How can ANYONE defend the gameplay of this shit game? You can't make this shit up
>>337576809
Which game, faggot?
>>337577223
looks like one of them witcher games all the kids are ravin about these days
>>337576809
Is this a butthurt Blizzard or BiowarEA fan?
>>337576809
We can't because it hasn't been released yet.
>this is what /v/ has come to
Shitposting used to be a art, now it's just this. I'm sad now.
>>337577758
>>337577568
>>337577671
HOW THE FUCK ARE THERE PEOPLE ON /v/ WHO DEFEND THE WITCHER 3'S GAMEPLAY?
IT'S OBJECTIVELY BAD. I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
The gameplay is far from being "shit".
It's pretty casual, sure but fucking deal with it.
>>337577823
Your bait is objectively bad.
>>337576809
pic unrelated I guess
TW2 had better gameplay 2bh.
Don't know how they managed to go backwards.
>>337577823
Not them, but I consider shit gameplay like f2p MMOs and glitchy as fuck platformers and things like that. TW3 is functional, but not very engaging. The definition of mediocre, not shit.
>>337577823
You have literally never played it.
Stop trying to fit in
>>337577823
You cannot use logic against the SIDF m8.
>>337576809
You're forgeting that people here don't play games for the gameplay.
>>337577823
The same people who defend uncharted "gameplay"
>>337577823
According to TW3fags, conversations are gameplay.
>>337576809
REGIS
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Best boy is back.
>>337578098
>You have literally never played it.
Not that guy, but I have been playing TW3 and the combat is pretty mediocre, floaty and too reliant on the lock-on system.
Not to mention that it's all tied to your level, enemies with higher levels are annoying damage sponges while enemies with lower levels die instantly. There is no actual skill involved.
Witcher combat is horrible and boring.
>>337577568
Say what you want about Blizzard but their games always have decent gameplay.
>>337576809
It's because games are not bout elitists gameplay. It's about becoming a badass wizard or space marine. All you oldfags grew up watching sick action movies in the 80s, but people now have to resort to games to see shit explode and have fun
>>337578043
>witcher 2 gameplay
>literally roll around everywhere
not saying the witcher 3 had good gameplay but it was far better than the second one
>>337578273
It wouldn't be so bad provided 70% of the conversations are boring as shit.
Garalt is a dull protagonist
>>337578393
10 DAYS NIGGA, YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
>>337576809
How can anyone defend ANYTHING BUT the hardwork put into this game by the research and history and artistic rendering departments?
Seriously someone needs to sue the producers for ruining this would be fucking excellent game with shitty literally everything else decisions
>>337578413
Why though? People should watch movies if they want cinematic experience. Games should be games
>>337578413
>It's about becoming a badass wizard or space marine
In a game like Dragon's Dogma it's fun to play as a wizard because the gameplay is great. In Doom you play as a space marine and it's awesome because the shooting mechanics are great.
The Witcher 3 gameplay is just mediocre and you would spend most of your time on long cutscenes and conversations anyway. If I wanted that I would play a Telltale Game.
>>337578413
>oldfags
it mostly newfags and weeaboos that hate on witcher, anyone who played and loved gothic/morrowind/neverwinternights of early 00s, not to mention 90s, loves this game
>>337578676
You are trying too hard to fit in.
>>337576809
Witcher 3 is proof that /v/ doesn't care about gameplay anymore, as long as it has a good story and for them to walk forward while clicking on dialogue is more than enough for them.
That's the only reason why you can see /v/ defending completely shitty games.
>>337578762
no you
>>337578771
>as it has a good story
It doesn't even have that, writing is fucking bland as fuck and the pacing is terrible.
>>337577823
I agree
The game is fucking boring. The combat is either too easy or extremely tedious. The quests involve doing boring mundane shit or collecting fucking herbs so you can kill a creature. The setting is just dull. Literally generic grim medieval that constantly tells you "Hey man, war is bad. Look at this. Ain't it sad?"
The graphics and presentation is fantastic but it is really wasted on a game that is so boring in every way.
>>337578676
I've played all these games from your list, Morrowind is one of my all-time favorites, and I still hate everything about combat in Witcher.
It's floaty, slow, with no advanced mechanics involved and playing action rpg with bad combat feels boring
>>337578930
There are people on /v/ defending Uncharted, Overwatch, Doom and other garbage.
What makes you think /v/ has any taste in games anymore other than being dumb enough to be tricked by marketing?
>>337578930
The witcher franchise features some of the best writing in video games....
You guys are all right about the gameplay though.
>>337578098
I beat the fucking game on Death March and got the Cirri ending you piece of shit. I enjoyed it. It's kind of a fun game. But it isn't this masterpiece every retard and their mother is heralding as game of the millennium.
>>337578676
this is correct
>>337579072
Overwatch was okay, it's basically dumbed down TF2 and that's at least fun to play for a few hours.
And Uncharted is generic as fuck but the combat is at least enjoyable.
I have been playing The Witcher 3 lately and is just boring. Too much inane dialogue, walking around and endless cutscenes. Even when you fight bosses it feels tedious as fuck since they just have lots of health and very predictable patterns.
>>337579186
>The witcher franchise features some of the best writing in video games
All this Witcher bashing lately. Looks like Bioware's getting ready to announce another """""""""""""""""""""RPG""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" soon.
>>337579072
what was the last game you enjoyed ?
>>337579186
>>McDonalds features the the most gourmet fine dinning of all fast food joints
>>337579450
Mass Effect got very dumb with the sequels but at least the gameplay was fun.
>>337579450
It deserves all "bashing" for that thing they call "combat"
>>337579450
>disliking Witcher means you like Bioware games
News flash.
They both suck.
>>337579531
a shit tiers gow clone aint fun
>>337579531
It was only fun as a vanguard. Cover shooting is ass, and shield regen and cooldowns made if even worse than usual. Having to dink off several health bars before abilities even have any effect on enemies, and difficulty just inflating health bars even further didn't help any either.
>>337579450
I have come to the conclusion that there is some deep rooted hate against CDPR. Remember how for like a whole year that one anon literally kept posting the images over and over?
>>337579531
Dear Esther has more fun gameplay.
>>337579645
A decent shooter is way more fun than a shitty and floaty hack and slash.
>>337579773
I liked the first witcher but couldn't stomach 2 or 3. The combat is just no fun, so putting so much more focus on it was a mistake.
OP here. It was a bait. Thanks
>>337579854
>A decent shooter
Sadly none of ME games are that.
>46 posts and 4 image replies omitted
>>337579770
>It was only fun as a vanguard
That was coincidentally the class I choose to play as. And it was fun, that's already streets ahead of what a bunch of pretentious slavs could ever hope to accomplish.
>>337579965
So you have never played them and just mindlessly spout memes?
>>337579854
>decent
it's not even bad taste at this point
>>337579450
>MOM THEY'RE CALLIN OUT MY GAME AGAIN
>MOOOOOOMMMMMM THE SHILLS MOM
Grow up kiddo.
>>337580079
No, shooting is just bullet spongey, cover-based and crap and slow. Go on, give some arguments how shooting is decent in ME games.
>>337580176
>shooting is just bullet spongey
So you just don't know how to aim? Or are you retarded enough to play shooters on consoles?
Also The Witcher 3 enemies become huge bullet sponges if you are just a little bit under-leveled. It's just a shit game that gets a pass because of good graphics.
>>337578273
It's an RPG, commander dingleberry. Everything inside it that lends itself to RP is gameplay.
>>337580392
I don't give a shit about TW3, I'm not some underage who has to hate X because he likes Y.
>So you just don't know how to aim? Or are you retarded enough to play shooters on consoles?
How does any of that have anything to do with shooting being cover-based, slow or bullet spongey? Literally no arguments so you try to change the topic with TW3. Pathetic.
>>337580580
>commander dingleberry
It seems America just woke up.
>>337580704
I am not saying that Mass Effect has great gameplay, there are tons of third person shooters that are way better. But it's decent enough to be fun.
My point is that it's at least fun while TW3 gameplay is not fun, it's just boring and tedious. You should consider learning how to read properly.
>>337580918
No you started digging a hole with whole "learn how to aim XD", has nothing to do with game being fun or not.
>>337581039
People who complain about bullet sponges in shooters are almost always people who are shit at aiming. ME is no exception, if you aim properly at their weak spots enemies die quicker.
So what are similar games with "good" gameplay?
Souls games and...?
everything else is shit?
>>337581174
Hitting them 8 times in the head instead of 9 times in the stomach doesn't make the game not bullet spongey.
>>337581253
>So what are similar games with "good" gameplay?
Dragon's Dogma, Monster Hunter, Mount & Blade, Dark Souls,Legend of Zelda.
Only a fucking pleb who doesn't play many games thinks The Witcher games have good gameplay.
/v/ is not a place for opinions, go away.
>>337581271
That takes a couple of seconds with a rapid-fire weapon. Less if you buff your weapon with abilities.
>>337581485
>Dragon's Dogma
>Literal walking sim where you spam power attacks and fight the same goblins and bandits
>The hyped "climb the monsters" was a bigger joke than Skyrim's mountain climbing
Rest of your list is fine but DD is a literal meme game. Only people who hyped it up were consolecucks with no games.
>>337581485
Dragons Dogma has nothing going on besides gameplay which is still easy as shit.
Never played MH
M&B is good but it's a sandbox game
Dark Souls is just dude roll lmao
Never played Zelda
>>337581813
>>337581813
You have to be literally brain dead if you think that TW3 has better gameplay than DD.
>>337581953
He literally never mentions in that post that TW3 has better gameplay than Dragons Dogma, friend.
>>337581813
Bad game design isn't the same as bad gameplay.
>>337581927
>Dragons Dogma has nothing going on besides gameplay
It has character and pawn customization, great companion AI, far better bosses, great dungeons, tons of play-styles available and more importantly:it's actually fun to play.
>>337581485
I've already counted Dark Souls
Dragon's Dogma has very good bosses, but the gameplay itself (at least melee, wich is the one you can compare to the witcher) is absoulutely not good, it's literally skyrim gameplay + anime power attacks
Mount and Blade: i know a lot of people like it, but i never understood why
Zelda: it's not similar, there are not character skill cheks, also is nowhere better (at least not OOT, MM or Twilight Princess)
never played Monster Hunter
>>337581927
>Never played Zelda
Neo-/v/ has gone too far this time.
>>337582091
Character and pawn customization I can agree with
I really felt like the companion AI was completely braindead sometimes even with full knowledge about mobs
Bosses which boil down to slashing/shooting at one weak point
>great dungeons
What? They were small as shit and unless you count Everfall which is a few rooms repeated over and over or BBI which is also repeated over and over albeit fun, then you're not really right in this.
Tons of play-styles available, yeah.
Fun is subjective. I had fun with both games but TW3 left me with way better feelings than Cut Content Dogma
>>337582121
>Dragon's Dogma
>the gameplay itself is absoulutely not good, it's literally skyrim gameplay + anime power attacks
This is the worst bait I have seen this year.
>>337582207
Never had a single nintendo console in my life unless you count bootleg Pegasus, I suppose it's because I live in yurop and consoles outside of Playstation/Xbox are not popular here at all.
>>337582121
>Dragons Dogma is clearly based on character action style combat
>like skrim with anime power attacks
Did we play the same game? Because they play absolutely nothing alike.
>>337579216
>Cirri
No, you didn't play it. You just google'd some shit.
as a fan of the witcher series, I gotta say the third one isn't really that good even tho I enjoyed the shit out of it.
>combat is clunky and too easy on any difficult setting
>leveling up is dull, the perk don't really have any kind of depth in them and at the start of the game it's kinda obvious which are the best ones
>contracts are just hide and seek missions, same goes to quests but I don't mind cause they're usually very well written.
>main story just felt like an excuse to take you to different places on the map
>movement and controls are clunky too.
there you go, I think almost everything else in the game is brilliant but after playing dark souls 3 and the starting a new game in witcher, I didn't really feel like playing it that much. shit just isn't so rewarding and the gameplay is just pain in the ass. I'm still going to play the expansions.
solid 8/10
>>337582454
>fanboys so butthurt that anyone could play their game and not find it amazing that they delude themselves
What? I got the ending where she becomes a Witcher. Sorry I misspelled her name. If I google'd it, I would've gotten it right, anon.
>>337580136
>voted best game of 2015 on /v/
>yet there is a vocal minority being butthurt in witcher threads all the time
hmmmm
>>337582707
The point is that ALL endings are Ciri endings. She either dies, leaves or becomes a Witcher.
Being the retard that you are, you thought "I got the Cirri ending" was a believable sentence.
>>337578315
>too reliant on the lock-on system.
I'm clairvoyant and you're using a controller.
>>337582918
Honestly it's been so long since I played it that I forgot what the other endings were. It's okay if you don't believe me, anon. Just know that somebody played your favorite game ever and didn't think it was that great.
>>337579450
kids are getting out of finals.
>>337578435
that's witcher 3 that you roll everywhere. not witcher 2. what the fuck are you talking about?
>>337583050
>keeps posting unrelated reaction images
I'll know some lying shitter baited me good.
>postives
-Great music
-Heavily populated citys feel natural.
-Great voice acting
-Gwent even though i personally dont care for it.
>Negatives
-Incredibly dull lackluster combat
-First 4-5 hours are incredibly boring
-Big open world thats completely empty aside from small pockets on enemys.
-no point in exploring world since all you find is junk you can easily craft on your own
-there is a cutscene almost every 10 minutes of gameplay
-a lot of the quests are incredibly repetitive. (Go find x, learn about y from x, track y, return to x)
-characters aside from a handfull (bloody baron comes to mind) are incredibly boring, gerault has as much personality as a box of toothpicks
-character models arent distinguished enough and it doesnt matter where you are in the game or who youre talking to it will feel like youve seen this same model used before at least twice.
-tacked on crafting system and alchamy
System give illusion to a more in depth game then it actually is
-game showers you with worthless items nonstop
Game is literally a 6/10. Cant deny a lot of hard work went into the game but when it all comes down to it. The actual ga,eplay is incredibly dim and almost non existant.
>>337582979
The mouse and keyboard were horrible for some reason, I could have fixed it but decided to go the comfy route and use a controller instead.
>>337576809
I think the gameplay is complete garbage too.
What i gathered from normies who like the witcher is that they really like the story.
And because of "dude you can bang all da chicks EPIC"
Well its game made for more simple minded casual people.
ok cuck
>>337583406
>The mouse and keyboard were horrible
no they were fine, and offered easier access to your signs and inventory than controllers did all while having better camera control during fights.
>>337582121
Please go "man-with-no-taste"
>>337583124
Kids are the ones jacking off to the Witcher.
MUH GRAFFIX
MUH STOREE
MUH GERALT
Just because there aren't a lot of good games coming out lately doesn't make Witcher 3 a good one.
Witcher is a good game, with a fully realized world and setting.
But the combat is atrocious, there is no defending it.
I thought Witcher 1's combat well bad was kinda interesting, and they probably could have expanded on the concept and made something kinda decent.
Instead they scrapped it and tried to do batman combat, but really really poorly.
Pretty much every single thing about 3rd person action combat you could fuck up, they did.
>>337576809
Like The Last of Us, the mediocre gameplay is acceptable because the writing and graphics make up for it.
>>337583549
It controlled horrible when I started the game. Later I found out there was a fix but by that point I was already accustomed to the controller.
>>337583702
Found the kid who has literally never read a good book.
>>337583415
>literally all those games are better than The Witcher 3
Well I guess that having a dorito pope reward makes you feel better of having bought that game instead of something better.
>>337583407
so i guess you are very smart then. So please explain to me what is dark matter and how can we traverse the empty space between galaxy
>>337583702
Graphics and writing can never
NEVER make up for bad gameplay.
>>337583702
>Last of Us
>mediocre gameplay
The shooting and stealth gameplay is the best part of that game by far.
>>337583821
>super mario garbage and undertale being better than anything
come on man
>>337583871
Witcher doesn't have bad gameplay though. It's just solid enough to not be annoying but nothing to cream your pants over either. And most of the complaints still boil down to "haha dude it's bad cause it's easy and controls feel clunky"
Calling it shit means you've never played a game with REALLY shitty gameplay.
> What TW3 shitposts have taught me
> TW3 does everything worse from anyone else no matter how well put it is.
> Having obscure and absurd standards for the game and calling it shit when literally no other game does it better, just because it's TW3.
> Making up the most asinine complaints about the game just for the sake of it when itcs literally okay when Beth/Obsidian/Bioware does it.
> Intentionally shitting on the game's quests when it's quite clear they are the most varied and creative RPGs had in recent years.
> Calling the story shit while at the same time praising BioCrap and Beth dung.
I can't take these shitposts anymore,people literally can't be this retarded
>>337583635
The combat's great, you never played the game right?
>>337584045
>Witcher doesn't have bad gameplay
Your standards must be extremely low.
>>337583606
I'm willing to bet.you didn't do too well on your english exam.
>>337583381
What is a 9/10 game for you? Post some, I'm sure I can make the same kind of list that you did.
>>337583871
TW3 gameplay isn't bad, it's average and boring and meant to be sped through to get back to the story.
There's a good reason why TW3 playercount dropped like a rock after everyone finished all the quests, the open world is pointless when the combat is unsatisfying.
>>337584104
Prove to me that it's actually bad. I never had any problems with it, it was just fine.
inb4 webm autist
>>337578087
Mediocre is it
>>337577823
Bad gameplay is those weeb faggot games you play.
Only casual faggots would complain about the gameplay in Witcher 3.
Git Gud.
The witcher 3 isn't bad, I really enjoyed it. The combat isn't that good tho I thought. It seems they went for a more dark souls style of combat. At least I remember seeing a dev say something like that before the game came out. I feel like they kind of missed their mark on that too. The fact that the world has leveled enemies also shows that they missed having true dark souls combat. I think it would have been infinitely better if there was no leveled enemies and you could beat any monster based on your knowledge of sword combat, signs, and alchemy potions you have learned. Still a good game in my eyes, I just know they could have made the gameplay better.
>>337584159
>There's a good reason why TW3 playercount dropped like a rock after everyone finished all the quests
Yeah, they finished the game probably fully and won't come back to it since there's no reason to do so.
And then they come back for a replay when expansions roll in, which are great too.
>>337577823
>>337576809
>it's that exact post again
Are you guys at bioware just salty that CD Projekt's games are superior to yours in every possible way?
>>337584220
/thread
>>337584176
It doesn't take any skill, some enemies are damage sponges (especially if they have higher levels than you) movement and sword swinging is very floaty, enemies are literally brain-dead, horse riding sucks.
If you think it's good then you haven't played many good games.
>>337584084
>>337584084
I got pretty far but never beat it.
Though the combat wasn't actually the reason I stopped playing it, well terrible, I can over look bad gameplay if I enjoy other aspects of the game.
>>337578393
>always have decent gameplay
Diablo 3 sucked, Starcraft 2 sucked, Hearthstone is a scam, HOTS sucks, WoW hasn't been good for 5+ years
alright bud
>>337576809
People still play Souls so as long as there's something else interesting being done in a game it doesn't matter if the combat is lame.
>>337576809
More better than your Shit Souls.
>>337578771
/v/ defends Dark Souls and the gameplay of that series suffers from the same combat flaws.
>blocking
>dodge rolling
>glitched hit boxes
Exact same flaws only /v/ loves it because its Japanese. Literally can't make this shit up family.
>>337584312
>then they come back for a replay
>Going through the shallow combat again to swap a few dialogue options
Nobody does this, it's why even the DLC include the choice to skip immediately to the new content.
>>337583914
>The gameplay part of the gameplay is the best part of the game.
(You)
>>337584379
First of, I said it was just fine.
Was it too easy? In some parts, yes. It takes a bit of skill, yeah, but the game itself is not combat-oriented as much as you'd want it seems. Damage sponges are indeed there and I dislike them. I found movement and sword swinging good at almost all times, inside interiors the movement can be annoying though. Can't defend AI much. Horse riding is just basically there, not much to say about it, especially since you can just press a button and follow the road.
Still didn't prove that it was bad.
>>337584495
DIablo 3's combat was very polished and had very good controls and feedback loop.
So the gameplay was good, just everything else around it was bad.
Never played Starcraft or Hots.
They might be terrible I don't know.
>>337584495
>Starcraft 2 sucked
Starcraft had atrocious writing but the gameplay was fairly good, although the deathball meta killed the multiplayer.
>HOTS sucks
HotS was generic as fuck but the gameplay was good. It just had horrible balance and some maps were terrible.
>WoW hasn't been good for 5+ years
I played WoW for the first time this year and I though it was a relaxing and comfy game, and some locations were really nice.
Haven't played Diablo.
>>337584379
Name a better open world RPG.
I bet whatever you like will be a total meme like Morrowind, weeb shit, or Mount and Blade.
>>337584654
>/v/ defends Dark Souls and the gameplay of that series suffers from the same combat flaws.
You know someone is desperate when he resorts to outright lying in order to defend his shit game.
>>337581485
>it's a /v/-tard thinks combat=gameplay episode
Dragon's Dogma is the most overrated game on /v/ by a wide margin.
Though it's honestly heartbreaking how much potential this game had and how disappointing it actually was. It aims to be TES, Monster Hunter and Dark Souls and fails M I S E R A B L Y in every way possible. Mind you, I fell in love with the game at first too, but it was a a rude awakening in the end.
>>337584654
>comparing dark souls and witcher combat
>>337584745
>since you can just press a button and follow the road.
That's the worst part, the horse has such a bad AI and can get stuck so much that they added a mechanic to make riding fully automatic.
>>337584997
>roll and stab someone in the back with your light attack
It's basically the same
>>337584842
>gameplay was good
>no multiplayer because of design flaws
>gameplay was good
>no balance (again design flaws/shit gameplay)
>WoW is good
fucking kek.
lol Blizzdrones everyone.
>>337584934
>Name a better open world RPG.
Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen.
The gameplay sucks because it is a console game #fact
>>337585026
I saw some videos of people getting Roach to act weird but I never experienced that myself, never really got stuck either. Am I just playing it wrong or what
>>337584942
What's he lying about exactly? Souls series are praised to high heaven but the combat is gutter trash. Just because it takes time to learn an enemy pattern and roll around them doesn't mean it's fucking good.
>>337584942
>lying, couldn't refute the points listed
yeah, someone here is lying by omission.
I-I-Its different when dark souls does it!
I block with a shield instead!
The rolling is effected by weight, that makes it different!
>>337579058
Surely, Witcher 3 is bearable for you if you can commit to Morrowind's combat
>>337585119
That game has basically non-existent story, no interesting characters, no good side quests. It only has good combat (which is easy as shit) and nothing else
>>337584965
I think the game is very flawed but the combat gameplay by itself was really good.
That's one of my current major problems with The Witcher 3, it constantly reminds me of how much more fun Dragon Dogma was. And I didn't liked DD that much, is just that TW3 is just boring.
>>337585119
total meme and was shit
next?
>>337584654
Those are not the issues with Witchers combat.
Witcher is bad because of floaty character feel, never fully in control of your character because you never know what attack animation will come out when you push a button, incredibly poor balance.
Everything about Witchers combat is a janky mess, designed by someone who has never played a video game before.
>>337581485
>Mount & Blade
>good gameplay
>run backwards and swing weapon ad infinitum
dude.... whoa........
I'll take Witcher 1 combat over that fucking Bethesda-tier mess.
>Dark Souls
>>337583821
that's the total number of GOTY awards each game has received, the dorito award is only 1
>>337585070
I hate Blizzard, I just acknowledge they can makefungames.
How do you people have the energy to argue about this shit for the 12th thousand time?
>>337585154
>Souls series
>combat is gutter trash
Name an open world ARPG with better combat.
>>337584997
>roll
>roll
>attack
>roll
>dodge
>dodge
>attack
>dodge
You must be seriously underage and retarded to not see this.
>>337585262
>That game has basically non-existent story, no interesting characters, no good side quests
That's all wrong. The side quests in particular can get pretty weird and interesting.
>>337584140
The warriors is literally a 10/10 game
Zombies ate my neighbors is literally a 10/10 game
Shinobi (ps2) is literally a 10/10 game
The last of us (multiplayer mode only) is literally perfectbloodborne is a 9/10
>>337585584
Examples?
>>337585304
>when you press block, he blocks
>when you press fast attack, he fast attacks
>when you press heavy attack, he heavy attacks
wow, so complicated. Truly tough to master because the programmed in more than 1 attack animation for each.
Sounds like you're just terrible at games. Witcher 3 is easy, its basically a game of knowing when to block vs dodge or when to light vs heavy.
Once you figure that out there is no "problem" with animations or balance.
Have you ever played a game before?
>>337577823
While The Witcher 3 is a good game, it does suffer serious combat mechanic issues. It manages to have a worse skill tree than The Witcher 2, the entire skill-set system is garbage and is awful. It's clearly designed for you to switch out mutations on the fly for when you are fighting different kinds of monsters, but there is no in-game macro slots that lets you change mutation lists- instead you need to drag and drop your skills into the proper panels every time, so I end up never changing my skills the entire game and see very little difference.
Blocking/riposte rarely works. The weapon pool is utterly littered with trash weaponry you will never use, same with the armor pool.
>>337585325
>run backwards and swing weapon ad infinitum
I bet you were completely raped in multiplayer and quit the game in shame.
>>337577823
because its not objectively bad
It's passable, but not great.
Completely luke warm.
>>337585518
Kingdom Hearts
>>337585503
Explain how it isn't? I dropped DeS after maybe 10 hours because I got bored. I'm now 25 hours into DaS and I'm considering quitting because it's gotten so fucking boring doing the same exact thing against all enemies, it's only some bosses like Oreo and Smores who make the game interesting. With games like Witcher 3 you can at least vary your shit with signs. Go take your fanboy shit back to your subreddit.
>>337585620Just play the damn game.
>>337577823
It's kind of funny that you would use an image of Madotsuki while making that kind of point, considering Yume Nikki is basically a walking simulator.
>>337585648
>blocking/riposte rarely works
i didn't know works every time was rarely.
>enjoy the game more than the majority because huge fan of the series (books)
feels great to truly enjoy a modern video game. first playthrough including HOS is at over 150 hours. just slowly going from one place to another in the fully realized world is enough
>>337585648
I just spam Igni and Yrden + alt Yrden on the highest difficulty famalam, everything explodesexcept gargoyles that are literally artificial difficulty
>>337585758
I finished it, actually. Went through BBI several times for gear, too.
Give me examples, please. If you can't provide any then at least don't argue if you can't do a proper argument.
>>337585679
So you agree that is viable in the game, singleplayer, ergo the system is built to allow that. Thanks for proving my point.
>>337585405
>I hate blizzard
>I just defend them on the internet for no reason
>I lie about the quality of their games in hypocritical fashion
yes, their horrible design flaws sure are fun!
The true definition of "good gameplay" you nailed it, Blizzdrone.
>>337585708
>Kingdom Hearts actually has better combat with The Witcher 3
I don't even know what to say...I agree.
>>337585728
>I dropped DeS after maybe 10 hours because I got bored
You mean you got stuck with one of the early bosses.
Yes, there are 5-6 similar game brands with better gameplay (and worse... everything else), i don't see the problem
>>337585503
>implying it's different from Witcher gameplay that everyone loves to shit on
>>337585632
The balance problem is that it's far too easy, there is no difficulty even on the highest setting.
Not quite Kingdoms Amaular bad, but still terrible.
The animation thing is not a problem that will get you killed, because nothing can get you killed because the game is piss easy, the problem is that it's poorly designed and you never feel in control of your character, everything about the gameplay feels loose compared to something like Bloodborne or even Dragons Dogma.
>>337581485
Only M&B on that list has better gameplay.
>>337585862
>I finished it, actually.
You can finish it without doing any sidequests, which is a shame.
>>337586068
So you won't provide a single example then?
>can't even defend a game
pathetic
>>337585969
There isn't a problem.
The retards on here just can't accept that a Western game is better than their Japanese garbage
>>337578435
witcher 3 is sidestep everywhere, boi.
>>337586116
I think you are better off actually playing the game yourself and discovering those quests.
>>337585969
But gameplay is the most important part of a video game.
Story and setting being good doesn't matter if I have to slog through bad gameplay to get to the good parts.
And there is far more combat then there is story.
>>337585963
You mean like that lame fucking dragon where you have to shoot 2 harpoons or something and it's over? I can't remember what boss exactly because they were all ridiculous, the fire demon thing was the only actually challenging one. Maybe it was the blob one.
DeS is fucking boring unless you have a hard on for the Souls series. DaS is miles ahead of it, and even it has started to get boring because of the lame combat system.
>>337586290
Like which ones?
inb4 le play le game XD
>>337586313
Have you every played the Gothic series, friend?
>>337586313
I really wonder what contrarians like you play regularly or just recently have played and thought was great. Can you give some games?
>>337586343
>I can't remember what boss exactly because they were all ridiculous, the fire demon thing was the only actually challenging one.
So you got stuck with the Flamelurker, are you really that bad at games?
>>337586510
No I said that was the only challenging one I played against you fucking drone. He was way early in the game.
>>337583842
Knowledge doesnt equal IQ or smartness.
That you completely connect both of them mentally shows how much of a simpleton you are.
>>337577823
your taste is objectively bad
>>337586425
Yes, I really liked Gothic 2, but that was 10+ years ago, I only have nostalgia for it, and I'm not sure it would hold up.
>>337586437
Over this past year? Not much.
Dark Souls 3
Street Fighter V
Stardew Valley
Final Fantasy 9
Hearthstone
Liked all of them fine I guess, though Hearthstone is kinda fucked for a lot of reason.
>>337586969
Thanks for the list and the hearty kek.
>>337578435
>>337583138
>roll around everywhere
so basically dark souls?
>>337577823
>>337587084
delete this right now
>>337582074
dragons dogma has both though
>>337585608
but can you list some good games though? all those you mentioned are meme tier at best
>>337577823
It's fun. I used magic and I didn't just spam click all the time.
Oh no you didn't
>>337576809
sage
>>337577823
Tell that to this faggot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvDU5T15Oh0
>>337587084
OH SHIET
>>337586313
i don't know, for me giving me a good reason to fight is actually more important than the fight itself
>>337576809
Fag
plebs, plebs everywhere.
Isn't this that Reddit shitposter who hates TW3?
>>337584159
>people stop playing the game when they beat it
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
they aren't doing NG+7 like all my cool autist friends do with le Dark Soulz!
>>337588196
He's the one who kept spamming the WebMs, he might have changed tactics I guess. Doesn't change the fact that there's this many edgy contrarians. Is it because it became so popular and successful? I really don't get it. I can't wait to see what they'll come up with for 2077, I'm sure it'll turn out pretty decent at the bare minimum.
>>337577823
I've read VN's that are more interactive than TW3
it's shite neckbeard faggetry
![Y0QjCPy[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/fagxdb5.png "Y0QjCPy[1].png")
>>337585503
Witcher 3's problem is lame boss fights
Hearts of Stone has better boss fights than anything I've seen in Dark Souls 1. The combat compliments the fights very well and has increased my enjoyment of the combat system 10 fold. I can conclusively say that Witcher 3 has a better combat system than Dark Souls 1. I even NG +1'd Dark Souls 1 but didn't find any of the bosses as hard as Iris' Nightmare from Witcher 3. End urself Jap.
Witcher 3 combat is almost an opposite of souls combat,this is why so many people who have transitioned from one to another don't like it.
Dark Souls combat is plain and simple,when you press attack,your character thrusts/swings/punches, you have stuff like strong attacks,jump attacks and two handing.Every weapon has it's own moveset,every enemy has his own moveset,hitboxes work most of the time.
In witcher when you press attack,your character jumps around to the random enemy and tries to either swing or stab him. Some of the hitboxes are also pretty bad, mostly big guys with big weapons. Witcher combat looks really good and when it works it also feels really good. Sadly the animations make this a rare feeling.
But then again, gameplay is also Gwent so it's 10/10 just for this alone
>all that (unfortunately unfunny) shitposting
Don't you have some REAL GAMES to play? Why even bother with something you think it's fucking terrible?
>>337588607
I'm not a contrarian. I really liked witcher 3 but the combat is mediocre, don't lie to yourself.At least it's better than skyrims combat.
Skyrim combat <witcher 3 combat <dragons dogma combat <soulsborne combat
>>337584965
The gameplay and the companions were great and the story was ok. The main problem that stuck out to me is that the only fully fleshed out areas that are worth going to are a tacked on post game dungeon and a dlc dungeon.
There are two real areas in the whole game.
>>337576809
It's the best rpg gameplay wise and everything else is on point too. Of course it's not souls good but it's the best you can get in any aaa casual friendly rpg.
>>337589125
dark souls has so many bosses they design them around specific player weakness. Not to mention the work they put in to make the player character a bitch compared to the bosses while witcher make geralt comparable to them.
witcher's encounter design is shit as well. most fight is fought in a pseudo arena with 1 fucking kind of mobs type. Humans opponents do come in party but they take turn attacking making it boring fast and bandits have the same behavior as soldiers while ds has some guy chucking grenade on top and two bumrushing you on the ground, in other area a mage chucking spell on top while two dogs bumrushing you... that kind of stuff.
so in the end witcher provide more option for the players while dark souls provide more variety for challenges. the latter is always more exciting for players and make better games.
>>337587261
>meme tier
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>>337591007
Dark Souls is combat based, it's the only thing it does remotely well. I don't think it exceeds at it. It's average. Witcher 3's combat system is made with the intention of its player having thousands of encounters throughout a 100+ hour playthrough. You can't circle-strafe a mob in Witcher 3 and wait for their generic attack animation cooldown and left click on them like you do in Dark Souls. Combat in Witcher 3 is supposed to be succinct and plentiful. Whereas combat in Dark Souls is supposed to be the 'meat' of the game.
>enemies have a stamina system
>still block every attack even with no stamina
>>337591289
>it's the only thing it does remotely well.
>>337591007
>have level 10 gerault
>accidentally launch mission with a reccomended lv 27
>have to fight dwarfs that are super op
>thers a bunch of them
>oh shit im fucked
>they just stand there blocking none are even remotely going after me
>chip away at their health with my broken sword since the only time they even attempt to hit is after i throw a swing amd even then they dont combo or anything
>beat mission
>realize how boring this game is again and turn it off.
I could never play for more than an hour with getting insanely bored
>>337591289
>Combat in Witcher 3 is supposed to be succinct and plentiful
doesnt it mean combat is still the "meat" of w3? because you will spend most of your time killing some drowners no matter how you go around it. and it is mmo tier repetitiveness while souls spice shit up here and there and change them quite a lot when you reach a new area,
You still fight the tutorial ghouls a lot, just with different texture and stat at the end game of w3. while you fight the mini boss equivalent in souls at the end game.
>>337589803
See I don't get that. For example, I find Asscreed combat to be in general more "fun" than Souls combat. I just finished Black Flag yesterday and even though it's piss-easy to fight against everyone I still had so much fun with it I had several 6+ hour sessions. Obviously that game also has stealth shit and of course the based naval combat, but the melee combat itself is still enjoyable despite not being difficult at all. The way it's fun is simply keeping the combo going like in Arkham or Mad Max, and using your guns and killing people by kicking them into walls and railing. With Souls, I usually burn out before the 6 hour mark in a long session, despite it being more difficult. And then at its best it's really fun like with O&S, but that I feel has more to do with them being a great boss fight and not so much the player combat mechanics. And not to mention how extremely tedious Souls can be. With Witcher 3, I see it as a middle way between those two, it's easier than Souls but it's still difficult enough so that it isn't a total cakewalk like Asscreed, meaning in the end I find it to be more enjoyable than either of the other two.
>>337592309
shadow of mordor is the greatest bamham shit if you are into it.
My main complaint is Geralts face clipping through collars when he turns his head in cutscenes
it happened both when you find ciri and vesemirs funeral and really takes you out of the moment
>>337592485
>it's far more Risen than Skyrim
>this is somehow a bad thing
>>337592569
I like Arkham(played Asylum and City) and obviously plenty of Asscreed, where I think it's pretty fun in general as well, but with Mad Max it mostly feels like a total chore. I wish there was more simply driving around and not so much fucking get out and climbing around and shit. I don't even want to go to the air balloons because it takes ages to simply fly up and down again. I've seen some footage of Shadow of Mordor and I don't really like the look of the game, the setting and so on. Combat alone doesn't lure me into it enough, I don't have a hard on for bamham combat in itself but if it's done well it's fun(Batman, Asscreed) if it isn't it's a chore(MM).
>>337577823
I have only played on the highest difficulty, Death March I think, but I really enjoyed it. I thought it was about perfect, a good mix of tools, reactions and creativity.
>>337593193
It was too easy
>>337579773
Well they are fucking white males who create worlds without systemically oppressed people of color.
Hopefully cyberpunk2077 will feature some disenfranchised minorities so /v/umblr can enjoy it more.
>>337587084
>>337577823
It isn't, but ok
>>337578292
Oh fuck WHAT?
That my man Regis?! Shit, I here went "neat, a Vampire Alchemist" without making the link. He did survive the books, unlike my boy Cahir.
I might have a problem, guys.
>>337583050
people you have fooled so far: literally 0
>>337577568
No. Sonyggers
Still mad about "muh Bowelborne did not get GOTY"
