Remember Phantasy Star Online? We just started a little /v/ group not long ago, full of spergy little autists who remember this game fondly. We're playing on the Ephinea private server, which is pretty awesome. They've made a few quality of life changes, as well - if you played PSO and got nothing to do tonight, why not come check it out? It's only like a 500mb download, too
>>337636103
>found random game named /v/idya with a password
>picked the age-old /v/ multiplayer password
>worked
no vidya was found though
>>337636796
Did you ask?
>>337637053
Did not because anons reported there was a group that had not joined yet, so I left after that because I didn't want to intrude or be crap.
>>337637203
You could have dropped some meseta :<
How funny. I'm playing right now on my GameCube
>>337637248
yeah I didn't really think about it at the time, if it happens again I can do thatfuck mags.
>>337637203
sounds like they were scrubs
>>337637510
Switch over to PC, man. Playing on an upscaled game is so much nicer, combined with the Xbox controller
>>337637542
We have a discord if you want, as well. People typically do that to find games
>>337637510
come play with us!
>>337637510
psobb has a ton more items, and new areasalso no FSOD, so don't have to worry about memory card corruption
>>337637654
>>337637552
But... .My items ;_;
>>337637725
I played BB for a while. It was neat.
I'm trying to figure out this character transfer shit maybe I'm retarded
>>337637890
We all have to learn to let go at some point, anon.
Don't worry.
Gamecube will still be there for you. Forever. Yours for all time.
I would kill and rape to play a modern phantasy star 5 not this mmo dogshit
>>337637890
>secret gear
>142
feels bad man
good otherwise, though.
>>337638095
bro, PSO is an MORPG at best
4 player count isn't shit
Has sega even made a new non online RPG in the last 10 years?
>>337638107
Can't find anything better. Feels way bad.
The reasons you love PSO are the exact same reasons people play Destiny.
Destiny = PSO with arguably better though different gameplay.
As much as I love PSO, I can't go through the grind again. It's very painful to start from the beginning, especially when you got nobody to play with.
Great areas and music though, really wish PSO2 didn't suck so hard.
>>337638391
That's fine.
But Destiny costs money.
>>337638426
After like 5 years, the grind isn't too bad. I'm having fun. And dude, we have a gigantic /v/ group to play with. We started this project like 3? days ago and now we already have 15 people on Discord, despite me not really being active and trying to pull more people in.
I say you just jump in, say hi in Discord and install the game at your own pace. Some of these autists are playing 24/7 and nearing the Ultimate level, but I'm far more casual
I miss comfy games like this.
They have gone extinct.
>>337638391
does destiny have crazy lobbies with racist as fuck symbol chats?
>>337638426
Lots of people will help you on this server, not just /v/tards, the PSO2 drop mode means people don't have to distrust everyone since drops you see are only for you.there's double EXP right now until sunday, and that might extend another week if people kill more monsters
gonna try it out
how many people are online?
I played the demo of some phantasy star game on the xbox 360
it was uber comfy
I wish I could go play some of these old MMOs I missed at the time
>>337638391
>Call of Duty in space
no thank you.
>>337638570
You should see my PSN inbox. Also Im pretty sure if been racially profiled for my loadout and gestures.
Hes got a point though. Which game has you grinding through the same four areas of increasingly difficult enemy recolors for hours on end for the slim chance or a super rare item that might not even be usable for you based on some invisible rng god with the character choices of a Close Range Type, Ranged Marksman Type, and Magic type while being either baseline Human, Synthetic Manmade Robo, or supernatrually sensitive mutant offshoot?
>>337638741
Phantasy Star Universe. RIP, I wish the free trial was still around - or even the live game
>>337638740
Not many, I think there's only 1 full party and I'm working on getting my game working on my laptop. We have a discord here, as well - https://discord.gg/010NN4N1NjMVCSO9v
>>337638740
>go to http://ephinea.pioneer2.net/
>top left corner
It's real time, I think.
>>337638859
I dont think he said "Ghosts", anon.
>>337638918
You forgot the tiny sentient utility robot that floats behind you and give yous stat bonuses.
Is there somebody on right now? I'm downloading the installer as we speak, and I'm gonna try and get back into the game. It's gonna be tough not having all my rare drops or my 147 level RAcast, but if I have a fun party to join up with, then I don't mind the grind.
>>337638918
On paper they certainly sound similar in that regard, but they will still never top nazi imagery being broadcast to everyone in the lobby with no way to stop it other than being in a game or changing lobbies.
I miss the official pso gc server days where no one got banned
Guys, I never played PSO, but I absolutely adored PSU on the xbox. Is having never played PSO that big of a detriment?
Also do you all have "Normal" "Hardcore" or "Sandbox" character accounts?
I miss my Fortetecher on PSU and I tried playing PSO2 but the fact so much is untranslated made me feel like I was missing important things.
>>337639268
Sadly, I'm trying to get the game to work but I'm at my parent's for the night and I can't get the game to fucking load. I'll be down to play, but it won't be until tomorrow unfortunately
>>337639467
Normal. PSO, imo, is a more challenging game and thus the better game. PSU just felt a little too hand-holdy and like there wasn't a real challenge, although the game was way better. But PSO is different in a good, more challenging way.
https://youtu.be/XWO9Lv95_d8
https://youtu.be/QAbkBGaEGBA
https://youtu.be/G3vzsJyjTG8
>>337639634
too good
>>337639379
Should clarify that I have dozens of DAYS into each game and love them both equally. Just pointing out that they're kind of the same game when you think about it and thats A-OKAY. Its a formula that works!
>>337639467
Coming from PSU you'd have to get used to stiffer controls, no PAs and stat caps. They are still very similar games, though, and things like grinding weapons are a lot better in PSO. But, at the same time, you may never see max level disks.
>>337639618
Is PSO really any challenging? It can be hard when you are alone and undergeared, but a party destroys anything with few issues.
>>337639909
Totally. Everything up until Ultimate is a challenge. Once your mag starts to get powerful and you start getting red drops, that difficulty begins to drop off. Low level parties in normal can still get wiped out in forest.
>>337639813
Maybe I'll pick up destiny for my pee ess quadruple when it goes dirt cheap again. I might like it then.
>>337639909
ultimate, without proper gear and leveling, is a challenge. Even at higher levels it can still be a challenge, depending on your setup.
>>337640142
Its already $10 for the base game but youll want the $40 with all the DLC to get the end game content.
Trust me, if you love PSO like the rest of us the game will hook you. It has Halo CE tier gameplay with a RNG loot system that makes you feel that same giddy glee you did when you saw your first red item box every time a Legendary Engram drops.
random protip I have about grinding PSO levels or mag levels in particular
I've been listening to stories on youtube, just thinks like scary shit to tell in the dark
It passes the time, probably helps that i dont get spooked though.
>>337639634
>1:12 on the 2nd track
I came
>>337640271
Seems like it mostly depends on whether you have freeze weapons, since bosses are not an issue for parties, and megid casters are just an annoyance when there's someone with moon atomizer or reverser around.
>>337640352
But does it have the "AW SHIT IT FINALLY DROPPED"but its actually a photon dropeffect?!
>>337640416
I do this a lot when I play video games after a shitty or a busy day. I put on podcasts or even an interview and just try to blast all of my senses with some sort of stimuli
>>337640352
Seconded. I think Ive killed Valus Ta'aurec the same number of times Ive killed the Dragon and Id still run them both ten times over again.
Why do you hate PSO2?
>>337640535
You mean the "AWWW SHIT EXOTIC ENGRAM but its not for your class but at least you got an exotic shard out of it" feeling?
>>337640639
Because they're never going to give it a proper release in the west. And the shit that's there? I definitely don't want it.
>>337640639
>>337640639
Becase SEGA Won't localize, or at the very least assist with a fucking fan translation of it so westerns can play it.
It's not like they can't touch our fucking money the faggots.
We can still pay them for a product.
This is why SEGA's consoles ultimately failed.
They lack the balls and the determination for the wstern market IMO
>>337640639
Because it doesnt have a NA release
>>337640639
I don't hate it. I just think it's boring.
None of the fucking content is challenging, either. The gameplay is better, yeah, but you're never in threat of dying or wiping, especially since all the meat-of-the-game content is 12-manand the newest one has infinite self-revives and an impossible to run out time limit.
>go through all the hoops
>finally turn on the game
>stuck on loading screen
>>337640712
Sega of Yurop said they're "working on solutions" to get it localized recently.
I don't know why they don't just do what FFXI has always done, and just package all client updates with EN and JP + whatever other languages at the same time, where the servers are all hosted in japan.
Don't give a fuck about lag, just want to play with proper translations.
>>337640639
I still can't get used to the new controls, and it's bugging me because playing the game even faster is what I always wanted.
Can you play this on a toaster and how do i get started sorry im not computer savvy
>>337640852
>PSO
Likely improper update, or you used the wrong .exe.
>PSO2
Remove the shitter patch.
>>337640918
yes, and click the link someone else posted already; there's an install there
>>337640918
Unless the toaster is like 14 years old you're probably fine
Make sure to turn off advanced effect and set fog to vertex fog in advanced options, just in case.
>>337640639
Because sitting in the lobby waiting for EQs is shit, and now all the EQs are shit as well. You're not even hunting for rares, you're waiting for a quest where you can get more items that'll help you progress towards a free rare, and none of the items are even unique because they're all just damage % modifiers.
Stuck here, what do I do?
Registered account, patched game, but it just keeps me here when I start game.
>>337640639
It doesn't capture the same design and magic the predecessor had.
>>337641130
Same, this is really pissing me off.
>>337640992
Im sorry i looked through the thread and no link. I really want to play.
>>337641130
>>337641178
When you anons start, does it say EPHINEA PSO 1.6.somethinglike that on the bottom before you click start?
>>337640639
Because there's no challenge and the only EQs that aged really well were Mining Base Despair and Demise
>>337641146
I think it does just fine.
>>337641410
When I'm at the main menu, the bottom left says !DLL ERROR!.
>>337641410
The launcher says 1.6, yes
The Title Screen says !dll error!
>>337641543
>>337641705
That's your problem. Likely your antivirus (if you have one) is blocking Ephinea.dll from attaching to the executable. This is normal, because Ephinea has some client tweaks like announcing drops via sound, and putting them on the radar.
Whitelist the ephinea directory on your antivirus or disable AV when loading pso.
When you turn it off or whitelist ephinea, restart the game through the launcher. It will re-download ephinea.dll if it got removed or altered.
>>337636103
someone link me what Ineed. Been playing since the dreamcast I need my MP fix
>>337641837
>>337641358
Main page:
http://ephinea.pioneer2.net/
Account creation page:
http://ephinea.pioneer2.net/register/
Make sure to select "Normal" account, unless you're 2hardcore and enjoy losing your character upon death
Game download:
http://files.pioneer2.net/Ephinea_PSOBB_Installer.exe
If you have an antivirus, disable it when booting PSO, or whitelist the ephinea pso directory so you don't get a false positive.
>>337641804
Thank you based Anon of troubleshooting
>>337642076
Ty dood
how i join /v/ group?
So i downloaded from ultima and created an account now what?
>>337642173
I am not fully aware of how to do this
>>337637598 this anon
says there's a Discord server
But, I'd look for vidya named games in the lobby. You could create one too.
>>337642204
>ultima
This thread is about playing on Ephinea, not ultima.
see >>337642076
>>337641464
Earth was a mistake though
>>337641804
Thank you anon. It works on this end.
>>337642518
Name one good thing from Episode 4
>>337642518
It works for what it is, now that the great evil is defeated. Though slice of life skits are annoying.
>>337642654
Summoner.
>>337642151
>>337642609
just helpin some bros out, I had this problem too when I first played; enjoy your vidya!
>>337642712
>Summoner
>>337642654
Phantom Yamato. At least it's looks fucking cool
oh god what am i doing how do i missions
oh fuck
Meh, PSU was an improvement in nearly every way. Its just nostalgia autists who keep bringing up the inferior game
i'm gonna head out of the game i'm in, i'll be in fodra block 1 lobby 8. symbol chat to get my attention cause i'll probably be tabbed out!
>>337642998
fuck off you're wrong
>>337642998
>PSU was an improvement in nearly every way
Get the fuck out of my secret base.
Oh fuck, I should have learned how to play this on PC before diving in. If anyone sees a HUnewearl named Demannu acting retarded, that's me.
>>337642712
>now that the great evil is defeated.
Hitsugi almost got possessed by darker photons though in the beginning and Profound Darkness is stuck in a timeloop with Persona. Plus too Mother Brain/Trinity is eventually going to get possessed by PD or a brand new Dark Falz.
not really sure how to actually play the game
just take on quests at the lady and then teleport to the forest?
can people just join my game when i made a party?
>>337643203
That's the point, especially if the MBD4 retcon means it and Aurora still haven't happened in the story yet.
>>337642998
PSU was a different game both mechanically and lacked the same atmosphere PSO did.
They're similar but not similar enough to compare in a meaningful way.
Early PSU was buyer's remorse central though. Game wasn't fun to play until the expansion at the earliest, and it didn't really kick off until they dropped PS2 support and started actually updating the game with things from PSPo2/i.
By that point English PS2/PC service was already dead and xbox was just a shithole.
The last year or so of Japan's service when it went free2play was really fun though.
>>337636103
why didn't you play on ultima? or are exp rates too high.
>>337642965
To play story missions you have to select "One Person Mode", which is like single player on V1/V2/GC etc. Monsters have lower health and its easier. Good for grinding drops from some quests. Once you're in one person mode, go to the guild counter right where you spawn, to the left. She'll give you a list. There are also some missions you can play online only, and offline only.
I don't recommend story though unless you're bored or need to unlock something like monster weapon creation.
>>337643196
Use a controller and map it like the console version you're used to. It plays exactly the same. You will probably be thrown off by WASD, because it doesn't instantly turn or backpedal like the analog stick does.
>>337643276
You can use a teleporter pad to go down to forest without starting a quest. This way, people can join your game. If you start a quest, other anons cannot join.
>>337642998
>tfw played pso since v2
>tfw didnt know psu existed until after servers shutdown
at least someones working on a private server. You can still play the game offline, and it looks exactly like psop1, but i never played that online either
>>337643342
yes
also ephinea has more features and a better community
>>337638391
destiny is killing the exact same humanoid over and over
pso has better enemy variety
>>337643325
There was a real sense of community before AOTI came out. I doubt anyone here or on 4chan actually played psu from the beginning in october 2006, but stuff like 1up, firebreak, the fucking bugs in seabed needing a full team, things like that that everyone cooperated together with. AOTI improved everything and made the game a lot better but v1 PSU was pretty good still, just took more effort to get into. Anyway once AOTI rolled in and all the new classes and events rolled out, the game quality was going straight up. Everyone would heard around neudaiz and white beast and I'd just go around collecting materials on parum and moatoob-would sell catilium and goldania and shit for 300k a pop.
PSO has a better atmosphere and music, but thats about it. Theyre different games yes, but I found PSU to offer way more diversity and content.
>>337643373
I am trying to find how to get to the forest, I made a party, chose a mission from that lady and now Im in some town with a shop and a check room and hospital
Haven't played this game since I was like younger than 10 back on the CG. Worth spending a few hours on for nostalgias sake?
>>337638391
What the fuck? How is Destiny like pso? No seriously. The gameplay for both games are nothing alike.
>>337643745
Disregard this I am literally retarded
Could I bring over my lvl 145 from my GC save? Lol
>>337643745
When you exit the guild counter where you got the quest, go to the immediate left between the two guards before the hospital. That's actually a door that will slide up. Go in there.
>>337643826
where are you? come back out to the lobby, hit the teleporter in the back, and go to lobby 8
>>337643969
no, unfortunately!
>>337644015
Damn well, it'd be fun, but I can't see myself starting over in that game after having sunk so much into one character.
I was one of the OG dudes in the /v/antasy star group. Most of you are alright. I haven't had much time to get on, but if people are on the fence, Ephinea is a fucking great server with an awesome community. Ultima and SCHThack are trash now. If you're on either one, just transfer your character, take the level and item hit and have a blast.
>>337644135
>most of you are alright
>don't come to Ragol tomorrow
Hey RO-53. Sorry for ditching you. Trying to get some friends into the game. They wanted a party member.
t. big blue robot guy.
>>337643726
>I doubt anyone here or on 4chan actually played psu from the beginning in october 2006
Please. I bought the PS2 version before the servers even went up and had a 25ft ethernet cable stretched across my livingroom from the next room over just to play.
It was good in a certain way, but definitely lacking. The SEGA-tier "update" schedule was the worst. That slow drip of content being unlocked off the disc. The first couple months there was literally only De Ragan and Onmagoug to run while Moatoob wasn't accessible.
Since only the base classes existed until December that year everyone was stuck using C and B grade weapons so when Moatoob was released the enemy defense made people's attacks particularly worthless.
It was definitely an experience, but it wasn't particularly diverse until MUCH later. By that point people already felt put off and didn't want to touch the game again.
>>337644097
I got to 109 in about 2 weeks. Not super difficult, especially when double exp hits. The levels arent really the hard part imo.
>>337644240
I'll photon burst you last.
>>337643726
I only played it after the Japanese version became free to play because it was literally forbidden (in the unfigurative sense of the word) to say it's a good game in some parts of the internet, and I didn't know better.
This is why I'm never, ever listening to a Phantasy Star fan again.
>>337644262
it's okay, i'll see you around sometime! didn't even get your guild card ohwell
>>337644285
I remember that. I think the xbox one actually got updates faster than the ps2/pc one. I remember the ps2/pc one being a total fucking wreck, filled with garbage hackers and billing problems. Ill never forget all the asshurt during MAG with error 65. Too bad hackers had to go and ruin yet another PS game, at least the jap side were more banhappy. I played the jp pc version the last 2 years of it. The first year could overall be considered dry even though there were great events, but this is what AOTI fixed straight up. Sheer more variety in damn near everything-weapons, classes, PAs, areas, rooms, and so on. I spent so much time gambling in the casino and hunting for rare missions, PSU was my favorite
>>337644532
Im a little confused. Are you saying you avoided it because you saw PS fans call it bad?
>>337644532
As previously posted, the early days were trashy and it only got better as time went on.
A lot of people felt hurt by how bad the early days were and never took another look at the game. The expansion was a massive quality jump but I couldn't get any old friends to play again. "Fool me once, shame on you. etc"
If you liked it though, I'd recommend emulating Phantasy Star Portable 2 on the PSP.
If you're ok with moonrunes you could also try the standalone expansion Phantasy Star Portable 2 Infinity.
>>337644723
I didn't just "saw" it. On PSO-W and GameFAQs you'd have people enumerate reasons why it's a garbage game, and others would rarely try to correct it (I assume because of the subscription costs). And if someone did, you'd hear how the gameplay is casual garbage and how atmosphere in a different game is different.
I mean, it's my fault I didn't try the demo, but basically yes. Though I hear AotI in its last years was much better than the game was in the beginning.
I even bought a DS instead of PSP because apparently Portable was "PSU trash" and PSZ was the true authentic successor.
I tried signing up, but I was never sent an email. I checked my spam folder and everything.
>>337645138
Phantasy Star Zero was a really fun game so you didn't make a bad choice, and the first Phantasy Star Portable was basically just a portable PSU with less grind.
Portable 2 was actually a successor to Universe itself with new weapons and gameplay mechanics such as shields, dodging, and Photon Arts for guns.
I'm having issues getting the game to launch
Whenever I start from the client the game will pop open for a second and then close.
I've been playing solo for awhile now and I'm just thinking DAMN I want to do some good ol coop
I'm level 48. Is it worth doing the Hunters Boost stuff? The quests are pretty annoying to solo since they're clearly geared towards party play.
>>337645456
Try turning off your antivirus or whitelist the ephinea pso folder?
>>337644965
I've been playing PSO2 since it came out and tried restarting PSO a number of times. I don't think I can spread myself to a yet another Phantasy Star game, especially for a handheld I don't have.
>>337645397
PSZ was nice, yeah, though farming SHET over and over killed it for me. The game needed either better online functionality, or less boring single player content.
>>337645456
Error : Can't find DisplayMode
Error : Can't use format [D3DFMT_A8R8G8B8]
this is the error i'm gettig
>>337645558
I'm planning on slapping my face against them once I hit Ult, but right now the only benefit I would get from them is a bit of help farming a Delsaber's Right Arm.
>>337640796
>an impossible to run out time limit.
How does that work?
if anyone is interested in a party but can't find anyone (i'm currently busy with three others), join the discord!
https://discord.gg/010NN4N1NjMRVU4SI
>>337645605
>especially for a handheld I don't have
Well I have news for you. PSP Emulation has come a long way thanks to PPSSPP and actually runs games better than the actual handheld as it can bump up the internal resolution to make things not a grainy pixely mess.
>>337645613
Google seems to say it might be that you have out of date drivers, but that's from 2008...
could try installing this as a longshot.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=8109
>>337645737
It has a 60 minute timer and everybody's in mechs for the actual boss part.
For the record, the mech part lasts about 4 minutes before Yamato is dead.
>>337645737
You have about 45 minutes to complete the mission.
You spend 5~10 minutes battling towards the Yamato then about 5~10 minutes longer fighting it. Even if you die in the A.I.S. you respawn after 7 seconds then go back to slapping the boss.
There's zero penalty and zero chance of failure. It's an interactive cutscene.
>>337645650
I see, I know they boost the drop rates, but I'm unsure how worth they really are. I'm just running the side quests since it's been FOREVER since I've actually done them and wanted something to chill to.
>tfw game drops me a fucking DB saber, easily one of the most poverty rares in the game
>I still have to use it because it's better than my Pallasch
WHO KEEPS MAKING THESE SHILL THREADS? I SWEAR IMA FIND YOU IN GAME.
>>337645737
Yamato has a 50 minutes time limit, and the AIS phase has you infinitely respawn, just like Magatsu Sai. Unlike that quest, though, you are not under pressure to do your best and kill three very hard bosses in the span of 7 minutes.
Sega learned the wrong lesson from how shitty the players are at the best part of the game.
>>337645138
PSZ sucked ass. PSP was a complete downgrade to PSU, ruined the pp bar and made the garbage chain system which slowed down the pace completely and broke some classes
You missed out on AOTI my man
>>337645878
already have that installed
It seems that the game wants to use my integrated graphics card but I'm using my AMD card at the moment (fuck laptops man)
>>337646051
No idea, bro, I was playing on ephinea before these threads popped upand im totally ok with this.
>>337646021
>>337646064
Yamato sounds pretty disappointing.
Profound Darkness was so good when I first did it that I basically stopped playing a little after. The nostalgic music(as in an arrangement of my favorite IDOLA track) and the boss itself really trumped Loser for me(though still an awesome fight). I should get back to PSO2 sometime.
>>337646116
I didn't exactly miss on it, I played it right until the PSO2 servers went live.
PSZ was okay, though I wouldn't call it any good compared to PSO, PSU or PSO2.
>>337646179
>wanting /v/ shitters on the serverThat anime kid is already enough of a memelord
>>337646163
Nevermind I was trying to run it at a weird resolution that was the issue
>>337646163
oh, maybe you could try forcing CCC to use the AMD card instead of integrated?
>>337646245
PD was a rather disappointing boss. It's hard if your MPA really sucks ass and you are the only good player, but if there's a remote whiff of competence it goes down in seconds.
The music was also disappointing. I love Phantasy Star music in general, but I expected something original for the ultimate fight. Resonant Catastrophe was a good consolation, but that quest isn't even canon yet!
>>337646301
if these /v/ anons are actually shitters they'll quit long before they'll annoy you
anime is definitely a meme lord, there's no doubt.
How vanilla is ephinea? I am too used to various schthack features and I am aware drops/combo unlocks/lots of tech boosting gear is custom/improved
>>337646576
Super vanilla. Ephinea is more about quality of life features than customizing. It's supposed to be close to vanilla as possible concerning drop charts and items.
>>337646470
Really? I didn't find it difficult myself, but I still enjoyed it a ton.
Sounds like NO ONE enjoys Yamato or Ep4 for that matter, though. Sucks because I really liked the opening sequence. It seems they really like to use that motiff from immortal feather a lot, but has there even been a proper arrangement of the entire track?
>when your mag feed tryharding pays off and you're on your way to a Rati perfectly
>>337646674
I like the AIS phase, but that's because of AIS. The boss itself is okay, but it feels like they "fixed" everything that was hard about Magatsu Sai with it. Like, it could be hard if you just make it faster here and there, but with no punishment for death it's still meaningless, no matter how hard you're getting raped while you are on deck.
>>337646881
>tryharding
nope just standard operating procedure.
Gotta have perfect mag or gtfo.
>>337647004
You're god damn right.
That reminds me, I should check what I need to do for materials. Haven't used any other than HP since it doesn't count against base stat mats.
>>337647117
http://www.pioneer2.net/community/index.php?threads/ndws-guide-for-stat-maxing-characters.421/
also, at least its not yet another sato, because sato is obviously the only mag
>>337646116
>PSP was a complete downgrade to PSU
Go back to /pso2g/ you fucking memer
I used to play PSO when I went to my cousin's house, we just kept killing that first boss every time I came over because we never saved my progress. Going to try this shit out
>>337647252
Fuck that. I think Rati has different triggers anyways.
>>337647361
rati is good for casts, as are most cell mags
I use nidra for non casts, because its a rad-ass scorpion
For other anons who are like "wuts a mag lol"
this is the best page i've found for mags in forever
http://pso.wikia.com/wiki/MAG
live it, love it, confuse it with why does section id matterit does because "fuck you that's why" - sonic team
How do I set up a contoller?
"Pad button config" is greyed out
>>337647963
Gotta go in-game anon. Open the menu with End, you can set it up in the lobby.
When it says Left/Middle/Right button, that's something you see when you're in an area. I'd set those buttons to match your controller so you're not confused.
>>337647963
Make sure your pad is recognized by windows first. You have to have it plugged in before starting the game.
>>337648214
>>337648089
got it
thanks senpai
>mfw reliving the horrors of trying to raise a mag
>>337640639
>overused EQ system
>scheduled shit down the throat
>seasonal event being EQ plus "chance" for dank weapon drop
>space stone collector simulator (pre EP4)
>to-do list simulator (EP4)
>earth plus jpop BGM
>anything past EP3 story
>anime
>summoner
>regulary nerf quest in favor of baiting more casul
>>337648392
The only downside to PSO, imo.
Even when you have the money, it's a slog unless you use a celled mag.
>>337648589
>>337648392
If you guys ask around I'm sure someone will give a rappy cell for free, they're not uncommon after all. It makes for a quick first mag until you can grind out a better one.
>>337646287
Its just that using the DS as a base anything...especially a coop 3D arpg is kind of odd. The psp games are much better than psz but theyre still all condensed lesser versions of pso/psu/pso2. I cant really stand pso2 anymore either myself. End game is completely boring. EQs are the only thing that give the game any worth and those are boring after so long
>>337648589
Materials are even worse, since they could never be bothered to add any indication of your cap or how many you've used.
>start playing PSO again with cousin
>he doesn't play as often as I do, but fine enough where I can solo Normal-V Hard by myself without much difficulty
>reach Ultimate level range
>cousin stops playing
>don't have anyone else to play with because don't know anyone online
>I'm a HUmar
>Normal-VHard is worthless to me now
>can solo Ultimate Single Player Forest easily
>can solo single Cave, but it's tedious
>everything else is impossible by yourself
>stop playing
>>337646881
>Rati
Best mag.
>>337648589
I'm just trying to make sure I have the right stats. Like, I don't know if my ranger can make use of the POW stat, or ATP, or ATA. Or if I should increase DEX instead,
It's been so long.
>>337649004
In Ephinea PSO,
/matcountyou're welcome
Also, every 5 levels you can reverse engineer your stats to figure out your matcount.
>>337649169
A standard mag configuration is 5/150/45/0. Which are DEF/POW/DEX/MIND respectively
>>337646978
I see, that's a shame. I'd like to try it for myself and PSO2 was pretty fun and all but I always find myself going back to the good ol PSO1 grind, creating new characters and everything. I don't think I would do that with any of the other games in the franchise or many games in general. It's just really fun.
>>337649307
>A standard mag configuration is 5/150/45/0. Which are DEF/POW/DEX/MIND respectively
If that's a good beginning for RAcasts and Ramarls, then I'll take it.
>>337649307
You can reverse engineer that at any time if you have the private server running. That's how I found out you need an odd number in DEX to maximize your ATA as a FOmarl. Also thanks.
>>337649357
Yeah, I'm not sure if I'd recommend the game to anyone. Amazing gameplay, but so many wrong choices.
>>337642518
>Earth
Earth? Uh, I thought Phantasy Star 2 showed us that, well, we wouldn't be seeing earth any time soon, especially afterkilling all the remaining Earthlings, who happened to be supreme assholes
>>337649452
Pretty much any class that ever wants to deal damage will have that, and I use that on my ramarl
>>337649585
V101 gives 1.5 ATA, dunno if anything else does that, but thats why mags have uneven DEX for the most part.
there's a game open with one slot, name's vidya games and the password's rage
fodra block 1
>>337649629
It's a parallel universe Earth. No one knows what happened to the Earth in the PSO2 world the main character is in.
Also, PSO2 isn't connected to PSO directly. PSO, PSU and PSO2 are in different universes, and PSO may not even be related to Phantasy Star games.
>>337649042
Maybe stop being a casual and either branch out and get a team to play with, play in open games, or raise more ids to get the shit you need.
>>337649828
PSO has (real) Nei's claw and Rika's claw. Dunno if thats significant though.
>>337649585
>Amazing gameplay, but so many wrong choices.
Yup. Funny enough I feel like that can apply to any game in the series after PSO. PSO gameplay might be basic and old, but it still works well for me.
Though, I'd recommend PSU to people as well maybe, but unfortunately that game doesn't seem to have a legit working private server(I'm only aware of clementine which is still in progress).
i'm a filthy casual who never understood mags
redpill me on them
>>337650632
http://pso.wikia.com/wiki/MAG
mag gives stats
feed mag items get stats
see wiki page
>>337650632
FEED IT TRIMATES
MAX OUT POWER
FUCK EVERYTHING ELSE
UNEQUIP WEAPON AND PUNCH SHIT
Damn, I missed this game. It was fun playing with some of you folks tonight.
>>337650604
Well, I mean, I've been playing PSO2 for 5000 hours and am not giving up on it any time soon, but with so many flaws one has to be interested in very specific parts of the game to willingly dive into it.
I'm wary of recommending PSO to anyone, either. All my friends I tried getting into it dropped it very soon. And it's just a very unique game, for better or worse.
>>337650632
rare mags look nice but also do things when are at certain states like having 100 pb gauge or being at 1/10th of your total hitpoints. A proper rare mag will do things you want it to do at those states like shifta&deband you or make you invincible instead of using resta or NOTHING. The sato mag is particularly valuable due to the fact it makes you invincible for all of it's triggers so you can go nuts with berserk specials nearly all the time.
In addition making a rare mag with useful photon blasts and well placed stats is tricky depending on your class and section id so you will usually need to follow a specific guide to get anyway.
>>337640639
I could write a fucking novel on why PSO2 sucks.
tfw I can't bring over my racaseal with heaven striker unit mag and mille marteaux from ultima
fuck I miss it already lads, I busted my ass so fucking hard to make them
>>337651649
I had 3 rare cell mags. How do you think I feel?
I always wanted to get into this game, any beginner tips?
>>337652204
Always be wary of melee enemies, try and shoot every enemy if you're in a party (if you do even a little damage on an enemy that your party finishes off, you still get the EXP) save your meseta, buy some telepipes early so you can return to home base quickly, read up on how to grow MAGs (They're really useful) and overall just try not to rush into anyhing.
>>337651316
Definitely. I can't even really pin-point what exactly it is that brings me back every year or two when someone asks, so I usually just leave it out of any recommendations. Doesn't help that a lot of my friends have a distaste for older graphics that aren't indie pixel stuff either. Must just be a "You had to be there" or nostalgia type deal.
>>337645796
Too bad you can't make it run PSP1 at 60fps on online mode. Chugs it down to like 20. Shitsux.
>>337636103
Posting to see if my buddy imfat from shthck is still around.
>>337650632
step 1. hack mag to max stats cause fuck that grind shit
step 2. ur stronger now
>>337652601
SP is 60fps, multi mode is 30fps.
im more sad PSP1 doesnt have any of the AOTI content and the cap is 100. It plays way better than psp2 and infinity but the content just isnt fucking there. What a disappointment
>>337652204
be a fembot, if you arn't you are fucked. as soon as you can head to ep4 and grind normal mode for photon crystals, get around 8-10 and use them to run black paper's deal 2 until you get a last swan. This is the best weapon you will have for a long time.
>>337652601
I believe you can hack the PSP games to run at a full 60 without speeding up the game on PPSSPP. You'd probably have to find the values that dictate it yourself, though, as I can't seem to find them like I can with other emulated titles. Also while online apparently works on PPSSPP I'm not sure if it would work alongside a speed hack as well.
RAcaseals are my waifu.
>>337652204
Don't waste you enhancements on your weaker armor and weapons save those babies for the rare stuff.
>>337652956
Yeah, I read that too. I tried looking it up for PSP1 but couldn't find anything. I did not like PSP2, which of course DID have a code for it, but alas.
>>337652920
>It plays way better than psp2
Holy shit. Are you me? I thought I was the only one.
>>337653207
Chains and universal PP bar was a mistake
>>337653108
That sucks. I like PSP1 a lot too, and PSP2 just feels off at times.
I did just read that PSP2i actually bumps the 20fps max online to 30fps max. That would have been awesome to have in the original, I don't know why it was capped to 20 in the first place.
>>337653370
I play infinity on ppsspp wifi/mutliplayer and can confirm its 30fps, even on huge waves during max attack
>>337640639
>mfw TD3 is harder than TD4 (both are great though)
>Yamato is piss easy for a new EQ
I love the silly shit in PSO2 though like the dance festival. Makes the game feel alive,
>>337653338
Hell yeah, it was. I never did fully grasp the chain bullshit. Didn't it have a lot of weight to it like increase EXP and drop rate at higher numbers, but only if you finish them with a art? That shit was fucking dumb. If you didn't manage to kill them with an art before the chain disappeared, or you killed them too early, you lost out on the bonus. People would get furious if you did this online by accident, and the AI just fucking *loved* to cash in on the chain at early numbers even when you manipulated their AI. Shit was stupid.
>>337653513
That's good at least. The 20 in the original hurt my eyes.
>>337653513
I'd be willing to try PSP2i if we got an actual bloody translation.
>>337653370
I want to play PSU again so bad. I miss that game so fucking much. I'm sad Clementine has kind of gone to shit.
>>337653338
There's a lot more wrong with that game, like only 3 weapon types being useful, but yes, those were bad.
>>337653582
Seems like TD3 is built with an expectation that you'll unlock all three AIS, then it becomes a lot easier. TD4 also expects you to have both, but it's also easier to achieve.
Also, bigger scale means that if you MPA is full or retards, 4 people will be spread a lot thinner in TD2 and TD3 than in TD4.
>>337653713
The week a PSU private server is made a reality is the week I disappear from the face of the planet socially
>>337653713
how has clementine gone to shit? I thought it still was basically alpha status
>>337654034
Right? Clementine was so close but is apparently on haitus. Not only that but there's some retard who knows shit about balance in charge of balance, with all these fucking awful ideas in mind.
>>337653649
It didnt affect exp/drop rate, just damage. Ultimately what this means is...you get twin handguns, build a chain of 10 or so for each enemy to do what would be a regular hit in PSU. This mechanic COMPLETELY made bosses garbage. Especially if you were a hunter, where a dragon boss could stomp or swipe its tail, knock you down/back, and you lose your 20+ chain you were saving for a big hit. Remember anga jabroga, the axe ground slam PA? Was great for killing bosses in PSU, useless in psp2+ because of the fucking chain mechanic.
Some bosses like de rol le or the new jumping twin guys just werent made for it at all. And yes people would get asshurt online if you attacked before they got a chain level they wanted. Killed the pacing, as did the universal PP bar. Before it was have fun, go spam heavy, and pop a photon charge if you were out of pp. Now you had to use your plain boring regular attacks more and it just sucked.
PSP2 and infinity missed the point completely of what made PSU fun and slowed the pace down
>>337653713
Theres been a fan patch working on PSP2i since 2014 july. Itll probably be done by summer next year, but it looks very official and well done.
That feel when waiting on email verification forever while my housemate tries to figure out why Blue Burst plays like molasses on his machine.
I just want my dreams back.
What class is best for soloing so i can get used to the game again?
Its been like 10 years
>>337654101
Clementine is currently on hiatus because the main guy, marmalade, is having housing problems with his landlord and shit. He hasnt given up but its currently on pause/limited progress until he can get back on his feet and stable
My problem with clementine is the fucking retarded fans. I like tony and marmalade, the actual admins and programmers. They just wanted to bring PSU back online. But the community beyond that is already turning into a circlejerk. If you dont agree with midori okus "balances" and changes, people get on your ass. Everyone expects war and guntecher to be amazing classes. Wants to nerf forte and master classes because they were "to strong" on official servers.
Fucking morons are going to kill PSU before its even back up and im pissed
>>337654247
HUnewearl is pretty good for that thanks to solid stats all around, high accuracy and MST growth for being your own healbot.
If you can live without Techs, just go HUcast and get insane ATK and HP, then live off Trimates if things go deep south.
>>337654504
Let me guess too, this isn't an open source project either.
>>337654247
huney or ramarl
>>337654215
Oh wow. I was way off then. Clearly it's been awhile. Thanks for the clarification.
>>337654504
What a damn shame - I really hope that it doesn't destroy itself from the inside as this might be the last time anyone tries to do something like this for PSU
I just want to re-experience all my old memories its been almost a decade.
Kind of silly question, but are they planning on including the content that only JP servers had, or are they going only with USA xbox 360 content?
>>337654215
I thought I heard the fan patch was canceled? There hasn't been updates in forever.
>>337654635
I dont know if its open source or not. Dont remember. I think they said if they ever give up, theyll release all their documents and work and maybe someone else can pick up the torch, but idk on that.
>>337654718
Sure thing buddy. Ill never forget the changes that they made to psp2. Bought it day one and was disappointed hardcore in the changes the "fans" praised
>>337654873
Ultimately its up to tony and marmalade what gets changed and what doesnt. Problem is midori oku and his bandwagoners have a large voice and can be convincing. I dont even get why they want PSU back if they want to change it so it flows almost completely different than the original PSU.
It uses the JP pc client. They dont have any data that was server side---so you can kiss all those great events goodbye unless they just remake them themselves by watching videos on youtube and making them custom. I saw someone ask this question a while ago on the forums but i cant remember the name. Pretty sure midori oku answered it though.
>>337655152
http://gbatemp.net/threads/phantasy-star-portable-2-infinity-english-translation.368328/page-56#post-6264460
There was an update last month with a lot of new stuff
Its still going, dont worry
Man, this thread is making me want to sob like a bitch, because PSO and PSU were fucking magical. The games, the atmosphere, the feeling of being tiny in a vast alien world. Falling in love with the world, the story, the characters -- I don't think any game will ever capture me like PSO did. Feels bad, man.
>>337655403
I made a big post to Midori calling them out for their terrible balance changes, but I haven't followed up on it like I wanted to. Unfortunately, I'm in the same boat as Marmalade right now, and am having terrible housing issues. I get to move 4 times in 3 years, two of which within 2 months of each other. It's fucking awesome and totally not stressful at all, especially when I include how one of my all time favourite games might get shitfucked by people who have no idea what they're talking about.
>>337656060
what are the changes they want to do that will wreck things that badly? Never played PSU here.
>>337656060
>>337656143
From what I heard about Midori, it's Force buffs, isn't it?
>>337655905
It was surprisingly enthralling the first time through, just finding all of those recorded messages lying around with their ominous portents. Especially if you were clearing all of the missions as you opened each area in sequence.
The pacing and everything just clicked.
>>337656143
In a nutshell, they want to bring up the hybrid classes to a level that makes them equal to the specialists. The problem with that, is that it kind of negates the useful of the specialists. The point of being a specialist is that you're really fucking good at one thing. By bringing the hybrids up to the same levels as the forte classes, you fuck the balance because now the hybrids can do what the specialists can while still being able to do their secondary function. Why play a Fortegunner when you can play a Guntecher, who can gun just as well as a fortegunner AND heal, buff, debuff and cast spells?
Additionally, they have no fucking idea what the point of the Master classes was.
>>337655905
I miss everything about PSU, Honestly just to name something, the atmosphere of the planets was something really nice. Parum was my favorite even though I spent most of my time in Neudaiz farming white dragon
>>337656060
I think i remember you posting in a similar thread a few months ago actually. Sorry about your housing problems m8, hope you and marmalade can get that shit sorted out.
I hope tony and marmalade very carefully select what gets through and what doesnt. The end game of PSU was great. Everything and everyone was strong as fuck, it was just a matter of some classes have more utility/faster PAs than others. Id rather have it where every class is strong/has their use rather than everyone getting nerfed and making everyone kiss masterforces ass. Midori has always pissed me off with his elitist shit, this goes way back to the official sega days too.
>>337656367
Yep. Sounds like they're being morons. Being specialized is supposed to make you better than hybrids.
Though, PSO suffers from "why would you ever pick humar when huney and hucast exist" syndrome. humar can't even solo better than a hucast that has traps and a way to S/D. It's pretty sad lolI still use humar, though, because i like it
>>337656230
It was. Not to mention the music that just sucks you in. The colour scheme is varied and vibrant, yet at the same time some how melancholy. I've never seen anything do what PSO did. Not even PSU had that same feel. And then there's PSO's legendary music.
PSU had a few really good, atmospheric places. Ukishima felt really alien and cool, and had really fucking awesome music. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTR-7y1GWbk
Grove of Fanatics music was also super fucking cool, but I can't seem to find it...
>>337656885
NEVERMIND FOUND IT LOL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kdh8p4rP8UM
>>337656708
It's the issue of little functionality, and the way they combine functions. PSO games really only have a melee fighter, a shooter and a mage. Make more than one of each, and one is bound to be better than the other kinds.
PSO2 goes around the issue, but only by making each class unique at a narrow specialty. Even then, sometimes functions overlap, and then why'd you choose Hunter when you can be Braver or Bouncer, or Gunner/Ranger when you can be Braver/Gunner?
>>337656393
Each planet had great variety
>parum: grassy fields amidst a mechanized planet, waterfalls, abandoned ruins, remnants of the guardians colony when it crashed into parum (ep3), the train, the HIVE colony with motherbrain etc
>neudaiz: obviously japanese inspired, lots of temples, forests above mountains with lots of water in the area, poisonous jungles, more plain areas
>moatoob: deserts, mines, ice caves, a base for the Illuminus, and the god damn casino that was goat
>guardians colony: guardians headquarters, VR simulations, the HIVE, rykros, was a little bland compared to the other planets but was more dark, still though it was a giant shopping mall outside of missions
>>337656708
Pretty much. Every class in PSU has their niche. The problem is the tards want the more support orientated classes to have equal damage output to the actual heavy hitter classes, such as forte, master, and acrofighter classes. But I mean, a good wartecher, protranser, and acrotecher are nothing to mess with either
Boggles my mind how after hundreds/thousands of hours of playing PSU, they never got accustomed to the balance sega had. Total joke
I still play PSO every once and a while. Never did make it to 200 because I made too many alts. Highest I got was 182 on Gamecube.
>>337657186
>Boggles my mind how after hundreds/thousands of hours of playing PSU, they never got accustomed to the balance sega had. Total joke
Some people have their heads so far up their ass about how they would do it, or whatever retarded headcanon they brought up they simply are unable to see another viewpoint and act like children when someone elses differs.
>>337657168
>Braver/Gunner
Isn't that just a gimmick setup that only really works on bosses?
>>337656407
Things are kind of working out. I've got a new place to live, but it means moving to a new city that's a good 4 hours away. Got a good place to live lined up, lots of friends in the area, but it's stressful thinking about the fact I'll need to find a new job, worrying about making money, etc.Maybe it'll give me time to actually get some work done on my shitty game though! It's also weirdly flattering that you remember that.
I really hope Tony and Marmalade are careful, as well. I want to act as an argumentive voice to them against Midori, if only to play devils advocate and voice a different side to their arguments. There's a lot of shit they overlook. They call for buffs to Wartecher, claiming how they're so weak, but they fail to mention how insanely hilariously tanky the class is. They've something like second highest HP, second highest DFP, high EVP, and second highest MST. Additionally they have a potent heal. They're fucking paladins. Marmalade is especially a really fucking cool person. I've chatted with them numerous times, and they've always been incredibly friendly and just pleasant to be around. Despite being the head guy in charge, they make time to talk to everyone, they smile, they laugh, and somehow, are the only Phantasy Star mods not mad with power.
>>337656708
I usually make a lot of the same arguements for PSO classes. People try and say it's imbalanced as shit but it's really not. It's not great, but it's as bad as people make out. HUnewearls get shit on because they're not useful in a team, but holy shit they are amazing compared to everyone else solo. It's almost like they were designed to be stronger by themselves. RAcaseals are another example -- People say they're useless, but they're the best class in the game for crowd control. Being a CAST, they get a bonus to the effects of paralysis, freeze, and... Something else, I can't remember what. In addition to that, they also have the highest ATA of all CASTs, meaning they are far and away the best class for locking down groups. Even a RAmar with his superior ATA can't lock down groups like a RAcaseal can.
>>337657168
I would argue that PSO2 actually fucks up really fucking hard trying to go around the issue. The Hunter class for example, has passives that are SO FUCKING INCREDIBLY GOOD that EVERY CLASS that deals not-tech damage NEEDS them to be useful. Want to play a ranger? Better level up Hunter first! And THAT is fucking stupid. Granted, I haven't played PSO2 since like ep2, but seriously, fuck that game.
>>337657472
That's Gunner in general. Yeah, Br/Gu is even more narrowly specialized, but is actually good at his niche. Gunner has rifles, and TMGs work somewhat better than bow against normal enemies, but, like, why not just pick Ranger?
>>337657186
Agreed. It seems the lack of understanding the balance behind the classes is pretty prominent for the majority of players in almost every online game in the series, PSO to PSO2. Sure some aren't optimal but they WILL get you through a lot of the content and many bring a different kinda playstyle to the table, which makes each one feel fresh when you roll or change to a different one. It's all about understand the niche I think.
>>337657604
Yeah, I think humar is the only one legitimately without a niche, since huney can solo better with higher ATP/DFP through s/d and a better j/z and maybe one of the female FOs since grants bonus is kinda pointless
Really not sure what could be done to make humar better to the point where people would not say "just pick hucast lol"
>>337657186
>>337656708
You should go on the clementine forums and voice these opinions. The more people that give counter points to Midori's bullshit, the higher the chance they might change their mind, and the higher the chance Marmalade and Tony will be like "Yeah, what the fuck?"
Oh, another thing they're doing -- They're proposing balance changes with GAS in mind -- Something that Tony and Marmalade have said are VERY UNLIKELY we will ever get.
Welp, had my fun tonight. I hope you guys will be playing over the next couple of months. Last thing I need is to finally install a game, and then have it die a month later.
>mfw this happened to me multiple times
>>337657709
Hunter is like the "default" subclass for most things, but fewer classes use it nowadays. It's still the go-to class for all melee fighters thanks to auto health recovery, but at least Ranger is the only other class that has no reason to pick anything else.
Fury Stance is still too good, especially with the critical renaissance we're having.
>>337657853
Oh yeah, lets also not forget the superior animations on females for the most part with swords, twin swords, double sabers, claws, daggers.not that anyone really uses claws or daggers. They do get a shittier saber animation but thats really only a problem for excal
>>337657853
The nice thing about a HUmar Vs. HUcast though -- You're never going to have to babysit a HUmar. They can heal themselves, and they can even J/Z in a pinch until a FO gets theirs off. Their HP is absolutely horrendous, though. The ONLY class I think is truly broken in PSO1 are RAcasts, because they're Rangers with Hunter damage.
Can anyone give me a rundown on what the Ep. 4 story actually is? Also I know is Leo Grahart & WORKS something something
