Has a game ever made you feel bad for your actions?
Some games have pulled it nicely, like The Sorrow from MGS3. I haven't seen a lot of games that can be subtle enough to make it feel seamless.
At the end of Mass Effect 1 I felt bad for choosing the Renegade ending.
>kill someone with the fork
>see the ghost of that same dude
>he yells "don't eat me!"
It made me laugh more than anything.
I remember feeling bad in mass effect 2 when I decided to fuck around and not save my crewmembers asap, making you have to watch them get horribly killed off right in front of you
>>337649610
Sauce? This looks a little too fishy for me.
>>337649610
>The Sorrow from MGS3
>mfw I only played non-lethal
>>337649610
felt pretty bad stopping that bully in the beginning of Fable
>>337649610
Tales of Symphomia tired to make me fell bad for killing Zelos.
Hint, TIRED.
Is this a fabneygar thread? Will he even respond? Is he even alive?
>>337649610
Persona 4 golden on valentines day.
>>337651007
That's what I'm thinking as well.
We need to find source to clear this shit up once and for all.
SEE THE WORLD-ORLD-ORLD
Getting to the last two endings in Nier and actually getting the final ending in Nier was pretty devastating.
>>337651621
Nier was a messed up game once you got to NG+
>>337649610
You know, I should probably just leave this here in case it is what I think it is.
>>337651621
Ending B was the hardest hitting IMO.
>tfw the Shadowlord just wanted his daughter back
>>337649610
are those her knees?
>>337651946
Maybe, could be.
>>337649610
Harvesting Little Sisters in Bioshock.
It's bad enough knowing you just killed their only friend in this festering urban shithole. Then comes the time to rip a symbiotic slug out of their stomachs, leaving them to a slow painful death while you reap the benefits of more ADAM in your pocket.
Goddammit, it shouldn't be this hard to find sauce.
>>337650886
>game tries to make you feel bad for making the right choice
For what purpose?
>>337653267
to try and make you feel sorry for that piece of shit
![300[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/TOtRQnf.jpg "300[1].jpg")
>>337650886
But the game rewards you for killing him
>>337649610
XCOM, for fucking up my tactical decisions and having a hardened combat vet die due to botched commands and watching his rookies panic and get slaughtered.
>>337649610
>>337653595
I know
"Undertale"
still waiting on sauce
Still needing sauce
>>337651858
Yeah I agree, although that last ending was pretty hard on a personal level, having pretty much 100%ed everything. But also when you keep playing and start getting perspective from the shades' point of view (picture related), the tears just kept on flowing.
>>337650684
Literally this, I was going full non-lethal till I found that fuckin machinegun. its not my fault Snake Rambo screams when you full auto it, it was funny, I knew the exact point in the game I found it after all the bodies started showing up during The Sorrow's part.
Say what you want about Fates but I felt like shit when I played Hoshido, especially when you have to fight your siblings.
>Marx actually shows inner conflict when you pick Hoshido
>later on
>Engage combat with Belka
>"I just don't get it. Camilla always says how much she loves you. Why would you throw that away?"
>mfw
Still can't find sauce with Google
>>337649610
You know this picture really pisses me off, mainly because I don't know if it's supposed to be GR15 or not.
The stripes in her hair give it away, but I'm still not sure.
>>337657904
sup, Barneyfag
>>337657904
>>337657707
>>337651812
It's Mercy
>>337653036
I felt REALLY shitty for doubting Sinclair for the whole game. Finally bails you out and gets dicked over for it.
Tactics Ogre. Going the Law Route
Ogre Battle 64. Going the Chaotic/Low CF route.
I felt bad killing Mr. House. His frail moral body, how helpless he was disconnected from his network.
>>337653697
Yeah, that shit is fucking brutal. Similar with something like TacticsOgre of FFT, losing some random-named NPC that you've had since the beginning is worse than storyline-scripted deaths.
>>337658207
Nah, the hair positioning is off, and there's no halo.
>>337659054
She doesn't need to be wearing the halo 24/7
Pokemon silver made me regret forgetting to contact my mom before I left
>>337659054
I would wear all that shit too when taking a shower
>>337649610I have to try
>>337649610
The outbreak mission in phantom pain where you have to deal with the infected mother base soldiers. Especially when everyone was saluting at the end humming the theme.
>>337660112
the worst part of that mission was fucking Huey
>>337659338
Then it obviously isn't her.
So yeah, fuck this shit.
>>337660494
>This is the enemy on his knees!
Fuck I love Miller as a character, he was the best character in the game if you ask me.
I wonder what Ocelot did to him between audio cassettes to get such a reaction?
Fuck Huey and his plot armor, lmao he gets cucked and kills himself like a pussy.
>>337649610
I can't think of any.
Dishonored maybe? But not really. Was one of the more recent games I've played that had consequences on the people around for how I behaved somewhat. Finding people as...Weepers I think they were called. That old man who sold me useless shit also turning into one because I poisoned the elixir still and shit.
But yeah no not really. Even Fable 3 where you literally break every promise and disable your conscience by turning orphanages into brothels, draining lakes and turning other empires into slaves...it's just a game
..in fact these days I tend to take pleasure in the ham-fisted shitty acting that follows as you do crazy shit...like in Hitman
I really liked this moment in Spec Ops The Line. Guy tricks you, is stuck under a truck on fire. I stood there watching him burn. 20 seconds later i see a deer and shoot it in the head. Get achievement.
There was a weird contemplative moment.
>>337662757
I hated how fable3 handled the endgame content everything up til then was a decent game but that just ruined it for me.
I'm glad lionhead is dead but sad we couldn't get a good sequel to Fable2. Fable2 had the perfect journey and ending imo.
Dark Souls 1 had a moment where a friendly NPC asks you where ou got your rare Pyromancy spell from, so I told him.
Later went exploring in Blighttown and found him hollowed (Zombified) cause he couldn't find the merchant who sold them.
Made me feel like shit for a while cause literally every time you help someone in that game, it screws them over and leads to their deaths/hollowing.
>>337663382
That's personally what I loved about the NPCs in DS1.
>>337649610
hu iz seemin deemin???
>>337663564
Oh don't get me wrong, I love that too.
But it still makes me feel like shit, I'm just used to being helpful having only good consequences in games.
>>337664235
sounds like in that game being helpful only has bad consequences. So, more of the same, just with more cutting and angst
>>337649610
I feel bad I'm about tomurder Tinker Tom
Long time ago, my friend lent my his copy of the bioware Kung fu game, and he said I tottaly should go down the evil path.
I did so, and every evil option was just petty, dick moves. I just felt like a low-level bully, what a useless route
>>337664593
did you jaywalk? Were children watching?!
>>337649610
THAT HAIRSTYLE! I'LL BE FAB! NOBODY WILL EVER KNOW!
danbackslide.fax
>>337664716
Oh, you have no idea, this one time I pushed this little girl into a trench, and I didnt pay for my meal.
I felt I was roleplaying the fantasies of a 13 year old angsty kid with no imagination.
>>337664593
Jade Empire is a good game.
I would love to know the artist but probably will never find out
>>337665636
ahaaa hoo
Pretty much any game with semi-competent writing and a moral choice that isn't clear-cut that one is better or worse
For example I most definitely did not feel bad playing Fire Emblem Fates and kind of wish Conquest was full evil psycho route because the writing was so shit anyways
>>337665914
are there games where you don't select your choices, but let your actions speak?
As a kid, yeah.
Releasing a pokemon or a chao was painful.
The fact that I knew they were just 1's and 0's only made it worse, since it meant they were completely and utterly erased from existence the moment I pressed the button, rather than possibly going on to something better.
>>337649610
No because I'm not a fucking woman
>>337649610
bravely second, for siding with female side to separate schools, I only did it to get the monk class. Fuck still leaves a bad taste in my mouth. that game for spouting off grey areas constantly made the issues black and white and your dicissions.
>>337663054
When the choice to execute one of the two guys came up I stood up, quit the game and haven't touched it for a week.
>>337650886
..... you mean tried right?
>>337666190
they are never completely erased, the 1s and 0s are just sent to reserve data in the sky to be used again for later purposes.
>>337666190
Why would you release a pokemon?
>>337664593
I really hated that, especially since in the tutorial/stating area, the guy who explains the morality system was even saying that it isn't about being mean or evil, it's about "allowing everyone else to find their own path" which is hippy shit but respectable. Too bad in the game it turns out to just be the typical "be a douchebag" option.
Other than that, I think Jade Empire is Bioware's magnum opus.
The dude in max payne 2 who's cleaning graffiti in the apartment level. First time playing i thought that the game would either not allow me to shoot him, or give some special message about killing civilians in some way or another. Instead he just dropped dead and didn't hum along to the theme anymore. It was the first time a game touched me on a personal level. The reality of mortality hit my kid brain like a truck of bricks. When you kill someone, they just die.
>>337666272
Being conscious of your actions, the consequences of them, and the responsibilities they entail, are essential aspects of being a man.
>>337667103
Why kill him? His humming was awesome and he was a bro.
What happened to the prostitute and the hobo? Those two were awesome and hope they made it out.
>>337667354
I was a stupid child at the time, Anon. I didn't know better. I just thought it was a game...
>>337667437
>I just thought it was a game
it was
>>337649610
Nuking the town in Fallout 3, being a complete dick in any Bioware game
>>337649610
Probably silly considering the game but I felt bad after choosing the option to kill the guy in Skyrim who kept the Dawnstar Mythic Dawn museum. He was just a regular dude who didn't realize he was in way over his head until it was too late.
>>337667726
what other options have you had at your disposal?
>>337667718
The main thing I felt bad about with nuking Megaton was that Tenpenny Tower made such a shit player home since it was at the ass end of nowhere. It was basically the "fuck you, use fast travel" player home option.
>>337667878
Tell Mehrunes you're not gonna kill him, which makes Mehrunes spawn two Dremora to chase down and kill the guy. Then you can help him by killing the monsters.
>>337657904
>>337651812
im pretty sure it's fashion horse
she has the eye makeup and her hair curls at the end
>>337668116
so ultimately nothing the player did would have changed the outcome regarding this guy's health? Just the method of it happening?
>>337668038
Yeah, but at least they had clean toilets
>>337663054
this motherfucker. I shot him like he wanted without really giving it much thought, and at the end when it showed me shooting him as part of the flashbacks It suddenly hit me how fucking badly I got played by him.
unrelated but still spec ops: doing a melee attack on the a member of the crowd that hung Lugo has the same effect as shooting into the air to disperse the crowd.
>>337666407
>not just shooting the snipers instead
>>337668231
He lives if you can kill the enemies before they get to him. The caveat is that you don't get the best reward for the quest. It's probably one of the few quests in the game where you have any real choice on how things end up.
>>337668864
>you don't get the best reward for the quest
guess a virtual life is not worth much?
I always feel bad when I'm nuking a peaceful planet from orbit in X4 games when I'm playing for a conquest victory.
Killing billions of people for no good reason.
>>337649974
>Shoot a guy in the dick, killing him
>see said guy's ghost
>"My children! My children!"
>Killed a guy
>Saw a vulture eat his corpse
>His ghost is being pecked by a vulture
Goddamn, that game was good.
>>337667110
might makes right faggot
>>337666947
But it's like that in every Bioware game. Every evil route is you being a petty villain or just an asshole.
I apologise if I walk into people in-game
>>337669112
Something a sociopath would say.
>>337649610
I'll likely be called a faggot for it but I stood still in game holding my weapon, contemplating actually going through with it, for a while when Shaun sent me to murder the Railroad after I'd been around with Deacon for a while.
Satisfaction for a second or two, sincere regret untilrestarting the checkpoint.
>>337649610
to kill Michael in GTA 5 really made me feel badI saved just before so I could do the 3 endings tho
>>337669235
yes, that's because i'm a sociopath.
>>337649610
give us the source already you cunt
>>337649610
Killing Toriel felt bad in Undertale when i was going for the genocide ending.
>>337649610
a lot of games tried to make me feel bad but i cant help but feel nothing i do in a game really matters
>>337649830
No shit? I felt worse and worse for sacrificing the Council as I went through the sequels.
>>337649610
sauce
In Fallout New Vegas, there's one quest where you have to investigate a casino that's stockpiling guns. Their main buyer is a guy they blackmailed into it after he woke up from a drug-fueled bender next to the corpse of a prostitute.
Talking to him, it's pretty obvious that he's been set up, and I had the skills and equipment to sneak into the storeroom and destroy the stockpiled weapons myself. However, I saw a speech check to make him do it come up, and I clicked on it automatically because I was playing a speech character and that's how I do.
Anyway, I come back in a day to check up on things and my other informant is all "Hey, you better help me kill the two bosses, because they caught that guy and he slipped your name while they were torturing him to death."
I felt pretty dirty about that.
>>337670558
Damn there were a lot of good quests in New Vegas after getting bored in Freeside. I got some good satisfaction from making the bosses go against each other and then kill the rest of them myself.
Still my favourite quest has to be the hotel with the guy who wants to revive cannibalism there. Even if it was buggy as fuck for me at least.
>>337670558
Yeah, that guy deserved better. It's hard to resist a high speech check option when you can pass it, though (one of the few things I dislike about NV, is how it handles speech/skill checks in dialogue, with a pure "pass/fail" listed in the option). Also doing it that way you miss out on the weapons from the store room (usually the best early/mid-game way to get assault rifles, sniper rifles, etc. for free), unless you can pick the 100 skill lock.
>>337649610
first dragon age I guess, I didn't want to lose friends but had to make the choice to do so.
>>337669059
>kill the vulture and eat it
>the ghost screams "you ate me"
Killing the colossi in SotC.
A game has succesfully had me do something that was not a choice but it was probably not morally right, but I wanted to do it anyway.
>>337649610
>the sorrow
Didn't see anybody in that whole entire river. I always do stealth nonlethal plays of MGS3
>>337649610
pic related is more important than anything else
i still feel really bad for buying fallout 4 so yeah
>>337669317
path to zen is accepting what you are
Thinking back on it, being such a dick to Amdusias was really, really mean of me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToGeZvhL-Ks
>>337649610
> KOTOR1
> Weird ass planet in middle of nowhere trapped in time
> Clear the area of weird aliens and answer a bunch of riddles to keep my body and escape
> Get back to the ship
> Wookie owes me life debt
> Mission the young Twilek I found in the slums is best friends with him
> Force wookie to kill Mission
> Madman actually does it
> Carl or w.e his name fucks off
> Feels bad
> Reload and finish games a goodie
I could never bring myself to kill people in Dishonored. The arsenal for assassinations is amazing, and it's extremely fun to kill, but the fact that killing affects Emily just somehow puts me off. I don't even know why.
>>337672001
You're neither a sociopath or a murderer man, gz, you did a cool thing.
>>337666141Undertale
Game actually does a good job of deconstructing moral choices in video games and evil routes.
The last time I can remember something like this would be Bioshock.
I thought the "moral choice" of harvesting little sisters was fucking retarded since saving them gave you better shit anyway. Spent the whole game harvesting them and not giving a fuck.
Then I got to Tenenbaum's little stronghold. Hearing the comments of those Little Sisters as I was exploring got to me for some reason. I think because I was remember what they were saying when I was a father/hero to them.And then I ate the Pep Bar on the table...
>>337669112
How silly. You say might makes right yet here you are on 4chan. That's usually cause to believe you aren't right.
>>337669261
I want a followup on this picture.
being tricked by poor game design into killing a furbait goat and being called out on it the entire game
made me feel pretty bad for wasting five hours of my life
Honestly, the problem about trying to make me feel bad about doing something is this.
If there is clearly supposed to be some kind of bad thing happening for doing X, then I'm prepared for something bad to happen and the impact is diminished.
If it's not clear something bad will happen if I do X, I just get mad that it didn't have the effect I wanted.
Like, let's take Atelier Totori for example. The game explicitly tells you that you must complete X within three years. It is very clear you'd get some kind of bad ending for failing this. The game does NOT tell you that you get a bad ending for not completing Y in five years and gave you no hint that you even had a time limit for Y. So you get a bad ending for failing Y. I didn't feel sad, I was just mad that I got a bad end for something I wasn't warned about.
>>337649610
Harvest Moon: A Wonderful Life
Cow died because I didn't wash it. The whole town gathered around its corpse. Even the fucking elves.
