I'm at Road of Sacrifices and I'm still using all my default equipment besides a Battle Axe which I got very early on (and upgraded). All equipment I've come across since has either been too high-level or inferior to my default stuff. Am I missing something?
>>337496097
Just wear whatever looks cool to you
>>337496097
>>337496645
Also why aren't you leveling up
>>337496749
It's a random picture from the internet that serves its purpose, since it looks the same as my guy.
>>337496097
you can get through the entire game with a straight sword and starting gear
Why is his shield upside down?
>>337496097
well, why would you want something equivalent to what you have?
>>337497054
That's how you hold it.
>>337497158
No it's not, what the fuck?
>>337496097
From the sounds of it, you're missing the part where you level up to use the new gear, if you want to.
>>337497054
It isn't. Look again and try thinking for a second
>>337497306
Imagine having your shield on your arm like in the OP.
Now bring it up to cover your chest.
![templar2[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/1Pv0VFG.jpg "templar2[1].jpg")
>>337497342
>It isn't. Look again and try thinking for a second
A normal shield has straps like this.
>>337497306
If he were to move his arm to hold the shield up in front of him, the shield would be upright. It's being portrayed as it would realistically be held. You're just too used to the nonsense that games and movies in general tend to show.
>>337497476
No, it wouldn't, it's strapped at a 90 degree angle of what it should be >>337497473
>>337497473
Only some, plenty have a horizontal hold on the back, which would flip the shield as shown if held with the arm down. How hard is that to see?
You'll find fallen knight soon and become a living meme.
>>337497558
Anon, there are plenty of shields in history which were held differently to that one
>>337497558
So you agree it's not upside down
>>337497628
Fallen knight, Artorias and Abyss Watcher set users are all terrible.
>>337497628
What exactly is it about the fallen knight set that gets people to use it?And why does it trigger people?
>>337497854
It looks cool and /v/ is full of hipsters
![9677bbbdf5f2e9600b5b2d292e851c32[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/SJAopkt.jpg "9677bbbdf5f2e9600b5b2d292e851c32[1].jpg")
>>337497589
>Only some, plenty have a horizontal hold on the back
What are you on about? This is the historically accurate way.
>>337497986
A historically accurate way, not the.
You seem to have somehow convinced yourself that every civilisation in history held every shield the same way. Just think about that for a second and you'll realise how ridiculous it sounds.
>>337497854
It's a popular set so the it seems like the people who use it are generally worst at the game but that's just cause there's more of them.
>>337498225
>that every civilisation in history held every shield the same way.
So Knight McKnighterson wears his Knightly Kite Shield while knighting around like ALALALALALABLABLA UHURU CLICKETY CLICK THE ZULU CHIEF for some reason?
What other civilisation that developed medieval European kite shields is there?
>>337498426
Who says the shield in the game is a European kite shield? There's no Europe in Souls. They just decided to use lots of different influences and merge them together because it's a fantasy setting, how is that hard to understand?
>>337496097
the way defense is calculated, as long as you're wearing something you're mostly fine
just wear whatever looks the coolest and change armor when you need something specific, like fire or magic resistant armor
remember the game is 80% skill and 20% stats
I played as assassin first, and when i made a knight character i saw that is ridiculously stronger, the game is like 10 times easy as knight, at least at the start.
>>337498696
Stop avoiding my question and answer it first, then we can continue.
>>337497306
>wear shield up right
>bring in front of chest
>pointy end faces upwards
>>337498849
Your question is both leading and irrelevant and so is the answer. Naturally, nowhere but Europe produced European shields, hence the world European. But what on earth does that have to do with this game that isn't set in Europe and does not adhere to real world history?
>>337498849
your question deviates from the main argument moron
>>337498980
Why would you bring your hand up to your face, it's not boxing, your arm is almost horizontal ffs.
>>337497558
see
with the shield of this picture it would also look like its upside down unless you walk with your arm like on the right pic
>>337498842
Because Knight has the best starting equipment in the game and the least points wasted in useless stats.
>>337498849
There is what... 5-6 ways to grip a shield? With completely different grips and handles.
Whichever is wanted is used.
Whichever is trending is used.
So by itself there is no such thing as a "euro kite shield" because you could find all the grip variants if you digged.
>>337498426
>historical nerd
>racist as fuck
>spazzes out over nothing
pick 3
>>337499056
Ok, so which shields and armor was the dude's design in the OP inspired by? Shalalalalalom Lom Lom Lom Lom Lom the 3rd's Ceremonial Martian Pumpkin Armor? Or perhaps something we already mentioned?
>>337497986
if you hold the shield this way at rest it's still going to be upside down, maybe at a slight angle, but upside down nonetheless
>>337498426
Kite Shields straps have had numerous designs though. Including cross shape, horizontal and vertical. There wasn't a set standard
>>337499115
maybe so your fucking head doesn't get chopped off.
>>337499214
Both, you fucking idiot. Do you not understand the concept of taking inspiration from multiple things?
>>337499215
It'll just straight back, not upside down.
>>337499115
what the fuck
is this a legitimate question?
>>337499214
>Shalalalalalom Lom Lom Lom Lom Lom the 3rd's Ceremonial Martian Pumpkin Armor?
Fucking hell, anon. You need to calm down and grow up.
>>337499214
Is this really how you want to spend your weekend?
>>337499214
As Shalalalalalom Lom Lom Lom Lom Lom the 4th, I can tell you my Dad's armour is uncannily similar .
>>337499231
kek
>>337499374
Ok, can you post historical drawings of Padishah Shalalalalalom Lom Lom Lom Lom Lom the 3rd's Ceremonial Martian Pumpkin Armor so we can compare please.
>>337497628
don't forget your dark sword and grass crest shield!
I'll use this thread.
I'm getting a bit tired of these stupid 1hitko bosses.
I'm at the dancer and although he's easy as funk for the most part I'm getting killed in one hit by those infinite spinning blades.
What am I doing wrong.
28vit I think
>>337496097
Gear doesn't matter in Souls games. The difference between the best weapon (damage wise) and a typically bad weapon is that you will kill an enemy 1-2 hits faster with the best weapon. Armor is practically meaningless unless you wear the heaviest stuff, which again stops being meaningful late into the game.
Wear and use whatever you think is cool or you like. There is very little that is considered so bad you shouldn't use it.
>>337499838
28 vit or vigor? dodge more and keep your distance when she starts spinning
>>337499838
Run away from that shit.
Personally once she drew her second blade I kept my distance and cast dorhys gnawing. But I guess thats only for faith users.
>>337499935
it kinda mattered more in 1 and 2 when you could upgrade them
i kinda miss being able to upgrade armor
>literally can't get any embers to stop being one shotted by mileycyrus/dragonslayer on SL1 run because you can't fuck co-op at this level
IT'S
NOT
FAIR
how viable is the white hair talisman?
>>337499838
If you're on your first playthrough and have 27+ Vigor, nothing in the game can one-shot you if you have full HP
>>337500196
Just don't get hit, nigga.
>>337499731
Urgh, I can no longer tell if you're just trying to rile people up or if you're actually this dense. I used to refuse to believe that people could actually fail to understand things this much, but now I'm not so sure.
Show me something that proves From's explicit intent to copy a real shield exactly. You're the one claiming that the image in the OP is somehow incorrect, so the burden of proof is on you.
I am very much enjoying the kite shield history sperglord's posts
Please continue
>>337499982
The one that gives hp. I'm a bit above 1k.
So just run away? I hate that but OK.
>>337500076
Pure melee here.
I'm honestly not loving the bosses so far.
Too little hp and too fucking powerful on their combos.
DaS1 really hit a sweetspot there IMO.
>>337497306
Lmfao get out of here ya cunt
>>337500341
where are the grils from
>>337499838
You have to be pretty underpowered or plain shit to have trouble with Dancer, considering she just walks around lets you hit her completely unguarded for 75% of the fight.
>>337500209
It's fine if you're not casting any dark spells.
I use Yorshka's Chime and I feel bad.
![189287_457893964265911_1238048449_n[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/6agezuz.jpg "189287_457893964265911_1238048449_n[1].jpg")
>>337500297
>Show me something that proves From's explicit intent to copy a real shield exactly.
So basically, if a game had a character holding a gun like this, you would consider it just fine and demand proof that they copied a real gun?
>>337499838
Vit or vig? If the former, you wasted your levels. If the latter, I don't believe that the boss is actually one-shotting you
>>337497854
It's the best armor I've found so far, though I haven't checked the Abyss Watcher shit, which I imagine is probably better. It also gives decent defense against fire, and I am able to wear the whole set without hitting 70.0%.
>>337500270
Some bosses combos can and will.
Dancers grab does like 90% oh my hp and one shots me if I'm wearing the ring to give more I frames.
>>337500514
level vitality some, it's the defense stat and you can wield heavier armor
nothing should be one shotting you unless are not wearing armor, you take something like 10-15% more damage for not wearing pieces of armor. 50% more for going naked
>>337500715
I haven't leveled up vitality once.
>>337500628
Sure, if that's the way the gun worked in this entirely fictional setting. Either way, that image is nothing even close to the OP since it has already been pointed out multiple times that the way the shield is being held is both reasonable and believable.
>>337500574
how viable for a pyro build with maybe some miracles thrown in?
>>337499838
Just roll into each swing. Time it correctly and use the i-frames to roll into the blades. You can usually just spam roll, and it'll be timed perfectly with the swings. That's how I've done it every time, and I'm on NG++.
>>337500832
>the way the shield is being held is both reasonable and believable.
Why didn't people hold it like that in historical context then? Do Dark Souls people have some special bone or muscle structure on the left arm specifically?
>>337500826
on my first playthrough i didnt either
i soft capped vigor and capped both str and dex, so i started pooling points into vitality and soon enough i was taking significantly less damage
>>337497854
It has good defense for it's weight, on top of being easily obtainable.
Host is a shitter list:
>host is using Artorias set
>host is using Abyss Watcher set
>host is using Fallen Knight set
>host is using Dark Sword
>host is using a greatshield
>host is using a med shield other than want
>host is using Uchi
>>337501178
>host
you invaded them, they werent looking for a fight so you get what you get, silly red man
>>337501039
What are you even asking? There are lots of shields that are held in different ways to one another in the game, how is this a concept that you're having trouble with? Are you saying that if one shield has a diagonal strap, another can't have a horizontal bar hold for some reason? It might not be the most practical, but that's why shield designs evolved to become more efficient as time went on.
>>337498426
You should go ask your mother if she'll up the dosage a little for you.
>>337501296
they may have summoned you
>>337496097
Look at this carebear who started with the easiest class in the game that gets the best gear at the start, whining about not finding upgrades not even 20% of the way through the game
Who /deprived/ here and was excited to find deserter trousers?
>>337501178
I use the chaos blade a lot but I imagine people think I'm using the uchigatana. Same difference I guess
>>337501306
>>What are you even asking?
I'm asking why would someone hold a kite shield, which is a specific historical shield design that was worn with a strap I linked in the posts above, in the retarded way the OP pic is holding it. Do you even know what a kite shield is?
Someone tell me something. I'm in NG+ right now. Didn't get Orbeck in the first playthrough because my INT was not at 10. Now I can get him. But the thing is, I want to get the Morion Blade but I don't want to level anymore. How the fuck can I get Yuria to show without leveling?
>>337501418
Kite Shields didn't have a single specific design for straps.
Find a source that says otherwise.
>>337499838
Don't get hit by those infinite spinning blades, obviously.
When the animation starts, run and hide behind a pillar.
>>337501178
>talking shit about Undead Legion set
I'll push your shit in any day
>>337501378
but you put your red sign down
>Fighting anyone, invader/host/phantom
>They refuse to do anything because they want to parry you
Somehow something more boring than backstab fishers have emerged.
>>337501418
Do you somehow not get that this is a fantasy setting? Do you not understand that it's a fictional game that doesn't adhere to the same historical context and rules as our own world? If you actually can't get you head around this, then there's no point even continuing with this any more, you need help.
>>337501418
tell us why holding it the way the OP is wouldn't work
>>337501429
You can't. Yoel has to die from giving you his levels to get her to appear.
>>337499115
>>337501178
>>host is using a med shield other than want
Seriously what the fuck is up with that shield
Spent most of the game with the stone parma, it shits on every single shield. Then I find this fucker and it in turns shits on the stone parma. Why do other med shields even exist?
>>337497054
For You
>>337501575
>not carrying bombs, knives, talismans, and seeds no matter the circumstances
what's the matter, babby can't press dpad down?
>>337500835
It should be fine. It won't be as good as your Pyromancy flame obviously for sanaf . It'll be shit for dark miracles. I'd only use it if you were mainly miracles and wanted Pyromancy utility I guess. But it should be good enough
>>337501780
I guess they figured it was well-hidden and well-guarded enough to justify making it so good
>>337501780
want gives 10% more souls
>>337501512
Burden of proof is on you.
>>337501178
>>host is using a med shield other than want
Black knight is good, it let you use weapon arts.
>>337497054
Matt is a fucking retard
>>337501512
Ok, let's see it then. Let's see the other designs.
>>337501649
Why does it have kite shields then?
>>337501678
The weight is distributed in such a way that it's extremely unwieldy to swing around, unlike the normal way, which keeps it vertical and at slight angles through most of the moves you do, with your arm in a normal position in which you can use your hand to grip another weapon, defend yourself, brace yourself against the wall, floor, beam, etc. This is all described in Silver or Talhoffer, or other medieval martial arts manuals.
The Dark Souls retarded way makes it so that you perform the dumbbell curl every time you want some protection.
>>337501728
I'm fucking fucked aren't I.
>>337501959
there's literally no reason to use a shield in Dark Souls 3
>>337499546
One of the responses I've seen to a sperglord
>>337501937
No it isn't, you're the one claiming that all kite shields were held the same way. Others are simply disputing that claim. The burden of proof is entirely on you
>>337501905
ahh ok, i was just wondering if it was worth a slab but i guess itd just be better to have both the flame and a separate chime
>>337501178
>shitter list
>not including estoc
>>337501853
Wait what, it doesn't even have a forearm strap? So this is specifically designed to break your wrist?
>>337502091
>hating on the best weapon in the game
stay mad shitter
>>337501853
Is this suppose to be criticizing the holding of the shield? I am no expert on shields but it makes sense to me.
>>337497854
It looks like Kylo Ren's armor and mask.
:3
>Grass crest/want on back and 2h every weapon
It's the only way to play.
I use Want when white phantoming, and crest during normal play.I know grass crest a shit, but i like the stacking stam regen with chloranthony ring
>>337500514
>So just run away? I hate that but OK.
Why the fuck would you hate running away against an attack that you know will kill you if you just fucking stand there? What kind of fucked up logic is that?
>>337502231
I'm pretty sure it doesn't stack
>>337501937
the burden of proof is on the one who makes a claim you turd
>>337502067
Others are disputing that claim with no examples while examples showing otherwise have already been shown.
Go show us a kite shield that was held in a different way if you're so sure.
>>337502135
You seem to be under the delusion that the player character in these games is a normal human. They are not. They use the power of souls to attain inhuman levels of strength and are capable of shrugging off all wounds with the magic of fire on top of that.
>>337501381
My current character i played as deprived. Still didnt use the deserter armor tho. Went loincloth until i got the fire keeper set.
Why do people shit talk the claymore?
I've been schooling fools PvP and PvE from SL20
Fuck ton of endurance and my wide ark R1 locks people into a 5 hit combo, it's a great weapon. Sucks on some bosses though range feels short
>some scrubtier red invades me
>I start pushing his shit
>he runs to the nearest group of enemies
Worst fucking invaders ever.
>>337496097
Nope. Armor is completely meaningless now. Especially with poise being a complete non-existent thing.
As long as your load equip is a good level this game was designed to be Fashion Souls. I just put on what looks cool and roll around like a madman. Sometime I block but only when I'm not sure of a bosses moveset yet.
Also one of the classes starts with a straight sword that will get you all the way to the end easy.
>>337502303
you're wrong
but both are shit anyway, just smoke some green blossom everyday
>>337502452
it's just mid-tier
are curved greatswords any faster?
i imagine them to be
exile greatsword is probably faster with higher AR and a better art
>>337501989
Nobody here knows how to actually hold a shield or they would know that holding a large kite shield like a buckler would get very tiring very quickly, let alone using it to block demons and undead that wield extremely unwieldy weapons that would smash a normal person in one swing.
The only reason they do it like that is because it makes the animation for changing back and forth from two handed grip easier to do. It's just like how there's no way half the moves they use would be any good in a real fight or how you can't actually roll to dodge everything. It's a video game bro.
>>337502470
>Load equip
I know 70% is where you fat roll, but are there 3 roll speeds like in previous games?
>>337502419
>You seem to be under the delusion that the player character in these games is a normal human. They are not. They use the power of souls to attain inhuman levels of strength and are capable of shrugging off all wounds with the magic of fire on top of that.
Why do they even wear armor or shields then? Why aren't they floating tentacle fetuses?
>>337502452
SL 99
48 VITALITY
66 ENDURANCE
12 ATTUNEMENT...
16 FUCKING STRENGTH
...
10 DEXTERITY
>>337501575
It's the hornet ring, they want to oneshot you and post a video for sicknasty youtube views.
>>337502661
2 but the first one is negible and at 30% or something
>>337502135
Not all shields have forearm straps. Roundshields in real life were wielded without them and were extremely effective.
>>337502692
Fashion souls
If you want to play Bloodborne, go play Bloodborne.
>>337502467
fucks red
who /grape/ here?
>>337497473
Anon, you do know that this game isn't set in the real world, right? Even if it has shields called kite shields, that doesn't mean they all have to be designed exactly like real kite shields.
Are you the kind of person who gets upset at the oversized weapons too because they're not historically accurate?
>>337502717
what rings u got bithc
>>337502823
>Fashion souls
If they only care about fashion but not about the practical history of the items they're wearing, why don't they wear codpieces on their heads?
>>337502661
Yeah, I don't know the exact levels but I keep mine around 30-40% for the best results. Even at around 60% it becomes annoyingly slow but not necessarily fat rolling.
>>337502692
Because they wanted a medieval aesthetic. They did exactly what you're asking for in Bloodborne.
i kind of want to make a luck pvp build, is it viable?
>>337502913
>>337502661
Yes, but the difference between fast and mid roll is tiny. The distance is more noticeable than the speed.
>>337501387
As long as you dress the part.
>These fucking 12 year old retards who think Dark Souls has a realistic representation of how shields are worn and used
Holy fucking shit i a dying, God you people are so fucking dumb it's embarrassing. Literally only true for the bucklers and the small shields every thing else is completely fucking wrong and done to avoid clipping issues and obstructing the players view.
Fuck this series attracts all the retards, at least in other games people are aware that it is not meant to be realistic.
>>337502836
>Even if it has shields called kite shields, that doesn't mean they all have to be designed exactly like real kite shields.
Why not call them Ye Olde King Retardo's Wristbreakers then?
>>337502962
yeah.
>>337502661
70% rolling is as good as flipping around in DS1
>>337501387
>>337503094
I wear Shiva's armor if I'm using the Chaos Blade.
I fucking hate katanas though, the R1 feels like it never connects. I know dashing R1 is the name of the game but I don't want to use that move exclusively.
>>337502962
If you use bleed weapons and go hollow with a hollow enchanted weapon you can bleed people out in like 4 hits
>>337502962
Don't know about PvP but I gave up on my Luck build for PvE just recently. It's just plain not that good.
It takes forever to get weapons that scale well with luck and while finding items easier is nice it's hardly that noticeable. I had pumped 30+ into it and it just didn't pan out well for me. Maybe others had better results.
>>337503105
Shut the fuck up you dumb cock sucker. The shield DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. The shields need straps.
Really like vordts hammer does it scale well into endgame? NG
>>337503331
And there's these fucking mongoloids with no reading comprehension
ALL the retards
>>337503112
Because they didn't want to. It's fantasy, they can call it whatever the fuck they want. If you want a game with perfectly historically accurate representations to shields, then go make it yourself, don't get upset when other people don't do it for you.
>>337497409
Seriously the shield animation for souls games is utter bullshit, don't even try to defend it.
>>337503238
Were I katana inclined I'd probably go for the Black Blade because I think it's R2 looks cool.
>>337501178
How is Uchi being a shitter?
It's not even close to being OP and it's right next to second bonfire of the game on a guy that can wreck new players with it considering he looks like a normal mook that's slow as fuck.
>>337503436
I don't know about that weapon specifically, but as a general rule, boss weapons scale poorly towards the late game
>>337503568
But the animation makes sense. It might not be practical in real life, but the animation flows well and it's a fucking video game. Most of the attacks are nonsense too, but who cares? It's a game.
>>337503436
Boss weapons are pretty garbage as the game progresses in comparison to just base weapons in the game.
Great for the time though as gimmick weapons.
Doesn't even matter though. If it's a weapon you like then it'll get you to the end no problem. These games can be beaten with virtually nothing and soul level 1
>>337503462
Look at pic related you want to killing fight me pussy? Come say I cant read to my avatar's face.
>>337498774
>remember the game is 80% skill and 20% stats
VIG says hello.
It's a pretty big difference in difficulty whether an attack will instantly kill you or just force you to drink some estus. If you can tank the damage, the difficulty drops substantially.
>>337503238
Classic FROM.
In DeS and DaS1, katana R1 was the name of the meta.
The R1 strikes got nerfed good with DaS2 while thrust swords and longswords ended up into the fastest weapon slot, making them pretty much ideal for PvP.
>>337500196
>because you can't co-op at this level
I mean, if you're subjecting yourself to a SL1 run for the challenge, why would you even consider summoning an option? Doesn't that kind of defeat the point of the challenge run?
Still, Eygon of Carim should be available as an any-level NPC summon for Dragonslayer Armour.
>>337504095
It's not as prominent as it used to be.
In DaS1, the more VIT you had, the more it kept giving each time you leveled it up.
In DaS2, it still gave as much with each point.
Now, it gives a lot early on but much less later, making moderate investment usually good idea.
What's the armor set that's on the case of the game? I don't think I've ever seen it and I'm at the end. Unless I'm missing something. Is it the final boss' armor?
Always thought it was dumb how you hold a shield in Dark Souls.
Then again, it's made by a bunch of japs, they never invented them.
I feel like I wasted my last respecc. I should have gone Int- Anri's Straight Sword has been proclaimed to be some God-tier weapon with a Luck build. It caps out around 450- not exactly God like desu.
>>337496097
you can literally complete the entire game solely on upgrading starting gear of knight
>>337504483
You can buy it from the Shrine Handmaid after you beat the last boss before NG+
Possiblly aslo after going into NG+ too,though I'm not sure on the latter.
>>337504547
Don't tell me you don't infinitely respecc?
>>337504035
>Come say I cant read to my avatar's face.
Trolling has evolved.
>>337504613
So you don't automatically get thrown into ng+ after beating it? That's good to know.
>>337504547
Its true strngth is that it makes everyone bleed gallons of blood. Put a carthus rogue on it and watch health meters pop.
>>337504612
You can literally beat the game naked with an unupgraded club if you're good enough at dodging, same as any other souls game.
>>337498980
Eww, stop posting babies.
Pedos.
>>337504735
Yeah, one of the favourable changes that made it from DS2 is that it lets you choose when to enter NG+
>>337503462
But he's right. The upside-down shields are perfectly correct, but holding them by a handle at your fingertips like in the webm is physically impossible. Not even considering having to hold that weight only with your wrist, if anything was to give it a blow it would just turn around and slap you in the face.
Every shield ever blocks with your arm strenght, not the wrist. Some shields do that in DaS I believe, but the ones that don't look retarded. Especially the greatshields.
>>337501935
The best part is actually its stability.
>>337504386
I mean being summoned, it's the only 100% way to get Embers.
>start game
>log in fail
>finally get in
>all that lagging
>>337505502
Do Embers carry over the NG+?
Because I put my summon sign down constantly and barely use any at all once I lose the given ember status for succeeding. For fuck's sake I'm up to 75 Embers at this point.
>>337504398
The fuck are you talking about? It's alway had disminishing returns.
DS1: capped at 30 then 50
DS2: capped at 20 then 50
DS3: capped at 40 then 50
If anything vigor is MORE prominent in 3
>>337501178
>host is playing for fun
how dare they!
>>337505132
DS2 always let you choose. DS1 didn't.
>>337506008
I have fucking 400+ embers I don't even know what to do with that much.
>>337505132
Yeah, I loved DS2's inclusion of that.
Getting to choose early on which bonfire areas you wanted to go NG+ for item discovery choices or just plain challenge was great.
Dark Souls 2 may have fucked some things with Soul Memory and general lore/flow but it did some great things as well. Plus the DLC was amazing. Still hoping Dark Soul's 3 knocks it out of the park on that one.
>>337506016
I bumped it up to 40 and still think I need more lol
how the fuck would anyone even be able to finish DaS 3 if they had nothing invested in vigor
>>337506543
I finished it with 20 and I never ever embered
Plenty of people doing SL1 runs
Gitten güt
>>337506016
>DS1: capped at 30 then 50
Try again.
I rechecked and the HP gain in 1 is actually even instead of percentual just like in 2, but it's capped at 40 and 50 in 1.
I don't even remember the details about 2 except it being steadily useful until 50.
Dark Souls III doesn't have any "caps" on vigor, it gives out different amounts at each level.
>>337506543
It's easier to not get hit because rolls are more powerful. Enemies are faster, sure, but they are not significantly harder to exploit once you figure out how.
Panic rolls in DaS1 and DaS2 PvP were relatively easily punishable as well but they're actually fucking good in 3.
>maxed sorcerer build except for magic clutch ring
>use obscuring ring in its place
>get summoned as part of a 4 man ganksquad
>spam affinity, great heavy soul arrow, crystal soul spear
>pull out crystal estoc and equip hornet when i'm empty
>get over 2 million souls from that session
>mostly my kills
>eventually lose connection to master's world
I am the best ganker in the world
>>337501178
Fuck you son Lothic knight shield is cash money turns the nameless king into a pussy.
>>337496097
You can get through the whole game just fine with the Knight's gear.
Just need to upgrade the longsword as applicable.
Working as intended.
>>337504778
yeah but knight's gears are so much better than other starting equipment or even some late game drops/soul items
SS is imba as hell in this game too
>>337496097
>not just getting the Spiked Hammer from the nuns and crushing every nigga
Hey guys, anyone happen to have a moonlight greatsword they don't need? I traded my for the magic I have greatwood, wolnir, pontiff, dancer, demon, gundyr, wolf souls so you can choose your weapon. PS4 here.
>>337496097
Are you just now realizing the fact that this series doesn't follow the "flat upgrade gear" formula?
You can finish with the shit you start in
>>337504641
Only five respecs per NG I believe.
>>337504767
Will test- though I only have like two or three bosses left.
>>337506845
I rechecked too
http://darksouls.wikia.com/wiki/Vitality
1-30: gain more HP per point
31-49: gain less HP per point
50+: gains halve and slowy drop
In DS2:
1-20: 30 HP
21-49: 20 HP
50+: 5 HP
>>337502467
Whenever I invade, I just consider myself another mob hellbent of fucking you up.
I got around 30 tongues in one day doing this.
>>337506543
Patience.
Are there any long axes? Two handing regular axes look awkward and great axes are too short.
>>337507782
SOME MOTHERFUCKERS SAY KOSM
>>337507607
Of course you are going to find something that's a straight up upgrade of something, like the Profaned GS compared to the Zwei.
>>337507806
>SL1 broadsword run
My fucking bro, I'm doing the same thing and I'm really enjoying it. Only started out so I'm just getting to Crystal Sage
>>337496097
>too high level
You need to level up bruh. Better weapons have higher requirements. Also leveling up increases the damage your current weapons do as well. Provided you level up their scaling stats.
>>337507806
I'm talking about first casual playthrough not some autist mastering everything lol
>>337507902
>Profaned GS compared to the Zwei
Try Lorian's Greatsword. You can put fire on it with even just 1 FP, so if you equip a simple caestus or parrying shield on your offhand you get infinite buffs for it pretty much.
>>337504663
>no primordial serpent in DaS 3
I was quite disappointed by that.
>>337507814
Halberds.
The Crescent Axe is the most axe-like.
God I love the Bronze set so fucking much
>>337507717
>1-30: gain more HP per point
It's not really any kind of cap. You keep gaining over 20 points of HP per level just like early on even past that.
In DaS2 it was pretty natural why everyone went for 50VIG. With the usual rings you had something like 2500 HP.
>>337502467
>mfw as soon as he does this I use a Seed of the Giant Tree
>mfw he starts getting completely buttfucked from the mobs he is hiding behind
I love it
>>337508072
Ah, doesn't that sword has the Stance move instead of the pancake flip?
>>337507983
I'm pretty shit la. If I can get this far, then there's no excuse for you on a regular run.
>>337502913You can actually get down a level and put down a sign, which I did. I'm sure that message sign I put down was the cause for a few dozen deaths.
>>337507782
I maintain this mindset too.
I did so after getting raped by the oh so present Host and his ganksquad of babbie phantoms. I go full Vietcong and oh dear sweet lord if the host uses a seed.
I get to bring the army to them. Sweet victory.
>>337508218
Let's hope the DLC fleshes them out more. I still don't understand what is Frampt and Kaathe's game. In DaS1 people theorized that Kaathe and other serpents simply wanted an Age of Dark, but in DaS3 Kaathe's Dark Lord plan was retconned into usurping the First Flame. His goal is clearly a Lord for hollows.
>>337507814
BKGA and Crescent Axe.
>>337508446
Nah you get to throw people up in the air all day with Lorians
>>337508565
>Kaathe
>His
I always thought Kaathe was a girl.
And yes, I know it also has a deep voice.
>>337496097
Starter knight gear is GOAT in terms of fashion, weight and defense. I still use on my dude too. Dabble in other armour too but only for a change of pace.
>>337508536
The best thing is that you can use emotes to hide better, Silent Ally even mutes the "phantom hum". It's so good when an ambush actually goes according to plan.
> Find rapier in undead settlment
> Stuck with it for the entire game
> Tried other weapons , they all seem shit
Where my rapier bros at?
>>337509007
You could try Ricard's, feels like an overall upgrade, and it's /fa/ as fuck.
>>337509176
Might try , not there yet. Just got to the garden.
My rapier is +7 infused with fire and I cant seem to find chunks to upgrade it further yet.
Thanks for the suggestion!
>>337497306
it's a horizontal handle shield, Anon, it actually utilizes more of the arm for increased stability, Vertical handle shields are only good if it's accompanied by an arm-strap and is wide enough for you to get your whole forearm behind it.
>>337509297
If you are in the Garden, you are not far off. You just need to kill the King, and then get the meditation emote.
How are Pure/Primarily bow/xbow builds in this game(PVE wise)? They always seemed not that good in DS1 so I'm curios how viable they are in DS3.
>>337509667
They do good damage but you only get 99 arrows of each type. You'll run out.
Great for complimenting dex/str/quality builds though.
>>337509667
Bows are great when coupled with stealth, Obscuring ring helps a lot against other players, I recommend you get both a "long" and "short" bow, since they work a bit differently, Long Bows are more traditional, Short Bows can shot after a roll or while sprinting.
Pharis and Short for DEX
Dragonrider and Composite for Quality.
![dragonrider_bow[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/ihTXyg0.png "dragonrider_bow[1].png")
>>337509667
I fucking loved Dragonrider bow in DaS2 and beat Guardian Dragon and Sihn just by using it and 100% fire defense Rebel shield, though I haven't tried out the DaS3 version yet.
>>337500196
farm Lothric knights, anon.
>>337509821
>>337509962
I see thanks, I'll give it a try. What would you recommend as a backup melee weapon? Used Curved Swords in a previous run so preferably a different type. Also what about Greatbows, Are they just not that good?
>>337507806
Jesus christ
>Dancer on a low hp character
AAAAAAAAAAAH
>>337510387
The dude has access to pyros, its not that bad. She really does not do well against ranged characters
>>337507806
what do you spend ur souls on?
>>337510575
he donates them to charity of course
>>337510387
She's easy as hell man, killed her on the first try.
>>337510520
The only Pyromancy I'm using is Carthus Flame Arc.
>>337503287
Speedrunners go all Luck and use Anri's Short Sword which is super easy to get.
Shit bruh, I finished Souls 1 and 2 with my starting weapons. Both Battle Axes from the Bandit Class.
Only thing I switched out was armor into a cooler looking set and a new shield like 75% into the game.
Anyone know a good hiding spot in Crucifixion Woods so you darkmoon fucks can get your concords while I just hide or something.
I really feel bad for you guys.
>>337510893
Well shit props to you friend, I don't have the patience or the skill/experience for that kind of thing.
>>337496097
Get a broadsword, infuse with fire
upgrade as much possible, and there you go - you have a very decent weapon that will get you past mid game
>>337510361
Greatbows are as always Quality, and they are hilarious with the Obscuring ring.
>>337497854
use S.robes and elite knight helm.
foe what ever reason it puts the hood up on that helm
Not even no helmet gets the hood up but the elite knight puts the hood up.
>>337511291
I got the Dark Sword and thinged it with Refined Gem, +4. Seems fineexcept for when I got destroyed by the first Lord of Cinder
>trying to get a Heavy Gem
DROP THEM YOU SLUG FUCKEERRRRRSSS
>>337511291
Pretty sure Raw Broadsword is just better.
Assuming Knight, put 3 points into Faith so you can use a Raw Astora Straight Sword, which is even better than that.
