667047
I'm honestly curious to see why you feel that way. I mean I think it's fine to prefer Galaxy 1 over Galaxy 2, but one thing that most people prefer Galaxy 2 over 1, is the increase in challenge the game overall had, and the bigger amount of variety it also had in comparison.
>>337667253
I'll never, ever understand why they didn't continue adding enemies, level themes, and mechanics to SMM. Even for paid DLC. Like, why? They had only to gain, and nothing to lose.
I was born in 1990 and played Super Mario World on SNES a lot, but never really got into it.
This game on the other hand...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_W2qhzoWSM
Or is this not a Mario thread and I'm wasting my time?
>>337666450
>and here's our brand new gameplay concept for this game, transparent pipes!
>wow incredible creativity how do you do it EAD Tokyo better than every 3D Mario!!!
and ten years later, the only good game in the NSMB series is NSMBU
such a shame
DS is the only one I liked
>>337666468
they'll never do that because they're determined to keep mario as sanitized as possible so that grandma, little timmy and the lapsed 40 year old salaryman who hasn't touched a game since SMB3 can play and finish their latest installment
>>337661841
>last entry was absolutely fantastic with the visual design, level design, powerup balance, and cool as fuck overworld map
Not really. NSMBU is visually nice-looking, but as a game it's underwhelming. NSMB could get away with being half-assed because it was the first 2D Mario game in a long time. NSMBW could get away with being half-assed because it was the first 2D Mario game on a home console for 18 years and the simultaneous multiplayer made it worthwhile.
There's no excuse for NSMB2 and NSMBU being so by-the-numbers and aesthetically safe. 2D Mario now gets passed off to a C-team dev with no talent instead of having love and care put into it.
>>337667508
The sky was literally the fucking limit for them, they could've rolled out so much post release content, and I would've fucking eaten it up so damn fast.
They put this game out way too late in the life cycle for the WiiU and probably didn't think it was going to be as big of a hit it was to warrant updates.
If you can recall to 1-2 year old interviews about it, the game was bare as fuck. Barely any info about online sharing and no indication of it even going to exist in the product. Then there was the kerfuffle of people asking nonstop "are the mechanics going to change with the layouts" and given answers that were basically "we don't know".
Like, if Nintendo released this game AT LAUNCH the WiiU probably would've been saved, or at the very least not have bombed this fucking hard. Like naming the damn console the WiiU was the biggest mistake, but SMM literally vindicated the whole fucking gamepad. Then, even if it came out in the same state it was at launch last year. THAT'S 3+ YEARS of possible support. A reason for your main gimmick of your console, and a game that can be fucking expanded on INTO INFINITE, and a user base that is so hungry for new content that you could probably fucking CHARGE FOR EVERYTHING.
It's fucking atrocious how bad Nintendo dropped the ball.
>>337668140
I understand that, which is why I really really want a SMM2 that has EVERYTHING in it.
>>337668336
weird thing is one of the guys responsible for NSMB 2 which is probably the worst entry later helped creating splatoon
so there's creative talent behind the games but it looks like they're purposefully limiting themselves
>>337661841
>>last entry was absolutely fantastic with the visual design, level design, powerup balance, and cool as fuck overworld map
The map was nice but the world design was so paint by numbers. Giant cakes are neat until you realize it's the same desert world from Wii to the letter.
They don't even have to get super creative with this shit. Sonic didn't have a desert level until the third game.
>>337668762
I really really enjoy the thought of a dev team being taught by Miyamoto putting limiters on. Then when Miyamoto threatens them to make another Mario game, or Mario tie in game they go super Saiyan or some shit and fucking make magic.
>>337668840
Didn't they all have an ancient flooded zone, a mechanical zone, and a zone with lots of lights?
>>337664107
It was
>>337666182
>fapping to loli
>>337671739
>5 years since dubs were removed from /v/
what went wrong guys
