FUCK THIS DICKHEAD
I'M NOT A FUCKING 9 YEAR OLD GIRL
also ds1 thread
Butterfly is one of the easiest bosses ever.
>>337478130
Harder than almost any boss in Dark Souls 3
>>337477908
>I'M NOT A FUCKING 9 YEAR OLD GIRL
Well, do you want to be?
Do you want me to make you feel like one for a night?
>>337478197
>>337477908
Went for it after Quelaag. Great fireball raped it.
>>337478130
pinwheel desu
>>337478564
>mfw fighting Moonlight Butterfly and Sif before Capra DemonIt didn't occur to me until reaching the lower burg that I had made a wrong turn somewhere.
>>337478130
I actually got hit once by it though. Taurus demon on the other hand
>>337478818
STREAM
>>337478818
>Went even further after Quelaag.
>Mfw Ceaseless Discharge.
>Mfw after it.
>>337477908
probably bait but
go to bonfire and use humanity
you can summon a mage npc that will do the entire fight for you
summon spot is located under the stairs before the boss fog wall
![dragonslayerarmour4_pilgrimbutterfly_tc[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/VR0o5Ns.jpg "dragonslayerarmour4_pilgrimbutterfly_tc[1].jpg")
o hai
>>337479161
These things showing up late in the game made no sense.
I never defeated the Butterfly, I don't like Int very much so I never made a build around it and never bothered.
I kinda forget it exists.
How do I get the motivation to go through Sens Fortress? That area is making me way more mad than it should.
>>337479395
All you gotta do is dodge and wait for it to land
>>337479568
What's giving you trouble?
>>337479581
Or summon beatrice
>>337479568
Take it easy, take it slow. If you rush in something is bound to get you. Just learn the layout and slowly make your way out.
>>337479161
what the hell were those things.
>>337479275
you actually encountered them at the high wall, only they were not fully grown yet
>>337479161
What's the lore behind these? Can you fight them?
>>337479395
The only real issue is dodging because blocking its magic attacks will fuck over lower leveled players.
Hell, you could just summon Beatrice near there, and she can effectively solo it while it flies around.
>>337479904
They control the Dragonslayer armour like a puppet. That's why they die when you kill it.
>>337479843
they remind me of the bed of chaos
>>337478197
nice meme
>>337479843
>>337479904
>>337479843
Final form of the pilgrims.
>>337479658
If I had to name something, me.
I'm just dying to stupid traps and it really lowers my motivation. I can handle the enemies but triggering a trap and not being able to react in time to it really grinds my gears. I know the area is designed to be like that but up until now I've gotten through everything by going slowly and surveying my surroundings.
>>337479756
I guess it does come down to that: learning the layout by continuous deaths instead of dealing with stuff as it comes. This kinda thing really turns me off. Oh well.
Another thing. The giant cats in darkroot, how am I supposed to deal with them if I don't have a quick weapon? I just homeward bone nope'd the hell out when the other 2 popped up.
AMAZING NIPPLE AHEAD
>>337480221
I noticed that but what purpose did they serve? It's like a lot of trippy shit was thrown into the lore for no reason.
>>337477908
just get a high magic res. shield u trash
>>337480221
I didn't get what was going on with half the shit in Lothric. I didn't get why hollows were turning into trees. I didn't get what those weird skeletal butterfly dragons were. I feel like there was a lot of lore left out. Hopefully the DLC fills the gaps.
>>337480308
Just look out for the 2 or 3 floor traps and proceed slowly. There's not much else that should surprise you really. Observe blood stains in the area. I'm not talking about online player blood stains.
>>337480221
>>337480291
Oh shit, I never noticed that. thanks for letting me know.
>>337479161
>>337480221
So they just remade Blood Borne, but with Souls armor and weapons?
>>337480892
>actually giving hints for the fucking butterfly
this guy is pulling your leg, nobody can get that far in the game and think that the butterfly of all things is hard
>>337481445
The trees on the high wall aren't actually the pilgrims though. They're just sort of fucked up undead who are sprouting into trees.
The pilgrims are the ones from the intro and specifically came from Londor for ????
The shells on their back are to keep the fucked up shit from going everywhere.
Pretty sure the name for the flying ones are Pilgrim Butterflies too.
>>337477908
>Bad bossfights in dark souls 1-3
oh what a surprise, you are after all playing the inferior game
bloodborne is waiting with its PERFECT array of PERFECT bosses
>>337481614
I would play Bloodborne but I can't deal with 30fps
>>337478818
>walk into the skeltals at the start
>keep going because giving up is for pussies
>level like crazy and only start thinking that something might be wrong after two-shooting Pinwheel
>go the other route and everything is a cakewalk
>>337480221
Actually no. They're the Londor Pilgrims, like Yoel. They have those stone shells on their back to prevent the growth of those branch-like wings.
Pontiff Sully also grows a similar pair of wings in his second phase. It's one of the things that identify a human who's fallen to Darkness.
>>337478465
im not op but yes please
>>337481614
boy o boy i sure do love
>Rom
>One Reborn
>Memelash
>Wet Nurse
>Amagdalya
>Literal mob bosses in the chalice dungeons
What a PERFECT array of PERFECT bosses indeed...
>>337480782
Is far left the Quellag's sister servant?
>>337481815
>>337481596
>The trees on the high wall aren't actually the pilgrims though.
Can't these tree guys be the pilgrims though?
>>337481489
Yeah, and better bosses and level design
>>337481750
>two-shooting pinwheel
How.
Yes, he's easy, I didn't lose once either and had only 3 flasks. But how in the fuck. Don't tell me he was weaker to fire than divine.
>>337482115
>Don't tell me he was weaker to fire than divine.
He is.
>>337482115
I think he meant that pinwheel two shot him. But yeah he was the easiest boss in the game. Him and Sanctuary guardian are the only bosses yet to kill me.
>>337482373
Well fuck me.
>>337477908
This is probably the first boss in DaS 1 where you can't block and rollan is forced, it's a tutorial for rollan esp since his homing attack will one shot you even on higher levels. Unless you somehow went back and got the Crest shield, you have abandon the shield for this fight.
Still, piss easy fight though.
With a non-shit pyro you can even one-shot kill Pinwheel.
>>337482619
OP here. Just beat. All I did was strip down and jump attack with zweihander.
>>337482487
I had a hard time with Sanctuary Guardian...
>>337482858
>still no new doujin from jun
It hurts
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought moonlight butterfly was one of the hardest bosses in the game
>extremely confined, narrow area
>nearly undodgeable/unblockable attacks
>unless you use magic there's only a brief ten second window where you can actually attack her
>>337482858
Hardest DLC boss for me.
Artorias doesn't give you many openings but if you are patient you can get your hits and he isn't that hard to avoid.
The dragon wasn't hard at all - It was just another hug and kill fight with only some slight special attack distractions.
And Manus while being super aggressive is just too slow with his attacks and so easy predictable.
The Sanctuary Guardian was aggressive and fast.
Any tips on cutting Kalameet's tail as a sourcer build, 45int? I can't manual aim crystal soul spears during his tail during the tail slam window, and he just seem to resist magic based dmg from melee.
Tried enchanted estoc +5, MLGS +5, MLBH +5, even demon spear +5 but he just shrugs off magic and even lightning damage.
On my like 10th try now, tempted to just give up and finish the fucker with dark beads...
>>337479568there's a bonfire once you reach the top
>>337477908
>tfw no loli Beatrice questline
>>337479568
No idea why so many people got afraid of Sens.
I died only like two times in there.
One death goes on the mimic and the other was me being too careless and falling into my death.
The traps are minus the first at the entrance are all fairly obvious. I didn't even know that the elevator can kill you if you stay on it because i simply walked out when i got to the upper floor.
>>337479568
I never understood people's problem with Sen's fortress. It's the easiest area in the game if you pay attention. It can only be difficult if you don't find the bonfire midway trough.
>>337483951
>I didn't even know that the elevator can kill you if you stay on it because i simply walked out when i got to the upper floor.
Heh
I had this same exact experience. I even casually walked through floor traps without seeing them and didn't get hit. The lightning Sneks didn't even hit me on those narrow walkways because the swinging pendulums blocked them. I had a nice time there.
>>337480908
Hollows are turning into trees because the world is reverting back to it's original state, just archtrees and dragons, since the flame hasn't been lit for so long. This is explained in the lore.
>>337482858
>tfw killed it on the first encounter
It was one of the most satisfying fights for me.
>>337483951
The elevator has blood on it and the elevator chain does a quick stop before going in all the way to the top.
>>337484429
That doesn't explain Pilgrim Butterflies, the weird statues at the Cathedral and the Castle, or random enemies suddenly exploding into black goop.
>>337484264
>>337483951
Same with Blighttown actually.
The toxin snipers are annoying and the endless respawning mosquitos drained me out of a few arrows but even with that the area wasn't hard at all. I actually kinda like it.
But okay. The only area i really hate is Lost Izalith and that for obvious reasons.
>>337479568
>not liking Sens fortress
its by far the best area in the game
>>337478130
Every boss is easy when you're not just getting into the game, summon people for every boss, and packing your guide reader crutch drake sword
>>337484429
So the age of dark is a meme?
>>337484535
>or random enemies suddenly exploding into black goop
That's concentrated Abyss. Abyss Watchers are corrupted by the Abyss themselves, and red-eyed ones are hostile to others. I think their swords which give a damage buff against "abyss enemies" work against those black goops and anything with glowing red eyes.
>>337484575
Blighttown was atmospherically amazing as long as you were on PC and didn't have to deal with that horrible console framerate drop. Going down wasn't all that bad but holy fuck was getting out of Blighttown a pain in the dick the first time.
>>337478947
>>337479059
shit movie
worse meme
>>337484668
>do everything posible
>go buttlerfly
>kill it on 6 hits
i just didn't went to that zone till i couldn't think of any other zone to go and explored a lot
>>337484770
>their swords which give a damage buff against "abyss enemies" work against those black goops and anything with glowing red eyes
Oh, that's interesting.
>>337482019
No it's a pilgrim without it's shell thing on
>>337484823
In all my replays i skip the swamp bonfire so i can teleport back to the top atleast.
>>337484575
When does Lost Izalith start? I remember hating every single area that involved lava. Also the tomb of giants because I never received or found a Lantern.
>>337479069
Holy Shit, I ended up cheesing him. Ceaseless is hard as fuck.
>>337484949
After Centipede.
>>337484949
I cheesed my way through tomb of giants by dropping off ledges and just rushing for the bottom didn't really fight any of the enemies.
>>337485049
He was just a shit boss. His attack where he bursts a huge flame towards you was broken as fuck.
>>337484823
>find The Great Hollow on my first playthrough
>cursed
>don't know about the shortcut to Firelink Shrine
>>337485125
That's what I ended up doing. Just running past everything and accidently finding Nito.
>>337484949
After you get the Lordvessel in Anor Londo you can enter Lost Izalith by going through the Demon Ruins beyond Quellag
>>337484668
Is that supposed to mean butterfly isn't easier than other bosses?
>>337485182
>having to go literally anywhere in DS1 before you get the Lordvessel
>getting cursed when you don't know how to get rid of curse
>spent half the game suffering with curse before I went to New Londo
Blind playthrough was suffering
>>337478564
i do her before any boss. souls to dupe early in the game, plus i always want to have dogring as soon as possibly
>>337484208
The bonfire is right near the end. So its understandable the mad people get in there. I remember my first run in there. I nearly dropped the game. After so much bullshit and difficulty spikes, i realized this game isnt fair. But i kept coming back qnd felt good when i beat the shit outta gwyn without parrying. I didnt even know he could be parried and riposted
>>337485595
Weirdly I didn't have any trouble getting through Sens. I spent hours banging my head against the wall in Anor Londo but Sens wasn't bad.
Then again I was a huge pussy and played 90% of the game hollow so I wouldn't get invaded, that probably helped a lot. But the Darkwraiths in DS1 were particularly obnoxious, oh boy a Pyromancer with a +10 lightning handaxe that does double my health in damage with every swing whoooo could have expected it!
>>337485595
I just did the old iron flesh and crystal halberd on Gwyn, because by that point I was burned out (no pun intended) by the game.
>>337485770
Anor Londor was ruined for me just because of those two archers.
>>337485915
And of course, out of everything in the entire series, they brought back that same fucking scenario in DS3. At least the ledge was bigger this time so you could fight them without falling off.
>>337479910
i'm fucking awful at souls games and i beat it on my 2nd try without the summon, just roll spamming all the attacks. just need it to land twice and then it's ded
>>337480782
Read the cleric blue robe.
>>337486034
I grabbed a shield with decent magic blocking and just tanked all the hits until it landed and killed it in one combo.
>>337480782
>The shell protects some kind of brain thing
>It's the same dark shit as on the back of Ludex and the abyss hollow
>They are literally turning into primmordial serpents
DEEPEST LORE
>>337486030
>At least the ledge was bigger this time so you could fight them without falling off.
This, and unlike DaS1 where both sides were blocked by archers (forcing you to kill or make one of them fall), in DaS3's case you can just run through them up to the top without engaging.
>>337486162
Iudex not ludex, get it right
>couldn't reach it with my weapon
>die
>remember i have a bunch of firebombs still
>win second try
It's not exactly hard. I imagine people with spells or ranged weapons equipped first time have no trouble at all.
>>337477908
>fat roll against the wall non stop
>win
Its sad I have spent an hour trying to invade and the only guy I found was using a trainer and getting his 1000hp ass kicked into oblivion in blight town, when he went to use his OHK magic I just ran away and waited for him to kill himself
>>337486337
First time I played I ran a pyro. Nuked the everloving shit out of that bug ezpz.
>>337478818
I didn't find Capra Demon until my third playthrough. The Depths either, obviously. It was like Christmas.
>>337486162
>Ludex
(you)
>>337479568
Learn how to parry the snake guys. That's the first point in the game where it really comes in handy
>>337483267
The hardest thing in the DLC is getting Kalameet's tail. Just killing him is way easier
Tips on cutting off Seath's tail?
>tfw you see vorts and the dancers ghosts walking in Irithil
>>337488278
You do? I saw a ghost in the beginning. Didn't know what that meant.
>>337488234
Get him to destroy the immortality crystal, that'll stun him and give you a chance to get behind him and hack away at it
>>337487376
Yeah. That as well.
Killing Kalameet is easy but i stopped trying to cut the tail.
>>337488813
He can destroy it? I never knew that.
>>337477908
This guy fucked my shit big time when I first started playing DaS. Needless to say I was fatrolling and didn't upgrade my weapons. I spend an entire morning on him and felt so satisfied when I finally got him down. That feeling of satisfaction that will never be replicated once you figured the souls formula out.
>fought stray demon for first time today
>got fucked by his s h o c k w a v e
>'probably shouldn't have come here so early, better go back to my bloodstain and homeward bone'
>he immediately hits and kills me after the drop down with guaranteed fall damage
>lost 7 humanity
IT'S NOT FAIR
I COULDN'T DO ANYTHING
WOW
>>337490161
But nigga you don't have to drop into his room anymore. The big pilgrim door should be open. You might still die but you can avoid fall damage.
>>337490972
dude what
>Beaten DaS 6 times
>still don't know the story or any lore
>>337484846
>+5 weapon for the entire game
Moonlit Butterwaiting-game should be the third boss you fight.
I've been meaning to ask this for a while but when /v/ says DaS falls apart half way, when is that exactly? Isn't there a ton of sequence breaking? What's half way?
>>337481596
There are some statues that show the wings growing from their back at the cathedral of deep.
>>337492825
After you aquire the lordvessel
Although for me personally the duke's archives was one of the best and most atmospheric locations in the game
>>337492825
I ask because I think it's just people getting burnt out halfway and the quality isn't actually dropping. The only areas I felt were actually pretty shit were the areas with all the Capra demons and Dragon assess. Everything else is fine really.
>>337492825
Basically, DaS gets really spotty on subsequent playthroughs past Anor Londo. You started seeing the cracks, the cuts and the confusing and you begin to realize how much is actually outright missing from the world, not just obfuscated.
You don't really feel this prior to AL because so much of the game is locked behind the lord vessel, and because the Catacombs and ToTG are fleshed out enough if you happened to wander in.
The game also starts to wear on you past AL because the design starts to suffer a tad.
![latest[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ZFrQyeD.jpg "latest[1].jpg")
Sens Fortress is the best area of all Dark Souls games.
>>337494968
Before anybody even refutes you, you're already wrong because of your lack of supporting evidence.
Have fun with your shit area for shit players, shitter.
>>337490161
Stray Demon is one of the few things that's honestly bullshit in the game. There aren't even any visual tells that the floor is weakened, it looks identical to the rest of the floor
>>337495907
He's right though. Every other area in the game is bland compare to it. It's the only area that keeps you the edge trough the whole thing. Most other areas come down to just learning enemy placement.
>>337496187
The clue is that you can see it from the corridor leading up to your cell.
>>337494968
I don't understand why so many people think this. It's 90% one enemy type and most every other enemy is rehashed from other areas, half the place is just timing a platforming puzzle and half the traps are avoided with the powah of i-frames, and the boss is too easy.
>>337492825
There was so much stuff cut and so much unfinished, it really shows after the you get the lordvessel
With lost izalith being the worst part
>>337483951
Wait the elevator can kill you?
>>337496264
I was mostly jesting, but I'd like to here his reasoning.
>Most other areas come down to just learning enemy placement.
How is that not Sens Fortress? Don't tell me you've never fucked up before the bonfire and had to sprint back to where you were.
I'll admit it was great the first time around, though.
>>337484535
Pilgrim butterflies are like a pre-Evo form of ancient dragons. Humans are really dragons, that's why we were cursed by the gods so we'd never take over like they did.
