the wrong company died
Sega died for their own shitty business decisions
People are shitposting Nintendo because they don't like their decisions that serve better long term
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdtfcOlr0tk
>>337477228
>Sega died for their own shitty business decisions
This.
But hey, they finally let another Shinobi game happen and it was actually good.
Sega can't die. It's too fast.
SEGA has so many good IPs that just all sell like dogshit.
Something happened to Nintendo?
>>337478415
Shinobi 3D was shit. It was nothing like Revenge or Return of the Ninja Master.
>>337477228
>Sega died for their own shitty business decisions
and now Nintendo is going to follow the same fate
ironic that PS2 killed Dreamcast and now PS4 is killing Wii U.
>>337476825
sega will survive now.
After i read sega decision releasing shenmue 1 & 2 and maybe jet set radio future licence. Cry Nintendo fanboys.
>>337481570
>PS2 killed Dreamcast
>>337476825
Agreed
Not true. Nintendo's properties are worth keeping.
Sega only had Sonic, and look where that went.
>It's a "Nintendo is Doomed" episode
>>337476825
WRONG KID DIED.
Sega is doing better than Nintendo now though.
>has Alien, Predator, Halo, Warhammer fantasy and 40k
weebshit aside I think they'll be alright
>>337481767
It was a two prong attack. Nintendo fanboys with Year 1 of Pokemon, then the PS2 with A DVD PLAYER HOLY SHIT.
>>337481570
sega killed the dreamcast, there past fuck ups came to haunt them when the dreamcast was released
I dunno, I'm a SEGAboy through and through but back when SEGA died out of the console market, Nintendo was still making some fuckin' ace games through the N64/GC era (in fact I'd call it Nintendo's golden age).
Sure, Nintendo's shit now, but if Nintendo died in the early 2000s instead of SEGA, who's to say it wouldn't be the exact same situation but in reverse - Nintendo being primarily a publisher who sticks to the shadows, and SEGA being the laughing stock of the current console generation?
Basically, I don't think the climate of the gaming industry would be any better if it was SEGA that thrived and Nintendo that fell
>>337481767
Every developer dropped Dreamcast support as soon as PS2 came out
>>337481828
sega has way more than sonic
>>337482090
>SEGA being the laughing stock of the current console generation
They would never end up the laughing stock. Sega of that era always catered to core gamers first.
At worst, Sega would become the new SNK.
>>337481570
the PS2 didn't kill dreamcast. It was a combination of crap marketing and sonys famous patent trolling. Sega should of just waited 2 years so the DVD craze settled in
>>337481828
sega has a ton of dope franchises. they just pretend they dont exist for some reason
>>337482078
i think every sega fan knows this, but doesnt want to face the truth
>>337476825
>the wrong company died
>post 2 dead companies
what the fuck are you trying to do here?
>>337482102
nah capcom and snk were still supporting it until 2001
>>337482320
>they just pretend they dont exist for some reason
They don't sell.
>>337482090
Nintendo has been a casual children's company since the 4th gen, Sega was always for core gamers
>>337476825
They're still plenty alive, bringing us such wonders as Hatsune Miku.
>>337476825
Neither of them are dead.
>Sega dies
>Sega briefly went multiplatform dev
>Sega is now a 100% Sony dev
>maybe they'd port one of those games to PC 7 years after
>>337481570
PS2 only sold because of marketing and so did the PS4
Wii U and Dreamcast are both better by leaps and bounds than any shitty sony consoles.
>>337482465
ps4 only sold because of bloodborne being literally the best video game
knowing the experience bloodborne offers if the ps4 was 3000$ id buy it for bloodborne
>>337482090
SEGA is doing pretty good despite being a "laughing stock", Valkyria Chronicles, Yakuza, Binary Domain, Miku all in-house, published games like Bayonetta, Alpha Protocol, Alien Isolation, Football Manager, Total War, Resonance of Fate. Now own ATLUS too.
Not too shabby really.
>>337482465
>PS2 only sold because of marketing and so did the PS4
the delusional butthurt is real
>>337476825
Nigga almost the entire list of games I'm excited for in multiple genres is all published by Sega.
You know Sega could if they wanted to start focusing on their arcade roots and start making shorter, more score attack type games and put them on the Eshop, PSN, XBLA and Steam and make a lot of money. House of the Dead and Afterburner could make gangbusters.
The Wrong Kid died, dammit.
its games like this that makes me miss old sega
>>337481570
Sega's hardware division died after years of steady, major losses.
Nintendo has never come even remotely close to that. Even with their current failed console, they are still making a profit.
>>337481424
>Shinobi 3D was shit.
Explain, baby.
>It was nothing like two games it was very similar to and borrowed a lot from.
Yeah, okay. There was an increased emphasis on melee combat as opposed to shurikens, which is a substantial difference, but not unprecedented. The game borrowed a bit from the PS2 games too. Some of stages (Bioshark most notably) have sloppy level design (they probably ran out of money) and the graphics could have been better, but it's a great game. It admiraby chose to expand on the series as opposed to slavish replication--the same way Revenge did to the original and III did to Revenge.
>>337482698
A revisionist game that pretends everything bad Sega had to face was caused by their murrican management?
>>337482286
>Sega should of just waited 2 years
lmao
in 1998 and through most of 1999, Sega were literally supporting no platforms in Western countries
are you telling me...the company could have sat there for an additional two years, releasing no commercial products worldwide...and not go insolvent?
>>337476825
>The wrong company entered the game
The Right Kid is gonna die tonight
>>337482578
>SEGA is doing pretty good despite being a "laughing stock",
You misunderstand, what I was saying is that Nintendo is the laughing stock, but that if they traded places in the Dreamcast era, SEGA could have ended up exactly the same as Nintendo has
>>337482573
explain this then
http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=&publisher=&platform=PS4&genre=&minSales=0&results=200
>even second son sold more than bloodborne
If SEGA put out a new console I would buy it.
>>337476825
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf6u4QUBjyQ
>>337482920
It's true. People like to act like Sony saved gaming but in reality if they hadn't shown up everything that went to PS would have gone to Saturn and we would have been much better off with the competition still being between Sega and Nintendo.
>>337477560
Weren't they douchebags to their devs? I remember reading a lot of hidden rants on tcrf
>>337482874
its a game that pokes fun of itself and how mismanaged the company really was. do you think any other company would put out a game like that?
You mean just like the Wrong Kid died?
>>337483003
>in reality if they hadn't shown up everything that went to PS would have gone to Saturn
Nah, pretty unlikely. Nintendo would have cleaned Sega up in a price war with the N64 (much like Sony did).
There are some reports saying that the N64 cost almost three times less to manufacture than the Saturn.
>>337482920
agreed, theres something about non dedicated video game companies making consoles that doesnt sit well with me
>>337477228
>People are shitposting Nintendo because they don't like their decisions that serve better long term
>implying that mobile shit is better fir the long tern
>Implying 1 game at E3 is better for the long term
>Implying censoring shit even on M rated games making it literally 4kids shit is better for the long term
>Implying The new directors idea of focusing on pushing the brand everywere instead of fixing up the core issues like shit hardware and lack of 3rd party support as well as 1st party is better for the long term
>Implying that just because Nintendo apparently has a kazillion dollars they will live forever without investors
>implying you arent just a delusional nintencuck
>>337482465
The PS2 also had an actual library of exclusives to choose from that aren't mostly remasters or weebshit. Damn thing lasted even into the PS3/X360 generation.
>>337476825
Sega didn't die. They just stopped making consoles, Nintendo should follow them and go third party.
>>337483303
>Implying censoring shit even on M rated games making it literally 4kids shit is better for the long term
It has worked for longer than you've been alive, so maybe?
>>337483435
then we would be left with sony and microsoft? fuck that.
>F-Zero GX
>The Definitive versions of Sonic Adventure 1 and 2
>Bayonetta 2
>Skies of Arcadia legends
Nintendo and Sega should partner up more often.
>>337476825
How come? Sega has objectively never made a good game.
>>337483435
I want Nintendo to be a formidable force against Sony and Microsoft. Less competition is a bad thing and Sony is already curbstomping Microsoft, so the last thing we need is a fucking monopoly.
Yeah man Aliens Colonial Marines is proof enough that Sega should be shut down for good
>>337483690
Do you get an adrenaline rush from this kind of shitposting?
>>337483690
>Jet Set Radio
>Crazy Taxi
>The 2D sonic games
>Skies of Arcadia
>Afterburner
>Shining Force
>House of the dead.
>>337483585
>The Definitive versions of Sonic Adventure 1 and 2
But they were buggier on the GC, which was one of people's main complaints about those games.
>>337483471
Thanks for confirming your just another braindead fanboy.
Once you exclude JRPGs it's very easy to see why Genesis was a lot better than SNES.
>>337483913
Don't forget
>F-Zero GX
>Outrun
>Ristar
>Virtua Fighter
>Daytona USA
>Virtual On
>Streets of Rage series
>Sonic all stars racing transformed
>>337483993
Well, I mean, surely Nintendo doomed themselves in the long term when they started doing that back in the 90s. #FE was just the last straw. They are about to feel the consequences any second now.
>>337482920
>>337483003
>>337483169
Keep crying. Nintendo is next on Sony's hitlist.
>>337483003
FF7 wouldn't have had the cocky as shit magazine ads, because it would've been on N64 instead as a cart game itself.
Think about what that would've changed for a moment.
If MS and Nintendo can get it together, I rather see those to go against each other. Sony can go fuck off and die, they were a mistake.
>>337482286
>the PS2 didn't kill dreamcast.
Yes, it did, but it wasn't the the only one
>>337484924
Cinematics wouldn't be a selling point in video games?
>>337485059
>Sony can go fuck off and die, they were a mistake.
>implying the PS1/PS2 weren't the best consoles ever made
What the fuck happened to Microsoft
With the original Xbox they were pretty based, and early 360 years were solid. Why did it all go to shit?
>>337485473
Xbox Live
>>337485473
When Don fucking Mattrick took over.
>>337485473
because microsoft is starting to give less of a shit about consoles. why do you think most xbone exclusives are heading to windows 10? you have to remember microsoft is mainly an os company and not a gaming company
>>337485473
Sega actually had a hand in making the OG Xbox
>>337485473
It went mainstream, like westernized dudebro mainstream. It got too popular so Microsoft only stuck with marketing games that dudebros would want in order to keep that larger majority and devs that weren't making games not for normies, just got tired of there titles getting ignored on 360
>>337485835
were making*
>>337477228
Someone there still knows what they're doing. Last week people were loosing their fucking mind over a genesis emulator that comes with a virtual room.
I swear I become more of a segafag as time goes on and I don't know why. I had both consoles as a kid and liked them both equally.
>>337485623
What did he do?
>>337482465
Except it didn't, it was a decent console and used the latest technologies at the time.
>>337476825
Since when did either of these companies die?
>>337482465
PS2 also had a library that dwarfed the other two consoles.
PS4 won simply because everyone else fucked up so badly.
>>337486265
Both have been dead after every other game they announce or release according to /v/.
>>337486387
>PS2 also had a library that dwarfed the other two consoles.
>two consoles
>>337485473
Don fucking Mattrick
>>337482993
But can SEGA justify investing millions in another risky console?
>>337486387
>Nintendo banked on third parties to support their launch and did not advertise the WiiU at all.
>Microsoft spent the latter part of 2012 shooting themselves in the foot.
>Sony won by virtue of not fucking up.
Pretty much.
>>337486537
>sega
>justify
They'd try it for the fuck of it.
>>337486146
Same thing for me as well.
I'm starting to realize just how many more genres of quality games Sega had in comparison to Nintendo.
Sega & Nintendo both had amazing platformers and RPGs. But Sega also had amazing shooters, racing games, shmups, fighting games, beat-em-ups, etc.
>>337476825
Sega was ahead of Nintendo on pretty much everything. Nintendo was always clinging to the status quote. Sega was ahead of their time and Nintendo has consistently held the industry back to increase profit margins.
Sega should hire the guys who made Freedom Planet to make a sonic game.
>>337486675
Plus the fact that the one bit of hardware the genesis had over the SNES was the one thing that actually affected gameplay. I'm amazed at how many games I look back on that are literally impossible on the snes.
>>337482694
That scart switch setup is pretty hardcore. I want to get a GScartSW but they cost almost as much as a Framemeister, and getting in the wait list requires a lot of vigilance.
>>337483169
Hi MovieBob.
>>337476825
Sega deserved to die and so does nintendo
>>337483003
The Saturn was too expensive. That is not Sony's fault.
>>337482996
That's not the Virtual Boy.
>>337482340
I always did love the sheer support Capcom gave the DC.
>>337482465
PS2's a more powerful machine. The GPU system isn't quite as feature-packed as on the DC, but the PS2 can push more to the screen and deliver higher texture quality (also, the DC has a retarded small amount of RAM).
The EE also gets more performance than the SH4, even accounting for clock rate, instructions per-clock and code density.
also, although its launch lineup was kind of trash, by the end of 2001, it already had a really good set of games
PS4 totally did sell only due to marketing. Shit, where are the games even now?
There's Bloodborne and...
hell, I think it's just because the Wii U is a complete non-entrant and the Xbone is just worse than the PS4 in every way -- cost more, games run worse, managed to have such hilariously bad marketing that Sony didn't really need to try, nearly nothing to actually get people to pick the Xbone over the PS4
>>337486537
No. Shit, Sega doesn't have the talent in-house anymore, why do you think AM2 is doing nothing but idolshit now? All the actual top-grade talent left years ago.
>>337486740
I had a Game Gear. The battery life (especially on 90s-era battery tech) was appalling, and it drank through like 6 at a time. In contrast, you can get a Game Boy and play for a whole day straight, and maybe a week or two if you only played a few hours a day.
also, Sonic 2 on GG is a terrible game and didn't really help it
>>337483435
Nintendo have been the only ones daring to innovate on the console design front. You wouldn't have your precious DualShock without N's efforts, from the d-pad to shoulder buttons to thumbsticks to gyroscopes.
You really want a future of endlessly recycled crippled PCs, never moving forward in the field of game interfacing?
>>337486146
Sega was still cool when they died. The Dreamcast was an excellent console and there wasn't really anything wrong with it, but Sega's years of financial problems starting with the 32X caught up with them. They couldn't afford to stay in the race long enough to profit from the Dreamcast.
>>337481570
>Comparing a console that's confirmed to be getting replaced by a new console with a console that stopped production without getting a successor console like it's the same
It's like you are expecting the NX to get announced as cancelled any day now.
>>337487449
Every Dreamcast - PS2 multiplat games look and play better on the Dreamcast.
>>337483690
>>337477228
the Wii U served no one
>>337486740
Damn, this ad still kicks ass.
>Sega Does What Nintendon't
>>337487585
That's because all of those were either arcade ports (arcade ports were usually the best on Sega systems) or they were made from the DC then ported to the PS2.
>>337486867
Such as?
>>337482983
ps4 fags think bloodborne is the best shit when it in fact appeal to a lot less of sonyggers than they think.
or rather, it appeal to sonyggers and not everyone who buy a ps4 aka actual childs and normies
>>337487878
>Implying Hard Corps wasn't just as graphically intensivenot to mention Hard Corps is the better game
>>337487449
The fluorescent tube in the Game Gear is what ate up all the batteries. If you're replace it with an LED backlight, you can get up to 15 hours out of it. Unfortunately white LEDs didn't exist in the early 90s, so the Game Gear was ahead of its time. If Sega had been able to release a pocket version to compete with the Gameboy Color it would have been a superior handheld in terms of hardware and screen tech.
>>337486867
?
>>337481570
How is that ironic
>>337487878
Remember that part in armored armadillos stage where you're flying through the air while a few bird bots are near you and it slows down? Ranger x needs 3 times the number of enemies to get slow down.
Or just compare the final fight games to streets of rage. Sega games in general tend to have far more enemies on screen at once than SNES games.
>>337483303
shit hardware ain't that much of an issue, it's not like consoles can actually compete with pc in term of power and actually be worth their price.
at least nintendo try to optimise their games so they don't run like complete asses.
as far as 3rd party goes, i agree with you, but bringing 3rd party aboard isn't something you can do all that easilly
>>337487449
PS2 can draw better graphics but something about the output is seriously wrong. Even using component cables the image quality is really blurry compared to Dreamcast VGA which is fucking amazing.
>Hey, look who's playing Square-io Brothers on his No-friendo Lameboy!
I miss Sega's ads.
>>337488257
>shit hardware ain't that much of an issue
It is in the sense that it's a nightmare to program for, which scares away third-party developers.
>>337488087
Loss?? XD
>>337483136
What model trinitron is that?
>>337487178
true
hell, Sega screwed everything up with the Saturn
>cost
listen, even in '89, the Genesis launched at $189 in the US
who in god's name thought a $399 console was a reasonable pricepoint
>architecture
The two CPUs fuck each other over over memory access and can barely do anything together without colliding. Trying to utilize the dual CPU design effectively is a nightmare, and you end up just being better off using one of them. There's too many processors on the board in general, that shit should have been cut-down hard, you can't produce the Saturn cheaply at all.
The VDP1 is slow and buggy, VDP2 is a nice extra that saves polygons but overall doesn't help enough to match the difference.
>launch
Sega decided:
>hey guys, let's launch early, fucking over retailers who expected a later launch and aren't getting any early launch Saturns shipped to them, also enjoy having no games everyone, hope you like this half-assed Daytona port and Panzer Dragoon (which is a good game, very stylish, looked better than anything else on the machine for a whole year, but not a system seller)
The whole thing was a shitshow.
>>337487585
and for good reason -- DC was easier to develop for and had a three year lead of developer familiarity at that point
the PS2 was well maligned early on for being a right pain to work with, and all kind of graphical features the DC supported in hardware had to be programmed in on the PS2 (so, deflicker, various lighting effects, etc)
>>337488003
>If you're replace it with an LED backlight, you can get up to 15 hours out of it.
shit, I wish I still had a GG, that sounds like a great mod
>>337488223
Ranger-X also runs at 30fps. Still impressive as hell.
>>337485473
Don't know, but I am enjoying it. Putting some of their exclusives on PC is pretty based, I'll admit.
>>337488418
When Nintendo announces that their latest system is a generation behind, they are thinking "oh boy, we're gonna save so much money, our profits are going to be through the roof!" Third party devs are thinking "we are going to need an entire extra development team just to develop for this outdated shit. We might not even make a profit from putting our games on it."
>>337483913
>Jet Set Radio
Everyone loves the soundtrack. The gameplay itself is boring as shit, and the Tony Hawk series did it better anyway.
>Crazy Taxi
I'd agree, except the game aged poorly. The city is far too small and shit gets boring after a while. Grand Theft Auto improved on this.
>The 2D sonic games
Were never good.
>Skies of Arcadia
Extremely basic RPG that just happens to have a great storyline.
>Afterburner
Meh.
>Shining Force
Meh.
>House of the dead.
Resident Evil is much better.
>>337482694
>most consoles linked with composite to SCART connectors
I'm about to vomit.
>>337476825
>>337489097
nigga house of the dead and resident evil are two completely different genres
>>337484338
>F-Zero GX
Not a SEGA game. Amusement Vision made it.
>Outrun
Only good arcade game.
>Ristar
Boring platformer.
>Virtua Fighter
Street Fighter is better.
>Daytona USA
Nah.
>Virtual On
Nah.
>Streets of Rage series
Nah.
>Sonic all stars racing transformed
lol
man I can't wait for E3. how ever the new Zelda turns out. the Nintendo shitposting will fucktuple in size whatever it's positive or negative
>>337489207
They're both games about zombies in mansions.
>>337489231
>Not a SEGA game. Amusement Vision made it.
Anon, are you retarded? It's like Sonic isn't a SEGA game because Sonic Team made it.
>>337485689
If MS cared so much about PC, then why is Forza infinitely inferior on PC? Why did they port Killer Instinct three years later? Why is Gears of War fucking broken? Why haven't they ported something like Sunset Overdrive? Simple, MS wants to prove to their shareholders that Xbox is their most relevant division, and they'll stop at nothing to kill Windows as a game platform.
>>337489231
>>Streets of Rage series
Nah.
It ran better than final fight
It had more enemies on screen than final fight
It add new moves and had more moves overall than final fight
It sounded better than final fight (until 3)
>>337489394
yeah because xbox is where most of their profits are coming from
>>337489242
It really won't matter if it's good or bad at all since shills will praise in any case and shitters will shit in any case.
At most if it's good it'll be like 60% praise vs 40% LOL WOW ARE THEY SERIOUS and if it looks bad it will be the other way around.
>>337489394
name 5 good xbone exclusives then
>>337489097
>jet set radio
That had the greatest soundtrack of any video game ever.
>>337487081
Just find a pair of non-custom made SCART switches with minimal noise and you're set. I use the Madcatz one, and it works ridiculously well knowing the brand with minimal noise and costing me £15 or so.
>>337489097
>hasn't even played some of the games so he just says meh
>thinks house of the dead is in any way comparable to Resident Evil
>the "sonic was never good" meme
>pretending Skies of Arcadia is any more basic then any other well known JRPG
>Judging Crazy Taxi on how big it's world is
>thinking GTA is comparable to Crazy Taxi
>thinking JSR is the same as Tony Hawk
Your bait is a little too obvious
>>337489503
Yeah, Xbox live. If you only had an idea how poorly games are doing on the MS Store. They set the whole Windows store thing up to fail, just like GFWL before it.
>>337489231
>nah
>lol
if you didnt play the game just say you didnt play the game
>>337489627
No, that would be PSO and its retarded noises.
Seriously, one thing I'll never understand about Dreamcast fanboys is the obsession with the average soundtracks the console had. Do you have to have been a kid when it came out or something?
>>337489231
>"It's not a Sega game, Sega made it"
>thinking virtua fighter is in any comparable to street fighter
>boring,nah,nah,nah,lol
again, you need to work on your bait
Actually, vectrex was the mistake that doomed gaming from start.
Nintendo and milton bradley were rivals over a fucking century, and everything MB did, nintendo did, everything nintendo did, MB did as well.
And all the nintendo "innovations" were direct rip offs from milton bradley gears.
But sadly the company died in 84, now being just a stupid mattel shell, so nintendo ran out of "innovations" around 2000 or so.
If milton bradley were still a thing, we would be playing with solid holograms.
>>337489928
I think the fact comes from many Dreamcast games having 'real music', but also still distinctively sounding like video game music. Compare to nowadays where everything is orchestrated, orchestrated remixes of other songs, or licensed music.
>>337490202
>vectrex
>mistake
*triggered*
>>337476825
>Gave us splatoon
>gave Mario sunshine
>gave hyrule warriors
> gave us m prime series
>gave us smash
Vs
>haven't given us anything since sonic adventure
>>337488279
>using component for PS2 when official VGA cables exist
>using component for PS2 when RGB scart cables exist.
lol
>>337490492
Can you see truxton running on the vectrex?
>>337482698
>still no fan translation
>Kalinske was hated in Japan's side of SEGA
>tfw Kalinske wanted the Saturn to use Sony's CD hardware but was shotdown by SoJ
>tfw Kalinske wanted to use Silicon Graphics' graphic processor for the Saturn but was denied by SoJ because "3D is too complicated for the console market"
>All of that happened during his golden age with the Genesis
>tfw the Saturn could've been the ultimate 5th gen console (sony's CD with N64's graphic prowess) but SoJ didn't because of sheer arrogance about themselves and against the west
I'm a SEGA fan and when I stumbled upon that I was both furious and disappointed.Source is JV magazine issue #19
>>337490587
Actually.. that's not exactly a good idea on a system that outputs 512x224 on a regular basis.
Skies of Arcadia Legends HD when???? I want that Aika booty
>>337490546
Yakuza
>>337490683
It is you dumbass.
>>337490730
Yakuza is Sony though, so it's garbage.
>>337487449
>PS4 totally did sell only due to marketing. Shit, where are the games even now?
You do realize that Playstation ever since the PS1 has always been a PORT machine from PC? That's the main fucking appeal of Playstation and why it wins every generation. It gets to play PC ports at a reasonable level while not paying an arm and a leg for a high end GPU and CPU.
>>337476825
No, it didn't. Many of Sega's games were absolute masterpieces, but its management (particularly in its home base of Japan) was absolutely shit even back in the Master System days.
>>337490293
I doubt it has anything to do with orchestrated music. Sega is even one of the biggest offenders here, having actual music labels and connections with musicians all over Japan. Yet we don't complain about orchestrated compositions in Sega's Panzer Dragoon, or other games from 00s like Ace Combat 5, do we?
>>337490546
>What is F-Zero GX
>what is Virtua Fighter 4&5
>what is After Burner climax
>what is Sonic Generations
>what is bionic commando rearmed
>what is crazy taxi 3
>>337490730
To niche
>>337491037
What other gaming company even has connections to music labels though?
>>337491207
Its a list without the sonic racing.
>>337491380
>>337491207
I don't know why I put bionic commando in there.
replace it with sonic racing I guess
>>337489349
Assassin's Creed is the same thing as Streets of Rage because you punch people in the street.
>>337477228
This
Nintendo's risking massive shitposting and NINTENDOOM articles this entire year so the NX can launch properly
>>337490546
Valkyria Chronicles
gunvalkyrie
jet set radio future
panzer dragoon orta
super monkey ball
feel the magic
puyo pop fever
sonic rush
>>337481570
>now PS4 is killing Wii U
But the Wii U was never alive in the first place
>>337490587
What's wrong with component?
>>337492515
It's easily the lowest quality option for PS2
>>337490202
Oh look it's this autist again. Care to tell us how pressure-sensitive overlays and d-pads are so much alike?
>>337492727
That would be composite. Also RGB scart and component are pretty much the same quality with component supporting progressive scan.
PS2 has no real VGA, the ones that exist convert to VGA from other signals, the official VGA cable is only for Linux, doesn't work with games.
>>337492870
Bullshit Sonic is shit tier furry bait
Name one good Genesis game besides golden axe
>>337493173
The VGA cable does work with games. I own one so I should know.
>>337493338
Streets of Rage 2
Comix Zone
Shinobi 3
Soldiers of Fortune
Kid Chameleon
Gunstar HeroesCombat Cars
Looking at Xbone's sales and software, this will probably be their last traditional gen and they'll fuck off from the market with some stupid Windows 10 box in 2019.
Nintendo has a chance to make a comeback, and a lot of their top brass is close to retirement.
![s19[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/C8CCKWh.jpg "s19[1].jpg")
>>337493415
It really is this exact one? One that only comes with PS2 Linux packages?
If so then there's a lot of misinformation out there. Everyone has been saying it doesn't work with games, only the Linux OS.
>>337476825
Sega makes some great music. I hope that whoever they hire for music for their sonic games keeps making similar music.
>>337493572
This is the last gen for Nintendo and MS making traditional consoles. Nintendo's NX is looking to be a combination of their home consoles and handheld with a lot of rumors stating that Nintendo may be going back to cartridges and they are also making games for mobile. They even restructure their company solely for this new direction they are taking. MS is finally doing what they wanted to do with the original Xbox, make a PC that can be played in the living room. I expect the next Xbox will be called Xbox 10. It will be combination of PC and console all in one and will be MS Steam machine. This is what they always wanted to make. Both Nintendo and Microsoft are unifying their OS so all of their hardware can run on one OS. Sony will be the only ones making a traditional console next gen.
>>337493228
That sure looks like a d-pad. Oh wait, it doesn't. That's a fucking sheet of pressure-sensitive plastic. Do you even know what a d-pad is or how one works?
>>337489231
>this hilarious zero taste
>>337491037
The real answer is that Sega made a lot of very game-like games. That sounds retarded, but Sega's whole style emphasized that you were indeed playing a game and not some kind of interactive movie or anything. So, the soundtracks were composed to match, high energy and all that.
hell, Namco was the same way, having a bit of a small "rivalry" with Sega in the arcades influencing their output
as an aside, Panzer Dragoon's presentation is decidedly cinematic, and not because of the rock-bottom 20fps it runs at, and it's the exception to Sega's general output
>>337482939
Unpopular opinion but I love the Murrican SNES design.
>>337495106
Yeah I never quite got the "Famicom look is superior" meme.
>>337493839
Music in Sonic, Phantasy Star games and probably some others is often done by contributors from Sega's labels. And pretty sure they still have their videogame music division with people who have been working there for nearly 20 years if not more. But I don't even know its name anymore, after so many restructuring attempts they had.
>>337495225
I think there are just a lot of Yuros and weebs here to shift the tide to the Super Famicom's favor.
I'll take the simple purple and grey over the skittles look any day.
>>337493338
All the Shinobi games
Gunstar Heroes
Rocket Knight Adventures
Alien Soldier
Contra: Hard Corps
Streets of Rage 2 and 3
Yu Yu Hakusho: Makyo Toitsusen
Mickey Mouse: Castle of Illusion
NBA Jam
>>337494818
>I-its not a dpad because its not exactly the same as Nintendo's dpad
I guess the Dreamcast Controller didnt have a dpad then
>>337477228
Last time I checked, Sega was a successful publisher.
Warhammer Total War comes out in a month or so.
>>337488279
Dreamcast VGA is a raw, crystal-clear 31kHz arcade-spec output, and PC monitors are damn nice.
>>337489097
>JSR
it's not boring, but the controls are iffy, the game needs to be tighter -- if it's going to be floaty, give the player more air control
it's still gorgeous to this day (and fuck, the sequel looks practically modern, other than the slightly too-low poly count that could maybe be dismissed as style if it was developed today), and the soundtrack is stellar
>Crazy Taxi
Only people who are miserably bad at it (read: can't even get $8k/run on defaults, let alone $10k) will say this. The arcade city at least (the arrange one for the DC is kind of a mess) is pretty much one of the best bits of stage design Sega's put out, designed to keep the player flowing as long as they continue driving well.
>2D Sonics
I can't be arsed to rip into you over this one like I want, you can keep this piss-poor shit. Ring system is designed to allow new players to go fast with abandon, if you're inching forward, it's because you're a pussy rather than because you can't see. There's nearly no point in the original Genesis games where running ahead normally will get the player while with rings, unlike say, Sonic Advance 2 or 3, and most incoming obstacles will be appropriately telegraphed (speed is stopped, visual clues, etc).
The handful of levels that do violate this (in particular Marble Garden -- crushers will kill Sonic even as Sonic runs into them while opening, spike balls that you only hear when they're onscreen) are generally maligned for it.
>Skies of Arcadia
haven't played it myself
>Afterburner
Admittedly, Space Harrier is a much better designed game in every way. Dodging is screwy in Afterburner. Maybe I'm just bad, but it's not as approachable and doesn't bring you in.
>Shining Force
haven't played it myself
>House of the Dead
You can't be this retarded, you really can't. I'm embarrassed for you.
they're not even the same genre
>>337485473
Do you know why Microsoft entered the console market in the first place? It's because the PlayStation was taking games away from the PC. Microsoft no longer views the PlayStation or Sony as a threat since Google and Apple are their real competitors.
>>337485835
>It went mainstream, like westernized dudebro mainstream.
Anon, the PS1 was the dudebro console before the Xbox. Before that, it was the Genesis.
just like the Wrong Kid died.
>>337489151
this
if you have scart, you can get clean fucking RGB video, what the hell is that fucker doing
>>337495265
>But I don't even know its name anymore
WaveMaster. Nowadays, they're just a record label, but back in the day, they were Sega's in-house studio team that pretty much wrote all of their music.
What's this boards obsession with Sega?
>>337496680
there is a difference between past dudebro and present dudebro and you know it
>>337476825
None of those are Activision.
>>337497254
>this board
you mean this thread, most of the anons on this board have no idea how based Sega used to be.
>>337497337
Not really. Dudebros of the past were playing sports games and the popular violent games. Dudebros of the present are playing sports games and the popular violent games.
>>337497446
This. The only difference is today's dudebro spends more time with vidya and likes N64 games because nostalgia.
I miss Dreamcast, it was really ahead of its time for consoles.
>VGA 480p output
>Built in modem
>Arcade perfect ports (60FPS Virtual On) since Dreamcast and Naomi arcade boards used identical hardware
>Internet browser included
>Downloadable free DLC for some games like Skies of Arcadia, Sonic Adventure, etc.
>>337497446
at least dudebros of the past were more open to games that weren't fps in the same setting unlike today. that's the difference in the past it was much easier to get a dudebro to play a game unintended for normies, gradually opening them to more genres in games
Sega gets pretty based sometimes.
Why does Sega keep putting all their good games on Playstation consoles?
>>337494818
>bought a lookalike to play NES roms on
>if you press to far on the sides of each direction you get a diagonal
>trying to play legend of zelda looks like twitch plays pokemon
>>337498847
Because people only buy nintendo consoles to play nintendo games.
>>337497869
Genesis an online peripheral
>>337499027
>had an
>>337497869
Sometimes I load up my Dreamcast and shitpost on 4chan.
Companies don't bankrupt on muh feelings, genius. The right company died back then. If Nintendo keeps fucking up they will follow the same path.
>>337489097
>shitting on shining force
I will fucking fight you.
>>337488003
Sega should have released a GG Lite. Its ridiculous that during it's 7-year life span Sega never modified the GG. That would have been smarter than the Nomad or 32X.
All they had to do was fix the battery life and screen and make it smaller and it would have sold much more.
>>337499027
yeah but it wasn't included with the console and you had to pay for the service.
dreamcast included a 56k modem with every console and you only had to pay for your ISP
>>337482351
But they do! The last time Sega did anything at all with Skies of Arcadia, Shinobi, or Jet Set Radio it sold well. Sega just doesn't want to make anything that's not either yet another failed attempt at reviving Sonic, or yet another Hatsune Miku rhythm game.
>>337496054
>I don't know what a d-pad is.
>>337491024
Sega Europe's handling of the Master System and Megadrive is God Tier.
