Is there any reason to still play this?
>>337645369
If you haven't,yeah
it's worth playing
Lightning and shit
chainsaw
I liked it when it was released. Great looking game, decent atmosphere. Not sure why it gets so much hate.
>>337645369
I ordered it the other day just to see where it went so wrong.
>>337645567
it's boring and plays like shit
>>337645507
shit I mean lighting, stupid Final Fantasy thread
>>337645369
Only for the mods.
>>337645625
The most boring person in the world.
>I'm angry and i hate every game ever made.
>>337645507
But the lighting in doom 2016 is 500 times more impressive
>>337645567
It's nothing like the original.
>>337645709
>don't like something
>OMG you're so boring!
>>337645369
You'll like it if you enjoyed Event Horizon or Dead Space (which more or less is 3rd person Doom 3)
>>337645709
He is right though, the game plays like utter shit
Why does this game feel so hard compared to the original Doom? There's never any room to maneuver and all the guns hit like peashooters
I've tried playing it so many times. It's just so God damn dull. I'd rather replay System Shock 2 for the nth time.
>>337645745
A game made in 2016 has better lighting than a game made in 2004? I would've never guessed.
>>337645369
Sure, you might like it. It doesn't play much like old Doom though.
>>337645812
I don't know, I played it on nightmare recently and my single strat was to charge with shotgun and crown the enemy.
Regardless of their size an monster type.
Mistakes were made but we did it.
>>337645369
Hating on this game is just newfriends trying to fit in. At the end of the day its a good game, not the best doom game of course, but good and should be played if you haven't tried it.
Sure. The monster designs are neat, and its a fun experience.
>>337645907
Every time i hear that, It's what does it play like?
I mean the levels were larger and the guns were basically infinity range, Do we want that? That doesn't really seem like a step forward.
>>337645745
Sure, but in 2004 this was quite impressive. There was a lot of work on lighting from Thief, Splinter Cell and Silent Hill and it was nice to watch the leaps forward
>>337645812
Because you have to aim on the vertical axis as well as horizontal. It's automatically twice as hard.
>>337646050
Fuck, I tried to save him. I really did.
Nothing hits him, he just trips and die's.
>>337646047
Doom 3 played more like a horror game than classic Doom and you'll either be ok with that or you'll hate it.
>>337646138
Its loke the suffering you caunt sauve anyone you caun only watch them die
>>337645812
You've just gotta move around.
>>337645915
This and a bit of movement and flow.
Don't stand there like a jackass and get shot up.
>>337646196
Doom 1 was a horror game.
>>337645369
The guns are all shit. They feel like crap, sound like crap and do no damage.
All it is good for is a footnote in gaming history with regards to tech, legacy and the Xbox cross-platform shit.
The game is basically id trying to make Half-Life 1.
>>337646256
>Doom 1 was a horror game
It was an action game with horror elements.
>>337646256
>>337646196
He means slow, jump scares.
>>337646281
>Half-Life 1.
HE'S SAYING HALF LIFE 1 IS A BAD GAME, GET HIM!
>>337646256
>Doom 1 was a horror game.
Don't get pedantic with me. You know exactly what I mean.
>>337646036
No one hates it. It has a good sense of atmosphere and some nice level design but the guns really do feel like absolute garbage to use. It becomes a game of listening closely to the demonic spawning sound so you can run behind right up to the Imp's face while he's still spawning and put a shotgun round straight into his face so you can avoid the pain of waiting for him to produce his fireball, sidestepping it and then shotgunning his face. They went completely overboard with the imps in the game, there must be at least 300 of them
>>337646349
Funny enough it never really scared me, It was alright those guys are monsters and i need to cull their numbers.
Bit like blake stone, Overweight guards are shooting me.
>>337646459
Strangely enough in Doom 3 ROE, They don't have any of the encounters that Doom 3 has.
They would spawn behind and in front of you.
It's just here's the hunters in front of you.
>>337646459
>They went completely overboard with the imps in the game, there must be at least 300 of them
Fuck, isn't that the truth.
>>337646561
ROE also makes imps less painful because of the gravity gun which can catch fireballs but their new enemy is just an imp with a green fireball
Not OP, but do I go with vanilla or BFG?
>>337646762
vanilla
>>337645369
Sure, if you like FPS/Survival horror hybrids.
>>337646656
Well, The fireball is actually the hell knight fireball which is why it looks so big.
Bruisers were annoying but they were nothing because of that heart.
You could just one flashlight everything which removed the effort.
And souls were plenty.
>>337646459
I also don't like the sound of the shotgun and especially the machine gun
It's a bit dry.
Some cool bosses though, maybe not the cyberdemon but certainly the half-tank-half-man guy
>>337646762
Vanilla BFG is like the bastard child of vanilla
>>337645369
Only if you want to play the best game of its respective series.
>>337646762
BFG. The lighting effects suffer, but at least it plays more like doom.
You sacrifice atmosphere for gameplay that isn't shit.
>>337646983
What does it do for the gameplay besides the flashlight mod, which you can get in the original game?
>>337647294
It's not a horror game, anon. People who play Doom 3 for the "horror" are deluding themselves if they think that's horror.
>>337647294
Didn't it add more ammo?
>See Zombie (any type) - Use pistol, shotgun or chainsaw
>See Imp - Use shotgun or plasma rifle
>See Wraith - Use shotgun
>See Demon - Use plasma rifle
>See Marine - Use machinegun
>See Cherub, Trite or Lost Soul - Use machinegun or chaingun
>See Maggot - Use shotgun or plasma rifle
>See Mancubus - Use soulcube or rocket launcher
>See Archvile - Use soulcube or rocket launcher
>See Hell Knight - Use shotgun
>See Baron of Hell - Use rocket launcher
>See Commando (melee) - Use shotgun
>See Commando (chaingun) - Use chaingun
If you don't follow this specific way to kill enemies you are either being inefficient with your ammo or putting yourself at too great a risk. For instance anyone who played the game will know how absolutely retarded the Lost Souls, Cherubs and Trites are because they completely knock your view around so it's best to stay at range. The same is true of Marines which actually push you back with their weapons so you should always use the machinegun unless they're right next to you.
Don't even consider using the grenades because the horrible physics engine often causes them to fall close to you and kill you. Anything explosive is pretty much instant fucking death on any difficulty.
>>337647437
I'm asking what it changes about the gameplay. Try to focus anon.
>>337647445
I haven't played it, would like some clarification myself. Everyone says it's shit.
>>337647294
Flash light was a good part of the game.
It made you think tactically, Plenty of times i have had to use that and then have a door pop open with a imp slashing me.
>>337647580
That's why you shout rip and tear each time you throw a grenade and hope it doesn't bounce back.
>>337647592
Don't judge a game by the morons who say its shit but haven't played it.
>>337647641
I know what they were going for. Not attacking the flashlight itself, just asking what was actually changed.
>>337647748
>Don't judge a game by the morons who say its shit but haven't played it.
How about actually explaining what the game changes you dense fuck? Plenty of people that DID play it say vanilla is the way to go.
>>337647641
>it made you think tactically
>in a game where you're armed to the fucking teeth
>>337647592
Right, sorry for that. Basically what I said before with the lighting and flashlight, and it adds more ammo. It tries to be more DOOM 1 and 2 than whatever DOOM 3 was going for. That's not to say DOOM 3 vanilla was bad, I just felt the horror aspect was poorly executed and pointless after an hour into the game. There's no survivablity fear, just jumpscares that you get desensitized to. That's why I prefer to play BFG; cut the bullshit and shoot everything.I would absolutely love a DOOM survival horror game where you don't play as Doomguy and have to desperately hide and survive, though
>>337645369
The game is okay. It is pretty bland, without the co-op mod.
Fuck the BFG version.
>>337645369
It's a great game. Just make sure you're not playing BabbyFG Edition. And don't play normal difficulty on your first go, play hard. And check out the expansion too.
>>337650072
>babbyFG
>being this underaged
>>337647294
Flashlight always on completely ruins the game. It's a huge part of the game. Also, BFG Edition is lighter, they cut down the shadow engine of the game. Basically it's an inferior port in every way. The only advantage is that you can set widescreen resolution out of the box, in vanilla Doom you need to set it in config file.
Is there a reason why you guys fault Doom 3 for having monsters in closets when this is literally what Doom was? Doom, by design, ambush you with monsters hiding behind wall triggers.
>>337650749
Oh, If you want to adjust the shadows in BFG.
Type this command into the game console
r_lightScale 0
>>337650749
What I did was going into the settings and set Contrast & Brightness on the lowest.
I had a good 20 min of heebie-jeebies.
>>337650975
It's a meme. At some point is became cool to hate Doom 3.
>>337650749
>it's an inferior port in every way
How so? It's much fast and more doom like.
And like you said, the shadows can be fixed, so what problems remain other than the flash light (which can be turned off as well)?
>>337651508
>It's much fast and more doom like.
It's not designed that way. It's like adding a rifle in to an existing mario game.
>>337651695
But we aren't talking about Mario. We're talking about a game that was criticized for trying to be survival horror but instead came out a jumpscape machine with admittedly wonderful atmosphere. BFG isn't for everybody, but it isn't the fucking Silent Hill HD /v/ makes it out to be.
>>337645369
cause you can play it like this
>>337652082
Only faggots criticized it for being survival horror. The game was critically acclaimed and popular and then comes BFG edition and tries to fix what wasn't broken
>>337652340
But it was broken
>the game was critically acclaimed and popular
kek
>>337652431
If you don't like a game mechanic doesn't mean it's broken. I don't like CS because I don't want to wait for round to end, but I don't think it's broken.
>>337652215
Wrong aspect fuccboi
>>337646368
No, it's just trying to be like it.
The fight wasn't too great but I thought Doom 3's Cyberdemon looked cool as fuck. Much better than the Warcraft monster moonlighting as a Cyberdemon in the new game. Hell Knights looked pretty spiffy too.
>>337656546
Imps looked better than the new Doom's too.
>>337656546
Too bad they took out some cool elements found in the alpha leak
>reflections in glass
>better sound effects (pistol especially)
>Hell Knight finishing moves
>cool scripted events
And talking about scripted events, if i remember correctly at E3 2002, they said that monsters could pop out of anywhere (like pinky ripping open a few pipes to come out of a wall) which was a bunch of horseshit.
>>337656785
The gun sounds were so disappointing. In the classic Dooms the guns sounded so nice, it was a shame how weak they sounded in 3.
>>337656785
Lies at E3, shocker.
>>337657006
They also did no damage and looked like shit.
>>337646807
You aren't supposed to use the Artefact in RoE except for when it's mandatory if you want to have fun.
>>337646047
Fuck off
