What's your problem /v/? The game is absolute fun
>>337606029
>What's your problem
devuno
my problem is that I'm a jew and bought it off a third party website but the key still hasnt arrived
Glory Kills are pretty much the single reason I hate this game. That's it.
Oh, and the multiplayer is trash too, but I didn't give a fuck about multiplayer DOOM anyways.
>>337606940
What site? I got mine off gmg for 45 and the key arrived before launch.
Watching a stream it looks ok. Still not Doom really. Story for what reason? Soundtrack sucks, everything is a bit slow and there's fucking lock on and weapon charging.
I'll grab it when it's like half price I think. The animations and level design remind me a lot of the latest Duke.
>yfw DEMON PRESENCE AT DANGEROUS LEVELS
>>337607287
simplygames, 24 pounds
>>337607001
>Glory Kills are pretty much the single reason I hate this game
Then don't use them.
I personally am having a blast with it. Now that I've gotten to hell it's actually getting sort of hard.
>>337607304
This, and the designs are pretty unmemorable besides maybe the revenant, I don't know why they couldn't keep it closer to the classic designs.
>>337607442
You're incentivized to use them so you can get health and the enemies stumble around like idiots even if you don't. That's why it sucks.
>>337607440
Why lie tho
>>337607442
>Then don't use them.
When will this meme end? Have you played the game at all?
>>337607884
What's there to meme about? You don't have to use them.
>>337608042
You don't have to use guns either.
>>337608042
You're incentivized to use them so you can get health and the enemies stumble around like idiots even if you don't. That's why it sucks.
>>337607304
>Story for what reason?
There has to be some incentive maybe? How is that even valid criticism.
>Uhhh because games back then usually never had a story, so this new Doom is totally not like the old Doom
Gaming evolves, deal with it. Not everything and everyone has to be stuck in time.
>>337607875
shit you're right, it was 23 pounds not 24
>>337608193
So you don't have to use them.
>>337607442
>muh opshunul
They're still in there and just as lazy as ever
>>337608284
Yeah, you don't have to. But you're incentivized to use them so you can get health and the enemies stumble around like idiots even if you don't. That's why they suck regardless of if you use them or not.
I like the new Doom better than the original. The combat is just way more visceral and dynamic, the fact that you literally tear apart enemies with your bare hands makes you feel like a god.
Ignore the vocal minority of haters, this game is true to the Doom name. Rip and tear my friends.
>>337608387
I dislike the game too, but your shitty "epic" fake shilling meme can go fuck itself.
>>337608387
The glory kill system just adds so much to the classic shooting experience. Nothing beat the kick of adrenaline you get when you rip a demon in half.
>>337608353
So you don't have to use them.
It's good. Most of the people who cry about not muh doom were still in their dad's sack in 1993.
>>337608387
>haters
Opinion discarded
>>337608540
Stop playing on hurt me plenty you fucking loser.
>>337608540
No, but their existence ruins the pacing and level design of the game. You don't have to use them, though, they just make the game trash even if you don't use them. Seriously, though, you DON'T have to use them, even if the game is trash because of them regardless of if you use them or not.
I just want to stress out: You don't have to use them.
>>337608765
They don't effect the level design at all.
And you don't have to use them.
>>337606029
It looks fun. But the Execute for Health mechanic looks obnoxious.
>>337608882
Again, stop playing on lower difficulty levels.
Why is the music so annoying, it's like they took the original soundtrack and beat it to death with a bass guitar.
It's fun. I bought it, and it's fun. And the multiplayer is fun as fuck too.
And it's making /v/ pissed off that it's successful. I'm gonna get DOOM 2 when it comes out as well. Can't stop success.
>>337607875
£25.69 if you get the 5% discount code from their facebook page
http://www.cdkeys.com/pc/games/doom-pc-cd-key-steam
>>337608982
git gud
>>337609087
>I'm gonna get DOOM 2 when it comes out as well.
fUCk
The weapons and melee are absolute ass along with the movement
>>337609195
Sorry I don't stop and pop like an autist, I like moving around in a fucking Doom game.
>>337609424
thats what i mean, move better and you dont need to rely on glory kills to get health back
Glory kills are just reloading but for your health
>>337607393
>>337609726
Yeah, that's part of why they suck. They were smart enough to know not to put reloading on weapons but then put another form of reloading in anyways. An even bigger annoyance than actual reloading, as a matter of fact.
>>337609817
Except you don't have to use them, just pick up health paks.
>>337609726
>doom
>reloading anything
>>337609849
Don't they make health packs drop more often?
>>337607393
guys my friend neesd to know if his pc with 1280x1024 will run doom or if it can be edited in .ini for that resolution
The melee system is absolutely fucking awful and I'm not just talking about the glory kills, melees have lunge and you end up overshooting the target half the time and it doesn't help that there's a lack of visual and audio feedback when meleeing. It's like hitting air whenever you use it and it's fucking awful. Also whenever you melee an enemy next to a stunned enemy you end up just end up getting the stunned enemey even if you weren't aiming for them, it's terrible
>>337609887
hi
>>337610026
I'm assuming he's not asking himself because he still lives in 1990 and the internet hasn't been invented yet.
>>337610026
you have to install stuxnet.exe to make it run then
>>337607001
>>337607442
>>337607845
>>337607884
>>337608042
>>337608193
>>337608284
>>337608351
>>337608353
>>337608540
>>337608765
>>337608882
This is the most roundabout conversation I've ever seen on /v/. Jesus christ.
>>337610276
You don't have to read it
Crack where?
>>337610321
But I'm incentivized to read it.
>>337610674
But you don't have to. There's no incentive.
>>337606029
Ive been having fun with it, but Im already starting to notice the staleness. Either they add a shitload more guns or put in the obvious fuckin mechanic to pick up weps in game.
>>337610748
Yes there is. They post it, and it's there, so I'm incentivized to read it to keep up with the topic.
What are my options here; I don't want to pay £40 for a 6 hour single campaign and some shitty multiplayer (I played the beta). Is the game pirateable?
>>337611039
>Denuvo
>>337611039
The final multiplayer is almost nothing like the beta.
>>337611072
Can you elaborate?
>>337611039
I think it looks sort of fun but I too dont want to pay that much for short campaign. I know sites like g2a sell it much cheaper but I dont like their methods.
Not a thing, I grew up playing Doom 2 and the Quake series. Game is awesome and so is multiplayer. Maybe you guys just suck balls.
>>337611135
no just buy the fucking game
>>337607304
>Watching a stream
kill yourself
I would have already bought this game if it had mod support
Doom with mods is better and free
About to start streaming it if anyone wants to watch
>>337606029
You are not allowed to like AAA tittles here which are not japanese.
You didn't know this?
>>337606029
You're asking a board that is mostly full of little kids and neets. They don't like it because they can't afford it and just recently a lot found out that it uses the updated V2 instead of the crackable one in the beta. They were all hyped up and getting ready to pirate it haha. Now they are throwing a tantrum and calling the game shit etc. It's fucking glorious
>>337612224
No you're not allowed to like anything on /v/
Everything is shit, blunder of the century and what went wrong?
>mfw last upgrade to the mini missiles for the heavy assault rifle
No weapon should be this good
>>337612095
It was better when it first came out sure.
But I refuse to believe anyone would say that Doom is better than Doom4. If you really think that, just play Doom right now, it aged like absolute shit and video games had tons of quality-of-life improvements since especially in terms of controls and pacing.
>>337612512
Yeah, that thing is great, but the last few levels outright demand that kind of fire power.
>>337612883
No joke. I'm in hell now and just went through an area with like 3 Barons, 2 fatties, a couple Cacodemons and some revenants all at once.
>>337611004
Stop using 4chanx
>>337613046
no. u
>>337612558
I still play doom this very day on zandronum and I can say very firmly that doom is even better then it first came out due to the endless content spawned by being an open source game. Doom 4 will be forgotten in 6 months. While Doom which came out in 1993 is still relevant today.
I want this shilling to end.
Doom 4 is fucking terrible
>>337608387
>liking QTE
not in my watch fag
>>337606029
Because I can't run it... fuck
>>337613314
not an argument
>>337613314
>cuz /veeee/ told me to hate it
>>337613750
>>337613713
But it is terrible though.
Slow as fuck, horrible level design, glory kills
I want you shills to get the fuck off my board. You are just going to be leaving in a week anyway when the game finally fucking dies
>>337613902
It's slow at all. Please play it before you talk.
>>337613197
>It has quantity so it's better
Listen, I used to play Doom a lot, but the gameplay is kinda shit today. The fact that there is no vertical aim removes several layers to aiming, I just can't go back to this, it just feels archaic and doesn't offers anything more than what we have today.
The level design is mediocre at best compared to what we can do today with presentation and pacing.
>>337613314
ignore the fucking threads then you faggot
you're the real cancer clogging up the discussion right now
>>337613936
*not slow at all.
>>337613713
Why are you expecting somebody to make an argument in good faith on 4chan?
>>337613990
>disucssion
Thats funny because the only Doom threads I've seen are
>VEE BTFO
>Give me your opinions
>>337613936
>i-its not slow trust me
Except it is, retard.
>>337608591
Fuck, you're probably right. I'm old. First time I played it was a demo on floppy disc. Had the first few levels. I was 13. We played it over and over.
>>337606029
>What's your problem /v/?
It's AAA title, what the fuck did you expect?
>>337614156
Which of us has played the game?
Yeah, sut up.
>>337607304
Old Dooms had a story they just didn't put it into the missions only summaries at the end of every episode. There's literally no lock on. Sure weapon charging but only for mods which I never use anyway because they're forgettable. I will agree however soundtrack is not that great
>>337614386
/v/ doesn't hate AAA
they just hate shitty games
>>337607001
I actually like them
they are varied and context sensitive on where you aim and from what angle you aim from,
i keep seeing unique ones all the time
>>337613954
>Listen, I used to play Doom a lot
No you didn't your just a shill. Doom also has mouselook so I don't know what you are talking about with this no vertical aim bullshit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RElfXigIe4c
You can do just about anything with the doom engine
>>337614430
>y-you didn't play
Argue me or fuck off
>>337612558
>>337613954
You're wrong. Been playing doom obsessively for the past 3 days. Its great and theres nothing like it today.
>>337613713
Not an argument
>>337614769
What's there to argue? It's not slow. If you are claiming it's slow what are you comparing it to? What speed does it need move at?
>>337614620
I love calling it out before I do them to people in the room.
"watch me sweep this fucks leg " it's pretty satisfying.
Being solely dependent on them can make the game boring though, I like to do them when the situation calls for it.
Whats your favorite doom wad?
>>337606029
My problem is the price.
>>337615004
$35 on cdkeys.com
>>337614840
>its just not slow okay
Compare it to the original Doom, Duke Nukem, all of those games for speed.
Its slow as fuck
>>337615173
I have played all of those, it's just as fast.
>>337615229
>lying out the ass
Its obvious I'm arguing with a marketer now.
Fuck off
>>337615323
Provide proof that it is not as fast.
>>337615229
>I haven't played any of those but I will lie anyway for that sweet shill money
Good work, I have deposited 5 dollars into your bank account.
t.Your Boss
>>337615173
Yeah these games had shitty controls that made you fall into lava/toxic floor, off the roof all the time.
Felt like you're on ice or something.
It was bad and if you're defending the most broken part of the game after hitscan enemies you have bad taste too.
Games have evolved for a reason you know.
>>337614686
Just look at your video, holy shit it's even worse than what I remember, had to close to not get eye cancer. The gameplay is so fucking terrible there is no game feel.
>b-but only a shill would say Doom 1 isn't still the best game ever to this day
You're fucking pathetic, because of retards like you we got Reflex and Toxikkk and other garbage modern-arena FPS to please nostalgiafags who literally live in their own bubble maintained by a strong affect to ONE GAME.
The new Doom is a step in the right direction, and yes, nothing will be like Doom ever, because it was unique and it still is. Does that prevents you from enjoying modern shooters? If so then you deserve to be unhappy about modern gaming. Maybe if there was less retards like you to hold it back, the industry would go faster in the right direction, step by step, slowly but surely.
>>337615352
http://youtubedoubler.com/ilt4
>>337615439
this is b8
>>337615646
>Reflex and Toxik are bad
>but nuDoom is good
Reminder these are the people who buy this shit
>>337616150
Thank you for proving my point that it is just as fast.
>>337606562
Get a job poorfag.
>>337616249
Good job, now you are just shitposting
You are guaranteed to get your 5 bucks
>>337616239
>Reflex
Literally Quake Live but deader, with annoying/unnecessary visual effects, and less content. Basically a lazy cash grab with uninspired design, Warsaw is better and free (and dead too).
>Toxikk
If you already played any UT game in your life you already played a better game in every possible way. Gunplay is putrid shit probably one of the worse ever.
>>337616239
They aren't the people who buy the game, they're just shills.
>>337616239
If you think any of these are better than Doom please kill yourself.
Oh wait how would you know, you haven't even played Doom.
>>337614928
>I love calling it out before I do them to people in the room.
This is the most cringeworthy underage shit I've read today.
>>337616913
>y-you haven't played Doom its outsourced multiplayer a press x to win kills are 20x better than your shitty arena FPS!
>>337616239
the problem with reflex and toxik is that it's like the people who designed these were just nostalgiafags like you who had no idea what made arena fps great so they just did the same thing and expected it to sell in 2015. I'm positive there is some future for an arena fps revival, but not with these retards pandering to the nostalgiafags. The only thing that came close in the recent years was Tribes Ascend.
>>337617219
wow you sure proved him wrong anon
Fun is stupid. No one asked for a fun videogame. "It's fun" is not an excuse to like a videogame.
>>337617219
At this point I just hope for a crack so /v/ (which is mostly piratefags/third world poorfags) can play it and we can actually have discussion about it instead of this shit.
>>337617371
People often say a game is "fun" because they don't have the words to describe what makes it entertaining.
>>337609087
>when doom 2 comes out
Rip in piss
>>337615646
Name a concrete flaw with the gameplay. Go ahead.
>>337618072
literally no fun allowed
>>337615439
There is nothing bad with hitscan enemies, in fact their absence makes gameplay feel very samey as projectiles can be dodged by simple continuous strafing, unless they are fast enough to the point of being indistinguishable from hitscan. Good FPS strike a good balance of enemy typed.
>>337618208
some kinda shit level designs (E2M4 and E2M5 come to mind)
presentation is mediocre at best
multiplayer is shit
>>337606029
0 Problems at all
Gotta love how you can disable every modern hand holding technique right out the gate. Truly a modern masterpiece
>>337616982
You need to lurk more then.
It's fun, try having some fun.
>>337606029
Best FPS campaign since Call of Juarez: Gunslinger.
>>337618980
So the occasional shitty level, which can be fixed with countless fan map packs? The presentation was anything but mediocre for the time, and to this day the monsters and weapons are really well designed.
>>337619248
>which can be fixed with countless fan map packs?
If you're shitting on Doom4 literally a day after release, you should also consider Doom1 in its state at release don't you think?
Why am I even argumenting with retards like that.
>people still parroting the "multiplayer is bad" meme even though the beta only had a fraction of what the real thing has and didn't even let you pick the other Demon powerups
>>337619479
I'm not, I'm just amused at dipshits like you who can barely name anything specific when asked about gameplay flaws, despite going on how many of them Doom apparently has. Doom 4 has issues with its core gameplay, and you're a fool if you think the snapmap will fix Doom 4.
>>337606029
Too slow. It's just another shitty console shooter.
>>337619673
Well I haven't played it asshole. How can I name specifics if I haven't played it? Do you even think before you post? I hate it because it's shit and I don't appreciate fags like you who played it pretending it's good.
>>337619863
Well you apparently can shitpost about it even though you haven't played it. Make up your mind!
>>337619863
Then why the fuck are you even talking about how poorly the game aged? How the fuck would you know that?
>>337606029
>The game is absolute fun
is that all you can say? kill yourself you braindead fuck
>>337619673
>I'm just amused at dipshits like you who can barely name anything specific when asked about gameplay flaws
But I listed 3 major flaws while I've been dared to name one, how is that being "barely able to name a flaw" you fucking retard?
Also it's amusing how you're saying this while at the same time your argument against Doom4 is "it has issues with its core gameplay", could you at least develop a little?
Fine fuck it. Where's the cheapest I can get this. Seeing it for $37 at the lowest.
>>337607393
>build facility used to harvest power from Hell
>build it with a chance that it might be overrun by demons in mind
kek I fucking love this game.
>>337620363
Have you signed your Accidental Death and Dismemberment waiver form?
>>337620232
>major flaws
As in a couple of bad maps which not a single game in existence is safe from, and an absolutely pants on head retarded statement about the "presentation"? The only thing approaching a "flaw" is the multiplayer, but even that isn't bad at all despite being pretty simplistic. Also I'm not really interested in discussing the shitheap that's Doom 4, but the low enemy count, bloated HP bars because of that low enemy count, retarded idea to have AI in charge of enemy spawns and the emphasis on glory kills are core problems that no snap map faggotry will fix.
>>337606029
looked decent
i have no money, though
>>337620363
I love how you were sealed away and demons fought to keep you there. You're the ancient fucking evil. They were scared shitless you would wake up and stomp their asses again, and what do you know that's exactly what happens.
>>337619553
problem with demon powerup was that its way too op and these other powerups are same
>>337620506
>low enemy count, bloated HP bars because of that low enemy count, retarded idea to have AI in charge of enemy spawns and the emphasis on glory kills are core problems
So you haven't get past the first three levels (which is basically the tutorial)?
Here's a wild bet: You probably haven't even played the game
Necause as you go further, the enemy count increases considerably and you're swarmed with enemies, the challenges then revolves more around movement and managing which weapon to use for which kind of enemies.
Alsotrying to using "core" in your arguments and misusing it two times in a row really doesn't contributes to your opinion
>>337620738
>complaining about OP shit in an FPS
/v/, why does this game run like shit for me? I can run other AAA new titles at High, but even on Low settings I still get sub-60fps dips in corridors here.
>>337621260
I haven't finished the game, no. Post proof of your "considerably" argument, because the second level of Doom 1 had more enemies in it alone than Doom 4 had in its first hours. I don't care if it's the final level of the game, post a single video or at least screenshot that shows the player fighting more than 10 enemies at once.
>>337621504
because you don't have a 1080
>>337617371
>>337617913
>>337618072
This is the most confusing and fucking retarded opinion I've ever seen on 4chan. This is tumble tier shit
Games are about having, they're about removing yourself from you're normal life and being immersed in a world or situation that is entertaining. Why else do you play video games?
There's no physical reward at the end, no trophy unless you're an esports champ. The only thing you get out of games is having fun and having a good time. Fuck off back to your man-cave and sulk about why the game is "too fun" to your mum whilst she warms up your hotpockets
>>337620667
Have you found the infocard about the ancient DOOM Marine ?
Thought it was pretty funny
Is... is /v actually saying this game isn't garbage poo?
>>337617371
>>337617913
A primal state of exuberance wherein some stimuli has caused a reaction to produce excessive ammounts of dopimine and serotonin, when introduced to nueral processes creates an exhaltant state of joy and pleasure.
Such stimilu include: [Insert fun things in a game]
Quit being retarded. Fun things are fun. Buy games you think look/would be fun.
>>337621770
The original argument is that fun has no place in discussions of games because it's the end result of certain elements of the games working well. You saying that a game is fun means nothing to anyone but yourself, but you explaining why it's fun to you is useful information.
the question is: how long is it?
>>337621849
>/v
No, it's 25% shitposters who don't care
25% shills
25% /v/-fags who hate nuDoom
10% who legitimately like the game
and 15% who don't care
>>337621504
try update your drivers
also wich FoV i get 70-80 at 110 and 40-50 at 130
>>337621576
https://youtu.be/anrvBD4aTGY?t=1m25s
>tfw I don't have any fucking games to buy but am really contemplating buying this game
>>337622873
I hope that's a wrong link, there's like 3 enemies on screen at any one time. Fucking Quake had more enemies.
>>337622873
this actually looks.. kind of fun..
>>337606029
I'm not 12 years old degenerate.
>>337623495
I thought so too, then I got my refund.
>>337606029
Give duke nukem to bethesda too pls , i need my fix.
They fixed DOOM , they can fix Duke
>>337623495
nuuuuuuhhhh its shiiiiit it has to fail !!! modern gaming is deaaadd!!!! it will never ever be like muh pixelated 2D tedious old school gameplay with locked X axis!!! Why gaming went to shit!!
>>337622873
>people were crying this out as EDITED SPED UP IT'S FAAAKE when it was uploaded
>tfw it's not
>>337616481
Good :) then ill spend it on some more mp skins.
>>337623947
they should disable the glorykills highlight
it really break the immersion and it's ugly
AND useless
>>337622195
Oh ok, phew. I was just worried that there wasn't enough poo flinging
>>337609946
if you have low health, any enemy you kill will drop health pickups (lower health=more pickups)
glory kills increase these drops by a lot, later on you can upgrade them to drop armor too
>>337624463
Mind, you can get an upgrade which speeds glory kills up to a split second. There's also an upgrade which gives you a temporary speed boost when you get a glory kill, combining both of those together makes the game pretty adrenaline-pumping.
>>337622873
>But it's too slow!
>>337624143
try using the settings menu
Is there a torrent yet? i cant find it.
>>337624727
>>337624727
Denuvo
>>337622873
ugh this gives me motion sickness, why are the guns so weak sounding? where's the recoil? they don't look satisfying to use at all.
>>337625204
You're mom didn't look satisfying to use but I did anyway.
I love the floaty halo feeling, I love the jump, I love the weak recoil guns, I love the nu-metal soundtrack, I love the dubstep sound effects, I love the bloom and motion blur, I love the Glory Kills™, I love the lifeless sterile Military Base™ arenas. Man, I love it all.
I'm lovin' it :D
>>337611638
I wonder who could be behind this post...
>>337606029
Because /v/ is full of weeaboo autistic contrarian kiddies who believe that hating popular things is equivocal to exercising critical thought.
>>337614840
>What speed does it need move at?
The speed should be at the pace of the strife pickup. Enemies need to be more aggressive and numerous.
>>337627416
They are much more numerous as the game goes on.
>>337614686
Stop shilling your me-too Brutal Doom clone, this is the 6th time you've tried to do this
>>337610321
>>337610276
Fuck this thread, im outta here