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>Ice and Water are different elements
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How about we throw Steam into the mix too.
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>>337641839
Not all ice is made of water. There's shit like methane ice.
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>>337642239
>ice is element
>gas and liquid are not their own element
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>>337641839

>water is water
>ice is the way shitty magic societies consider "cold," in the same retarded vein as "flies are born from garbage heaps"

It will never bother me until a game has Ice AND Cold elements.
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>>337642239

But can Methane Ice become water? I DON'T THINK SO!
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>>337642441
So solid should be too??

>>337642093
Name a Game
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>>337641839
>Grass, Rock, and Ground are seperate elements
>They aren't just grouped into one called Earth.
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>>337641839
I miss the guy who spammed porn comics about Donald's nephews
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>>337641839
>Homo and Faggot are different status effect.
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>>337642239
doesn't matter. neither ice nor water are elements.
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>>337642761
earth isn't an element either.
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>>337642892
>gay and queer are separate things
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>>337641839
>water is the only liquid that can be frozen
back to school huey
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>"thunder" is electricity
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>>337642915
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_element

This is going to turn into some pedantic argument isn't it?
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>>337641839
>the game doesn't let you make a uranium golem

trashed.
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>Lighting and Fire are considered two separate elements.

>No game just has "heat" as an element.
>Game has an element called "Thunder."

>It's clearly lighting.
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You fool, of course ice belongs to the element earth.
>he climbed an iceberg
>also never had a whiskey on the rocks
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Ice and Water being different elements never made sense, especially in games with Fire.

How the fuck do you let Ice and Water be two different elements but not Fire and Smolder?
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>>337643051
>if the ancient greeks believed it, it must be true!
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>>337641839
>water is usually portrayed as a "healing" or lacking in offense element
>floods and tsunamis are the most devastating natural disasters
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>>337643115
>Lighting and Fire are considered two separate elements.
That's because they are two completely separate things?
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>>337642093
perhaps in the next update
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>>337642915
>doesn't think water is an element
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>>337643168
*He never climbed
fuck my typing
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>>337641839
>Air is even acknowledged
>You're just being a drafty nigger.
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>ground and rock are two different elements
>flying and wind are two different elements
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>>337643190
Don't be stupid. It's true because the ancient chinks believed it.
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>>337643292
Water is a compound you nitwit.
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>>337643184
>Smolder
All the other wizards laugh at you and call you a faggot.
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>>337643292
haha, wow. maybe you should've paid attention in 3rd grade.
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>Void is an element
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>>337642652
Magicka
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LOL! Holy fuck dude. Simmer the hell down. It's a VIDEO GAME! Think about that before you open your mouth and make yourself look like the saddest piece of shit I've seen all day. I know NOTHING about you except that you're worthless and have no life IE. time to check these things out and care. Hope you're proud of yourself. I really do. I sincerely hope for a SPLIT second you feel better about yourself because you downloaded and rummaged through all the levels of your favourite Video Game in fucking STEAM just to point out he said his opinion. That was going to blow the fucking CONTINUITY out of the water and blow our FUCKING minds somehow. Being that Video Games are known for their sharp and detective like continuity. Steam. Even the fucking CREATOR said fuck this and LEFT....but you...no YOU sat down and figured this out and now you look SO brilliant in front of us. Man....is my face red. I'm so ashamed of myself for not being a big fucking loser who has to spend my time nitpicking a fucking KIDS game (even in Japan it's for CHILDREN you weeaboo piece of shit) like you. Nice work.
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>>337643390
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>>337643393
it's false in either case. (i know you're being sarcastic.)
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>>337643492
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>>337643490
haven't seen this one before, neat
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>>337641839
>OP and autism are different elements
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>>337643594
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>>337643115
Superstar Saga
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>>337642915
you're a cunt
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>>337643448
> not knowing the ancient Greeks 5 elements
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>>337643698
ok
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>>337643773
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>>337643536
Yes, when talking about chemical elements, but with the OP being worded how it is we're probably talking about games that use systems closer to the classical elemental system. Usually games that use magic. Magica, or dungeons and dragons.
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>>337643774
the ancient greeks were wrong.
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>>337643859
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>>337643873
i don't care. he's wrong, and the games are wrong.
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>>337643004
it is actually
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>>337643886
> conflating our concept of elements to theirs
> he probably think atomism is the same concept of as atoms in science

It is so dumb you must be trolling
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>>337643459
Name 2 (two) games.
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>>337641839
>RPGs still go by the long-outdated Classical Elements instead of using actual fucking elements
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>>337644229
no, it isn't.
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>>337644308
Magkia 2
Warlock
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>>337644364
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>>337644395
Ground. It translates the same.
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>>337644267
the ancient greeks thought water is an element. it's not. therefore, they were wrong.
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>>337641839
>none of the elements are from the periodic table

I just want to be a copper wizard, for fuck's sake.
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>>337644415
>>337644308
he's got you beat there
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>>337642652
>>337642093
>>337641839
>>337644308
Classic Dungeons and Dragons has Water, Ice, and Steam as their own thing.
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>>337644445
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>>337644447
ground is not an element.
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>>337644638
>ghost / spirit enemies
>implying ghost exist
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>>337644476
> still this dense

Yeah your either retarded or a troll
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>>337644740
do you know what the word "element" means?
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>>337642915
>you can't specialise in Potassium magic
why even fucking live?
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>>337644395
do you even chinese nigga, earth, metal, wood, fire, and air
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>>337644898
none of those are elements.
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>>337644860
So, you'd have power over bananas? When other wizards could give you cancer with their plutonium magic?
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>>337644730
this story has far too many feels
scrooge has become such a sour old duck, it's disheartening. I can't bring myself to read that last part at Duckburg again.
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>>337643115
>hey guys let's go camping and we'll toast marshmellows on the camplightning at night
no
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>>337644953
or anything else in the universe that contains potassium.
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>>337643027
The element wouldn't be "ice" though; it'd be whatever the fuck was frozen.
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Ones a solid and ones a liquid how is this hard to understand?
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>>337644950
Element:

a part or aspect of something abstract, especially one that is essential or characteristic.
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>>337644831
How do you not get that they are different concepts you dolt
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>>337641839
>wind is an element

Love this fucking meme
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>>337645129
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/79/14LaAc_periodic_table_IIb.jpg

back to school.
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Leeloo is my favorite element.
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>>337645129
enabler:
a person or thing that makes something possible.

Stop engaging the troll. He's purposely taking a single definition of the word and ignoring all others for the sake of getting replies.
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>>337645169
we're only talking about one concept. elements.
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>>337645238
waifu is my favorite element
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>>337642761
Confusing Pokémon types with elements.
>not being this autistic
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>>337645254
there is only one correct definition.
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>>337642652
doodle god
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>Time and Gravity are the same element
>My mfw when
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>>337645368
>guaranteed replies
You really are earning your (you)s today.
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>>337645462
you're using a definition that was discredited multiple centuries ago. what's it like being that retarded?
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>>337642761
>plants are sand
Rock and ground should have been one type, but imagine a flower that resists fire and kills fire.
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>>337641839
>women can't have penis
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>>337645220
His defenition of elements makes sense in this context dipshit. You're wrong.
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>>337645656
>what is a cactus
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>>337641839
>suprise isn't an element
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>>337644730
thanks for the dump, that was a nice read
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>>337645636
What's it like to be on a board dedicated to video games and be unable to talk about video game mechanics because they're not 100% real?
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>>337645754
no, it doesn't. context is irrelevant. water, air, and earth are compounds of elements. fire is a chemical reaction. objective reality doesn't depend on how badly you wish something was true.
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>>337645636
what's it like having genuine autism and not understanding meanings in fantasy settings?
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>>337645929>>337645990

i'm talking about them right now; specifically, how they're wrong.

"waaah but it's fantasy i wanna pway make beweev" is not a valid argument.
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>>337646053
but they aren't.
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>>337646117
they are.
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>>337646219
So when you look at this do you feel the need to complain to blizzard to change Water Elemental to Water Dude?
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>>337645990
I have genuine autism and I'd like to ask you not to lump the troll in with the rest of us spergs.
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>>337645220
DURRR HERP A DURR
obviously he's talking about the fucking periodic table
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>>337646307
not especially, no. blizzard doesn't get defensive and assmad about being incorrect; they already know they are, and have said as much.
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>>337646446
yes, i'm talking about the only objectively correct definition of the word "element".
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>>337646546
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>>337645963
Wow you are so dense. Yes context DOES matter. A word can have multiple defenitions meant for different contexts. Elements can mean elements of literature, or elements of a battle system. Take your head out of your ass and listen.
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>>337646629
"in ancient and medieval philosophy"

so, you admit that your definition is wrong. okay.
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>making water an element at all

IT'S A FUCKING COMPOUND YOU FUCKS. IT'S MADE OF ELEMENTS, BUT IT IS NOT ITSELF AN ELEMENT.
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>>337646691
nope. if it can be broken down by a chemical reaction, it's not an element. stay wrong.
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>>337646726
Except for the fact we are talking about it in a fantasy setting which includes ancient and medieval themes, enjoy your autism.
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>Lesbian and gay are different

OP is somehow both
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>>337646923
it's equally incorrect in all settings.
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>>337647001
You're not even making sense any more and are trying to grasp at straws to fuel an online argument on an online image board.
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>>337646831
Okay now i know you're baiting because you literally just ignored everything i just said. 7/10 troll took me for a ride
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>>337647001
Fantasy settings often have magic and other things that defy our universes laws of physics. Assuming that they must have the same fundamental laws as us is inane.
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>>337647074
tell me what doesn't make sense, and i'll spell it out in language even you can understand.
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>>337647198
no thanks friend i'm going to go watch Avatar hes the master of all four elements you know.
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>>337647153
i didn't; what you said was simply wrong. context doesn't matter. objective reality does not change because you wish it would for your special little make believe imagination time jerk off session.
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>>337647156
>Fantasy settings often have magic and other things that defy our universes laws of physics
>Alchemy exists in these settings.
Kill yourself
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>>337647156
yes, that's why they're incorrect. this is what we've been going over. try to keep up.
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>fire is 'slow but strong' while lightning is 'fast but weak'
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>>337647308
You can do better than that if the rest of the thread is anything to go by. 0/10
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>>337647293
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>>337647258
cool, stay wrong bro.
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>>337647463
stay autistic friend.
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>>337647449
don't worry, it's not your fault. your third grade teacher just didn't spend enough time on the subject.
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>>337641839
>game has alchemy skill
>can't turn lead into gold
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>>337647395
They have to balance it somehow. Lighting would be fucking OP if it wasn't weak, no matter what game.
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>>337647545
stay wrong bro.
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>>337647436
And yet fantasy alchemy follows our real world physics. Try again
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>>337647668
>>337647545
>>337647463

Oh boy I can't wait to watch you two faggots go back and forth saying the same shit for two hours or until the thread dies. Why don't you both just spare the rest of us and eat a pair of bullets?
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>>337647627
lightning is strong as shit in magicka 1 & 2 and it's not OP at all
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>>337647734
why don't you make us, faggot?
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>>337641839
>Ice is supposed to represent the cold or the lack of heat concept.
How about that?
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>>337647827
*makes you*
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>>337647683
>And yet fantasy alchemy follows our real world physics
Play Atelier Rorona and tell me that.
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>>337647881
good job.
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>>337647734
nah im not buying into that, its better to let people with that condition feel correct, an autistic guy i knew in high school had a melt down and started throwing shit after an argument with the teacher where he was clearly wrong just like now.
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>dragon/flying
>not just dragon
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>>337648049
yeah dude your argument based on bullshit from the dark ages is totes right, keep telling yourself that
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>>337647957
The purpose of alchemy is to break things down and make something new with it. It isn't about turning lead into gold, nor a hammer into a staff. If Atelier does any of those to things then it isn't alchemy.
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>>337648213
yeah dude your basis on reality in video games is totes right, keep telling yourself that
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>>337648301
you just admitted that my position is literally based on objective reality. well done, you played yourself.
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>>337648291
And we're back to being pedantic to a fault. I was hoping for a new branch of trolling but oh well.
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>>337642607
what is chrono trigger?
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>It's a: "middle-schoolers just finished taking their finals for basic chemistry and they want to feel smart for once, by pointing out the obvious facts that water and ice are not elements, but compounds" thread
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>>337644415
Name 3 games fag
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>>337648573
the facts are so obvious that you continually scream and pound your fists in denial of them, weird
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>>337648604
Magikia 2
Warlock
Warlock 2
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Ground/rock are two different elements
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>>337648427
>I can't refute this
>It must be trolling
once again kill yourself
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>>337648657
i don't think you meant to respond to me
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>>337648670
yeah well name like 5 games
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>>337648767
everyone on 4chan is interchangeable
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>>337648776
Magikia 2
Magikia
Warlock
Warlock 2
Warlock 3
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>>337648776
Doodle God. Doodle God 2.
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>>337648851
are you saying you're bisexual
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>>337648657
facts about real science don't have any basis as an argument in video games not about realism.
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>>337648776>>337648862
vessel
nox
baldur's gate
baldur's gate 2
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>>337643985
>>Dragons aren't real so op is wrong and I'm right

That's not how fantasy works ya dingus
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>>337648862
there is no warlock 3
i knew none of you could name 7 games
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>>337648978
facts about real science apply to everything, at all times, at all places, for all cultures, regardless of context.
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>>337647604
This.
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>>337649014
correct: fantasy doesn't work. at all.
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>>337644967
But behind that stingy carmugeon exterior is a man who still cares for his kin and whatnot. He's still a happy person, just easily rustled.
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>>337648978
chemistry is a soft science, so it's barely a science

physical chemistry is literally the only thing with rigorous proofs in that stamp-collecting field

now physics, sure.
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>>337649148
And that's why it's called fantasy and not reality.
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>>337649065
Not in this book I'm reading called The way of Kings.
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>>337649179
>chemistry is a soft science, so it's barely a science
name 10 sciences
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Stance, and opinion are not the same thing. Opinions are based on non-factual information while a stance is not. Also, interpretation and deduction are not the same. Interpretation is simply the explaining of data, but all not explains are not based on fact. Deduction is the breakdown of events through the use of law or principle.

Key Point – Just because you call something incorrect doesn’t mean it is. Words alone are not proof. Which is why counter points must be made using deduction and supporting inferences.
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>>337649148
so what video games do you play then anon?
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>>337649283
When you pair a character with anyone other than their respective canon counterpart you are making direct negative implications about them and the feelings they express in the series they are from and degrade them as a whole. By pairing them with other characters you are stating that the feelings they express in the series are weak or otherwise worthless. This is due to multiple factors, every action works on the same principle of cause and effect, meaning that any statement a third party makes about the characters has implications about them, whether the third party intended for them to be there or not. Remembering two things; implication means the result of logical consequence, and that there are three base states of action – positive, negative, and neutral. All action falls under one of those three categories. To degrade something means to make a negative action towards it. Note that you can make degrading implications about anything, not just living people, which is why it’s factual to say you degrade the characters by making negative implications about them. Also bearing in mind that all fan made work makes direct implications about the characters for another reason. It’s “fan” work, the characters being used are predefined and developed, if you were not making a statement on the characters you would not be making fan work, but original content.
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>>337649258
>>337649261

that's why it's wrong.
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>fire is orange
>electricity is red


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>337649370
Characters are concepts that exist as set-in-stone entities. Meaning once their story is told we, as third parties viewing the events, posses all available information about them. Granted their story does not continue in a canon sequel. But even then, as new information is given we as a third party have full access to it. Point being that once a story is told it factually exists as that story and no personal view or interpretation can change the events that actually happened. Just because fallible interpretations can be made does not mean all interpretations are valid. Which is why personal taste and opinion is not a factor when determining whether certain content is insulting or degrading to the characters involved. Also, fictional stories are limited concepts set within the parameters of its creators. People are not capable of limitless thought, so neither are the concepts which they make, which is why all questions about fiction have a finite answer set. The answer set may not be one item, but the set is finite.
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>>337649405
But it's right according to them. And I like them more than I like you.
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>>337649278
Physics
Kinetics
Mechanics
Electromagnetics
Thermodynamics
Jackie Chan
Biology
Botany
Zoology
Geology
Meteorology
Astronomy
Chemistry
Inorganic Chemistry
Electrochemistry
Analytical Chemistry
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>>337649472
there is no "according to". they're wrong, and you're wrong.
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>>337649278
Space
Planets
Leaves
Trees
Animals
Fish
Alchemy
Billie Dee Williams
Necromancy
Jackie Chan
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>>337649278
physics
mathematical physics (yes it's different)
hard materials science

these are the only hard sciences

engineering and math don't count
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>>337649460
A character is given worth through its story’s development. This is true because if a character is not developed they are considered a blank slate, and a blank slate has no worth. If a character is not developed then no story about it has been told, meaning it’s not even a character. Characters are abstract concepts and as such their value is also abstract, meaning it is not a numerical value but a conceptual one. Developed in a canon setting gives a character worth, so when that development is discarded for the sake of pairing the character with someone other than their canon counterpart you are implying that said development is worthless in the setting where choose to pair the alternate characters. It makes this implication because in the setting with the alternate pair the canon feelings of said characters are not being used. To not use the feelings is the same as saying the feelings have no worth because if the state of being used does not give them worth, nothing does. Just saying “I give the feelings worth because I like them” is not the same as actually giving them worth because you just stating something does not make it true. Similar to saying “I am running” while you are actually walking. Statements alone do not prove fact, the result of logical consequence proves fact as the results can be repeated and tested by multiple parties. Remembering that value comes canon development and implying that canon development is the same fan development is making a high to low comparison, thus is a negative state of action, and is thus degrading to the story and characters. Also, to be degrading does not have to have an actual effect on the content. “Degrading” is the only the type of statement you are making. It should also be noted that the term canon is used to describe what is factual within a fictional setting. And the one way to prove something is canon is to be able to support it through events in the series.
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>ice enemy
>is strong against fire
>weak against ice
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>>337649557
Which is why the not all official content is canon, and some series have multiple canons.

The main reason that alternative pairings are degrading to the characters is that it implies their feelings are weak and disposable. If the feelings between two characters are strong then they would not easily fall in love with other characters, which is what alternative pairs imply as they make direct implications about the characters due to the nature of being fan made content. And the same as it was before making a high to low comparison about the strength of the character’s feelings is a negative action, and thus a degrading type of statement. Not all deviation from canon is a negative implication, mind you. Only concept that in some way implies negative things about the topic. In addition, not all interaction between characters is “shipping” interaction. Only specific events have romantic connotations, even in subtext based shows. But, even under the false assumption that all interaction is “shipping” interaction pairing the characters with their non-canon counterparts is still degrading to them as you are comparing the high amount of interaction they have with their canon pair to the low amount they have with the alternative pair, again, being high to low, which makes it degrading.

It also does not matter if you “seriously” like the alternative pair or not, because no matter what you personally feel about the pair you are still making the negative implications about the feelings of the canon pair. Sort of like saying “I was just kidding about you being worthless and disposable, haha, it was just a joke.” The intention/verbal confirmation and logical consequence of the actions do not match.
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>elements other than H, He, Li, Be, etc.
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>>337649512
BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
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>>337649460
Why are you going on about this, my man?
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>>337643773
>He got his trademark clothes by trading his richman's duds so he can get 5 bongs
Keep going
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>>337649512
>Physics
ok
>kinetics
physics
>Electromagnetics
physics
>Thermodynamics
physics
>Jackie Chan
physics
>Biology
chemistry, which is applied physics
>Botany
Biology which is just applied biology, which is applied physics
>Zoology
see above
>Geology
a meme
>Meterology
a bigger meme
>Astronomy
closer to a real science, but still applied physics
>Chemistry
physics
>Inorganic Chemistry
physics
>Electrochemistry
physics
>Analytical Chemistry
Physics


so
you only named 1 science
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>>337649632
To pair the characters with multiple people you are also treating them as interchangeable and disposable, which is highly insulting because it make many negative statements about them; that their feelings feelings are weak, that their character as a “person” has no real substance, that they’re not capable of being faithful to anything, etc etc. If you claim that any situation you put the characters in will lead to romantic development then that’s the same as saying all romance involving them is cheap. Basic math will tell you this. It’s a simple 1 to 1 ratio, as delta when exchanged is zero that mean everything is worth because no gain is possible. To simplify it further, you are claiming that there is nothing special about the canon relationship because it could easily be replaced. And of course, implying a strong relationship is nothing special is a high to low comparison, thus it is degrading statement.

In closing; please be aware of the difference between an opinion and a stance. An opinion is based on non-factual information. And all of the things stated here are based on the logical cohesion of events and their results and can be repeated by other parties using the same process, thus they are facts. Also, as stated before, just saying words alone is not proof of deduction, so simply calling something “wrong” is meaningless unless you support why it’s wrong. And if something is an opinion rather than a fact, you can prove it’s an opinion by pointing out the flaw in the logical process where a factor depends solely on a personal value rather than a value determined through the development of events

-anonscans’ Debate Club
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>>337643115
>>No game just has "heat" as an element.

warframe
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>>337649769
>>Jackie Chan
>physics
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>>337649709
Because elementautist is ACK aka anonscans
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>>337649525
But I'm saying there is, so where does that leave us?
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>>337649769
Are you retarded how the fuck is biology physics? How the fuck can you explain Mitosis through physics alone
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>>337649870
I love warframes usage of elemental powers i put viral on most of my weapons, so good
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>>337649769
Do you consider there to be only one science, which is physics, or do you accept any others? Because if you're asking for 10 but you know there's less than that you're being a deceitful prick.
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>>337650010
i already told you. you're wrong. it's not a matter of opinion, point of view, context, culture, or philosophy.
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>that one faggot that comes into an RPG element thread and brings up the periodic table
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>>337649769
Physics is just applied mathematics. Since we're being overly reductionist.
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>>337650146
Its ok anon he doesn't actually like video games.
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>>337650146
>that faggot that thinks it's okay for games to be retarded because "m-muh fiction"
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>>337650163
Mathematics is just applied Logic.
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>>337650030
through the numerous individual chemical reactions that make it up, which can be mathematically proven through techniques in a normal grad level physical chemistry course, which is derived ultimately from physics

of course, it would take a while

>>337650163
this is true
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>game uses the term "frost" instead of ice in 90% of cases
>shadowfrost is an element
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>>337650146
name 15 elements
no google faggot
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>>337650030
You're joking right?

Mitosis at the microlevel is just chemistry
Chemistry at the microlevel is just physics

They are abstractions to describe higher level phenomena that would be impossible to understand if looked at in that scope.
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>>337650131
You need to re-assess your definition of the word "wrong"
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>>337649179
>chemistry is a soft science

Nigger, that's not what "soft science" means. Soft science is colloquial for social science. Hard science is colloquial for natural science. Chemistry is a natural science, ergo, it is hard science.
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>>337650289
>>337650030
of course, mitosis still isn't fully understood, which is why we have meme-tier fields like biology to dumb it down for brainlets by reducing it to le interphase, prophase, prometaphase, metaphase, etc
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>>337650268
And logic is using your brain, and using your brain is biology, and biology is just applied physics, and physics is just applied math, and so on and so forth.
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>>337650268
oh my god. ITS TURTLES ALL THE WAY DOWN
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>>337650342
Not him, but I'll give it a shot.
Hydrogen, Helium, Sodium, Gold, Silver, Platinum, Carbon, Oxygen, Chlorine, Fluorine, Nitrogen, Magnesium, Iron, Mercury, Silicon.
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>>337650342
hydrogen, helium, lithium, beryllium, carbon, oxygen, silicon, nitrogen, iron, sodium, potassium, magnesium, manganese, boron, platinum, arsenic, tin, zinc, copper, chromium, aluminum, titanium, francium
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>>337642915
Oh yeah...
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>>337650460
and you need to re-assess your definition of the word "element"
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>HUUURR DUUR I CAN'T INTO CLASSICAL AND ABSTRACT ELEMENTS
>MY HIGHSCHOOL CHEMISTRY EDUCATION IS BETUR
>I WIN INTERNETS ARGUMENT


Autism the thread.
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>>337650473
that's a meme definition propagated by retards that want to convince themselves that their major is rigorous.

talk to any physics professor or physics student about the "other hard sciences" and they'll just laugh and laugh. chem majors are the butt of many jokes, but not as much as bio majors.

yes, physics profs and lecturers shit talk chemistry, at least here at UCI, and rightfully so
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>>337650131
>>Fantasy
>>Not a matter of opinion

Sure thing buddy
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>>337650637
So I take it you feel right at home here?
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>>337643051
this anon called it.
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>>337644364
holy shit, why are these comics so good?
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>>337650656
it isn't.
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>frost and ice are two different elements
Actually I only know one game that did this. It still pissed me off.
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>>337650646
And all the business majors laugh at Science. Half the time in school, a quarter the effort, yet triple the pay and hire rate!
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>>337650623
I have. The word I am using which is spelled e l e m e n t has nothing to do with the periodic table or the constituents that compose reality and it is perfectly valid to use the word in this way, just as b o w can mean part of a boat or a weapon to shoot arrows.
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>>337643363
Where has wind and flying been considered separated things.
And if they are, how do they manage to make them look different?
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>>337650932
your definition was wrong when it was invented thousands of years ago, and it's just as wrong today.
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>>337650850
what game?
I know WoW uses frost for everything, but I can't think of one that would use both
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>>337650930
>Business Major
>Jobs
kek
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>>337650309
Fatima?
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>>337650930
this is also a meme, unless you go to a top 3, or are doing math, econ, or cs on the side

t. around many business majors. only 2 made 100k+ starting, and they went to Ivies.
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>>337651067
It was Magicka. The main different was frost was a spray and slowed and ice was more physical and did more damage.
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>>337650850
DC Universe Online already has Ice as a power since the release, and they will be implementing the Water power.
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>>337651062
Prove it.
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>>337651062
Words are not logical or objective, they are contrived. The definition of a word cannot be wrong once it is adapted and put to use for thousands of years. The formation of language is descriptive not prescriptive.
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>>337651083
shadowfrost is the damage type for a bunch of death knight spells in WoW
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>>337651062
Alright. Well, you did it.

You've bested him, or should I say, each other. At this point, you're just going back in forth in a rather boring manner, just arguing semantics over the word "element." and I'm getting tired. Now, you better buckle down because I'm about to join the fray. It's like they always say, cut a snake off and two more take its place. You may be a little confused. You see, I've been watching this little exchange that you too have been having, with great interest. You had great chemistry, I'll concede to that. It was entertaining, really. You see, these past months have been oh so very boring for me. Nothing captures my interest anymore. I lead a monotonous life, surrounded by utter troglodytes at my job at Best Buy. I hate the modern world so much, but I'm helpless to change it. Watching and reading shitposts and arguments on /v/ are one of the only things keeping me sane. So, you may be wondering why I'm even responding to you. Well, you two ended the argument prematurely, before something truly interesting could blossom from it.

So, I've decided to take his place. Be warned, though he was easy prey, I won't be so foolish. This will be one of many tests on the these boards, a fight for survival against an intellectual equal. I won't go easy on you, and I hope you do the same for me. Be advised, I'm transferring from a community college to UC Santa Cruz in Philosophy and Neuroscience, so I'm fairly well-equipped for battle.

And so, let us begin. Your move.
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>>337641839
>2016
>Not understanding solvents and polar molecules

Nigga I know the diff and I skipped chemistry in high school.
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>>337651076
>>337651132
You both grossly over-estimate pay rates, and demand for Physics majors. Unless you go into engineering, you're going to be flipping burgers.

That is okay though. Once you're done your undergrad you will see.
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>>337650804
Dude come on, we get it, you're retarded. No need to slap me in the face with it.
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>>337651339
In WoW multi-schools deal their damage as one or the other for each enemy hit based on their lowest resistance.
However, no matter which school it actually deals damage in it still benefits from damage bonuses from any school.
Kinda weird, just wanted to point it out.
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>>337651192
wasn't it cold?
like frost was just cold magic, but ice was actual physical frozen water
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>>337651364
>that you too have
Two*
Three*
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