It's inevitable.
The NX is going to fail, and Nintendo will come to their senses and ditch hardware to begin releasing their games to Xbox and PS4 as a third party.
You know it to be true, /v/.
I don't even want nintendo games on my ps4. Nintendo games suck now
>>337650056
The handhelds are for sure dead. Nintendo and everyone else has no choice but to go mobile.
No telling what they will do console wise if the NX does fail.
The NX is going to be the exact same hardware in different form factors.
>>337650056
No they wont
Doomed since 1889.
>>337650056
>Nintendo
>Learning
The nips don't like embracing change so until the old bastards that run the company are all dead nothing will change.
>>337650056
PS5*
I would actually be perfectly fine with 3rd party nintendo games.
Fuck I'd bet they'd make even more then they do now.
hoping for this ever since i broke free and my bro wanted a dvd player. based ps2.
>>337652239
When you're a large company like Tendo 250mil is a best case scenario for hard losses. I know this is a bad comparison but Sony lost 5.7 billion in 2011 and 2.8 of that was the fault of the Playstation's division.
>>337650303
>The handhelds are for sure dead
Literally... what?
If Nintendo decided to go full 3rd party they would become PC exclusive. They would not publish on Sony or Microsoft consoles. They would launch their own platform for PC.
>>337650303
>The handhelds are for sure dead
Um, No they're not. The 3DS is selling gangbusters.
>>337654717
It's more likely they'd become mobile. They're already planning their exit strategy into becoming a mobile producer in the event the NX bombs. What you're not going to see is anything like an AAA big box title that requires Master Race-tier computing power.
For better or for worse, Nintendo operates under the assumption that video games are toys.
>>337650056
The [SNES] is going to fail, and Nintendo will come to their senses and ditch hardware to begin releasing their games to [Saturn] and [Playstation] as a third party.
i honestly think microsoft has a higher chance of leaving the console market than nintendo
>>337650264
Maybe if Nintendo shifted all of their focus to their software, they might put out better games. I'm not holding my breath, though.
>>337654982
So hows Sonic Boom treating you?
>>337650056
The NX is going to enjoy Nintendo's first dedicated gaming handheld monopoly since 2004. It will do alright.
It's true they probably have enough money to release poorly selling consoles for the next 6 generations and survive, but why would they want to? Sooner or later it just isn't going to be feasible to continue release hardware people don't want, and hoping things will change with the next one
>>337652939
They would but Hyper nintendrones are greedy little cock suckers who refuse to let nintendo to succeed
Luckly Nintendi never listens to there fanbase so its inevitable at this point for them to go 3rd party
>>337654717
>This is what delusional PC faggots believe
>>337655023
Were you even born in the 20th century?
>>337650056
the Pokémon company (owned by Nintendo) made over 2 billion last year.
Nintendo isn't going anywhere.
>>337655591
'89. Were you you?
NX will fail and we (the consumers) will be blamed for it.
>>337655657
I was born in '86. You just compared the SNES to the Saturn and Playstation. By the time those systems were out the Super Nintendo was a big success.
>>337655023
>Nintendo is as big a player now as it was in the SNES days
>nothing has changed in the past 20 years
>toymaking company moving to software only
>when their handhelds are best selling consoles period
>when even their half-baked ideas like amiibos sell pretty well, apparently better than a similar product by Disney
>when everyone spelled their doom for good 100 years, yet it didn't come
>Wanting Nintendo to go third party
>Not realizing they will become publisher of smaller devs
>now Nintendo can censor any game, not just ones on their system.
>>337650303
the handhelds would be the only hardware worth continuing if the NX failed actually.
What is even the point of shitty threads like these? You're dumber than professional analysts, which is saying something.
When something bad happens, then it'll be interesting to talk about, and not while it's baseless speculation.
>>337650264
Nintendo games would theoretically improve if they were to exclusive to PS, because they would have to compete with 3rd party for the first time again in the last decade.
No more Nintendo console bubble to be isolated in.
The NX handheld and the NX console are the same device in different cases.
That's how they share the same games, that's how the development teams have been unified, and that's how they avoid making one hybrid device.
>WII U HAS NOTHING BUT SHIT FOR GAMES! NINTENDO HAS GONE TO SHIT! MODERN NINTENDO GAMES ARE GARBAGE!
>... but anyway, when am I gonna finally get to play Mario? I don't wanna buy a Wii U, but I wanna play the fun games it has.
I WANT UNDERAGE TO LEAVE
>>337657385
This people claim Nintendo products having nothing worth owning for their consoles yet we have constant hopeless Nintendo go third party threads.
DOOMED SINCE 1889
But then all we'd be stuck with is mobile shit for handheld games.
>own Wii U, 3DS, etc
>like Nintendo games
>see all the retarded decisions they've been making in the last 1-2 years
>don't want to support Nintendo anymore
>start to realize that naysayers actually make sense sometimes
Never thought the day would arrive.
Do you guys really want to live in a world where -this- is the face of handheld gaming?
>>337658341
>mfw you don't actually own a 3DS and Wii U
>>337650056
>Nintendo will come to their senses and ditch hardware to begin releasing their games to Xbox and PS4 as a third party.
they will rather skip 1 gen or 2 and enjoy the handheld monopoly
>>337650056
>The N64 is going to fail, and Nintendo will come to their senses and ditch hardware to begin releasing their games to PS as a third party.
>The GameCube is going to fail, and Nintendo will come to their senses and ditch hardware to begin releasing their games to Xbox and PS2 as a third party.
>The Wii is going to fail, and Nintendo will come to their senses and ditch hardware to begin releasing their games to Xbox360 and PS3 as a third party.
everytime
All they got to do is stop selling is peripheral based consoles.
Games speak for themselves when they're just good, Star Fox Zero is fucking atrocious to play out of the box.
>>337652239
like you people are fucking retarded
many businesses could fail to make money for a long time, but that doesnt mean they are going to continue to compete in a market that has no place for them just so they can keep losing money
>>337656151
>>when even their half-baked ideas like amiibos sell pretty well, apparently better than a similar product by Disney
Infinity problem was market saturation and bad management, how the fuck a game like Infinity required a fucking 300 people studio?
>>337658935
Fun Fact: Nintendo relies on creating new markets.
So far they are making toys, cards, hardware, and software. Nothing has changed besides the last few decades of video games.
>>337658935
>many businesses could fail to make money for a long time, but that doesnt mean they are going to continue to compete in a market that has no place for them just so they can keep losing money
fun fact, Nintendo has ever only lose money 2 years out of the 30 years they been on the bussiness. and those 2 years (2013 and 2014) together were less than what they did in 2011
Nintendo never been on the red on a generation.
Meanwhile PS3 was a 5 Billions red sink hole, and I think XB been in read since its born
>>337654586
>SONY losing money because of playstation
lies
>>337650056
There's no point in buying Nintendo games anymore. Every single one of their flagship franchises has gone to shit, and even Splatoon would be a shit franchise to put on an other console.
>>337659189
better be bait
>>337659223
Will you guys stop baiting? Somebody might believe this.
>>337659223
>and even Splatoon would be a shit franchise to put on an other console.
>>337659327
>TPS that requires high mobility and verticality
>with a thumbstick for aiming
pick one and prove you're not a shit-eater
>>337652939
>Fuck I'd bet they'd make even more then they do now.
What's the reasoning for this?
You're talking about taking away a big source of revenue, forcing them to completely restructure the company from the inside out, and then putting them into an environment in which they have less understanding of the systems they're working on. That seems like it would translate into fewer games to me.
I suppose going multiple could make up for the lost revenue from hardware sales but I think the rest would leave him hurting for a while afterwards.
>>337659050
yeah and how well is that working for them? the wii sold simply because it was a fad for casuals. every other one of their consoles has been selling less and less. the wii u is such a giant flop its not even been out for 5 years and they already want to ditch it. thats pretty telling of their place in the market at the moment
>>337659148
sony and microsoft are much, much bigger than nintendo could ever hope to be. they can afford to take hits in their console sales. also the ps4 and ps2 are so massive it doesnt matter that the ps3 was a sinkhole
also i like how you both replied to me with fun fact.
>>337659624
>>with a thumbstick for aiming
>pick one and prove you're not a shit-eater
>the most popular among S raked player is gyro aiming
any other stupid question?
>>337659624
>he's not using gyro
>>337659778
>You're talking about taking away a big source of revenue
hun im no expert but im pretty sure the wiiu sold like trash and was nothing more than a waste of money
>>337659781
>>yeah and how well is that working for them?
See this:
>>337652239
>Nintendo has banked so much money that they could lose over $250 million every year and still survive until 2052
It seems to have worked out pretty well.
>>337659781
point is, Nintendo never been a single gen on the red, as long as this trend continues, other than a broken spirit, they have no reason no to try the console market again and again and again till something sticks
Nintendo is gonna burn nice and slow. They obviously saw the shitty performance of the wii u but the success of their games.
Within 40 years Nintendo will still be in the ring while Playstation and Xbox will be relics.
>>337659902
They're still making cash from handhelds, and as far as consoles go, the Wii U has been the only one thus far to bomb quite so hard. If that level of performance becomes the norm for them, then yeah, it'd probably be best for them to just stick to making handhelds and forget about consoles, but I think we would at least have to wait and see how the NX turns out to make that call.
I don't even have anything against Nintendo making multiplatform titles. It would definitely be easier on my wallet so no complaints here. I just have my doubts they would remain the same sort of company and produce the same sort of games at the same frequency.
>>337650056
people have literally been predicting this since shortly after the NES came to the states.
it ain't happening in your lifetime
>>337650056
Didn't people say this about the Wii U?
>>337658447
Stop lying to yourself, anon, we already do.
>>337660427
Yes. And the Wii. And the Gamecube. And the N64. And the Virtual Boy.
Heck, there were people claiming that Nintendo wouldn't survive the inevitable failure of the NES. It's like a broken record of ineffectual hate and rage.
On the other hand, there were predictions that the PS2 and PS3 would fail and that the PlayStation brand would be tarnished too badly for the PS4 to exist, so there's that.
I think we can all agree that hating a video game company to the point where you want to see it fail is pointless and retarded. Right?
>>337660845
>I think we can all agree that hating a video game company to the point where you want to see it fail is pointless and retarded. Right?
Anyone with half a brain should be able to. Console warriors don't have half a brain, though.
I mean, I dislike the current state of things at Nintendo but as someone who likes video games, I don't want them dead. I just want them to get their acts together and do things right.
Trying to predict the future is a fool's errand.
SPECIALLY when talking about a company that work with random bullshit like nintendo.
To be more specific, nintendo is an horrible company that sometimes gets fucking lucky as fuck and rides the lucky wave the best they can, so, its impossible to predict if they will make it and how, as at any moment they may find the next game freak or release the next virtual boy.
>>337650056
>>337652939
Video games are the way they are now because of Nintendo's innovation. Ever since the crash they've been the only ones to make major advances to video game console interfacing, from the d-pad to shoulder buttons to integrated analog sticks to gyroscopes to touch screen integration. You people are asking for endless stagnation on this front by removing Nintendo from the console hardware picture.
>inb4 Mr. This Milton Bradley Sheet Of Plastic Is Totally A D-Pad Guize!
NINTENDOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED
>>337661197
Actually there are several Mr. Milton Bradley stuff of plastics that nintendo copied.
But they're the only ones doing it, and they ran out of MB material around 2000 or so.
Milton bradley dying in 1984 actually condemned gaming innovation itself to die.
>>337661434
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED
>>337650056
I'll stop playing video games entirely if this happens
>>337661471
>this fucking autist again
>>337661489
>>337661434
The more things change, the more they stay the same. You can practically do a terminology/date swap and the arguments would sound identical.
>>337652239
>using DYKG as a source
I like nintendo but holy shit
>>337661489
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED
>>337661547
Eh kinda.
I recognize the importance of nintendo even if technically speaking they didn't invented much, and i think they should have another good source to keep doing the nintendo thing, but sadly i don't think there's any.
And sony or microsoft DEFINITIVELY can't into milton bradleing the fuck out of it.
I dislike Nintendo games, so I don't care.
Also buying Wii U for Bayonetta 2 was a mistake.
>>337661197
Frankly controllers were pretty much as good as they ever needed to be when the dualshock hit. Everything afterwards was just refinement and then little oddities like touch pads and motion controls which I think the industry could have lived without.
Besides, pretending changes to controllers are the only changes that matter is silly. Nintendo was the one lagging behind when it came to innovations like CDs/DVDs/Blurays, online gaming, digital distribution, etc.
>>337661805
>Frankly controllers were pretty much as good as they ever needed to be when the Genesis controller hit. Everything afterwards was just refinement and then little oddities like shoulder buttons and analog sticks which I think the industry could have lived without.
This is what you sound like. Think about it.
>>337661750
>Mario Monks, you are all stupid Suckers... (1996)
>Nintendrones, you are all stupid Cucks... (2016)
>The NX is going to fail
I remember people saying the same thing about the Revolution.
>>337661471
>>337661753
Did you ever wonder why no one on the entire planet Earth besides you keeps bringing this Milton Bradley thing up?
the Wii U's failure was trying to catch lightning in a bottle twice and most people didn't even know what it was, and initially thought it was an add-on to the Wii. If it had a better name, and better marketing then this wouldn't even be up
I don't hate Nintendo, but they don't make anything I like anymore. I grew up idort but all my favorite Nintendo series are dead. Now I just live off jrpgs and other Japanese stuff.
>>337661489
What the fuck. This is just like reading /v/ today.
>>337650056
I love how Sonyggers and Xbots are so thirsty for games that they want the same games they call "kiddie shit rehashes" on their consoles.
>>337661601
>>337662117
Very few of us indeed do bring it up, and most that do are just for autismwhine on how the story is not correct.
But i think its deeper than just "WAH NINTENDO STEALS AND DON'T DESERVE THE FAME".
Is more like "nintendo needs a sparring partner that is very fucking creative so they can compete with it and improve and push things forward".
>>337662223
>>337662279
>those Microsoft numbers
>>337662201
Again, I remember people saying that the Revolution was going to fail because the Gamecube was a failure.
Trends are not law, and comparing consoles from multiple generations solely based on units sold completely ignores macroeconomic factors.
>>337661601
>lol maybe if i post these bait pictures nintendo will start making games for MY console!!!!!!
>>337661950
Maybe I'm downplaying the role of motion controls too much, I might just be biased against them because 90% of the application of things like that are just gimmicky and don't add much to the game. If more people used them to do things like make FPS's more playable on consoles I'd probably be agreeing that they are important.
Either way, doesn't change the fact that controllers aren't the only possible way to innovate.
>>337650056
I agree.
>>337662367
>Very few of us
>us
>>337662279
They have now less than 5 billion in cash. Another PiiU and they will be going in debt.
>>337662561
I'm not the autist that did that collage picture with "everything that nintendo did is made by someone else", which make at least two.
>>337662223
Motherfucker, I've been playin Nintendo games since before you were even born and I can gaurantee I've criticized them more than Sony or Micro fans ever will. Nintendo is fucking stagnant right now because of their reliance on gimmicks and their casual agenda.
Nintendo earned their "kiddie" label through their own actions. Though I dont agree with the actual usage the Sonyggers and Xbots use. I prefer to say It's their refusal to change, their refusal to produce new IP's that dont operate like ultra safe "we're not taking risks" spinoffs. Their refusal to play the hardware game anymore thinking they have a fucking special snowflake position in the industry WHICH THEY DONT! Their reliance on gimmicks, their rampant casualization. It's a fucking laundry list.
Nintendo sits on the biggest threshold of potential IP's in both 1st and 3rd parties, yet what do they do? FUCKING MARIO #94346153653.
FUCK YOU Nintendrone, you fucking corporate nut gobbling prolapse abortion. I criticize Nintendo because I want them to be fucking awesome again.
>>337650056
>/v/
do not speak for every one nintodler
>>337662645
>gimmme FUCKING MARIO #94346153653 on my PSFOUR PLEEEEEEEASE
>>337662736
>I didnt read it! they criticized my precious MODERN Nintendo so they must be sony wiggers
Fucking kill yourself drone.
>>337662640
No but tell me, who is this "us"? Is there some sort of Milton Bradley group on Facebook or Tumblr or some shit? Some secret Milton Bradley kabbal made up of autists that meet in an abandoned basement and perform rituals and shit? A Milton Bradley sect of Scientology or some religious cult dedicated to preserving the ancient Milton Bradley truth? WHO THE FUCK IS THIS "US"?!
>>337662279
>Microsoft in the red
Fuck dude, has Xbox been on life support this whole time?
Is this why Rare received lashes and made kinect games? Why Ensemble got shut down? Why Lionhead got shut down? Why the Xbone was a underpowered piece of shit wannabe cable box?
Does this explain everything?
I have questions and need answers, /v/
>>337662770
Do you see what this thread is about? It's not "criticizing Nintendo" it's about wanting them to go third party. Aka, I want their shitty rehashes but I don't want to buy their consoles.
>>337654586
>Sony
no shit, it's a wonder that sony even exists as a company today.
Nintendo will be fine, don't you worry
Worry about the fate of playstation with 4 being the last one and going over to become an on-demand service and microsoft closing the doors on the xbox and merging it to pc.
>>337662595
>memeing this hard
kek
>>337663153
Yes, that's a criticism based on their failures, which is what I posted about. Read between the lines kiddo.
>>337652939
Yeah the way sega did so well. Remember the last good sonic game?
>>337663242
How old are you?
>>337663178
Lmao day nintendelusion. Remember insisting for years there would never be a ps4? Looks like that worked out for ya huh?
>>337655807
He's right though, all the media talks about is how Nintendo is going to crash and burn and go third party. It's literally happened since SNES and it still hasn't happened 20 years later.
>>337662279
and this is why you don't look at only units sold
seriously though, does anyone know what happened in 2002-2003 to get Nintendo profits almost equal to Sony's during that year? What was going on then? Was it just games like Windwaker?
>>337663312
stay classy neo/v/
>>337663459
>Windwaker
>>337663012
Anyone that knows about the milton bradley truth.
>>337662279
>those ps3 numbers
BUT MUH NINTENDO GOING UNDER
>>337662431
>facts are bait
This post has been graced with the official Nintendo seal.
>>337663109
The Xbone is an enginneering blunder.
Shoving 32MB of SRAM in the main die that made the chip unmanufacturable until they crippled the GPU to fit.
If they did put the SRAM on a daughter die just like they did with the 360, and did the main die have the same size, it would completely ANIHILATE PS4 in performance.
>>337663517
so you don't know? you're just mad that windwaker exists? even after all this time?
>>337663459
Nah there was probably more, but what's probably more true is that Nintendo very rarely sells a console at a loss. While they've sold shit all Wii Us and lost money on them, they always make money from everything they sell.
I love Nintendo and think they build quality hardware, but I do know that they're charging me more than what it's worth, but the games are just too good to pass up.
>>337663770
I was going to ask you why the hell they would do that, and then I remembered that the 360 read discs with what, a needle? And that it pretty much melted. Worst failure rate of any console. It is amazing that they made a 3rd Xbox.
doomed since 1889
>>337662279
Oh hey it's that picture drones post when they wanna claim Sony and Microsoft are dying.
>>337663691
People have a hard time admitting that if Nintendo followed Microsoft and Xbox that gen, they would be dead as both had a long period where they were in red.
Or maybe that's the end goal. To bait Nintendo into a rat race they are disadvantaged in. Either way, it seems Nintendo is addressing that by expanding and partnering to create new revenue streams.
>>337663109
Xbone was entirely on Mattrick's head. He's the one who wanted to fuck consumers over and forced Kinect into the thing, because Kinect was surprisingly successful so he thought building a whole damn console around it would be a smart move. Of course, Kinect basically killed it since it made it more expensive than PS4 while also being weaker.
He's so bad at business I almost have to wonder if it's on purpose. Of course MS fired his ass so whether or not Xbox can actually be spun into something successful remains to be seen, but I think MS has given up on Xbone.
>>337664027
uh, but is that why I posted it?
no
>>337650056
Spot the Sony shitposter.
>>337663791
First I've heard of this "Windwaker" game. Is it anything like Wind Waker?
>>337650303
I bought a 3DS a few months before getting a Wii U.
I'm still playing my 3DS daily while the Wii U is collecting dust.
Their portables are fine as long as it still has games like the DS and 3DS have been.
The Wii U is just a complete failure.
>>337650056
...or they'll go full movile-toy
>>337664043
I actually think it might have been a smart move to go that route rather than abandon it all for casuals.
Imagine if Nintendo came roaring into that gen with a console on par with the rest that was hundreds of dollars cheaper than the PS3 while offering far more exclusives than 360. They could have taken that gen just by not fucking up like the other two, and they could still be taken seriously as a competitor to Sony.
>>337664283
desu the only reason I have a PS4 is for weebshit
if nintendo somehow managed to get all those devs to on their console I'd drop sony like they were hot
>>337664027
You do realize that those loses don't even dent Microsoft's quarterly profits? And whatever red Sony got from the PS3 was small time to other gambles in other branches?
doooooooomed
>>337663698
>The NX will sell 5 Mil!!
>Fact
>>337664209
When will ninteniggers realize the ENTIRE INDUSTRY is laughing at them, not just the Sony boogeymen? Oh wait, that would force them to acknowledge they're a minority.
>>337664454
You now realize you'd probably say the same thing to a post in 2011 saying the wiiu would only sell 10 million
>>337661975
>keep calm
>>>/trash/
>>337664283
>Imagine if Nintendo came roaring into that gen with a console on par with the rest that was hundreds of dollars cheaper than the PS3
They would be dead. Microsoft and Sony took big loses on the 360 and PS3 out the gate (Xbox 360 was like 125 per console while the PS3 was like 250). Nintendo couldn't afford that. They could have made something strong than the Wii but not to that extent. The only thing is that, in hindsight, the DS MAY have helped them weather the storm. But it still would have been a game more dangerous than anything Sega did.
>>337650056
it doesn't need to fail, they are already moving to phones.
>>337664620
That doesn't make it a fact.
>>337664620
And to one saying that it would sell 15, and to one that said it would sell 5, and to one that said very enthusiastically that it would sell 40...
Future prediction is a bitch.
>>337663243
Sonic Lost World?
I mean, thats the last game Sonic Team made and I thought it was alright.
>>337659778
>Wii U
>Big source of revenue
lol
>>337664516
I don't even own a Nintendo console. The fact you insist of putting only Sony and Microsoft and not PC is proof you are a Sonycuck.
>>337664889
>Future prediction is a bitch.
>>337664516
What consoles do you own?
>>337659189
Are you retarded?
>>337661750
>perhaps you wanna fuck the primcess
>>337665665
I'm still waiting for that guy to eat a bag of cocks
>>337665665
Remember when /V/ said Wii U will be a succes?
And what is this thread supposed to accomplish exactly?
Oh, is it nothing? Ok.
>>337650056
I want a first person Metroid by FromSoftware.
>>337667125
FPSs generally require a good frame rate, and getting from software quality coding with nintendo quality hardware probably would get you into starfox levels.
>Its another Nintendo videogames begging thread
>>337669198
I don't know who is more deluded: Chris-chan demanding being hired by Sega, or drones pretending Nintendo games still good.
>>337667021
So you're implying that the NX will become a succes?
>>337663459
Gameboy Advance was doing very well to make up for the Gamecube.
"HAhaha don't worry guys, nintendo is doing fiiiiiine, they won't go bankrupt"
Meanwhile all your favorite franchises are turned to shit or completely ignored. The effects of nintendo's casualization and seeking mass market appeal have ALREADY heavily affected you personally. At this point it doesn't matter if they are financially stable, their policies have already changed a long time ago.
Do you honestly think AnimalCrossing:AmiiboFestival would EVER be a thing in the gamecube days? Or such a barebones Mario Tennis? or no Metroid at all?
What about no exclusive zelda?
Completely abandoning the majority of 3rd party developers with an underpowered console like the Wii was their first mistake. At this point nintendo already lost a large portion of the core marketshare.
The second mistake was Wii's quick sales getting to nintendo's head. It only worked in the first half of its lifespan, it was merely a fad within literal soccer moms and grannies. No retention. Nintendo must have thought they had all the gaming audience to them, but after their miracle console was gone they say the truth.
No oen cared for WiiU because moms still have their Wii gathering dust. PS4 with 60% global marketshare, and even Xbone which fucked up on ALL levels pre-launch STILL managed to outsell the WiiU.
What a fucking failure nintendo has become. Even 3DS sales were pretty bad but the astronomical price drop and the monster hunter PSP > 3DS jump helped them out a lot.
NX will sell even less than WiiU, it's a mid-gen console for fucks sake.
>>337671076
Unless they luck out and get another massive boost of cash and ego.
That meme that "nintendo is dying since 1886" have some true behind it.
Nintendo always been a fucked up company that from time to time hit gold by sheer luck and milk the gold dry. then go back to fucking up.
Nintendo should have died before donkey kong, before the famicom, before pokemon, before Nintendo ds and before the Wii.
>>337671076
I know this is probably copypasta but
>Do you honestly think AnimalCrossing:AmiiboFestival would EVER be a thing in the gamecube days?
It's called Animal Crossing e+, which WAS a thing in the Gamecube days, and it required you use the e-reader to scan physical DLC
>or no Metroid at all?
Yes, because that's precisely what happened with the N64.
>What about no exclusive zelda?
Happened to the N64, both OoT and MM received updated ports to Gamecube.
>Completely abandoning the majority of 3rd party developers with an underpowered console like the Wii was their first mistake. At this point nintendo already lost a large portion of the core marketshare.
Except this actually happened with the N64, Nintendo chased away third parties with Yamauchi's business deals and insistence on cartridges. They lost the market share to Sony then, not with the Wii.
>It only worked in the first half of its lifespan
Except it was still selling great in the second half, it sold 500,000 on Black Friday 2011, which was the best Black Friday Nintendo's ever had.
>Even 3DS sales were pretty bad but the astronomical price drop and the monster hunter PSP > 3DS jump helped them out a lot.
They were at first but now it's the 11th best selling video game system of all time, beating the SNES.
3/10 try harder next time
>>337663109
>Fuck dude, has Xbox been on life support this whole time?
First Xbox huge was a massive sunk cost project Microsoft expected to take a loss on and wrote off $10 billion. They only had to write off $6 billion and expected to lose even less had Nvidia agreed to lower chipset production costs.
Xbone was >>337664074 said. Management went full retard and tried to tell consumers what they wanted and put studios on projects they didn't want like Fable Legends.
Compare the first three years of the 360 with Allard, then Moore in charge with the years Matrick was in charge. First three years were exclusives out the ass and good games because they believed there was no point in chasing after a different market than Nintendo. Last few years were COD and Kinect because Matrick believed they needed to take Nintendo's market.
>>337672343
>It's called Animal Crossing e+
That's a side game, or whatever the fuck, never heard of it. My point is that GC got an ACTUAL animal crossing game, on top of whatever gimmick you are describing
>N64
N64 has an actual 3D mario and a zelda exclusive of its own at least. WiiU has neither.
> both OoT and MM received updated ports to Gamecube.
Not on the game's fucking launch day. You know very well there's a difference between a lunch multiplat or a half decade old game being ported/remastered to another console.
Also ZeldaU is CLEARLY being delayed because of NX's launch, fuckign over WiiU adopters
>They lost the market share to Sony then, not with the Wii.
Yes that too. N64 was the first of their failures. They fucked over Sony (or vice versa, doesn't matter anymore) and created their worst competition as a result. N64 didn't get dumped only because it used cartridges but also because most 3rd parties were fed up with various nintendo policies and their attitude. PS1 being a viable option was what ended nintendo (not right there, but ever since that gen there is a gradual drop of a nintendo core base)
>Except it was still selling great in the second half
Not as great. Didn't it only outsell the PS3 by 10million by the end of the gen? It's been a long time since I looked at such charts so I might be wrong. Either way my point with the Wii was that 90% of its audience had no retention, so how well it did in the end didn't even matter.
> it's the 11th best selling video game system of all time
I didn't deny that. I said it didn't sell well at first but then got a very impactful price drop and IP. Compared to the DS, however, it's only a shadow of its former shell. DS was the Wii of handhelds. Thankfully nintendo didn't chase the casual dick too much and there are still worthwhile games on the 3DS, it's a better console to own than a WiiU, no doubt.
>3/10 try harder
I don't need to. Nintendo's failure is evident, regardless of how right or wrong I am
>>337662279
needs to be update though. missing 3 years there
Nah m8
>>337667021
>w.w.who care about that fact, here's something nobody said that will prove it wrong!
That's you in the pic, right? Or are you the one that put a screenshot of splatoon on his pad?
>>337673227
>That's a side game
So is Amiibo Festival.
>My point is that GC got an ACTUAL animal crossing game, on top of whatever gimmick you are describing
Your point was it could never ever happen on GC, and it did. e-reader was the exact same shit as amiibos.
>N64 has an actual 3D mario
Nice moving the goalposts. Now it needs a 3D Mario on top of a 3D Zelda.
>Not on the game's fucking launch day. You know very well there's a difference between a lunch multiplat or a half decade old game being ported/remastered to another console.
The port was only 2 years after Majora's Mask. It wasn't that long after. Not to mention it was the definitive version of Ocarina of Time with Master Quest.
If you want a launch multiplat, look at Twilight Princess. Even if Wii U had gotten another Zelda game, there's nothing stopping them from making one multiplat.
>N64 didn't get dumped only because it used cartridges but also because most 3rd parties were fed up with various nintendo policies and their attitude. PS1 being a viable option was what ended nintendo (not right there, but ever since that gen there is a gradual drop of a nintendo core base)
I mentioned that, it was mostly Yamauchi's fault that those policies and attitudes were there. They still never won back the third parties after that, some only came back with the Wii because it was the most successful console on the market, not because they liked Nintendo.
>Not as great. Didn't it only outsell the PS3 by 10million by the end of the gen? It's been a long time since I looked at such charts so I might be wrong.
It was 17.83, and the PS3 only got there after several hardware revisions and even more price cuts, it was trailing behind the Wii for most of the generation.
>I don't need to. Nintendo's failure is evident, regardless of how right or wrong I am
The Wii U was a failure, but trying to predict the future is futile.
People thought Nintendo could never recover from the Virtual Boy or the Gamecube.
>>337669680
Iam sorry, but who made the thread again?
Just because its a meh thread and i can, let me put famicom in perspective.
It is like if let's say rovio ordered 50 million SoCs from a no name brand chip plant, and after they sold 5 million consoles somehow, they had to recall it due a massive bug, and took 6 months to relaunch the console, and yet managed to succeed.
I bet in most parallel universes, nintendo is not a thing.
>It's inevitable. The Wii U is going to fail, and Nintendo will come to their senses and ditch hardware to begin releasing their games on the Xbox and PS3 as a third party.
>It's inevitable. The GameCube is going to fail and Nintendo will come to their senses and ditch hardware to begin releasing their games on the Xbox and PS2 as a third party
>It's inevitable. The N64 is going to fail and Nintendo will come to their senses and ditch hardware to begin releasing their games on the Saturn and Playstation as a third party.
>It's inevitable. The Super Nintendo is going to fail and Nintendo will come to their senses and ditch hardware to begin releasing their games on the Genesis as a third party.
>>337676960
Nobody told that during the N64 or Snes era.
>>337677104
Maybe not those words exactly, but you get my point.
The SNES and Wii performed crazy well, the relative failures of the N64 and GCN compared to the competition, and the actual genuine failure of the Wii U hasn't stopped Nintendo from producing hardware.
I'm not saying the NX will come anywhere near the numbers that the Wii did, or even do particularly great, but people have been talking about Nintendo going over since they first started releasing games.
>>337677104
>Nobody told that during the N64 era
>>337677104
>Snes era.
