Is it just me or does the enemy encounters feel like an afterthought? It's like the devs went "oh shit we forgot to actually make a game" after they spent years creating the amazing looking environments. Every enemy encounter doesn't feel as polished as the rest of the game. Anyone else feel this way?
>>337520889
I don't exactly know what you're talking about but I must say I hate the gunplay in this game. I guess it's unfair to compare it to the cream of the crop of TPS games but Uncharted's shooting mechanics suck enormous gorilla dick compared to Max Payne 3 and GTAV.
UNCHARTED
WAS
NEVER
GOOD
>>337521214
2 was good you mong
>>337521098
GTAV shooting sucks dick compared to max payne 3
>>337521098
>GTA V shooting
>better than UC4's
>>337521384
It's still miles above Uncharted. When you shoot people in GTAV you can see their bodies subtly react to the bullet impact and what not. There's actual physics going on. UC4 just feels rigid and shitty.
>>337521518
Way better.
>>337520889
I agree, I believe there were no new enemy types in U4, There were no cursed beings, overpowered humans that ate a super power resin. Not even a shit ton of spiders or crazy demon hallucinations. only generic Paramilitaries and African badass gril that has plot armor
>>337520889
combat has never been good
>Play the beta
>Enjoy it
>Play the final multiplayer
>Everything is nerfed to hell.
>Nothing but AK-47s for days.
![images[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/24iy0wm.jpg "images[1].jpg")
>>337521823
>knight with minigun that you cant melee
>>337522121
>Not just two grenades and headshotting
At least them and gasmask guys don't show up to often. Bane of my crushing run.
So when will Naughty Dog go back to making cart racer spin offs of all their games?
I want Uncarted and The Fast of Us.
>amazing looking environmemts
>>337523014
>>337520889
I hate the combat but everything is good
>>337521593
>It's still miles above Uncharted. When you shoot people in GTAV you can see their bodies subtly react to the bullet impact and what not. There's actual physics going on. UC4 just feels rigid and shitty.
This is the result of the T rating ND was aiming for, they had to cutdown on violence
>>337523947
>>337524086
to blurry
>>337522868
They've matured past that, sadly.
>>337520889
>Is it just me or does the enemy encounters feel like an afterthought?
"A walking simulator in action game clothing"
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-05-11-combat-fatigues-how-uncharted-is-a-walking-simulator-in-action-games-clothing
>>337523947
>not in 4k because ps4 cant handle that
>game from last year looks better
>"next gen"
>Uncharted 4:setpiece galore
>20$ dlc has more content
lol
>>337523947
>not a gameplay argument
>>337520889
I don't play games that run sub 30 fps
>>337527327
>'the more you starve your slaves, the more easily you can feed them shit.'
-Colonel Sanders
>>337520889
the gunplay in this game is really mediocre and hasnt evolved at all beyond uncharted 1, well, most of the gameplay in general hasn't aside from the addition of the grappling hook. it plays really fucking boring and i just can't be pacified enough by the big bombastic setpieces to ignore the fact that at its core its a really mediocre game with a very glossy embellished shell
>>337527405
>Ungameplay 4
>a "game"
>>337527518
>>337527684
that picture is actually false, you gotta put bloodborne holding the gun
>>337527405
as with PC, sonyggers can just upgrade their guangdong hardware (after only 2 years, not 3) and get silky smooth 15~45fps on the first handful of sackboy shitware that are available thereafter
2 years later, they can upgrade again and enjoy the same svelt animation frame rates all over again!
>haters
>gonna
>'bate
>>337520889
Even in 2 enemy encounters felt secondary to everything else in the game.
>>337527826
Better?
>>337523947
>mfw someone unironically said this is one of the best boss fights of 2016
>>337520889
Sounds awesome. The gunplay is by far the shittiest part of every Uncharted.
>>337527257
Walking Simulator is a stupid criticism and always has been.
>>337528381
yes much better
I beat Uncharted 4 today on hard mode (you can't do crushing on your first playthrough)
I liked the actual combat segments but here are my thoughts:
too many cutscenes
too many qtes
graphics are nice
shooting mechanics / combat are better than Uncharted 2/3
I'd give it like an 8/10 probably, I don't regret buying it but not GOTY (unless the rest of the year blows)
>>337528738
>Can't do crushing on your first play through
You can though
>>337528738
Well Overwatch, battlefield 1, and Mafia 3 [and maybe Dishonored 2]
Mafia 3 is my guess for GOTY
my big disappointment was how this game was really just a straight shooting find a pirate treasure story
all the other uncharteds have some wacky supernatural shit start to happen
I got really excited when they laughed about the idea of ghost pirates, fully expecting ghost pirates or some shit to happen.
and then it never did. All we had were a mercenary that literally did nothing wrong, and a villain who had every right to be mad about getting fucked over again and again by your shit brother
>>337521257
Not it wasn't.
None of the Uncharted's have satisfying gameplay.
You're either:
climbing in highly controlled environments
Shooting with inaccurate, unsatisfying guns at bullet sponges
Watching a cutscene
solving braindead puzzles
playing a "walking section" that's really a cutscene
All of that is complete garbage. Yeah, some of the "le epic set pieces" are neat, but that doesn't make the gunplay any less unsatisfying and barebones.
They're cheap popcorn entertainment for the lowest common denominator. They're Hollywood "bayformer" games, but critics are PETRIFIED about not giving these games high scores because the legion of sonyfaggots who would flip out.
Note how whenever a "critic" talks about these "games" they almost NEVER talk about the fucking gameplay. They use words like "emotional" and "powerful" they talk about the story and the characters. They talk about the graphics and the setpieces. The one thing they never talk about is the only thing that fucking matters in a video game, the fucking gameplay.
>>337528874
>You can though
pretty sure the option was greyed out
don't care anyway, chapter 20 and 21 were already a bit tedious on hard, I don't think I'd want to do survivor or whatever
>>337528931
Yeah mafia III has potential as long as it doesn't have a fucking speed limit when driving.
>>337528931
the black protagonist has me a bit confused given the term mafia but I'm definitely looking forward to the game.
Also looking forward to the new Deus Ex, if it does everything HR did but better, that'll be my GOTY. Haven't received my copy of DOOM yet because I didn't pre-order but it might be good
>>337529043
They slowly got rid of that supernatural stuff throughout the series and I'm glad they did. I don't want to be spooked every single time I play a game. Sometimes I just want to enjoy myself.
>>337529316
4 was still kinda spooky
>>337529296
Well the main writer said that "Mafia does not mean just the Italian mafia" "it also means the black mafia and the Scottish gangs" or something like that.
>>337529043
>my big disappointment was how this game was really just a straight shooting find a pirate treasure story
Something are better when kept simple. When you really get immersed in the story, not just through spoken dialouge but through the journals and other tid bits of information it makes for a pretty satisfying story in my opinion. I liked it, especially when the locations you'd find really do tell a story of their own, those instances of the game were really captivating, and I really could imagine what the pirates who came before me felt and the extrodinary lives they lead.
The story is pretty awesome in my opinion and it can be dark at times which is even better.
Name five TPS with better gunplay than Uncharted, you can't PCucks.
>>337529553
stupid but whatever, I'll still give the game a chance
>>337530006
Don't set them off...
>>337530006
I like Uncharted as much as the next guy but Max Payne 3 has better gun play. Hell I might even throw in TLOU as well, I liked it better
>>337529062
The only challenge in the gunplay is playing on the harder difficulties, because you go down in 2 hits.
You have to stealth kill or headshot normals, then use heavy weps on the armored guys. At least this time you can stealth the armored ones.
I like the challenge of headshots and weapon selection for the armored dudes. But that's about it for gameplay in any realistic sense. The rest of it is timing.
>>337530117
max payne 3 is an obvious answer but I disagree with TLOU
>>337530781
Each to his own I suppose
>>337528538
i fucking hated this fight, the switch between left and right was seemingly random at times, and other times you couldn't even tell if you were supposed block left or right because he would swing in awkward directions. it was basically just trial and error until you learned the pattern, which sucks. at least UC2 had a fight that actually involved gunplay and kiting
>>337521593
>shooting is better
Not with the movement you stupid retard, the cover system/movement are leagues worse than Uncharted 4.
The overall gun-gun combat in Uncharetd 4 is some of the most fluid combat i've experienced
>>337530996
I'm not saying I don't think TLOU is a better game, it kind of is because I prefer to not have regenerating health
I just think in terms of pure shooting, Uncharted 4 is better by a little bit
There definitely seems to be way more climbing than fighting in this one, also no supernatural enemies kind of sucked too.
Uncharted 4
>cutscene
>Set piece
>cutscene
>Hand 2 hand combat
>cutscene
>stealth segment (that can be handled in a lethal manner)
>cutscene
>gunplay
>cutscene
>puzzle solving
>cutscene
>platforming
>rinse and repeat
>Pure gameplay orientated Multiplayer that is legit fun as fuck
Status from PCucks - Hated
Bloodborne
>5~ cutscenes in the whole game
>everything else is pure gameplay
Status from Pcucks - Hated
Witcher 3
>Cutscene
>Cutscene
>Cutscene
>forced combat (only form of gameplay in this """""""""""""game"""""""""""")
>Cutscene
>Cutscene
>Cutscene
Status from PCucks - Best game ever made
Differing variable between Witcher 3 and Uncharted4/Bloodborne = Uncharted 4/Bloodborne are not on PC, Witcher 3 is.
Gee, I wonder what is going on here
>>337531314
I understood with what you meant, I just felt TLOU had better shooting controls, in U4 it was a little too sensitive for me
>>337531509
i can understand not liking Uncharted but DS3 threads prove BB hate is pure Pkek jealousy
>>337531643
handguns fire so fast in Uncharted 4 which I liked a lot, almost max payne speed
>>337529514
Literally just ripped off Tomb Raider
>>337520889
Uncharted combat was never that good.
Its good points were the pretty graphics and setpieces
I've>>337521098
I fucking agree
Also the covering system is fucking trash
>>337531509
>puzzle solving
>platforming
>not scripted
lel nice pasta
>>337529514
>>337529514
That level was bullshit
I how am I suppose to dodge the exploding mummies?
I didnt die but my immersion was breaking apart from contstant bullshit
>>337531509
Truth
>>337520889
It's just you. Everytime I get into a gunfight it's an absolute joy to pkay
>>337532682
I died multiple times to those fucking mummies they're bullshit
>>337531136
>the switch between left and right was seemingly random at times, and other times you couldn't even tell if you were supposed block left or right because he would swing in awkward directions
that was sort of the point, he would try to fake you out. You had to react fast
>>337531136
>>337535043
Which is also why Rafe says that you are a shitty fencer
>>337535369
It takes one shitty fencer to know another.otherwise you won't have known he said that.
